Fantasy Football - Keep/Trade/Cut + Shoot for the Moon! - Podcast for 4/9

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. He's back. Look at that smile. I don't know what all this. That's a million-dollar smile. What all these rumors were about? Caching, Caching, Caching. Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. Nothing was wrong. You guys just mixed up the recording time. Oh, our bad. Yeah. That's on us. As you can see, I have no problems by way of... This one was much faster than the last one. You guys don't, uh, you don't eat bolts? Because don't eat nuts and bolts, uh, no? No, I saw a, uh, a reel the other day of a guy who eats couches. That could be me. Wow. Yeah, too soft. I don't know, man. Too soft.

It can still, that could still get your teeth. Yeah, I mean, this is a hideaway. There's just so many problems that you could have is your thing. Right. That's not. And they don't have to be like, like you could have just, I don't know, massive foot fungus issues. You probably do. Oh, maybe. Might have some gout. And, uh, you wouldn't know, because I get to put a shoe over it. For the podcast, that's not a big deal. Now, we. Warts all over my life. I mean, littered with boils. Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. Um, But no, I have to have my thing be some sort of genetically mis-engineered teeth. Why do they keep breaking? The bolts? I'm too intense. That's what it is. And to be fair to you, not at all to your teeth. No. The taco you were eating was a soft taco. It was a soft taco. And it was my front tooth. Oh, man. I thought it was really genuinely big of you. It was big of you.

to yeah your your profile on on you put it on x i think you put it on instagram very funny it was so funny and you just put it out there for the whole world to see yeah yeah well we put it out for the whole world to show you start the show and you guys just start laughing to yourselves profusely and then one thing leads to another i'm like i gotta get out ahead of this what we need to do is get out ahead of the next time and figure out what we there will be a next time sure will i just hope it's we need a

days since Andy's last. Yes, right now it's zero. Like we can, this could go on the on the screen's easy. Yeah. Look, it took it just four hours in a dental chair and I'm back. No big right. We're glad to have you back. Oh my gosh. It was so ridiculous. It was moments before we were going to record too. I just couldn't. I thought about I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't come in here and host the show. Oh, I would have to look at it the whole time. It would have been well timed for Halloween if I wanted to be, you know.

Lloyd, Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber. Welcome into the show Thursday, April 9th, Fantasy Footballers podcast, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway with all of his teeth. And we got a great show for you today. Join thefoot.com. That is where the community of our listeners and supporters reside. About 40,000 strong over there, bonus weekly episode. You get all of our in-season tools. You get access to the ultimate draft kit and the Dynasty Pass if you're an ultimate member. And if you want to support this show, now, what, going into our, what season is it? This will be season 12. Season 12, still independent, fully independent. And we appreciate you guys supporting the podcast. Join thefoot.com for that. Our quick question, I've actually seen a lot. These questions come up frequently. Like what?

Normally they're worded like this. What would you ask for if someone wanted the 101 in the rookie draft from you? First of all, that is a very difficult question to answer generically for all leagues because you don't know what players are on other teams. I can't tell you a combination of players, which oftentimes that's more what it would be. It would be two really good vets or a star and a younger prospect or something like that. You know, my answer to the question, to give like a value, a lay of the land on value. If I am looking to unload the 101, which is Jeremiah Love, like so if I'm looking to get rid of Jeremiah Love in a dynasty league, then I would want to get a young stud wide receiver plus because I think right now, especially as you get close to the draft and people get hotter and bothereder. Like so Drake London and a 27 first, the 27 draft class is great. I would do that deal.

I would be willing to, you know, say, there you go, sign on. I feel like just the kind of, I mean, that that would be an easy yes for me. I guess I'm surprised that, like, is there not a world where you would rather have Drake London than the 101? Independent of the pick. I know, yes. You're going for value. I understand that. But like, if that trade was coming your way and your depth that both positions notwithstanding. You can make an easy argument for that. In fact, the easiest way to think about this is in a startup draft. where would you draft those guys? And I would take Drake London ahead of Jeremiah Love simply because of the position, a young wide receiver. I think he's 24 years old still versus a running back. To be clear, I don't think you read the whole quick question, but the example was to ask for a shoot for the moon trade.

