Week 9 Studs, Duds, and Supervillains! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/6

Because they were giving him basically 70 plus percent of snaps last week and he was dominating. Something happened. Are you saying about the second half? The, like the hit in the legs gets up, starts doing, as he said, toe lifts. Right. Just right in the middle of the football game. You know, my calves, I got to get a pump. I got to get a workout in. My calves are looking a little small in the pants right now. I got to pump him up. Well, just like he's done his whole career. And then while playing football games, he always does that. Wait, no, he's never, ever, ever done that. And so, yeah, so I think something happened at the end of the previous game that made them just limit his utilization the rest of that game. And that's why we saw Moss. Moss was 23% of snaps. And at this point going forward, it should be the Jonathan Taylor show. Joe Mixing had himself a nice fantasy day. We're back at that he is a.

Workhorse for a high-powered offense. Granted his touchdown, well, they were doing everything they could to get Joe Burrow a passing touchdown. And unfortunately, Jamar Chase dropped an easy one. If you have Jamar, fortunate for you if you have Joe Mixing. And of course, Derek Henry, Najee Harris. We already talked about those guys. And T. Higgins had, O, T, yeah. He should have had a touchdown. Right. stepped out of bounds. A little bit. We'll talk about him in just a moment. But Tank Dell, Noah Brown, Nico Collins. Man, Nico had that early touchdown, and I felt like I did it. I nailed it, got the Nico star of the week. I am a wizard, and I had the wrong Houston Texan. It worked out. You had the third best Houston Texan, who, keep in mind, is a wide receiver one right now on the week. Right. Three wide receivers.

As wide receiver ones, man, they, CJ Stroud was just on fire. He was incredible Tank Dell, 11 targets, 6 for 114. Noah Brown and a shout out to the Borgogan and Matthew Betts working the DFS pass. Noah Brown was listed this week as a dart throw. Hope you threw that dart into some tourneys. Kyle even told me when I was. Talking to the, you know, our lineups and stuff. He mentioned, he was like, hey, Noah Brown's a good, good, good start this week. I was like, eh, he said, shut up, Kyle. Shut up, Kyle. I'll let me do what I want. Know your place. Shut your mouth. Yeah, he was, no, but, but he did know what he was talking about. CD Lamb. Holy crap, man, 16 targets, 11 for 191.

We didn't get a touchdown, unfortunately. Yeah, but he looks unstoppable right now. But now we are the last three games. I mean, very much coincides with Dax Ascension. But three weeks ago, it was 7 for 117, 12 for 158, 11 for 191. Are we getting 200 yards next week, Jason? It's been ascending. I do not think so because I don't think you're going to need to throw the ball a ton against the New York Giants. That's lame. Yeah, you just hope for an early touchdown. But do you remember when earlier we were talking about how nice Dax's upcoming schedule was? Yeah. Same schedule. Oh, for CD? For CD. He has the same one. That's good. I thought they might have conflicting schedules. So that's real helpful. Amari Cooper. Deshawn Watson was back-ish?

And it turned into a great day for Amari Cooper 5 for 30, 1.39 and one touchdown. One touchdown that we were trying to figure out we need to, this should not be allowed. It should not be allowed. The refs should have thrown a flag on that play and said, no, illegal, stupid, that we need to replay that down. It should not count. If you have not seen this touchdown, it shouldn't count. It's not fair. Deshaunne Watson. throws a terrible ball into the helmet of his own player. Just awful pass. Are you, are we sure this wasn't an intentional trick shot? Like the old, like the Michael Jordan McDonald's commercials. Yeah, over the, yeah, off the helmet. Yeah. Uh, 20 feet in the air. Nothing but Cooper. Yeah. Um, so he, he, he threw the ball at his own player's helmet.

It ricocheted off, flew to the end zone, and landed in Amari Cooper's hands. And it counts. Stefan Diggs, six for 86 and one, got the late touchdown last night, chilling at the wide receiver three on the season. Deontay. That was awful. What's that? That touchdown was awful. For us, Mike. Oh. For our champ champ champ team. And we lost to Kyle, which we were beating him the whole time. The only thing that could not happen for us to lose is a Diggs touchdown because he had the stack. I will tell you after tonight if it's terrible because the most important league is still league of record currently. And I needed that touchdown real bad. Real, real bad. If Herbert goes off tonight and I lose that one and in Dino Jr., then I will join you and say it was real stupid. Okay. Deonti Johnson, incredible game. AJ Brown.

