Fantasy Football - Week 8 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, What Do They Know? - Podcast for 10/24

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Yeah, I mean, when it's time to sub in and out of the game. Oh, yeah. He's even doing that fast. He's hustling. The Buccaneers are four and a half point road favorites against the Saints. Is that surprise you at all? The overrunner is 46.5. Well, I guess I mean that they're not heavier favorites. Oh, okay. Sure. That is 100% what I meant. I mean, you're five and two. Oh, man. It's a divisional game where you are playing one of the worst teams in football. But four and a half. Four and a half road favorites is pretty strong. Yeah, divisional. And you're missing Mike Evans. You're missing Bucky Irving. You know, you're banged up. Yeah, so no Bucky, no Godwin, no Evans is going to be a Bucca and a lot of a Bucca. And now another week removed from the injury. Hopefully he didn't reagravate. We haven't heard anything that he did. And he got 12 targets last week. And then I think Tess Johnson comes into play as a very interesting start this week.

The running game has not been what it was with Bucky Irving or anything close to it, right? I mean, Rashad White's getting the work. Sean Tucker worked in here and there. But is this a get right game for Baker? I mean, it feels like it should be. Yeah, I mean, it could be. It's scary without the weapons, but Baker has been good. He's good against the Saints. And Kate Aughton will get it done. I think that's a good outlet for him. The matchup is not. too difficult for him so yeah i think this could be get right for baker yeah they they haven't the funny thing is is like evans came back but they haven't had evans and they really haven't had godwin so like it's been the same situation that baker's been cooking in for the majority of the year it's just um the new newfound tez johnson does he get more work more snaps more opportunities where we can isolate you know it's not cameron johnson tez johnson sterling shepherd kdaught and maybe you get one more guy getting more work i don't know

Yeah. Kate Otton, you're okay with though, right? Yes, Mr. Necessary right now. He's just going to be that outlet. Rashad White against the 22nd ranked rushing defense. Yep. But schedule adjusted, the Saints are better against the run than we might think they are and fancy points given up. Yeah, it's just the, I mean, he is who he is. It's disgusting. It didn't work last week, but he will get all the work. What is all this talk about Sean Tucker? Tampa Bay. Yeah. Wanted to get him more involved. We got, we got three starters. You got your, no, you don't. He's not getting on the field. No. Let him play. No, he doesn't play. He had two opportunities last week. If he's not going to play when Bucky Irving is out, that's what I mean, he's not going to play ever. Unless this game's getting salted away. Now, you know, when you look at the Buccaneers defense.

And you look at it in schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed, they have been pretty bad. And maybe, you know, that's why that line's only four and a half when you're a five and two team. They're 22nd against quarterbacks, 26 against wide outs. Olavis might start of the week because they've been softer against wide receivers giving up 29.2 fantasy points a game. Yeah. They got one main guy. It's Crystal Lave. And Juan Johnson is Mike's start of the week. This is a, this is a no, no, no. Yeah. Remember he changed yesterday to Hutton? Oh, yeah. It's odd. Yeah, thank you. Juan Johnson was hurt. Someone listens to me. John Johnson was in a red jersey and we're not talking about him anymore. Yeah. Fantastic. Well, then good. More targets for Chris Oliva. And Alvin Camara, right? I mean, Alvin Camara should get more targets in this game if Juan's limited. Camara is just, hey, some hell there messing with you. Camara feels scary. Give me the temperature check on Camara. Right now he is the running back 29 on the season. I would say that that falls in the.

Highly disappointing category for a guy that finished his RB 12 and 14 the past two years. Yeah, for sure. The sad thing is with Taysam Hill back, you're going to have a couple touchdowns vultured. You know, Alvin Camara doesn't have massive touchdown upside because the Saints and Spencer Rattler don't project to score a ton of points. So when they get down there, if you have like four touchdowns vultured over the course of the season, that's probably half of what he might have hoped for. Saints have one more implied point total or implied, yeah, total this week than the 49ers. What do they know? Is the plane getting rerouted somewhere else? Seriously. What is happening? I just, it's wild. Dallas, 3, 3 and 1 taken on the 5 and 2 Denver Broncos who pulled a victory out of the jaws of defeat last week in an amazing fashion.

