Fantasy Football - Keep/Trade/Cut + Shoot for the Moon! - Podcast for 4/9

risk that it can go either direction. Like Abuca represents tremendous upside and also you know that it can go sour. To me, I feel like we do know what we have in Ladd-McConkie. I do not see this guy. I don't think it's going to change for Ladd-McConkey. He is not going to be your full offense. If anything, they're going to do more and more and more to take less, to take more off of him. To spread the ball around. Yeah, I mean, the first year, he was all that there was. Yep. You now drafted Hampton. You have more past catches. Gadsden.

And he's just not prototypical. He's not the kind of guy that's going to carry the offense. He's not, but there's 122 targets of Keenan Allen that will not likely be there. It's amazing that we always have Keenan Allen targets to talk about leaving, no matter when. Yeah, it's always. Because we think he's gone until about 10 minutes before kickoff and he'll sign a contract and be right back. No disrespect to McConkey. He's going to settle in the next five years as the wide receiver 21 to 29. That's what he's going to settle in as, in my opinion. If he might take over a game here and there, I don't think he's going to, the offense is not being built around him. It can be built around Garrett Wilson, no question, it will be. And you have a quarterback now who, as much as I hate him, he's the best quarterback they've had in a long time. So Gino Smith, I'm going to take Garrett Wilson. I'm going to hope for the best for a mecca, and I'm going to cut Ladd-McConkie. Yeah, I completely agree. And to speak to your roster construction point where you can't just take known.

assets yesterday on yesterday's Dynasty podcast. We were talking about when you're trying to trade low for people, you can't, when you think you're trading low for someone who had a down year, but the path towards success is just clear and obvious, like, oh, okay, well, this guy was injured, his quarterback's upgrade or whatever. You're not going to really get to trade low. When you want to trade low for someone, it's because I don't know that it gets better, but you've got to call your shot. And that's when you're in the draft, there's going to be guys once you're after the first three rounds.

There's going to be guys in each round that has a wider range of outcomes. You have to take some of those players. For Tampa specifically, and there are a handful of other situations like this, when Mike Evans departs, you immediately go, hey, it's going to be better for Abuka. You also need to look at the other past catching options that they have and say, hey, what do they have in Taz Johnson? What are they having, Jeline, those guys? How can they get better? But Abuka's got an opportunity. We know that Mike Evans can't sign a contract with them and show back up. Right. You lost Keenan Allen and you lost Mike Evans, but Mike Evans is gone. So Ibuka has the opportunity to show that the beginning of the year was not a fluke. And the beginning of the year was not, I mean, it might have been fluky. Like touchdowns were really, really high, but they weren't fluky. Prior to the season Baker was talking up how good this kid was. There's a reason prior to that, they drafted him in the first round. Prior to that, he was great at Ohio State.

He had a bad stretch run down the second half of last year. He's a quality player. I think he will almost for sure be the wide receiver. One, Chris Godwin could be. But Emeka Abuka, I think, is their best. There's only one of these guys that won't be three for 33 ever. Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson. Yeah, I agree with both of you guys. I would disagree of, I think there is a stronger path forward for McConkey. with their offensive line back to health, and with Mike McDaniel in there, we don't, like, how will the targets really shake out for that squad? I think it might get flipped on its head. Yeah, I mean, I know you were, we've always, I think, as a group, really believed in Ladd-McConkie as a talent. Last year, I was...

more out on him. And I think it's good for you to speak positive of him. I just want people to know you are the lowest on him. That's fine. But not out loud. Just like secret ranking. Not allowed. But it gives you right now it's huge. It's lad. It's Tray Harris. That's the starting three. Gadsden. Well, yeah, I'm talking about the wide receiver position. Just so between those three guys, if they don't do anything else. I think there's a chance that Ladd has the most targets in the room. I feel like fantasy value, not play style necessarily, but fantasy value over the course of the career, Ladd McConkey is Zay Flowers. He can have big games. He can, Zay. Love that. Surprisingly was a top 10 wide receiver this last year. Ladd was a top 12 wide receiver's rookie year. But more than likely is going to be just a helpful asset, not someone that you're winning a championship with because of.