It's just nonstop now, seven for 66 and a touchdown. Devante Smith. Oh, the streak is over. Which streak? No more 125-yard games for age. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, he's still dominant. What a loser. They're heading into the by week. Devante Smith, if I could get him on my roster right now, I would really be trying to do that. Yeah, and on a by week a lot of times you can get someone for cheaper. T. Higgins, Andy's start of the week. He was back eight for 110. Should have had a touchdown, but he did not. But T. Higgins is back. He gets Houston, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Johan Dotson. Where is, is John Dotson back? Hmm. This is a redemption tour for a lot of players. Yeah, no, I think so. Is it possible? Yeah, because the last three games, you know, as long as Samuel was out. Well, it happened before Samuel was out. The last three games, eight targets, ten targets, eight targets. That's.

That's incredible utilization. So whatever happened, you know, he had one target the week prior to that. They are involving him more. And I don't think we ever thought Jahan Dotson isn't a good football player. Correct. So it's just a matter of why aren't you using him. Now they're using him. Their defense is willfully worse. They traded away some of their defensive line. They are now actively playing for the future. So I think that, yeah, they're going to try to make sure that the young guys on this team are built up for success for the future. I'm absolutely back. The last three games right now, he's on pace for 1,200 yards, 147 targets, like, you know, basically what we hoped coming into the season. NBA Jam rules has him heating up, and he gets to take on the Seahawks next week. So he might be on fire by the end of that.

Chris Olave. We did it. Hey, we did it. Hey, eight targets. I mean, six for 46 and one, probably a touchdown. He got the touchdown. I'm sure he had a crap ton of air yards that he didn't convert because this is what happens. But we got the touchdown. Gets Minnesota next week, then a biweek than Atlanta. Let's get rolling. Derek Carr, Chris O'Lave, let's get rolling. At the tight-end position, the doctor. Oh, man. Perhaps. Last week against Carolina was simply a blip because we had 11 targets, 10 for 130 and a touchdown. That will not be prescriptive that level of usage. But, I mean, you now have. It kind of is. Well, I'm saying the 11 targets because they were in a shootout. Right. But, but him being a featured target. I mean, week five, you had 10 targets. Seven targets, week six. Then they had their by week. He is a.

an integral part of this offense, and it was nice to see, obviously, the shootout thing is true, but it was nice to see with Tankdale back that he can still coexist. I mean, obviously that 130 yards on a touchdown for a tight end is incredible. Even the down week against Carolina, it was at 21% of the targets. So over the past month of games for them, he has seen 28% of CJ shrouds targets. I mean, I was a big doubter that it would keep going, but. At this point, you have to be bought in. You've got to be bought in. Let me ask you, because I think that these two players are similar archetypes. One is a replacement of the other. But Dalton Schultz versus Jake Ferguson, his replacement in Dallas. Right. Who has looked like him and Dak are starting to connect more and more. He's becoming a really important target. I mean, he had 10 targets last night, 7 for 91 and a touchdown. A great game.

For him, he's super involved around the red zone. Which player would you rather have going forward? I'd rather have Ferguson. Okay. I think I would as well. It's still there. The Cowboys schedule, I think they're going to keep putting up points through the air. Cole Kamet? Cole Kamau? Dude, he was awesome. The Secret Bayeget Man loves Cole Komet. But, I mean, there was one of his touchdowns. Just head topped. I mean, he just outmanned that other guy on a pass that shouldn't have been thrown and said, I'll take this touchdown. And I really enjoy his little baseball celebration, his little home run. You like that one? I like it. I like that he's got a thing. Kyle, you probably remember someone else used to do that. I'm sure plenty of people. There was a, Kyle, look into this. Someone else had the touchdown celebration of the.

the home run swing. That was a prominent fantasy player. Kate Otten, six for 70 and two. Oh, JJ Watt used to do it. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Kate Otten had himself a great game. Will it continue? I don't know. Jake Ferguson, we got Fergalicious, baby, seven for 91 with a touchdown. 10 targets. The connection between him and Dak is it's starting to lock in. Yeah, I mean, he's the number two weapon in this offense. That's clear now. Right. It's not Gallup. It's not Brandon Cooks. It's Jake Ferguson. It's just like what we saw from Dalton Schultz last year. So if they're going to have to pass, then I think Jake Ferguson should have good game. The schoon man almost had a touchdown, Jay. I don't know if you saw that play. I mean, they were inches away from lots more points where the Cowboys. Alfred Morris, thank you. Thank you, Owl. That is exactly who I was trying to remember. It was Alfred Morris running back for the Manders. That was his go-to. You know, freaking.