where if you logged out at the end of the third thinking you didn't have any fantasy production from Bonnix and the Broncos were doomed, you woke up to a surprise. Denver minus three and a half with a beautiful 50.5 over under. Here we go. Yeah. Here we go. Yes. It is the fourth highest. Wait a second. Wow. The Dallas games, man. They're juicy. Their games average 61.1 points per game. When you are in a Dallas football matchup, there's an average of 61.1 points, which 50 and a half seems mighty low compared to the average this year. Now, Denver Broncos represent a much better defense than what Dallas has been playing lately. So the question is, can this offense that has been on fire for Dallas? Can they keep doing that against Denver in Denver? And so, because we know that the Cowboys defense can.

do what they're supposed to do, which is let the other team score at will. That's the fourth highest total of any team since Y2K. That's what Borg put in here because he, I don't know, he wanted us to explain what Y2K is to Falcon. It was the year 2000, just so you know. I think he was alive then. Were you a computer crisis? I was around. That did not. How old were you? Happened. Four. Baby Jake was not. I think he's being born. Yeah. Yeah, we're old. All right, Dallas is one, or Denver's won four straight games. You're playing Bonix this week, Mike. Oh, is that your starter? Yeah, I think so. You play, you play starts of the week, team of the week. Denver with Bonix, Dobbins, Sutton, yep. You can shoot your shot on a Mims or a Franklin. You can play R.J. Harvey with hope that something happens. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, are you playing Taj Spears or RJ Harvey? If that was the question, it would be Harvey. It's a question for lots of people. Yeah, I would like Harvey over Taj Spears. I think the Monong guy or RJ Harvey. Harvey. Okay. So he's startable in some situations. Yeah. People are, people are fighting for running backs. You know, there are players like Kareem Hunt that were on rosters that you're out and he's gone. Yeah, that was the, that was the name I would play Woody. I'd play Harvey. Here's a snake in my boot. I think you have, I think processes you have to go Woody their favor. You don't have to. Man. Yeah, I'm going to go Woody there. Okay. Interesting. Woody Marks probably should have been in the group of, you know, Tutin and Caleb and Travion and some of these guys, Harvey was one of them where it's like some of these second half rookies have opportunities.

Chubb hit the waiver wire, didn't get picked up today in our league of record. It's kind of over for Nick Chub, I think. Yes. Yeah. So we know we like the Broncos and we like the Cowboys. We like Citi. We like George. We like Jake and we like Dak and we like Javante. Are they the easiest team to just play everybody every week. And it stinks because, you know, like for wide receivers, this is one of the most difficult matchups possible. So this is like a litmus test. We're going to find out if the Cowboys, because they've got a bad strength of schedule the rest of the year. They're actually one of the most difficult matches for quarterbacks and for wide receivers. I don't know that that matters. I think they might just be good enough that they will overcome good defenses, but we're going to find out. What kind of test was that, Jay? Yeah, what kind was that? I hate that word because. Okay. Yeah, what kind of a test was it, though? It was a litmus. Yeah.

oh okay okay yeah it was yeah which the word is litmus yeah it's like a lit christmas yeah oh nice is that gonna help i don't know but it is an m right yes it is okay because oftentimes i think it's litness i will say i feel like i've heard you say that a few times yes and then when i hear you i'm like you do i have it wrong but just I just did a little check. I have said the word litmus at least 200 times in my life. At least. And I've said the word litmus at least 10 times on this show. This is a good conversation because it let me pull up the points for game ranks for all of Dallas. Okay. We're talking about litmus. Dak is third. Javante is fifth. Pickens is fourth. Ferguson is number one and that doesn't count Cid lame. Yeah.

He's still working on it. So that's a fun game. Hopefully. Hopefully. I mean, I will be in shambles if it turns out that a really good defense, which the Broncos have at home, if they can really slow down, hinder, you know, shut down the Cowboys, I will be a mess because my entire life rests on the Dax City stack. Your whole life, huh? That's my. And you were saying they have a really rough schedule rest of the way. Correct. So your life is going to be weekly in the balance. I think it's going to be proven this week. If they go in there and put up 28 points in Denver, I will be fearless. Yeah. Okay. Tennessee is one in six. They take on the six and one Indianapolis Colts. Colts are 14.5 point favorites. Okay. The over under is 47.5. Take it easy.