That's about how I feel. That's a good comp. Let's talk about some tight ends. If you want to talk tight ends. Tight ends with upside. Oh. Harold's with backside. That's why they call them tight ends. Because of the yams. Because of their yams. Sam Laporta, Tucker, Kraft, Harold Fanon. I know my cut. It's Leporta? Yeah. Oh, man. 15 red zone touchdowns over the last three seasons. We're already here with Sam Leporta? He was the dynasty tight end one like two years ago. Hunt off the bridge. Oh my God. My things to remember episode this off season was that middling tight ends absolutely don't matter. Whether you are the tight end two or the Titan 12 last year. You're saying LaBoard is already middling? 100% he's middling. Oh. At this point, he's not going to be the Titan one ever again. He is not a target dominant. When I say middling, I basically on that episode was saying,

that there is, there's really two guys. Now that George Kittle is coming off an ACL, you've got Bowers and McBride. Oh, sorry, Achilles. Even worse. Bowers and McBride, and if not, then just punt the whole position forever. Now, the offseason made moves that made it interesting. You have to get someone that can just be like the tight end one. Otherwise, they're irrelevant. And you had a showing from Tucker Kraft that was worthy of that. And Harold Fanon is... Sam LaPorta was the tight-in one. He was the tight-in one, but that doesn't mean at this stage of the team that he's on. I laughed because I thought I was going to go look and see a three or a two. He actually was the number one. He pulled it off. Yeah. But it was with like 11 points in the game. It was a real low-scoring. He's actually been almost the same point for game production. He's not been the same as year one. But, you know, he's, we all agree that he is a, he's a trustworthy, competent.

contributor to the offense but not is not going to be Travis Kelsey's chief's days with Sam Laporta. Yeah. Tucker Kraft, like this is what I, this is my point that I was bringing up with the, okay, Abuka's got an opportunity, but McMillan and Tess Johnson, these other guys pay attention to him. In Green Bay, everyone wants to say, oh, now Matthew Golden can do something finally because Dobbs is gone, right? The only thing standing in Matthew Golden's way was Romeo Dobbs. And then instead, there's Tucker Kraft. There's Christian Watson. These are players that might be the bigger beneficiaries because they're proven. Jayden Reed. What's that? Jaden Reed. Yeah, Jaden Reed. Tucker Kraft was on fire last year. Does he come back with the same?

ferocity because it wasn't isolated amount of games it was some boom games yeah it's really tough uh you could easily make the argument tucker craft over harold fanon if it wasn't for the acl but coming off of the acl i know he's running in straight lines jogging in straight lines i saw the other day uh his recovery i'm guessing is ahead of schedule uh imagine not be so to me if i'm gonna take a shot in any early rounds middle rounds on a tight end there are There's only three guys I would take a middle round shot on, and it would be last year's rookies, depending on what middle round is to you. But Harold Fanon, Colson Loveland, Tyler Warren, you can see the path for them becoming absolute dominators. And Tucker Craft's ACL gets in the way of that for me. So I would keep Harold Fanon. Trade Tucker Craft. Trade Tucker Craft. Trade Tucker Craft. And cut San LaPorte, who you just, you really despise. I despise middle round tight ends.

And he is a middle round. He is the definition of a middle round type. If you could draft Harold Fanon in the sixth round or Tucker Kraft in the ninth round, which one would you take? Tucker Kraft. Yeah, if it looks like he's healthy, I would take Tucker Kraft. Like if he's on track for week one. Would you take Harold Fanon in the sixth round or Sam Laporte in the 11th round? Sixth round for Fanon? Probably fanning. There were rumors today about what, Cleveland and Kenyon Sadie? Yes. That they did a top 30 visit. That would be such a punch to the face. Yeah, I mean, it would be terrible for both players. Yeah. However, since I was telling you. You have so many problems, Cleveland. Why? Why do this? You already hit on the, you hit on your tight end. Yeah. I still hesitate a little bit more with Sadiq. So if you went to Cleveland, I'd be like, okay, that's, that's fine. But for my fan and I love it. It makes no sense where.

I mean, they would have to, I don't know, move their pick. I don't know. So we're all in agreement on this order or no? Are you considering keeping Tucker Kraft? I am. You look like a guy considering that. I'm willing to take on more risk. Tucker Kraft in, what do we have? Seven and a half games scored 101 fantasy points. Harold Fanon played. I guess he got injured, so we'll put him at 15 games. And 15 games, he was 150 points. I mean, I... With a Nogoku in the way. The first seven weeks... Not at the end, though. For Tucker Kraft, he had the seventh most points of any tight end over the last decade. So that, like, he was absolutely dumb. The issue is he's not going to come back week one and be that same guy off the ACL. How are his yams?