So obviously, Drake London and the 27th first is a lot. That's a lot. That is shooting for the moon. But there will be managers in leagues that would be willing to do that. They're running back needy. And they're going to say, I'm going to get the next Bijan, the next Gibbs, the next superstar young running back that is a foundational piece. There's just not a lot of them in the league. We pretty much know this is going to be one. Yeah, I kind of jumped into quick. Steve had written in and just asked about. Being on a competitive team, what would be a shoot for the moon-type trade to float to league mates? You want to get somebody that helps you right now. It could take time for Jeremiah Love to get going depending on where the draft destination is. You get the extra pick. Would you trade, Mike, would you trade the 101 in this year's draft la Jeremiah I love for Garrett Wilson and a 2027 first round pick? Garrett Wilson is so tough. He will be turning 26 this year. I brought him up on.

this week's dynasty podcast because like I'm I am the Garrett Wilson guy and even I forgot how good it was like before so he played his first six weeks and he got hurt in week six but it's like I brought up weeks one through five last year Garrett Wilson was the wide receiver five at that time before getting hurt and once he got hurt they completely shut him down so even with as terrible as it was for the New York Jets and for Garrett Wilson. He was absolutely bawling out. I lean, I think Garrett Wilson, I'd rather have him in the pick. If you're just talking to one for one, I think I'm going to go Jeremiah Love. Like Garrett Wilson, I was reading through our startup rankings, and I got to Garrett Wilson before I thought, okay, if I'm in a startup, I might take Jeremiah Love over him. And the next name on the list, which is a,

Jay, interesting for our conversation on the Dynasty Pot is Rashid Rice. Yeah. Like if I have Rashid Rice, we discussed the Dynasty Pot of he's in, is he in the contract year? He's in the contract year. He's an unrestricted free agent because he wasn't a first round pick. This is his fourth season. He's asking for big time money. I could see him not showing up. You want to quote that more directly? Yeah. He said he's looking for JSN money, which you're not going to get. You're not that guy, pal. That's what he wants, which means you could end up in some holdout situation. But Rushi Rice, from a dynasty perspective, is the widest range of outcomes player possible because there is the reality where they re-sign.

Rushie Rice to a large big time deal, a wide receiver one deal. Could happen. That could absolutely happen. If that happens, Rushie Rice is a top five dynasty wide receiver tied to Patrick Mahomes. You know, you can't look at season totals because he's usually suspended for half of the year. And that comes with that risk. But on a per game basis, I mean, when he was playing last year with, he was like the wide receiver three. On a per game basis, he's he's outstanding. He's young. So that would be. one of the best assets in dynasty. You kind of got to call your shot. Because the other option that could happen is at the number nine pick in the NFL draft. Yep. They take the number one wide receiver. If Carnell Tate falls to him or if they, you know, McKay Lemon. Peter Schrager just had them taking Jordan Tyson at nine. And that in his mock, that was the first wide receiver off the board. Yes. If that happens, that.

can easily be seen as a replacement. Like, we can't afford to pay Rushie Rice with Patrick Mahomes, with Chris Jones, or we don't want to. Or we don't want to with the headache. We're going to draft a replacement. We'll have two great wide receivers this year. And we'll let Rushie Rice go get a monstrous contract in the offseason giving us compensatory picks. And when Rushie Rice goes to another team that isn't Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed and the little gadgety utilizing him perfectly, he's like, is he a wide receiver too? He's not going to go out there. Yeah, I mean, so he's one of those guys where he's on my main dynasty roster. And I'm like, should I be trying to get out? Because I see a lot on Twitter right now, like, now that the suspension is lifted. And we know he's free to play. He's way under value. You should go trade for him right now. And I'm still like, I mean, I could see that outcome. It's the range of outcomes that's so tantalizing and terrifying for Rashi Rice. I mean, he could literally, like you just said.

If he is the guy and gets a contract, he's a top five wide receiver. He still carries risk, but on field, there will be very little risk. So, like, wide receiver wise, who would you, you know, who would you take first, Jeremy Love or this wide receiver startup? So it's just, you know, you know the value. So, uh, we'll go, Malik neighbors. Neighbors. Okay. Okay. London. Yeah, London. Okay. I think it gets a little more difficult here. Tetoral McMillan. That was the name I knew you were going to say. And I would take Tet as well. Nico. That's where I'll flip. Nico's 27 years old. Yeah, that's raw flip. Yep. Okay. George? I would take love. You take love? Okay. And then so you'd probably take love over Garrett Wilson? Correct. Okay. So it's right around that wide receiver 10 range that you're a little bit more interested in love?