I took them to cover. If you like take a creative writing class or you have an imagination or you've ever wished you could write a book or a short story or any of those things. Little novella. Yeah. If you're one of those people, even you can't come up with the creative path for the Tennessee Titans to win this ball game. Hmm. There's not a path. I'm trying, I'm thinking through it. Anthony Richardson is on IR. Damn. Right. If they were to enlist the help of some sort of. Dragon. Okay. Maybe. They would close the gap. Gambling scheme? Maybe that's going around. Oh, too soon. Too soon, Chauncey. Slow down. Oh, man, the NBA. Who would have thought that like just legalizing gambling would have any implications on competitive sports? I was going to earlier when we were talking about Carson Wins. Pete Rose getting to the Hall of Fame again. I was going to make a joke about Wins.

Pulling a Johnson. It was just like... Oh, but you held off. I did. Now it's... Yeah, well, now I get to make that joke. Yeah. Because honestly, watching Carson Wentz, it's kind of hard to explain what was happening. Looked on purpose. Looks bad on purpose. Yeah. Sometimes you just got to let the chips fall. Back to the... The Colts heavy favorites over under 47 and a half, 31 point implied point total. Please play. Please play, you know, Jonathan Taylor. Please play Michael Pittman. Yeah. Please play Tyler Warren. And then... Daniel Jones is probably in your lineup this week. I love this. And you can shoot your shot at the wide receivers, and I would shoot it with Alec Pierce. He's been really, really good, even with downs active earlier in the year. I love this chart we have comparing the Colts and the Tennessee Titans offense. Points per game. Colts. That's tweetworthy, by the way. First, the Titans, 32nd.

Point differential. Colts first. Titans 32nd. Yards per play. First, 30 second. First downs per game. First, 32nd. Red zone drives per game. First, 32nd. This is the best versus the worst. That's what we're getting, which actually scares me for wide receivers in this game. You know, we, not that the, yeah, because you don't need to keep up. Yeah, that's my only fear. If you score your first couple times on the ground. If Jonathan Taylor starts the game with two rushing touchdowns, he's going to end the game with eight. Um, yeah, this is. With eight. So this is, listen to where we're at with Cam Ward. And, um, please. Let me just tell you as a, as a man getting into trading cards, demand on the Cam Ward cards has, uh, bottomed out. Um, four passing touchdowns through seven games, fewest total fantasy points through the first seven career starts of any quarterback drafted in the last, in the first round over the last 20 years. And, um,

You know, you can lay some of that at the feet of bad weapons or coaching or offensive line or blah, blah, blah. And then you lay the rest at his feet. I mean, it's, it's. He has looked bad. He's looked really, really, really bad at the game. Every week of his career so far. He's young. He's early. He, I thought he looked better last week. He did look a little bit better last week. But you can look better and still be bad where he started. I just want to give him the credit. Tell me the Titans are playing. Okay. I just did.

No, I mean, Pollard. The joke. Yeah, Pollard is someone that you, in a bipoclips, you probably start Pollard. I would start them over Woody Marks. Okay. Yeah. And by the way, the final results of this poll, Mike, 64.8% of people prefer DK Metcalf rest of the season. 35% was a flower, not to globalize that to one week and one decision this week, obviously. But, yeah, that's about how I, I mean, you've had them both. I mean, you've got them both on your roster. You're going to be making that decision week in and week out. Very different types of players. Very, very different archetypes. All right, we are going to take another break. I'm seeing somebody not over there. They want a break to go to the bathroom or something. Foot Clan, we want you to meet Claude, the AI designed to be your thinking partner, Poppin, Josh.

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Try the new lineup of high protein beverages at Starbucks or add protein to your favorite drink. All right, we're back, Green Bay, 4-1-1 taken on the 4-2 Pittsburgh Steelers, Vegas-Line Green Bay on the road minus 3. The over-under is 45 and a half. And here we go, Aaron Rogers' revenge game. At home, great record. Packers traveling. We're looking at Rogers trying to. join the exclusive group of quarterbacks who have beaten all 32 teams if he wins this. Oh, is that where we are? Which is Farr, Manning, Breeze, and Brady. So there are three quarterbacks sitting at 31 other than him. Patrick Mahomes hasn't beaten the Chiefs. Oh, interesting. Matthew Stafford somehow. To give you to be on this list, you have to go to a different team. Yeah, Stafford has missed the Steelers, believe it or not. And then Russell Wilson has not beaten the Seahawks, and nor will he ever.

