Fantasy Football - Dream Landing Spots + Keep/Trade/Cut - Podcast for 4/10

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in Thursday, April 10th, the fantasy footballers, Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Happy to be with you for another episode of the podcast. Might be watching over on YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. Thank you for. tuning in we're all here we're all ready to go we got keep trade cut today we got some NFL news to talk about we have a very fun quick question we'll jump into momentarily but how are you two gentlemen doing uh i'm doing very very well um thank you for asking good good good what are we doing here um no what we're not doing anything how are you mike

I'm fine. Okay. Thanks. All right. Not a lot going on. Let's jump in here. I'm in the throngs of top 30 visits over here, man. Well, we've got to crack the code. We've got early rankings shows coming out very soon as well. And I know you were working through your top, what, 20 running backs? Yeah, yeah. We're getting into early running back rankings. Right before the show, I know you were. You were working on that a little bit. Yeah, screwing everything up. Yeah, breaking some of our documents. But quick question of the day. When you stay at full in documents, like, how is the, what am I tearing them up? Yeah, we do it all on paper. And Mike walked over. My quill is out of ink. Our documents are in shambles. You spilled some coffee on the papers and we got to rewrite them. But that's why we got a team.

You can see Deucerzelli. These guys take care of all the paperwork. You can break a doc. You cannot break a document. The document was too formal for you. Yes. Yeah. Sorry about that. Ultimate draftgit.com. The dynasty pass available now if you want to check that out. Our quick question of the day, name a rookie and a landing spot that you would love to see. So pick a rookie, pick a landing spot, and give me the reason why you want to see that rookie land there. I'm going to jump in first. Okay. Yeah. I want to see Caleb Johnson go to the Broncos. And this is not my most ideal, like, oh my gosh, I'm going to go crazy if this happens. But the Broncos to me are my favorite destination. There's a handful of really good destinations for running backs this year. You know, a lot of people love the Cowboys, the Bears. There's a handful. I'd be happy at the Chargers, the Steelers. There's a bunch.

But to me, the Broncos are the one I'm pretty much the most excited for. It's a young, up-and-coming offense. You have a long history with Sean Payton of getting a ton of fantasy production out of his running back core. And it wasn't just because of Alvin Camaro. Way before Camero was there, you know, whether it was Mark Ingram or whether it was Pierre Thomas. Everybody's, you know. Chris Ivory. Yeah, I mean, the list was huge. This last year, the opportunity was totally there for Giovante Williams. The past. catching running backs, like the targets to the running back position, outstanding. The talent was just not good enough. But the reason I wanted to be Caleb Johnson going to the Broncos is because the other tippy top guys, the guys like, you know, Amarian Hampton, obviously Genti, like Henderson, it doesn't matter where they go. It really, they're going to be drafted high enough.

And they're going to go somewhere where they're going to make an impact for fantasy football. But Caleb Johnson is a player, I believe, is very good. I think if given an opportunity in a good situation, he will succeed. And so he's the one I want to push up and add another guy to like your rookie drafts where you're going, oh, I'm excited about a fourth player. You could say the same for like Cam Scataboo. I want him to be an early draft pick. I don't care where he goes. Just some team to invest early because I think he's good. You just want more players for us to care about. Bingo. Okay. Mike, who's the name for you? I'm going to go with Tedderow and McMillan to the Dallas Cowboys. It's interesting because my answer to this question was almost Matthew Golden to the Dallas Cowboys. So talk about your like of this fit. So I like it because he is, he's big bodied outside wide receiver.

We don't need to get creative with him. We don't need to move him into the slot, which he'll do some of that, I'm sure. But it's like we can keep C.D. Lamb as the elite number one of the Dallas Cowboys moving him all around while you have actually someone who the defense has to care about. And they're on the outside. And then C.D. Lamb, you know, runs P.A. Crossers across the middle. And then gets us tons of fantasy points where... I don't know for sure if McMillan can be a true number one wide receiver in the NFL. I'm not saying you can't, but I don't look at his film, at him being a prospect and go, yeah, absolutely. This is going to be a slam dunk, you know, like watching Malik neighbors. We knew he would be, he'll have no problem being a number one. Can McMillan do it? I don't know for sure. So get that secondary option where I'm not overly concerned about. Holy crap. They added a true alpha here.

to the Cowboys. Is this going to bring C.D. Lamb down a couple spots. Is he wide receiver six now? I don't worry about that. It helps the offense. And I think that it's just a great fit and draft. Capital makes sense where they are selecting. So I could see it happening. So are you saying you would rather him go to a team with a quarterback where he can be the two? Yes. Then go to maybe a worse. offense as a whole, but he gets to be the one. Yeah, that's what I would prefer. All right. I went with Jackson Dart to the Pittsburgh Steelers, which would be picked 21 if it stayed the way it is now. I am a, I'm becoming more and more of a fan of Jackson Dart. The more that I watch him play, the more film I watch. I think that this fit, there are players that we want to care about on Pittsburgh.

