Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Mock Draft! News, Notes, and Mailbag.

Let's just go Alshan Jeffrey because I like him. He's a big boy. All right, Mike, you had the last pick of the second round as well as the first and the third round, and you grabbed Lamar Miller and Randall Cobb. Yeah, and I will say this about Miller. I've been tremendously high on him. I am, he has slid a little bit down my rankings, but he still have him as an RB1.

I slid out your rankings because of Ajahe. Yeah, because of Ajahe. I think Ajahe will get some carries and some catches. But Miller is going to be a great two-down back. I think he's shown that he needs to, he's another guy who needs to hold up, similar to Ingram. But I want pieces of that Miami offense. I think they're going to be very high power this year. And Miller's going to be on the field more than any other running back. So that's the guy I took.

Yeah, I'm really interested to see how this year pans out with him because if he is the guy all year long, then I feel like they're committing to him. But if he's not, I still worry about him being a one year kind of thrust into it because of injury and can he hold up. He is high risk, and he's the guy. That's why I like a guy. If he's the guy, if Miller is the guy, he will be a monster. It's like C.J. Anderson. If he ends up being the guy, it's going to be huge. Because the offense is too good. Exactly.

So that's why it's worth the risk for me. All right. So second round went ODB, Desd, Des, Andrew Luck, Demaris Thomas, Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Aaron Foster, Jeremy, DeMarco Murray, Mark Ingram, Alshan, Jeffrey, and Lamar Miller. We got time for the third round? Which tannums do you like? After the first two. Which, you know, looking through, you got the Aaron Rogers and Mark Ingram tandem. I don't like that for my first two.

You know, we talked about Matt Forte Calvin Johnson versus. I like Rob Gruncowski and Aaron Foster a lot. That's your team. Makes sense. Makes sense. But it's true. Peterson Murray is nice. Oh, Peterson Murray is great. If I had a choice between Peterson Murray or Lacey Miller, I would definitely want Peterson Murray. Yeah, Peterson Murray is very nice. Would you rather have Peterson Murray or Jamal Charles and Jeremy? Peterson Murray sounds like a law firm.

Yeah. So the Coobes, the Coobes drafting number five. Jeremy Hill and Jamal Charles. Jeremy Hill and Jamal Charles. I have my Charles concerns, but as far as that excitement coming out of my draft where I get to wave my paper in everyone's face with that has my names on it, I'd be pretty happy with that.

All right, let's breeze through the third round here and then get the mailbag as well, because we got, I think, six or seven questions. Really good questions people sent in, so I don't want to miss them. All right, round three, Randall Cobb, like I said, he goes off the board. He went off before Jordy Nelson. I will be completely honest. This is what happened. Accident. I forgot I was on the turn, and I was going to take Jordy at the end of the second, and I switched, I don't know, it was one of those things, like a ceremonial.

Like, no, I'm going to go double RB to start. And so I switched the names. And then the children got all up in my face. And somehow it turned into Randall Cobb because I was thinking of a Packers. And I made a faux pa. Percentage chance that Randall Cobb outperforms Jordy Nelson this year in fantasy football. I think 25%. I mean, it's not.

It's not unthinkable. But you're not predicting that by this pick. No, if this was more, whoops. If I had my complete wits about me, it's Jordy Nelson 100% 100 times out of 100, maybe 99. On this show, you've literally said he's like your number one guy. And I looked at my rankings after we were done. I was like, I have Jordi at number two. So that was a horrific mistake.

Excellent. Those are excellent. Could you just do that during our normal season? Yeah. Bring your children to our real draft. Yeah, they're invited. Actually, I'll buy them food. Absolutely. I'm making sure. Do you want to drive them, Jason? Absolutely. I'll pick them up. Sugar them up. Yeah. I want that to happen. And if you remember my story about Disneyland where my children sleep. My children are ruining my life. They're directly related to all of your draft and start related mistakes. All fantasy football faux paws.

