Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - BONUS Episode: Mailbag and Listener Questions

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Welcome to the show, the bonus episode. Bonus. This is the fantasy footballers podcast. Bonus. It is Saturday. Saturday. June 13. Whoa. What? Is there an echo in the building? Just a harmony, Andy. A cacophony, if you will. You are very awake this morning. Well, it's a Saturday. And so I'm ready to get at it.

Welcome to the show. This is a mailbag show. We are bringing an extra episode of the fantasy footballers podcast to you this week because we wanted to answer all of your questions that you've been sending in. We had a pretty jam-pack show on Thursday if you didn't catch it. Make sure you download it on iTunes. Listen on the web, the fancyfootballers.com. We interviewed Brian Tess, the correspondent for FantasyPros.com, talking some Seattle Seahawks, fantasy relevant players. A lot of guys in Seattle worth talking about. And we had a big,

live mock draft. Yes. And that was pretty fun. What did you guys think about that? I had a good time. It was, I thought, very interesting to hear you guys elaborating your thoughts as the draft is going. Because honestly, I've only drafted against you guys, in which we've done several times, but I've never been able to get inside of your head to see what your thought process was. Yeah. Yeah.

That was fun. Make sure you check that episode out. Quick question for you guys. What's the worst or best fantasy football trade you've ever been a part of? Oh, no. Yeah. No. Yeah. I know. I'm not allowing you to make this. I'll go first. You guys think for a moment. Mine is the worst. And by the way, if you don't say the ones I'm thinking of for you, then I'll just bring them up. No. I'll admit it. I'm a man. So the.

Best, I'm going to go with best because I still remember this. Yeah, of course I am. Then I'm going with the best. I don't make bad trades. No, I wanted to bring this one up because I remember still, it's in the fantasy lore of my life a few years ago when I was just a budding fantasy football player trying to find my way in the world. We're sitting there right before the trade deadline. My team is on the playoff cusp and I throw out a little trade and I send Donnie Avery, wide receiver for the Rams, out there and bring back DeAngelo Williams before he went on his.

massive scoring tirade ending up the number one fantasy running back and leading me all the way into the title game. Yeah, but you lost Donnie Avery. See, that's what I said. No, that's not what I said. That was one of the most fun trades to see work in your direction where you just basically took the best player in the league and walked him through. And at the time of the trade, it wasn't like it was going to be vetoed by anybody because DeWill hadn't done enough. Mm-hmm.

for the league to think, oh, this is unfair. It just seemed like a trade. Oh, I'm going to add D. Well, and then he just went crazy. So the show notes here said, what's the best or worst fantasy trade you've ever been a part of? I was going to bring up taking advantage of 15-year-old Andy many moons ago with the Rick Smith. You were going back to fantasy basketball from the 90s? However, I will stick with football here since this is the fantasy footballers. Rick Smith is legit.

Yeah. What position does he play? Remind me the exact trade. He plays the white center. Remind me the exact trade last year or the year before last, where I also had Julius Thomas thrown in. I wish I could remember. I wish I could remember. So great. Because it was one of those trades where you make the trade and then you go watch football with your buddy who you just traded and they're all on your team going off against him.

It was great. I think I gave you Julius Thomas and Moreno. And No Sean Moreno right before they both. You know, you're not going to win every trade, especially when you make 74 a year like I do. Mike, why don't you share your... I get to do with my best one as well. I'll do the worst. I know the one you're talking about. But my best trade, first off, the caveat of I, this was the beginning of the year, towards the beginning. I offer Jason, Matt Ryan, and Doug Martin.

I offered that combo for run DMC. This was coming off of Jerry McFadden was spectacular. Jason said it was Ho-Humman. Ho-Humman didn't get back to me. I made the exact same offer, and I got Adrian Peterson, and then Peterson decided he was going to run for 2,000 yards all the way to the title. The thing about that trade is I remember when that happened, and you got rid of Doug Martin before he had his six touchdown game or whatever it was. That's the one. It wasn't six, right? It was four.

But he had felt like six. 200 plus yards. And you came boo-hooing into... Yeah, well, that sucks. I can't believe I made this trade. Adrian Peterson. Oh, I traded a better player away. And then you didn't. So worked out for you, as it often does. You're going to share your bad ones for last year? So the worst trade was we're in the Keeper League. So those are in consideration. And I had Jeremy Hill and...