Waver Wire Superstar. Oh, yeah. That was a great time. Jonu Smith, five for a hundred and a touchdown. And he also had a carry because Arthur Smith got to the goal line and says, you know what I need to do? A jet sweep with Jonu. Yeah. It's the perfect, it's the perfect play design to sit down in the week while you're prepping for the week and go, how can I anger these fantasy football managers? I got it. There is a rushing touchdown, so you can't get points for Taylor Heineke, a rushing touchdown to Johnny Smith, the player who angers people the most. I cannot be convinced otherwise. That play was fully intentional. Oh, yeah. Fully intentional. Fully intentional that this is, he knows that when he's designing this play up, that fantasy people are going to get big mad. I 100% agree with that. It didn't work. You lost.

Yeah. Okay. We're really angry at him today. Tassum Hill. Look, man, that Andy started the week, he had himself a very fine week, but Tassum Hill, four for 13 in a touchdown. That was in the receiving game. 11 for 52. Wait, didn't he? I thought he threw a touchdown. I thought he threw one to Joanne. He got points from every possible way. He was a tight end as a receiver. He was a quarterback in this game and he was a running back in this game. I saw someone submit for Monday Monday. I'll take some points from here. I'll taste some points from there. I'll taste some points from everywhere. That's a good one. Yeah. Very well done. Yeah. And then Joanne Johnson sneaks in because he got a touchdown. Just good to see him back on the field. Mark Andrews. It was ho-hum, but it's nine for 80. I mean, he's still Mark Andrews. Dalton Kincaid. Jason started the week 10 for 81.

He, I mean, he looks Cincinnati. He looks like he's going to be in a very good spot moving forward. He does. Cincinnati is one of those matchups, though, that you desperately want to target. They are schedule adjusted the worst against tight ends. Two of the other worst, most, the teams you want to target are the Denver Broncos and surprisingly, the New York Jets. Those are great targets for tight ends. Will you kindly read me Dalton Kincaid's upcoming schedule? Dalton Kincaid plays the Denver Broncos, the New York Jets. Oh, fantastic. And the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, I mean, keep rolling him out there right now. And those games are guaranteed to have him on the field because Dawson Knox can't come back from IR yet. So Kincaid is an awesome play. So I'm realizing we made it through the wide receiver part of this, Duds.

Or are we saying that Gabe Davis just does not have big boy pants anymore? I feel like personally, we're still in the studs. Wait, we're not to the dust. I don't know what you're thinking. Sorry. I had just, I was thinking about how good, uh, Dalton Cade had done and I was thinking of how bad. Yes. So no, we, we will dunk on him with just a moment, everybody. Uh, Luke Musgrave, freaking Jason. Yeah. Jason played Luke Musgrave in our fantasy face off. And. I may have had some words for him in the morning, making fun of him. And I looked really good for the majority of the game. And then Luke scores his first touchdown ever. Yeah, three for 51 and a touchdown. Again, tight ends are one of those. You target certain matchups. The Rams are one of those. Hunter Henry had a touchdown. David Nogoku had a touchdown. Yeah, Alvin, the chipmunk.

started Luke Musgrave against me, and it was very successful. I won this week. Yeah, you did. I dominated you by zero point something. But I got second, so I'm not in trouble. Hunter Henry David and Joku also scored touchdowns this week, moving them into studs. Thanks again to our sponsor, NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV with NFL Sunday ticket. It's never been easier to keep up with all your fantasy players. Watch the rest of the NFL season for half the price at... $174 when bundled with YouTube TV. Sign up at YouTube.com slash fantasy footballers. Terms and embargoes apply, no refunds. All right, let's get into the Gabe Davis section of the show. Poopped in his big boy pants. We're back here with Lamar Jackson, who had a very good game. Oh, yeah. Dominated the Seahawks, ran.