His yams are they're toasty. They're fine. They're not Fanon's. Fanon's got that fanny. You're saying Fanon's yams. Harold Fanny Jr. Harold yams yammy. Goodness gracious. It's so weird because it feels like Tucker Craft had this big part. Like he had such a big story. The breakout was Kool-Aid man and came through the brick wall and you were like, holy crap. I have Tucker Kraft for, I got him for free. Seven for 143 and two touchdowns. And then he gets his ACL torn the next week. Yeah, just seven weeks of glory. All right, we'll take a break. And we'll do a few more. I really want to know which of those tight ends Papa Josh would have kept. You know what I mean? Like which one would you have kept? Can he talk?

Yeah, I can talk. Dang it. It was a setup. I don't care what you think about those guys. He's so happy. I take it all back. I take it all back. Also, can you upgrade him? Yeah, you're back to the C team. I mean, if he can talk and Mike can talk at the same time. Yeah, then he's back to the C team. Is my mute? Yeah, okay. All right. This is B team stuff. Oh, man. I'm a mid show fix. A mid show B team. Pretty impressive. Yeah, I got you, Josh. Yeah. C plus. I'll go C plus. C plus. You two would love him to flunk him. Oh, for sure. You do anything else. I'm moving straight to an F-minus. Detention. The problem with that, Jay, you're insinuating that there's like a B-minus team. Yeah, you open up a whole. You can't do that. That's fine. I am fine bringing pluses and minuses into this. I am fine with what I said. This show is about nuance. You know?

Yeah, it's fan fanies. Um, late round quarterback keep trade cut. Dak Herbert, Dart, which these, these, this is best ball ADP right now, but deck deck is the QB eight. The people finally woke up. It just took. Oh, hey, Dak who when he plays the whole season is always awesome. So let me. We're finally allowing that to be the truth. Let me make a comp for Dak and see if you guys disagree with me. There was a period of Ben Rathsberger's career. Oh, yeah. Where he was perennially never drafted. And you just kind of knew in the right games, even for the right stretches, he could just, like Big Ben, I hate to see him across on my opponent's team, even though Big Ben was like, what, quarterback 10 every year. I hated to see it because you knew he could just throw six touchdowns that game. He definitely could. There was a couple years in there where they were.

throwing a ton, but it's just, but DAC has literally been great. If he plays the whole year, he's never not been a quarterback one in his entire career. Which one of these three is coolest? Jackson Dart. He's pretty drippy. Jackson Dart. Herbert's the nerd. Oh, for sure. He's, he's pretty cool too. Isn't he dating like Alison Breyer or something like that? No. No, that's, that's the artist. Someone. Who am I thinking of? Madison beer. Madison beer. I got it close. How does one get a last name of beer? You just got to have a heritage of drinking. It's like, oh, oh, grandpa beer. Like that, excuse me, that's Dr. Beer. Um, Mr. Beer. How do you come over here? How do you get taken serious when your last name is beer? I don't know, man. All right.

Jackson Dart? Do they have to wait until they're 21 to like inherit that name? Can they be a little kid and be like beer beer before then? Yeah, exactly. It's me. Madison root beer. Sperella. We are dumb. Dak, Herbert, Dart. I feel like a similar conversation can we had here about do you know what you have? Jackson Dart is the most enigmatic high upside. We don't know what we don't know situation. Herbert has some of that mixed in. with Mike McDaniel's arrival and the potential for the offense. And then Dak, it was really, really good. I mean, George plus CD equals Dak's going to be good. He's more of an injury risk than the other, well, maybe not than the other two guys. Yeah, well, then her. And dart. Dart's the biggest injury risk. He's got name fatigue then. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because there are different play styles here. I'm always going to prefer prefer the, yeah.

What? It didn't even sound funny. Did it sound funny to you? Yes, but it reminded me of a stupid thing we do when we play pickleball. Whenever it's four to four. Oh, it's fur, it's fur, fur, fur, fur to fur. I said prefer. Okay. It brought me right back to when we're serving. Fair, fur to fur. Kind of a Swedish chef. Yeah, exactly. So anyways, now the Foot Clan knows how to properly score. I'm criticizing Josh. This is a plus work over here. I'm sorry. This is why they listen. I'm sorry. Anyways, I prefer the mobile rushing quarterback. So even though you know I have always been a Dachstan and I will never stop loving Justin Herbert, I would prefer to have Jackson Dart. The option of one of these guys finishing as the quarterback won, a real true like season winning performance.