We've been fatigued. We've been fatigued by the quarterback situation. I don't know if we'll get what we want from Aaron Rogers if he signs, but we want to care about D.K. McHaff for a bunch of years. We want to care about Pat Fryman. We want to care about Jalen Warren, whoever they bring in it running back. We want the offense to matter again in Pittsburgh. And Jackson Dart could be the guy that it works out. I think that he is probably going to go higher than 21. But Pittsburgh's a team that is going to be competing that has pieces that would make it very easy on him. This is a three-year SEC starter. I love his evasiveness in the pocket. I love the fact that he's gotten better every single year. I love the back shoulder throws. I love the ability. He's got some Josh Allen pocket awareness to him. Most yards in the SEC. He's got...

NFL pedigree, right? Like his dad played in the NFL. So I think we see a lot of things out of... His name's dart, and he throws a ball. He does throw darts as well. Highest yards per attempt. Those are darts. Love it. But, no, I think that that would be a really unique fit, and it's one where, like, you could see, like, what if Aaron Rogers is not their quarterback? That's starter. That's like rookie starter. You know, we've done the Kenny Picket thing, and I know that they didn't work out, and I know your odds are lower in the 20s. But I think that could be a move-up. Sure. That could be a pick 14.

That could be a pick 15. Well, Pittsburgh does not currently have a second round draft pick. I think Pittsburgh taking Jackson Dart would be an excellent move at 83 in the third round. Well, Jason, for some reason, you know, he clearly didn't watch the Gator Bowl because Jackson Dart was the MVP of the Gator Bowl. He didn't watch the Senior Bowl. So, I mean, to me, though, Jackson Dart, it's about a lot of isolated plays for him that are. NFL level throws and not necessary. I mean, I think you're 100% right there because when I watch quarterbacks and I've said this for years. So I think Andy is a way better scout of quarterback talent than I am. That is not the position that I feel like I, you know, thrive in projecting. And so I'll probably give Jackson Dart a little bit more leeway than.

based on my own eyes because I'm like I don't get it I've watched a couple but I think you've nailing why he definitely has incredible plays like this play where he evades the pocket gets out keeps his eyes down field throws or or scrambles and runs you know but he also has a lot of inconsistency and I see that over and I see a I see some things where I go what and and I prefer the you know the every play type of quarterback so I don't know he's gonna go I think he's going to go ahead of Sanders. That's why my follow-up was going to be for you personally. I do think he'll go ahead. That's why I don't think Pittsburgh at 21. Look, it's a spot you'd love to see. I don't know if it's going to work out. Also, I think Pittsburgh would be willing to make some more moves. I know they don't have a second to get up and get that position figured out if they believed in it. But I think he's going to go ahead as Schuhrer Sanders. I think teams are falling in love with him. I think, you know, it's strange because it's like somebody like Patrick Mahomes in college at Texas Tech.

It was about a, you know, this is like a 500 starter, but there were the plays, right? There were the plays and the athleticism and some of the things that happen. You do tend to be when you're that talented, a do-it-all guy in college, and that leaves a lot of room for mistakes. He's not without his mistakes. I'm not saying he's a guarantee to succeed, but I would like D.K. McCaff to matter, and right now he doesn't. And I'd like some of these other players to matter moving forward. Right now, Mason Rudolph would be your projected starter. For the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. And they, you know, Dart has spent considerable time visiting Browns, Raiders, Giants, Saints, Rams, and then Steelers. Because I think it was last week he visited the Steelers. So look, I want more players to matter too, Jason. I'm with you on that. So let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. NFL Network's Ian Rappaport reporting.