Like a gazelle had some great rushing attempts, 60 rushing yards. That usually gives you a good enough baseline to have a great game, especially when you put up 37 points against Seattle. But it was all rushing. It was all rushing touchdowns for Gus had two, the rookie had one. So it was just, and we've seen this a couple times now, obviously when Gus had three rushing touchdowns last week. That's two really, really bad weeks in a row from Lamar for fantasy where he played excellent. Yes. It's frustrating. What do you do? You just keep playing Lamar. It's very similar. Let me ask you about this guy. So to a rough game against Kansas City. Kansas City is a great defense. They are a great team. Only 193 passing yards, one passing touchdown. Two, we were just talking about quarterbacks. And to me,

Tua was in that list of these are the guys I don't care about the matchup. I'm locking them in because the ceiling for Tua is the number one overall quarterback. Yeah. But we've now seen when the dolphins are playing good teams, good teams are figuring out how to shut down the passing attack. Are you still in with Tua being a, he's on a buy week, so there's nothing for that. But then it's the Raiders, but then it's on the road against the Jets. Are you? still leaving to it in that must-start category? Yeah, I'm definitely leaving to it in the must-start category. He's going to be in my lineup if he's on my team because you're not going to have him with someone better than him. I'm not going to, he's not in the category where I'm playing someone off of waivers in a good matchup. Well, but I'm saying like, what if you had DAC? Oh, well, yeah. I mean, DAC is in that situation right now for me too. And a locked-in starter? Yeah, if you had both of those guys, then I would be playing matchups in a situation like that.

I think that's probably rare, but that could have been on waivers. So that's a fair, that's a fair counterpoint. Gino Smith. I mean, the Seahawks were dominated. The Seahawks, I mean, this was a battle of two first place teams in their division. And the AFC said, boy, get out of here. Gennessee, you suck. I mean, Gino's been. It did the clock strike midnight for Gino Smith. Is he a pumpkin? Yeah, I'm asking you. I'm planning on starting him this next week. I've got Jalen Hertz on by. The matchup against Washington looks wonderful. We'll go one more. We'll go one more go here with Gino Smith, but it has been very frustrating for all Seahawks for fantasy football. I mean, since week three, he hasn't scored 15 fantasy points as a quarterback. That's awful. Yeah, you got to play him against Washington. Alvin Camara. What? How did...

How does Elvacca, the way that he's being utilized, how does he possibly end up in this list? But against Chicago, nine for 26, four for 44 through the air, the other running backs, and, I mean, and Tasum Hill, he's not officially running back, but they got worked in. I think Henry Miller got banged up. I can't remember off the top of my head exactly what happened, so maybe we'll report on that later. Hey, look, it's two Seahawks. Kenneth Walker, the third. Pun was submitted. Can you guess what it was, Jason? I saw a lot of them. Well, I'm saying, if you say the full name, Kenneth Walker, the third, had a bad game, you would say Kenneth Walker. The third. Yep. Just making sure we're sympathetico here. And Zach Charbonnet, who out snapped Walker yet again, but neither of these players really got any sort of workload. The Seahawks got their butts whooped, so hopefully that was just a product of them.

getting their butts whooped. Yeah, some of the worries about what Kenneth Walker could lose with Charbonnet in the beginning of the season appear to be happening now. And it's interesting because if you watched Pete Carroll's press conference after last week and he was gushing over Charbonnet, what he talked about was he didn't realize how much they missed Charbonnet until he missed that game in week seven. And so it was like, he likes what he brings to the table, and now all of a sudden you've got him with more snaps two weeks in a row. And while I don't think you can play Charbonnet on his own yet, it does hurt Kenneth Walker. He's losing touches. Yeah. Bijon Robinson, 11 for 51, 2 for 8 through the air, had the fumble. Arthur Smith, seeing Bijon fumble was probably the happiest moment of his season because then he got to bench him. Tony Pollard. Oh, man.

Tony Pollard, 12 for 51, five targets, but only three for 12. He did have a goal line touchdown that was called back. Speculation on whether or not the penalty was the correct call or not, but it still took it away. And Tony Pollard has now gone a tweet from Ian Hartitz, an NFL high, 136 consecutive touches without a touchdown. Yeah, and ridiculous. I mean, it's just, his floor is not. what you think it should be correct. As the, you know, he's, when you tell me he's playing 77% of the snaps, he's getting the opportunities for a good offense, his floor has to be higher than what it's been. But if you actually look, seven fantasy points, six fantasy points, 14 before the buy, 6.4 fantasy points, 7.5 fantasy points. This is five weeks.

five weeks in a row where he hasn't hit eight fantasy points outside of one game. I mean, I don't know what you do. I know you guys have stayed bullish on him. I've been worried about him. The matchups coming up appear much, much, much better. So maybe you see him as a trade low candidate at this point. Because I don't think it's getting any worse. And the Giants and Carolina. And Washington, the next three matchups coming up are all teams you should be able to run on. You should have a big lead in. But it is worrisome. And it's been like, if you've got Pollard, you've been losing games because of Pollard. I have a league where I have Lamar, Bijon, and Tony Pollard. I didn't win this week. But so let me flip that conversation back then because, yes, Andy and I have stayed, remained bullish on Tony Pollard believing it's going to get better.