He will stay at 31. The Pittsburgh defense, not what it used to be. I like Jordan Love this week, so much so that he's my start of the week. They'll get Christian Watson back, most likely, not guaranteed at this point. Probably part-time this week. Yeah, I mean, the Steelers defense, 27th against quarterbacks, 28th against wideouts, 30th against tight ends. Tucker Kraft, please play him as well. Also a start of the week. I can't help but think about. your drugs yesterday with jordan love you're concerned that the drugs are everything i said yesterday was tainted was tainted by the by the by the drugs yes um i'm i'm scared of jordan love it's possible i don't really you know he you and i have just do we just don't agree on jordan love yeah and he's jordan like for you or jordan

unlike or something. Yeah, Jordan like is fine. He's Jordan and I don't think we disagree on how he's playing. I think Jordan Love is a very good player. He's he's leading them to good victories, but fantasy wise, he is, you know, he's not one of those guys that's you expect to put up a ton of yardage on the ground and he hasn't been throwing touchdowns. So this is Josh Jacobs red zone offense and so I just worry. more that, I mean, we haven't seen him much, right? The consistency score for Jordan Love is really bad. He doesn't help you very much. And so sometimes he does. This might be that game. The Steelers defense looked awful last week on the course of the season. They haven't been very good. But they are at home in an important revenge game kind of for Aaron Rogers. The, Mike's bench of the week, D.K. McCaff is on the other side.

I was going to say Jared Goff and Jordan Love are like very similar to me this year of really one explosive game for each of them. You know that always capable of it. Any week it could have happened. Good offenses. And it's just in every time it lines up. I mean, we're only, you know, what seven weeks in, but this year when it's lined up for a huge game, it's just it hasn't really come through. You know, it would help is if Matthew Golden had a touchdown. Like we got Travis Hunter his first touchdown last week. Can we do this? Can we get this done? That would be very helpful. When you target Golden, he is great so far. Now, they're just not doing it much, which you can lay that. I mean, targets are earned, right? It's an earned stat. You've got to get separation. I'd like to see them make him more of a focal point of certain plays. But right now the focal point is Josh Jacobs, also Josh Jacobs, and then Jacobs, and then you move to the wide receivers. Yeah.

which if you're taking a shot at a white out this week, Mike, Dobbs, Golden. It's always Romeo Dobbs for me. You got, the last three weeks has been six receptions, five, six. He's not, the three touchdown game against Dallas. That's a super outlier for him. If you need 15 points, you play Golden or you play Dobbs? It's still Dobbs for me. Yeah, no, I mean, he had the three touchdown game. You just brought it up. It's just Matthew Golden. Jaylorne is a lock, right? TBD is he good. Jalen Warren's a lock. Aaron Rogers or Daniel Jones this week? Daniel Jones. Okay. Well, you just talked about, I was curious, because you talked about like if Jonathan Taylor scores a couple times, they could take the, and then the defense scores a couple times. The difference for Daniel Jones is he could end up having rushing touchdowns at the end of the game. Like if, if, you know, he's vultured, I think, three touchdowns from Jonathan Taylor that have already made me angry, even though Jonathan Taylor leads the.

league and touchdowns. It's still never enough. Yeah, not for you. But I do think that that can happen to where he is okay if they're up. What if like DAC and CD are just pretty good and then Jonathan Taylor only scores like twice? Are you having the worst week of your life? Yeah. Aaron Rogers, by the way, big week last week, but he's been much worse than Daniel Jones. Jones is the quarterback six on the year. Jaylon Warren is a lock for your lineup. Yeah, the matchup is. It's a tough one. It's not good, but. Jalen Warren, dog. Monday night football, the Washington commanders at 3 and 4 travel to take on the Kansas City Chiefs who have an implied point total of this week of 30 points. Wow. Who are 12.5 point favorites. If you want to know whether a quarterback or two wide receivers coming back moves the line at all, not the wide receivers. The chiefs are 12.5 point favorites. The overrunners 47.5. That gives the commanders.