Yeah. Where the value proposition swaps for you. Yeah, I mean, that's where I think trading for one of those value switch proposition players like a Garrett Wilson, who I would take love above, but Gary Wilson plus a 27 first and a great draft class, that would be utilizing the 101 well. All right. Let's get into some news. News and notes from around the league. The Texans have picked up the fifth year option on their quarterback, C.J. Stroud, the recently. heavily maligned C.J. Stroud. Well, Johnson, as well. Less maligned. Just, come on, Stroud. Come on, buddy. When the, uh, when the defense is back. Yeah. Getting Tank Dale back. Mm-hmm. I mean, okay. I mean, he was much better with tank. Yeah, I mean, he was just much better. Yeah, that's fair. Before. Um, you know, I think when you have a defense as good as they do, the, the,

pressure is going to be squarely on his shoulders. Can he handle it? I don't know. We're going to be talking about our top 15 running backs and wide receivers on next week's episodes. This guy is in the top 15. Devon A. Chan did not report to the first day of voluntary offseason workouts. He is in the final year of his rookie deal. If I were to be Devon A. Chan for a moment, and I had seen the entire offseason of we're building everything around you, and he's one of the key, huh, 10th. tent posts of the team. I'd be like, give me that money. Yeah, like, I'm not, where's my money? Yeah, I'm not paid like a foundational player right now. Yeah, this. Lots of proclamations about how great he is and then no money. There were also rumors, though, that they might trade him as well. And considering they've traded everyone else and dismantled their team, I don't know that they want to pay for a running back on a second contract when you are a complete tear down to the nubs rebuild.

So I don't blame him for, you know, trying to get that money, not showing up to the voluntary portion of offseason programs. This is not a big deal. But big deals always start with this. So it's a just pay attention to monitor. I think it could end up in a place where we're much happier where H.N. can navigate himself a better deal. Yeah. You know, we didn't expect, like we thought James Cook might have a hard time getting a deal. James Cook got himself a deal. I look at A. Chan in the same breath, if not better. I've got him ranked very high. I think the highest of the three of us in terms of my top 15. He's just a machine. He's just that good. Yeah. Stay tuned to Tuesday to find out where. That sounded like a threat. It was like. Or else. Or else. Or else we won't tell you where we have him ranked.

Kyle Pitts signed the franchise tag will report to OTAs. He'll get paid big money for one more year. John Harbaugh will be monitoring this all offseason, unfortunately. Malik Neighbors won't be on the field until into training camp and closer to the season. It's going to be a while. It was ACL. It was meniscus. Don't love this. Matthew Betts, our injury experts, I'd look for him to return to his, you know, to return closer to his pre-injury level over the back half of the year. This was a place where I know. Because of this injury, I don't have neighbors as high as you guys have. Yeah, I probably have them too high with this new piece of information. We all have expectations and hopes, and we know what the talent level is. It's just his surgery date was October. It's a big recovery. He could make some tremendous progress, and we could be ready to see him on the field to start the year. But we'll see.

That whole team is just going to be one of the more interesting storylines in fantasy football all year long. What does Jackson Dart look like with the new head coach? Is Malik neighbors going to be back to his old self? Is Cam Scataboo the guy? Do they add another big time wide receiver in the draft? I mean, that seems... Jeremiah love actually going to be drafted. Oh, gosh, no. No, no. Just stop saying that. To be fair... I am usually the one saying there's no way they're going to do that. I'm giving them too much respect. They cannot possibly do that. It will be the most. No, I really don't believe that they will draft Jeremiah and love. There's a lot of people saying, oh, they like them. They might draft them. Why would they possibly do that? So, I mean, are you prepared to turn on Harbaugh and company? Oh, yes. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure that we're talking like this.

When actions show up, there must be a reaction. For sure. Okay, good. Back will be turned. Did you see all the news about like. Harbaugh, you've been warned? The Isaiah likely utilization and expectations for his stats and things like that. Those comments from Harbaugh. I didn't see though. I don't know if you guys had brought it up on the show. Nope. For no reason. But no, there was some conversation about just likely and him putting up the stats that fantasy players want to see. Oh. So. Oh. Again, another exciting storyline on this team. Do John Harbon know he had Isaiah Likeley on his team? Yeah, he did. And you know what it's been... For multiple years? In fact, all of them? You want to know what's been said for the last three years? Oh, no. Is it the Rashad Bateman stuff? No, it's the Isaiah Likely stuff. Isaiah likely is going to be a pro bowl. He did say that last year. He's going to be so involved. I've been holding on to Isaiah likely on my dynasty team waiting for that transition. Gonna be. Oh, gonna be.