You have remained the most bullish on Bijon that it's going to get better. Yeah. I mean, another game of disappointing output for Bejan Robinson, where are you in terms of that? Like, do you still believe of the ceiling or do you just think that he's a safeish player? How do you view him rest of season? I view him as he's been so far this season, which is... He doesn't have a rock star ceiling, a top five running back ceiling. But, you know, if you look, you know, his just fantasy points, he's got a game of 17, of 19, of 16. His disappointing games recently, 10.8, 10.5, 12.2, that's still fine. It's not what you hoped when you were drafting him in the first round. But I do think that his floor is,

is higher this was his worst game of the season um but he also from headache gate right right i mean i'm yes a couple weeks ago when he unexpectedly was ill and it wasn't reported and he didn't play in the game um that was his worst game of the season but that's you know you can't blame him for that um this was his actual worst game while he played he lost a fumble and i think that that played a big part. Obviously, you lose fantasy points and you lose the opportunity to score on that drive, yada, yada. Yeah. Pollard and Bijon, I think, are going to be very interesting of the, like, Bijon is a great player. I think Tony Pollard's a great player too, but Bijon is electric, has a coach who won't give him opportunities. So you have like a regression type of a thing where there's a world where he gets more work. And Tony Pollard.

Like he's already getting the work. And then there's the regression world where just the touchdowns start coming back to him because Dallas is putting up a whole bunch of points. They happen to be coming through the passing game. So watching those two in particular, I think it's going to be fascinating. DeAndre Swift had a down game 18 for 43. It was against Dallas. I'm just going to move on from that. Zach Moss, we discussed it a little bit, but are you? Are you starting Zach Moss? No. No, no way. No way. He got 21% of the snaps. He is now the backup to a superstar. I think you've got to view him as an insurance back at this point. We were waiting for this to happen. Yes. And we thought it was going to happen last week. That was like the trajectory. And then the second half weirdness of what happened last week.

made us believe, oh, maybe it's just going to be 50% the rest of the way. Just had a little recalculating. We took an early turn, and the GPS is like, no, you weren't, you weren't supposed to do that. You turn, go back. So I think he's obviously a wonderfully valuable insurance running back. If something happens to Jonathan Taylor, we already know he's going to be awesome. But he is, he is, he's not in a timeshare. Isaiah Pacheco, 16 for 66. I, I. traded for Pacheco. So, of course, the first game I get from him is the first game he hasn't caught a pass all year. Fantastic. Pretty sweet. Enjoy his bye week. Uh, yep, I will. James Cook. Uh, 55% of the snaps. I'm not going to hit the button because Latavis said 45 and the dump truck is on his way. Top 24 and only four of nine games for James Cook. He's just not getting enough work. He's not getting valuable touches. The running back.

room, the running back totals for the Buffalo Bills has stayed the same this year as it has been during the Josh Allen tenure, which is not very valuable. And so if you're splitting up, you want the passing game here. I think that they as a team want to change. They just can't. They just don't know how. It's not in Josh Allen's blood. Both the Rams, running backs had a down game. Daryl Henderson was 10 for 19. Yeah, Brett Rippin Farts, man. I mean, if Matthew Stafford is... So are you... Is Henderson a almost a full bench? He's a must, must bench until Matthew Stafford is back. Like, I am benching everybody. I'll bench Cooper Cup for a... Oh, man. For a middling ass. Brett Rippin Farts was so...

unbelievably bad. It was just nothing. You couldn't, it would be like if I played quarterback. You can't play Cooper Cup if I'm out there playing quarterback. I would bench Cooper Cup if you were the starting quarterback for the Rams. Just letting you know. I would do that. And I'd be ripping farts too. Speaking of farts, Devin Singletary. Come on, man. How do the Texans put up that performance? And Devin Singletary is on the field for 75% of the snaps. And the guy does absolutely nothing. That one felt really bad. 75% of the snaps, 93% of the running back rush attempts, 50% of the running back targets. It is exactly the type of game you dream of that he's all alone and he's going to get all the opportunity. He just wasn't very good. Jamar Chase, four for 41. He still had eight targets and a degreeously dropped touchdown.