Are my children's fault. Yeah, yeah. Just blame the kids. All right. Jason, you ended up with the, you had the second pick. You take Alf. Alfred, Alfred Blue. I took him super early. I just have a hunch. You were worried about me grabbing him as a handcuff. Yeah, exactly. So, Alfred Morris, to pair with Alshan Jeffrey and Lev Bell. Yeah. I love the pairing of Alfred Morris with Lev Bell.

Yeah, well, you've got consistent numbers coming in. I think that's a legitimate, you've got an absolute running back one and running back two. I don't see Alfred Morris finishing below a running back two. What's the car he drives? Do you remember the car? It's like an 85 Miata or something like that. Boy, is he not old reliable? He's that reliable workhorse running back. Yeah, and even the team already came out and said that, you know. Even though they drafted a running back in the third. Yeah, I mean.

It wasn't the third, was it? It was. Oh, wow. Yeah, they came out and said that Alfred's still the starter, and he's the man. We were just talking about that because Alfred Morris is on his contract year. Yeah. This is where they run him into the ground and give him 700 balls and then let him go. That was a spectacular point that I don't think I've heard anywhere. Yeah, I mean, is the back thing's on his contract year. Think about what they did with DeMarco Murray. They ran him into the ground and gave him 7 million balls to carry and then said, yeah, we don't want to resign you. You're going to die.

Not $7 million, that's for sure. No. And then they did that with March on Lynch, but then they just paid him $12 million. I won't lie. This may have bumped Alfred Morris up a little bit. So he moves up to you because of that. Absolutely. As opposed to... They've already talked in the third rounder to maybe take some of the load away to establish him for next year. Because that could be an argument someone else can make. They've talked about that... I can think it's just coach speak, but they've talked about Alph saying they think he's going to have an even better year this year, which...

Last year was not bad. He'll have a better year if RG3 is under center for the whole season. Absolutely. I mean, your odds are about 1%. But it's still, I love Alf with RG3. Yeah. And he's, Alfred Morris, he's kind of that forgotten guy, another one of the forgotten guys, where people were mad, frustrated with him last year because he wasn't producing as consistent as he used to, but he still finished strong.

And he's still a great running back. He's still the goal line back. Yep. That's the big piece there, too. The catching experiment was basically a failure. But there's nothing wrong with having a really strong two-down back. Those guys can be very productive. Yep. And if your league gives points for carrying injured quarterbacks off the field, he is invaluable. Invaluble. All right. Such a great guy. So Jordi ends up falling down to number three in the third round, probably...

Whoops. Just a precipitous, terrible drop for Jordy Nelson in our mock draft. Doesn't belong in the third round at all. But he ended up there to Paul's team, yeah, with Mark. So Mark Ingram, Aaron Rogers team ends up with Jordy Nelson. They got bailed out big time. Get that Rogers combo. Jimmy Graham goes off the board. Fourth pick of the third round. Is this too early? Too late? Seems about right. I still don't believe in Jimmy this year, but for where you're going to have to grab him, he's not going to go much lower than that.

All right, let me read the rest of the third round. You guys pick out a guy or two that you want to talk about. Jimmy Graham went fourth pick of the third round. Then you got Peyton Manning, Emmanuel Sanders, DeAndre Hopkins, Joyke Bell, Justin Forsett, Jonathan Stewart, Drew Brees, and the round ended with Mike Evans. There's a couple guys who I'd like to talk about. But I really like Justin Forsett's value there.

Yeah, I do too. I think that he's, you know, he finished number 12 last year. And so, you know, he was a running back one. And I don't think, man, with Mark Trussman coming in, I just love, love Justin Forsett's ability this year, especially, I don't love that the way that I love Jeremy Hill as in, man, he's going to be able to finish as a number one back. I love it as the fact that here.

is where you can grab him. You can get him in some drafts. You think this is where his ADP is going to fall? I think that he'll be a little bit higher than this, but I think if you get him in the third round, if you can get Justin Fawcett. Yeah, in the beginning of the third. I love that. You're getting an RB1, in my opinion, a low-end RB1 or a high-end RB2 in the third round. I mean, what more are you asking for? I don't know why I argue with the Justin Fawcett talk, because I did that all last year in my head. Every single week, I thought it was going to be over, and it wasn't.