This is what we're waiting for. We're all trying to find the guy who's going to do this. Theo Johnson breakout year coming. That's all that means. We'll take a break. We'll get into some Keep Trade Cut. All right, guys. Let's have some more fun conversations and dive right in. Keep Trade Cut. All right. Time for some more strong opinions. We're going to play some Keep Trade Cut. Some different categories for these discussions. A lot of these are dealing with positions and players that we are in the midst of ranking for next week's shows as well. So maybe some opinions will be shared a little bit early right now. Let's start with three names at the running back position, all top 15 picks in redraft leagues. Keep trade cut. Ashton Genti of the Las Vegas Raiders.

Devon A. Chan of the Miami Dolphins and Omari and Hampton of the Los Angeles Chargers. Oh, man. And this is for just redraft, just this season who scores the most fantasy points. Yep, I, I, you guys had your top 15 running backs. The keep is in the dock. Easy before. Yeah, it's A. Yeah. The keep is, we all agreed there. Yes, we are all agreed there. Yeah, A. Chan is, he's one of a handful of guys that I think are in conversation for that top five. Like to finish, I mean, could A-chan finish number one? Probably not on the dolphins, but I mean, he has the talent, the past catching ability. It's not impossible to me. I, yeah, I would say I wouldn't put it at zero percent. I don't know if we would say yes to the Gentie Hampton potential. Ashton Gentie, Omari and Hampton, I believe both of you had them back-to-back in your top 15. I do.

I do as well in an opposite order. They are not back to back. Okay. I misspoke. They are currently two spots apart. You guys both put Hampton first. That is correct. Yeah. Does that scare you at all? Yeah, it does scare me. I mean, Gentie is obviously the higher touted player. But if you look at the situations of the two teams, I have a lot of high expectations, high hopes for the new, healthier and improved offensive line for the Chargers, better quarterback situation, just a better offense that Hampton should be a part of. And I think that coming into year two, he will be the guy in that backfield. I'm very excited for him. But it's very difficult to say, you know, the guy who was drafted higher, the guy who has less competition.

currently none in his backfield, who's going to be very involved in super talented. And I would say the majority of people, I mean, if you look at rankings in general or average draft positions, Gentie goes ahead of Hampton. So it's a take to say Hampton over Gentie, but I want the offense. I love the offense too. I love the offensive line improvements. I think the difficult thing for me mentally is the fact that you could see the Raiders fundamentally building the entire offense around Gentie. You saw games. isolated games from Genti where he was a fantasy force, especially towards the end of the year, on a team that was absolute trash. You didn't get to see the sample size of Hampton or the usage of Hampton that make you say he's guaranteed to be the bell cow of this roster. Everything we think logically, rational coaching, he's the dude and he's going to get the opportunity. But Harbaugh scares me a little bit. Harbaugh is a win at all costs.

win by any means necessary. We're going to play the players that we have the most confidence in. And because I didn't get to see Hampton be a three-down workhorse for more than a blip, maybe one game, right? One game and he still got banged up in that game. I feel like that's what puts a little hesitation in there for me where I know I know Gentie's going to be what this offense is all about. Coaching-wise, I mean, Kubiak has come out and said he wants a split backfield. Coaching-wise, I think it's a wash. I think both guys could go split backfield. Both guys could lean on their star. The thing Gentie has going for him right now is like you can want a 50-50 times share all you dream about. But if you don't have another running back worth anything on your roster and they don't, you can't do it. So for me, I'm A Chan as the keep. I'm Gentie as the trade. I'm Hampton as the cut. Yep. Makes me sad. You're going to do that too? Yeah, it's just the trade value of Gentile. I still have Hampton over him right now.

over Gentie, but people, people want to. If we're really playing keep trade cut, I would trade Gentie because he's going to carry more value than Hampton. So Hampton gets the cut, but I would rather have Hampton over. Ashton Gentie is still the, a fun unknown where it's like, you know, you feel like, hey, well, if Hampton has a great year, he's a top 10 guy. If Ashton Denty puts it together, he is, they took him, what, fourth overall. for, four, three, fifth, I don't remember, wherever, for a reason, because the dude is electric and he can, he can be your offense. But I will, you know, the probability of when do they switch quarterbacks, running backs under rookie quarterbacks, the, you know, there's just, the years of data on that one is I'm going to lean that I want the Justin Herbert offense. Did we talk, did you guys talk Kirk Cousins? Yes. Okay, you did? Okay, I mean, that, that could be, Kirk Cousins could be the dude for a good half a year there too.