Four fewer points projected this week than the Texans. They're at 17 and a half. I think they know everything we are knowing about the Chiefs at this point. Talk about the Texans. Oh, about the Texas? Yeah. I mean, my goodness. What is happening? It's going to be like, I do not care to watch the Texas play football this year. But now I'll be glued. You know what? Locked in on that game. It's really hard as I've had this. They're totally going to win. I've had this decision of like, because I have Jaden Daniels, he's hurt, and our league has a lot of backups rostered, and I have nobody to pick from. And so it's like Mario or Michael Pinnock's has been this decision for me. You know, just sitting out there on Waverwire that I don't even think about it, CJ Stroud. It's like, he's sitting there and I'm like, I can't do that, right? No, don't do it. Especially if Nico is out, no way. Right. No, I know. I know. It's just, I guess it's me saying I'm a little sad because, um,

Like we were in a better place with him years ago and the hope and the potential. By the way, Cam Scataboo just got fined $15,000 for violating the concussion protocol by going into the blue tent for Jackson Dark. Oh, is that what he did? Oh. When he went in the blue tint to check on him, he broke protocol. And they also, they find the Giants $200,000 and Brian Daibel 100,000 dollars. Yeah, because. Oh, that one makes more sense, Daibald, because it was. That was sketchy behavior. I was like, no, DART. You can't, Dave all cannot tell the medical guy to. I feel like, I need my quarterback. Stop. No, no, he can't. And I feel like Scadaboo actually should be paid as more of a consultant because he's an expert on the concussion area of life. He should have been given $15,000. All right. Let's get back to this game that is wild. Patrick Mahomes. Just checking on his friend. Yeah.

If I get concussed, I want you guys to check on me in the blue tank. No way. It's 15 grand. That's too much money, man. Yeah, okay. Mahomes, play him. Yeah. Implied point total is wild. The big start this week, I think Richard Smith's going to be good. The way they're talking about him, the fact Kareem Hunt is probably out. I mean, he has missed practice and isn't getting used a lot. The other argument there is obviously that Pacheco, after having a season high in opportunities last week, Maybe they just ride that and he's getting more acclimated and they give him more. It's very, very McKinnon-e of which if you played fantasy football long enough, we had a year where Jerich McKinnon was just a hero on limited snaps and limited touches. He was a touchdown machine. I know Smith had 19 opportunities last week. They did beat the Raiders 31 to 0, so I'm sure that that factored into it because he only played 35% of the snaps.

But I mean, I'm not opposed to it. He has juice. The five receptions for 42 yards is is very intriguing. But I think it makes like this will be the first week where I would play Pacheco with actual confidence and not just a, I have no one else to put in my lineup. Yeah, agree. So I guess Pacheco's in. Pacheco seems like a like a fine play this week. And I also agree that Breschard Smith could be an okay. Like when we're talking about that category of all the backups that we would play. Rashard Smith is ahead of most of them. Menangai or Smith? Yeah, I would go Smith. So Rashi Rice only played 41% of snaps last week, but that led to 10 targets, two touchdowns. Just 42 yards receiving, but that's, you know, it's like a yard per snap percentage there. It was an excellent game. Please play him. Yep. Now, Xavier Worthy, what's the truth about Xavier Worthy at this point where we know that the injury he suffered was going to be a...

It was going to be something that forced him to wear a brace and deal with the rest of the season. Once it happened in week five, we really haven't seen big numbers from Xavier Worthy. He's more just a piece of this machine right now. And when they really needed him, they kind of forced the issue, got him out there, but they don't need him right now with Rushie Rice. So I expect a few touches and you're just hoping for a touchdown. I would rather look elsewhere. Travis Kelsey is a top. Tide-in rest of the season. 50. We're going to need to- I promise. We're going to need to hone that in. He's a top 40. 30. He's a top 30. 25. Okay. He is a top 25. Top 25. Top 12. No. Really? Yeah. You think he's not a top 12 tight in? He'll finish the season as a top 12 tight end. Well, I'm saying rest of the season. You would pick 12 other tight-ins over in? Correct. Wow. I mean, we saw it. And you are not on drugs.