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Week 9 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Bizarro Week - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

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Week 9 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Bizarro Week - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

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oh man he 137 on just 14 carries two touchdowns even did you see the the pass he caught yeah he was a weird one it was like a baker kind of threw him into his own and yeah it was like a it was a little awkward there was a weird jump it wasn't a screen it was a downfield target that was i i mentioned to mike while we were watching i was like that was a route i was like i feel like i've never seen him run a route and catch a ball downfield but it was it was great to see man you just wish

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wish they would give him all the work. Yeah. He would be like Derek Henry. He would be the best running back in football. But, yeah, he, he averages 5.3 yards per carry on his career, which is second only to Jamal Charles historically. That's absurd. He will have a couple of tough ones coming up. I mean, in New England, in Baltimore. Joe Mixon, 13 for 64 and 2. Another great game for Mixon heading into the buy. But the Bengals got to figure some things out. And Camara?

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Okay, we got back into the end zone. We caught four passes for 54 yards. Mark Ingram is being used. I mean, I thought he was flex-worthy. I mean, I think he was right around double digits. Cordero, Cordero balled out. Yeah, I mean, he's great. He got a couple of long kind of bombs down the sideline in the receiving game, only six targets in the receiving game, which is like what you'd kind of expect, like, oh, he'll get five or six targets. Turned it into six receptions for 126 yards.

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I mean, that's how you do efficiency. And he's been, I think what I love about him is how consistent every week has been for him. I mean, he's been inside the top 22 every week since week two, including three weeks inside the top seven. So 126 in the receiving game, and we know that they're not getting Ridley back. You know, this is part of the offensive plan and it's working. Melvin Gordon.

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21 for 80 in a touchdown. Brooksie, we got to get, we got to get Javante mentioned here, though. Yes, he was 17 for 111 on the ground. I mean, they're just both getting tons of work. It just, the Javante comment is just because please see it now. Please see the future. The future is Javante in a full-time role. And if Javante can have an okay game when Melvin Gordon gets 21 carries, I mean, it's not a.

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Melvin Gordon's good. He's played really good football all year long. Three weeks in a row where he's been an RB2 or better for fantasy. He's good for the team. He's been solid. He is, you know, the quintessential starter. But RB 14 on the year. Yeah, I mean he's great. But trade for Giovante Williams if you still can. But do you mean that in this end of year? I still do mean that in this end of year. I don't think anything's changing. Well, even if nothing changes, even if nothing changes at all.

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From this point forward, week 10 through the rest of the season, they have the number one strength of schedule for the running game. So trade for Melvin Gordon if you want. I just think that this running game is getting moving and the opportunity is ahead of them. Philly, Chargers, Kansas City, next three weeks. Detroit, Cincinnati. Chargers again in championship week. I think you can, I think maybe that advice of like, go get Gordon.

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I mean, we're going to have to pay for Gordon. He could be even cheaper. Oh, he has to be because everybody's going to be doing the song and dance that we're talking about. Devante Freeman. Well set. Dalvin Cook, 17 for 110 and a touchdown taken away, made me cry. 90 rushing yards in the first quarter against the tough Baltimore defense. You know, the team came out before Sunday and said, we got to get Dalvin going.

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Um, we got to get the ball into his hands more often. So why did he only have 20 rushing yards for the next three quarters? Yeah. That's, they didn't, they never had the ball. They got a, like the ball, the, the time of possession in the second half for Baltimore was absurd. Yeah. He had a 66 yard run in the game too. So if you, if you break down. Oh, not only if you haven't seen this run, Delvin Cook.

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breaks one off. He's running down the right side of the field and cuts it into the middle. And then the whirling dervish, Justin Jefferson comes screaming down the field for a block. But he's just, he's spinning his arms. Like the way the Baker Mayfield does when he runs down after he throws a touchdown. But he comes into the screen so fast. You're watching this angle and he's just halfway down the field. And then from the left of your screen comes Justin Jefferson going, whee!

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Tornado of destruction. And then I think it's like knocked over. It's, it is so funny. I will, I'll try to find it so we could tweet it out. I saw it going around after we had witnessed it in real time. We were dying. Wide receivers that dominated this week, bunch of guys you didn't play. Elijah Moore had the two touchdowns. You know, he is. Which I, I blame no one for not. Well, yeah. I mean, how do you know that? You couldn't play Elijah Moore.

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Yeah, and he did it with Josh Johnson. I found it. Did you? I have not seen this place. You're going to have to send it to me. Weird. Devante Smith. Devante Smith ended up with his best game of his young career, 5 for 116 and 1. You want Philly and games where they need to come back. You want Philly and games where they need to throw the football. And Smith had their best game of the of the year.

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It was, and I'm sorry, I posted it for everybody. But like the Devante Smith game against the Chargers. This is, Jason has lost control. You've got to go to our Twitter. What the heck is it doing? It's so funny. Why is he doing that? It's like, it's like the power up your punch with the left arm. He's doing a Popeye. And like,

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That is a man who loves football. That's a man who's out there having fun on the field. He's probably screaming. As he's running down the field, we don't have the audio, but he is almost definitely just going. Anyway, the point of Devante Smith doing this against the Chargers was absurd. This was absurd. This was not the matchup that Devante Smith was finally going to have an explosive game. But week nine, week nine. Yeah, I do think that the Chargers were down.

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a couple corners in this game. So the season-long matchup for, you know, targeting wide receivers has been really bad. But that was helpful. And it's just good to see because, you know, obviously rookies are going to get better as the season goes on. And Jalen Hertz says the last couple weeks played solid football. Which has been not good for fantasy. You had.