Obviously, we're happy with KBX's writing system. I genuinely think for Brock and for Genti that Fernando Mendoza Sr. is great for this team. I think he's going to start the beginning of the season and be very good. And yes, I am calling Kirk Cousins the father. I was putting, I was trying to figure. So he's Fernando Mendoza Senior. Yes. Okay, I'm waiting. Look at those two guys. They do look identical. And they act identical. They are holding hands right now, skipping, skipping, and somehow wearing gold chains. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, there are two peas in a pot. Which are those three running back scores the most touchdowns? Oh, that's a good question. I would take Hampton on the touchdown front. Yeah. I agree with that. Who sees the most total opportunities? That's A-chan, right? Yes. Should be. Okay. Let's turn the page here. Let's go ahead and hit a second group of keep trade cut, and it's, it is a.

perfect group. They all hang out for sure after the way the year ended. This is wide receivers from 2025 whose seasons ended on a sour note. Keep trade cut. Garrett Wilson. I tried to come back. Couldn't. Yep. Ladd McConkey. Woof. That was a letdown. Still a great player. Just not for fantasy the way we would have liked. And then Emeka Abuka, everybody's darling to... Woof as well. I mean, this was, to start the year, you're feeling good. Oh, you, I mean, you were feeling like you had the next Justin Jefferson. Yeah, when you started the year. You said about the second most fancy points all time over his first five games to start a career. Listen to this, guys, because I have to say, from week 11 on, Abuca averaged three receptions in 33 yards, and McConkey averaged two and a half receptions in 26 yards.

That is like from from darlings. I mean, McConkey was a monster the year before. Yeah. Saw his target share decline. And then both of those guys useless. That's not from like week 15 on. That's 11 on. A deletion from your roster. And obviously Gary Wilson with the injury deleted as well. At least with Lad, you were able to bench him. You know what I mean? Like a mecca, Buka at the end of the year, you kept going like, I got to play him. I've got he's too good. You kept plugging him in the lineup and then he'd go out there and get his three catches. To me, the keep is Garrett Wilson. Garrett, yeah, you're happy with that? Mike, Mike is, he's so happy, but he has, he has no microphone. Is my mute stuck on? I don't know. Kick my mute, John. Yeah, I'm back.

We're leaving that in? Ah, sure. All right. Mike was muted for a little while because Josh didn't like what he was saying. Well, you know, the thing is, let me quote him. He said, huzzah! That was what you missed. When I took, when I, when I, when I took Garrett Wilson, uh, with verbally just now as my keep, Mike has odd, but because right now Al Borland is on a cruise, we are, we are with the, we're with the backups. Yeah. You know what I mean? This is the new referees. And so... And we actually don't have a B team. Right, straight to the C team. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are brutal. You think I'm going to let that opportunity go. Did you hit the new button? Is that what happened? I had, but I had let go. You want to do a test? Microphone. I think he's terrified over there. One, two, one, oh, now it doesn't mute at all. We're back in. Now it doesn't mute at all. Now you know. I know it's not their fault. I'll leave by snorts. Sometimes, look, just bar is, are we recording?

Josh, are we recording? Oh, that's a great bar. Okay. His microphone is not working. He said yes into a microphone. We are falling apart. We're at the D team. We are, you guys are now the D team. He is sweating. Oh, yeah. Well, I can see it. He will knock his teeth out. Oh, out of here. Garrett Wilson, Ladd-McConkie, Abuka. I can tell you right now, it is, it is Garrett Wilson has the keep for me as well with a, with a, with a. a glance at a buca you can't have i thought about this on the drive in this morning and and this is all roster construction and philosophical differences between people but i don't believe you can build a team where you know everything that you have i just don't think you can do that i don't think that the best idea if you're saying fantasy football roster construction fantasy football roster construction you just you can't draft all players you know what you have you have to have some