It's always a tough one. Rappaport reporting? Yeah. You know what I mean? But it's also... I think that's why he got the job. Is he wrap-up a porter? Exactly. James Cook will play for the bills in 2025. That's good. He's under contract. Yeah. Maybe this is more news because, you know, you worry about a hold-in or you worry about him listing his house for sale. Yeah, right after... Did he do the socials? Oh, he wiped socials. Oh, did he do that as well? Yeah. When Brandon Bean said that, you know, The contracts, they tried to extend it. It didn't work. They went elsewhere. And then he lists the house for sale. That is a... You're trying out. You're pulling out all the stops. It looks petty. It's probably unrelated. I mean, putting your house to the market's a big decision. Maybe he just wants to move to a different neighborhood. But it looks very petty. A neighborhood far, far away from Buffalo. I...

49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan said Christian McCaffrey is healthy, but the 49ers will look to add a running back in the draft. As they should. They probably add two. I mean, this team needs five or six a year. But right now it's Garindo, right? I mean, so no Jordan Mason, no Elijah Mitchell. These guys were part of a backfield with McCaffrey before. So this is not a surprise nor a worry, really. It's not a surprise. It's not a problem for Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey is just, if he's healthy, he's awesome and he's one of the better running backs in football. It's more about is Garendo going to be the backup or we're going to have another third round type running back going to the 49ers? We go, I don't know who the backup is anymore. Really hope they don't draft a third round running back. That would suck so much because right now Garendo. It's one of their favorite things. Garendo really matters. Yes, he does. A very valuable fantasy asset. And of course, Chris McCaffrey.

would be, you know, in the running for the running back one again this year if they don't add someone. So hopefully, I mean, every time I hear a coach or a general manager talk about a position that they're looking to add in this year's draft, I'm like, I just can't believe any, you know, it's like they are doing a very high level job. And this matters to a great degree to them. And so to come out and say, I'm looking for a wide receiver. That just feels like I don't believe you. I don't, I no longer believe you're looking for a wide receiver. And I hope that's the case here. Yeah, they'll draft a running back. Sure, but whether it's a third rounder or, you know, in the sixth or seventh. I mean, they've also been good at grabbing, you know, the undrafted guys and signing them after the draft. The biggest, if you want to paint the, the positive side of the McCaffrey story this year is, hey, he's the same old Christian McCaffrey, stays healthy, has a great year, could be running back one.

The bad side is just the worries that you have with a running back that has been injured before and is getting older, which would be some sort of, if you have a tweak in training camp, if you have a small injury and you have depth, suddenly it starts to make more sense to protect the guy a little bit at some point in time. Get the most out of him on less snaps. I don't think there's anybody that thinks Christian McCaffrey snap counts are going to stay. prime Christian McCaffrey for the rest of his career. His efficiency could still be there. But that's what you get scared of with aging, running back, coming off season, ending injury, you know, going into the year. So, you know, if Caleb Johnson is a San Francisco 49er, Jason, which is a very possible thing. That would make me very sad. For Caleb? For Caleb, for Christian McCaffrey, and for Isaac Gorendo.

So triple set. Yeah, that would be the exact opposite of what our quick question was, of what my hope was and why. So maybe that would be what your hope isn't. Correct. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence, optimistic, he'll be a full go by the start of the camp or season. That seems like a big difference. Those are very different. Wait a minute. Can we get the full tweet from Cameron Wolf to make sure? Very, very different. Camp starts in July. Camp slash season. Like if you say by camp, cool. If you say by season, I'm like, wow, this is a worse injury than I thought. Yeah.

The season starts in September. So camp slash season is a big range. Yeah. So this is not news. I mean, that's what this is. William Cohen says they're going to be tweaking the footwork to fit the timing offense. Yeah, it says camp slash season. That's the actual quote from Cameron Wolf. Okay. It was non throwing shoulder surgery. Uh, Mr. Wolf, I'm going to need like the audio clip or something there. Come on. Help us out, please. Okay. Okay. Camp slash season slash playoffs. I'll be ready. Anytime between now and October. Trevor Lawrence, for all of the mud we could throw on him for his disappointing career so far, he's pretty tough. He's fought through some. Sure.