I need you to rush for 700 yards. I mean, if I tell you that neighbors is not himself until week 10. Oh, well, then Jackson Dart will be the wrong pick. Jackson Dart. But what if I told you at pick number five, they drafted Cornell Tate. But what if I told you, Andy, that when you are constructing a fantasy football roster, you sometimes need guys you don't know how they could finish. I just feel like you're going to have to pay. You're going to have to pay for that mystery with Dart. He's the cheapest of these three currently. Yeah. On Underdog right now, they are QB 8, 9, and 11, but in terms of ADP, it's DAC is at 79 and Dart is at 86. So they all go right next to each other. I'll tell you a secret. When his boy, Camp Scataboo is healthy and back at camp, and when Malik neighbors is running rounds, they will not go in this order. I completely agree. Possible.

It's humble. George is absolutely tumble. You want to know why DAC is this high right now, genuinely? It's because it's this time of year and we're getting the paid drafts. It's smarter drafters. And they know what DAC is. When the casuals all come back, Dak has total name fatigue and he's the guy who can't win playoff games. And then I don't care. Yeah, I might take Dak when he's the last of the three of them. Jack, it's, I mean, he did. He had a, he struggled to end the year. if you remember. He had a great run, and then if you needed him in the last week 15, 16, those were tougher. But had a nice week 17 against Washington, but not really crazy. We need to know what's going on with George because he is, like, they franchise tagged him. I think he's happy to come back and play. He's not signed. No, he isn't? Oh, no. Okay. Oh, no. Pitts is the one who signed. Yeah, George is going to.

take this thing to the limit oh he's like i don't have to practice yeah and he is george pickens george yeah there's george pickens was a was waiting to not george's beer we're talking about uh but he had george has his own stuff that i mean the pittsburgh got rid of him for a reason and it's what i i honestly have i have no read i don't know what the cowboys are going to do here i don't know will we get a classic jerry jones We wait until training camp. George Pickens still hasn't shown up. Then they finally give him the contract and he's not in shape to play football. Do they trade him? I think that that is still a possibility that could happen. And that's a huge range of outcomes for just George Pickens, the player. If George is not there, then I still like Dak, but he, but Dak would not be my choice if I knew it was just Citi Lamb. So.

And my answer is probably Dart no matter what. But if I know that George is there ready to go, I don't mind taking the safety of, of Dak Prescott and getting out of the Jackson Dart headbutting everybody. Remember when Herbert was the quarterback two to start the year with a monster 318 and three game and everybody jumped on. Oh, yeah. Nobody would trade him if they had him. And then you remember he lost all of his offensive linemen. Yeah. But that's the story. The truth is. even though i love herbert i would i would rather have dack than herbert so it would go dart dack herbert all right yeah yeah i'm kind of like waiting to press the accelerator on jackson dart right now feel i want to but there are a lot i mean there's new offense injured weapons draft picks to be had a lot going on there last one here when when was the but it's like

Neighbors got hurt in week four. Jackson Dart started, week four was his first start. Oh, yeah, you got hurt on his sideline throw. All the great things that Jackson Dart did last year were without a number one wide receiver. Or turning, you could say, oh, he turned Wondale Robinson into number one. Yeah, I mean, Dart was, Dart was okay. He wasn't great. 17 a game. It was pretty good. Yeah, I mean, for a rookie without weapons, and you know he's going to run. He had the one devastating game. Seven for 13 for 33 yards? Yeah, I remember that. In the semi-championship round, he had a weak losing performance. Yeah, you had the zero points did it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But right before that was 22 and then championship week was 25. Those were playoffs. That's a season losing performance. Yeah, okay. Thank you.

Isn't that Scatz number? Isn't he four? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he is. Furtty Fur. Stupid. Last one, Malik Neighbors, Tram McBride, Kenneth Walker. Oh, I recuse myself. These are mid-second round picks. Neighbors, Tramigbride, Kenneth Walker, wide receiver, tight-in, running back. You know, it's hard when you just play key trade cut. You're not considering anything other than these names. to not want the positional advantage that Tray McBride's going to represent with Jacoby Brissette and what he was able to do last year. Neighbors, injury unknown, Ken Walker. The sky's the limit. It's also, you know, I'm keeping Tray McBride is my answer. I'm going to trade. It's the safe pick. Yeah, he's completely 100% safe. Tray McBride, nothing can go wrong from McBride. It could go wrong as he doesn't get the...