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Tim Patrick have a breakout performance with 4 for 85 and a touchdown. He made great play after great play in this game. Keenan Allen, 13 targets, 12 for 104. Nice to see. Hollywood Brown keeps doing what he's done. I mean, he's great. You know, you guys are right. It's continuing. 12 targets, 9 for 1, 16. The thing that is helping, I mean, there's a lot, right? Lack of a running game is helping. Mm-hmm.

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But you know what else is is this defense is giving up big plays. I mean, the defense is not doing the thing where they get, I mean, he's having to come back constantly. And this is great. That's great for fantasy. You've had weeks where Hollywood Brown does nothing in the first half. And then they have to come. Same this week. Lamar Jackson in the first half was awful.

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He played really, really bad football. Well, granted, Mark Andrews did drop a touchdown early on in the game. That was one of those like what just happened. But other than that, Lamar was off and not seeing the field very well. And then got it done in the second half. We had somebody in our league that was in such a pickle with multiple biweek's injuries. They had to make a desperation trade. They were three and five. They needed to get a win. And they made the decision essentially to trade.

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DeAndre Hopkins for Hollywood Brown. And you hear it. And this is a lesson for fantasy players, right? You hear something like that. You kind of, oh, what are you doing? Well, I didn't hate it. You know what? You gained the week that Hopkins is hurt. You gained the buy week for Arizona. So you get two extra weeks of Hollywood. It's not just Hollywood versus Hopkins. And Hollywood's been, he's the wide receiver five on the year. So sometimes you just have to.

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jump in and this person was like they did it then they were self-conscious about it and then you know i got to give them credit because you got to make a move and they win they won the week which means they're they're in contention like all of you out there if you want to win you have to play week to week it may hurt to do so i had to trade derrick henry in a league to get dalvin cook and i mean i had to trade henry and justin jefferson to get dalvin cook to stay alive

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to win a game in a keeper league. But you just, sometimes you have to do it and ignore all of the rolling eyes. And the names. Yeah, and the names. Because Hopkins, obviously, higher draft capital, longer history, has been playing great. But Hopkins is averaging 13 and half fantasy points a game and half point PPR scoring, which is fine. And Hollywood's averaging 16 fantasy points a game. So on a per game basis, he's the better player so far this year. Hey!

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And Brandon Ayuk, my guy. Eight targets, six for 89 and a touchdown. How am I supposed to feel? Because this was, this was coming into this season, he was a my guy, right? Like I, I put my name on Brandon Ayuk because I believed in him. And then it's the worst possible pick of all time. And now he's looking like, where, why, why was this guy not involved? I mean, it's from, from what you can hear, what is being reported now, which.

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you know, take it for what it is. But it sounds like practice. Like, which is, talk about practice. Yeah, that's hilarious of that. You hear that quote. But, I mean, well, he had the injury, you know, in the, in the off season, like right before the season started. But after all the, all the, all the, the air has been cleared between, at least seems like it, the air is clear between Shanahan and Iyuk. It was Shanahan saying you're not practicing.

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the way that I think that you should practice. And it's not just him either. And then there's reports that, like, teammates are seeing him kind of, you know, just dogging it during practice, not giving his all. And that wasn't good enough for the team and for Kyle Shanahan. And now that that has been aired out and the grievances had been taken care of, it seems like Ayyuk might be back on the up and up. And Ayuk, several of his catches were.

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difficult, hard, you know, across the middle, two guys hitting him at the same time, coming down with the ball. He looked really, really good outside of one fumble that obviously hurt their team earlier in the game. Granted George Kittle did the exact same thing. Brandon Ayuk looked good, but can you believe in him going forward? Kittle is back. Debo is still the guy. This is not the Brandon Ayuk is going to be what he was party. This is the Brandon Ayuk is involved in the offense.

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And you can play them like the wide receiver two for the San Francisco 49ers party. And you don't have to worry about Trent Sherfield. And you don't have to worry about complete lack of any targets on the course of the game. You know, it was George Kittle that came out and talked about his practice habits changing. Oh, it was? It was other players on the team. I mean, it was Shanahan, too. I watched the whole interview where Shanahan said, you know, he basically made the game the week before with the blocks, the way he practices. But, you know.

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You just have to temper your expectations. And this is not an auto can't ever put them in your lineup situation. This team could be changing quarterbacks too. I mean, this could happen. They keep losing football games. But it did work out this week, six for 89 and a touchdown. And I think that does it for the wide receiver studs. George Kittle is back. Hey. Six for 101 and one. He's an auto start every single time. I know people were freaked out about it.

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Put him in your lineup. Kelsey got back into the end zone, five for 68 and a touchdown. He feels a little bit more like he has to right now than he used to with the yardage totals. Darren Waller, I mean, the big names actually got it done this week, seven for 92 for Waller. And then what, three chargers? Three chargers in the top tier on the week. You obviously had Jared Kuuk. Who was number three of that list? Yes, he was. Donald Parham Jr. and Stephen Anderson.

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All right, we got to have the Parham discussion. Okay, let's have it because we know what it is. So we, like, you want to say a person's name correct. Absolutely. We take pride in getting that right. And wrong. And wrong. Yeah. Every once in a while, it's good. But on the broadcast, they were emphatically saying his name was Donald Parham. Parham. Parham. No, I mean, that did it. Let's just, I'm reacting to this because I wasn't watching with you guys.

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That's probably advantageous for our show. Oh, it would be fantastic news for us if his name is... If he went ham. If it's truly Donald Parham, but I just... It can't be Parham, right? We need our crack. Now, I will say I... When I was watching him score that touchdown, I don't know if it was Red Zone. They went parham.

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