I can't imagine. I think when camp comes around, a non-throwing shoulder injury is not going to keep them on the sidelines. Camp slash season. Yes, but I, but I full stop at camp. All right. We'll take a quick break. By the way, there's a new dynasty pot out, the mock draft Mayhem episode with Kyle, Jason and Mike, all in studio. Yes. You can watch it on YouTube. The rookie mock draft. So if you want to hear. Is that why my microphone smells bad? Is that Kyle? Mike was over there. Oh, it's Kyle. Oh, Kyle was over there. It wasn't me. How dare you? I just thought I was going on with the joke. I didn't remember Kyle as part of the show because we were so good. He just said Kyle was in the studio. That insinuates I listened to him. Yeah. And so we did a mock draft where with a little mayhem put in there where we would be able to use that and say, okay, here's a scenario. What if this happens? Do you still value that player there? So, you know, just.

exploring more opportunities and not just, hey, this is where I'm ranking a player right now. All right. We'll take a break and we'll jump into some keep trade cut. Trade cut. All right. We're going to start with some third, fourth round quarterback options. Keep trade cut. Jaden Daniels. Jalen Hertz. Joe Burrow. Man. Jaden, Jalen, and Joe. We're supposed to like ease into things, right? Right, you normally want some softballs. I want to lay up because this one is brutal. I think the cut is pretty clear here. You do? I do, yeah. Uh-huh, and you should tell us. It would be Joe Burrow for me. And it's simple. We've talked about it a lot at nauseam over the years, but the fact that he is a pure pocket passer, he's not going to be going out there and rushing for 10 touchdowns and 750 yards.

That means that he's got to stay complete magma fire. And don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm not saying I don't want Joe Burrow next. I think he's going to be excellent. But if I had to draft at the same draft value today, and I'm decided between these three players, I'm far more confident, assuming the touch push is not outlawed. I'm far more confident in the other two guys because of their scrambling, rushing, and rushing touchdown ability. I know that's, that is almost always my go-to answer, but it's like, what Joe Burrow did last year. It's like, yeah, Jaden was a rookie. He's going to get better. But like Joe Burrow was more points per game than both of those guys last year. Kind of. Kind of. So Joe Burrow was 21.9 fantasy points per game last year. Jalen Hertz got injured in the third to last game and then didn't play the rest. If you take out his injured game, he was 22.2. So he actually.

averaged more than all three of these guys. It doesn't feel like that when you look at the season. Well, he was, it's funny because he was actually at 21 last year. Jalen Hurts was at 21 last year. And Burrow, two years ago was 21.9 again. So this is tight. Also, Jay, just saying, that's four point. Just so you know, those points per game are four point. Sure, but they were for both. But it, okay. Because in six point, I'm seeing Joe at 27. Yeah, I would take Joe Burrow. You would keep Joe Burrow? Like out of these three? No. No, no, no. I would keep Jaden Daniels. I would trade Joe Burrow and I would cut Jalen Hertz. Mike? Gosh, this question is, this question is wild. I guess I'm probably keeping Burrow. Just because this is, I'll take a slight value of give me, you know, whatever running back wide receiver in that Jaden Daniels spot and then get me Burrow.

Like, oh, man. The rushing attempts for Daniels is, you know, it's outstanding. Yes. 148, I think. It's tight. The reason that you say this is not a softball question is because my keep is Jalen Hertz. So you kept Burrough, I kept Hertz, and you kept Jay and Daniels, you can make a very intellectual argument for all three of them. Right. When I think about. Are they in the same tier? Because if they're in the same tier, you should take Burrough. I was going to say, I don't think they're in the same tier because to me, I feel like the two mobile Russian quarterbacks are worth more than Joe Burrow. I mean, Joe Burrow, 21.9 points this year, that's great. A couple years ago, 21.9, he's had 19.6, 14.7. He had some injuries that year. But if you look at Jalen Hertz, and yes, these are all four point per, both him and Jalen Hertz, all the numbers I'm talking about are four point per passing touchdowns, which does.

That favors the running quarterback. But that is still the predominant. You know, that's the majority of leagues. It's getting closer to 50-50. But you look at his numbers. I mean, 21 points, which, again, this was actually 22.2 if you take out his injured game last year for Jalen Hertz. The year before, 21, better than, you know, all those other numbers. The year before, 25. I mean, you look at his rushing touchdowns, and I made a joke, which wasn't a joke, which was the tush push matters. The touch push, Jalen Hertz, since his rookie year where he didn't really play, as a actual starter, has not had fewer than 10 rushing touchdowns. Like in his career, 10, 13, 15, 14, there is a baseline there that is really unfair. And that's with Sequin having like 700 rushing touchdowns. What was, so Hertz was at what if he, the injured game? 22.2. Okay. In four points. You take out.