amount of receptions. He'll be fine. Like he'll still be, he'll be a top three guy, but... Yeah, I mean, he will be 100%... Will he make a difference? Don't wait, it goes wrong as he's injured. I mean, he had 111 receptions two years ago. He had 126 last year. I don't even want 26. If you give me 111 and you don't... If you give him 100... And you don't just score two times like he did two years ago. That's fair. He will be fine. McBride is the easy keep for me. I am 100% right there with you. Like I said, it's usually been a Brock Bowers, Trey McBride, and then check out at the position. I feel like I'm trading Ken Walker's hype, and then I'm just going to cut the injured dude. That feels bad. I am very curious where these two guys, both neighbors and Walker, not compared to each other, but independently, I'm so curious where they're going to be drafted at the draft. I think I would prefer to take Walker because I expect neighbors to get off to a slightly slower start.

due to coming off of the ACL injury. But yeah, I mean, maybe if the news is good and Neighbors is back on the field, he's going to have more hype than Walker and be, you know, a back of the first round pick, which is so scary to do off the NACL. Do you not see a world where Ken Walker is just like the running back 18 this year? Eight? Not 18. I would be surprised. Okay. Yeah, not 18. Is this old? Old issues I got with this dude. It could be. Yeah, I mean, let's just get, you know, when you're, I'll get on the couch, let's deal with this. What is this? His fifth year? Is that right? I think so. Four years on a rookie contract. Yeah, it wasn't a first round. Yep, it'll be year five. When, when you're going into year five and you have been basically disappointed by a player every single year, including this year where he was the Super Bowl champion, but for fantasy, it was a disappointing year where he finally was stayed healthy. I don't blame you for being like,

Not this time. Not this time, Ken. Isn't it like there's something ironic about a player that you've always had expectations for who's always been deserving of the production and who for four consecutive years has never given it to you to the degree that like it you're just putting never matched hope. Yeah. So then you've got a bunch of new hope on another team. But in the back of my mind, I'm going, well, like, what shoe drops to make this not work? Right. You're saying. You have no idea what it's going to be, but it will happen. Something. Yeah. I'm going to bet on the money. And that contract, if you look at when a running back gets a certain level of contract in the offseason, they tend to perform well. And the fact that he's on Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid team, he doesn't have a lot of competition. Obviously, he can get injured. We know that for sure. For sure. Oh, gosh. All running backs can. I would say the.

So if you go, just, you know, what we're playing this game, you keep Kenneth Walker. If Kenneth Walker has a great week one, everyone believes. Like the way that fantasy football works with all of this, it's going to be months and months of discussing in talking about Kenneth Walker. Yeah. If Walker goes out week one, has 80 on the ground, has a couple of catches and a score, everyone will push every chip in. And then he will be, are you saying trade him? well you could i'm saying you could but like you could you're saying and he could because he's trying to get out i can't trade i can't trade walker ever it is it is all of walker's storyline and then it is all of chiefs running back potential storylines and both have never matched up the the other than kareem hunt who well it's definitely matched up it just hasn't for a while well after kareem hunt

we've been begging for it. Yes. That's all I'm saying. Like, Kareem Hunt started the storyline for it. Like Kreme Hunt was the first of the... I would say Jamal Charles started it. Yeah. Okay. Shady. Well, ever since Cream Hunt departed, we've been waiting for the next cream hunt. Correct. And it is... That is... That is true. And then, you know, Isaiah Pacheco was mixed in there. But we also had other guys that were added to the roster. We had the... I think Darwin Thompson's. We had the Rashad Smith. Damian Williams had a flash. I think the truth is, if you look at the actual talent that they have had since Cream Hunt, it hasn't been good. Like Isaiah Pacheco, we had high hopes for it. He's a seventh round pick that was like, Damien Williams, we've had flashes, but Clyde Edwards, Clyde Edwards Allaire, they thought that they were drafting that dude, but turns out he's not that good. He's just really not that good. It wasn't the team letting him down. It was him just not being that good.

If someone is actually talented and above average top 10 type of talent, they have a strong line. I think they will get a lot out of the position. I'm going to work on this. Yeah. I'm going to do my best. It's going to take some time. And the enemy is back. I think that really matters. Okay. Is it more important that he's back or that Nagy's gone? Ooh. Edition by subtraction? It's more important that Andy Reid's still there. I think there, I think it's a. It's perfectly balanced. It's the knife. Yes. Yeah. It's the Thanos knife. Everything in balance. Next week we're going to get into our top 15 running backs and our top 15 wide receivers on the show. So that'll be a fun one.