And he did all that. I mean, he ran the ball really well. Baltimore opened up the holes for him, but he did that with 44 catches. That's going to go up. Oh, yeah. We've got to be a 75 catch guy. I was going to say between 1670.

And if he can keep up the rushing production from last year. Honestly, Buck Williams doesn't scare me. I tried to make every argument in my mind to make that happen so I could win my Latavius Murray, Justin Forset bet. But I'm not going to win that bet if Justin Forset gets the workload he got last year mixed in with Trestman. I mean, he's perfect for that offense. Oh, yeah. You know, yeah, I'm coming around. All right, Mike. Joyick Bell is a guy I want to talk about because I am. Third round, into the third round? I am super high on Amir Abdullah.

I think that I saw Evan Silva was talking about him and he actually has the same opinion as me. Why don't you get married? If Evan Silva would have me, I would be off the show immediately. But he's talking about, he feels like Abdullah is going to take the lead role by the fifth game. And I was thinking, I actually, that's not too bad of an over, setting an over under for me for Abdullah to start taking the reins away. And so that puts joick.

In the third, it's just a garbage pick who's going to not produce anything close to that value. And Abdullah, who's going to go late, it's going to be a steal, and he's going to win leagues. If I had to make an argument for Amir Abdullah's situation in a parallel, would it be Ben Jarvis Greenellis when Geo Bernard came in? That's fine, but Ben Jarvis is a better back than Joick. Oh, my gosh. No, he's not. Joach is a career 3.9 yards of carry guy.

How's that? What's Ben Jarvis Green Ellis? Ben Jarvis Green Ellis was legit. Are you kidding? Oh, my goodness. The law firm, man. You two are ridiculous. Yeah, but I don't know. I think that Joyc Bell is not going to be anything close to that. Abdullah is going to take over. Except for the goal line where it matters. Maybe. All right. Any closing thoughts? Did you look up Ben Jarvis? Do you know how to use Google? Do you know how to use Internet? Looking it up. Move on. Do, do, do, do. Say, but Theo Riddick got a lot of

dump touchdowns from Stafford. A lot might be exaggerating. Well, what did he get? I think I have four or five, but that number can go up. The lions, while I think they're going to run more, they've shown they're not afraid to throw a little swing pass when they're on the goal line. Yeah, so to get back to Ben Jarvis Green Ellis, he was 4.4 yards of carry guy in New England, but his first year was Cincinnati was 3.9.

Okay. What about the rest of the years, Mr. Hydeem from me? Wait. No, he did. He gave him. He said to the Bengals, he was with 3.9. Yeah, 3.9. His last year, when he was pretty much dead, he was 3.4. But that was after what you're talking about. Okay. Well, you're being selective with your statistics there. Yeah, I didn't want to bore people with every statistic. Fort Travis Green Ellis. Four, well, we asked for the truth, brother. You can't handle the truth. Detroit, four touchdowns for Redick last year.

For him. So let's go ahead. We want to hit the mailbag before the show ends. Make sure we answer some questions. So let's go ahead and do that right now. Mailbag. Payton Manning and the third is not too bad either. No. First time you'd consider a quarterback there? Yeah. Okay. Email comes in from Kermit de Frog. What? Yeah. Hey dudes. Hey dudes. Who's more valuable this year? Danny Woodhead or?

or Bishop Sanky. Answer this for standard half point PPR and full point PPR. Full point, I take Woodhead. Yeah. Just going on the record. Any kind of PPR of Woodhead and standard, I'll probably still take Woodhead. Standard I will take Sanky. I think I go Woodhead another. Well, Sanky's going to get usurped just like Joy Gable. By Cobb, by David Cobb? Yeah. All right. Any thoughts on that, Jay?

Yeah, I think that where, I mean, if this is a keeper question and rounds, you know, are already associated, then it changes. But if this is just going into a draft, I would definitely like Woodhead's value a hundred times. It's just who's more valuable. Yeah, Woodhead is, I think, going to be playing productively for more teams in the, you know, in the fantasy football season. And he's going to go way later. I'm going to disagree. I'm going to say BJ Sankey. Yeah, I'm going to say Bishop Sankey, for sure.