Week 18, Joe Burrow is at 22 and a half. Both Burrow and Hertz have a consistency rating of B with 52.9% of games exceeding 20 points each. I think exactly tied. Now, just to go back one second because I'm not going to let you just take out his worst game. I was just taking, but he played 100% of snaps. I'm not taking out a random game. I'm taking out a game where Jalen Hertz didn't play. I was taking out a game that. Real fancy players don't play. Sure, but Joe Burrow did. I think I'm answering this question based on scoring format. Like if I'm in a four point, I guess I'll take one of the, I'll take the running quarterback. But if I'm in a six point per passing touchdown, I'll take a value on Joe Burrow. He'll go after those guys. How is Burroughs, I haven't looked into this, his touchdown percentage, was it very different this last year than in years prior?

Do you have that? I can pull that up real quick. So last, this past year, he was 5.8 or wait. No, he was at 6.6 in 24. And so the year, right, so 23, you know, it was the down year. That was, he was down in the fours, but before that was 5.8 and 6.5. Okay. So for Joe to be in the sixes is not strange. Yeah. Joe Barrow is going to throw more touchdowns this year than Jalen Hertz. That's a, that's a given. It's just a matter of, it's the total touch. Yeah, it's the total and the consistency, and they both have been very consistent. I mean, we didn't, we haven't spent a lot of time talking about Jaden Daniels. You're going to be, you know, target on your back, sophomore season, a lot of expectations, not catching anybody by surprise, you know, any thoughts about Jaden in the conversation of like. It's funny. He's obviously being drafted ahead of the other two guys and he's the most exciting.

He is the guy that if I'm, if I leave the draft with one of these three, I'm the most excited for Jaden Daniels just because the what if, you know, such an incredible good rookie season. Did you just gasp? Yeah, that was, that was for effect. Yeah, exactly. That wasn't to sustain. No, it wasn't to sustain life or speech. It was to be wowed. But, you know, it's funny with Jaden Daniels because there's, there's the opportunity for him to really. take off and elevate his game, going into year two, adding Debo Samuel, all those things that are fantastic, but there's also the world where, you know, the CJ Stroud that was impossible to get worse, adding Stefan Diggs and going into year two couldn't get worse, but he didn't have as big a sample size. Neither Jalen Hertz nor Joe Burrow to me have aged out to where I'm fearful that their play is going to be bad next year.

And so I would rather have someone that's got three, four, five seasons under their belt doing it consistently than the one year, even though the one year does mean higher potential. 500 votes in, I threw it up really quick. 51.5% four point leagues, 48.5% six point leagues. Pulling the foot client, which it seems pretty neck and neck right now. And honest, honest to goodness, Mike is. Very wise to say that those two players and really more than any other two players, specifically Joe Burrow and Jalen Hertz when you're comparing those two, that scoring format makes a big difference. You're talking about double digit touchdowns on the ground for Jalen Hertz guaranteed if the push is still here versus way more passing touchdowns for Joe Burrow. Well, seventh and eighth round quarterbacks then. Another three back to back to back.

Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, Kyler Murray. Baker had eight finishes inside the top five at the position, which was the most of all quarterbacks. Bo Nix was at that sweet, sweet, 21.9 fantasy points per game, which is Joe Burrow numbers and four point. That's from week five on for Bo Nix. And then Kyler Murray, the fifth most rushing yards among quarterbacks, there was some little puff piece about him running more. Well, the... It is. It's an interview with Kylo. That's what I say. It's not quite a puff piece because this isn't someone projecting. You just know it's a lie. Yes. That is the thing you have to decide. Watch the clip. It's Kyler Murray and they're saying, they're talking about him running. And Kyler is, he's saying like, yeah, next year I need to run more. It's going to be part of the scheme. Essentially is what he's saying. And it's this.

Oh my gosh, Kyler. Are you seriously going to drag us back in? Because we just got out. No. And I was feeling, I was feeling so good and so safe on the outside. Stay out. The previous question had two Russian quarterbacks, one pocket passer. This one is more so two pocket passers, one Russian quarterback, although Bonnix can run a little bit, but. Yeah, how far behind? But Tolkien Baker, I mean, they're scramblers, but they're not. Bo Nix had 430 rushing yards, but on 92 attempts, a lot of, a lot of rushing attempts. Well, I don't discount Baker. He's almost at 400 yards on the ground. So Kyler was at 572. Yeah. So where do you look here? Kyler Murray with newly minted Trey McBride, Marvin Harrison's sophomore season, Bo Nix.