Peterson was my number one. Clearly he was out. He was clogging a very small bench. And I made a deal with a division mates. And so I had to sell very high to get geo because I want to count three disclaimers so far, Jason. Yeah. All right. All right. Because the trade is awful. Yeah. But so the trade ended up being.

Adrian Peterson and a first round pick for... It is awful. For Gio Bernard and a sixth round pick. Wow. But then you won the championship, so it didn't matter. I won the championship and I played Gio three times. There you go. You do what you have to do to win. Honestly, it illustrates the fact that even if on paper it looks ridiculous the year after, last year Adrianian Peterson didn't play.

Yeah, that's the truth of it, right? You got rid of your first round pick. It doesn't look great now because you could have kept Peterson and had him in the offseason, blah, blah, blah. You won the championship. That's what it's all about. So just a reminder, if you want to follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers. You can go to our website, the fantasy footballers.com. And don't forget if you two want your question answered, you can email at the fantasy footballers.com. We have a question voicemail box 302-464 TFFB.

That's 302-464-8332. You can call us, ask your question on there. We also really appreciate those iTunes reviews. So if you like the show, you like the content, you appreciate the bonus episode. Oh, bonus. Go ahead and hop on to iTunes, subscribe. We really appreciate the reviews. They help us out a ton with charts and exposure and silly things. Absolutely. And before we get into our mailbag, because that's going to take the entire...

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All right, let's go to an email here from Justin from the 302. He says he's in a 12 team keeper league where he can trade draft picks. Oh, here we go. In future years or on draft day for players, which I love. These are leagues that I love. It's our 11th year, awesome. And we are currently struggling with a few members of our league who want to limit the number of picks you can trade.

And they basically want to try to combat super teams, right, and eliminate multiple players tanking. He said he remembers we talked about this a little on a previous show, so he wants to know if we have any tips, tricks, and information for leagues like that. Is there a rule that you should implement to stop tanking, stop super teams? Or do we just tell people to shut up and deal with it? And we have debated this basically every year of our Keeper League.

What happens in a league like this? If you can trade draft picks for future years... Mm-hmm. That's what it does it. Yes. If it's future year draft pick trading, you end up with teams trying to play their team the right way, which is...

Trade away your current good players to get future picks if you're not in contention so you can compete the next year. Yeah, absolutely. But here's where, and I know I disagree with both of you, but I am on the side of the people in this guy's league who want to avoid the super teams and getting the economy of the league. Once you're in it for so many years, it just becomes this wide gulf and this wide gap where you've got super teams and super awful teams. And so what I would

personally do is I would remove the ability to trade future picks. Future picks. You can trade any asset that you have now, but you don't actually have your pick next year because you don't know where it is. I know that most... You would remove...

Trading draft picks in a draft pick trading league. That's cool. Good solution. No, I would be able to trade draft picks as soon as you have those draft picks. So the season ends, and I know that I finished last, so I've got the number one pick. I don't have that pick to trade. Oh, so off-season trading only. Off-season trading, draft day trading, those type of things. The only thing that I will, the advice I will give is make sure you have a hard trade deadline that is not the very end of the season. It has to be...

uh what what do you what do we have it slightly after the halfway point we did a little earlier than other leagues yeah but that's to make sure that teams don't just sell everything or completely buy there's there's a point where you you have to make a decision if you're all in or you're all out that's actually one of the best ways if you want to keep your league the exact same format that's one of the best ways to combat that is just don't wait till the end of the year when everybody it's clear whether a team's going to stink or they'll be good may people make a decision earlier on who they're going to trade

Another thing we did in one of our leagues is we mixed up the keeper situation to where our teams would keep four players and three of them would go into a lottery and you didn't know which guy you were going to get. So better players get into the draft. Why are you raising your hands up? Well, because you actually brought up a thought that's new to me.

What about the, yeah, what about the concept, I'm struggling for life and for air? No, what about the concept of, because I wanted to criticize you for moving the trade deadline, so it's like, oh, so you just want to not trade during the, you know, middle part of the year? You were going to use that voice, too. Yeah, I did.

But my point is, what if you actually cut even earlier than our somewhat early trade deadline? Yeah, you cut off draft pick trading. Exactly. Cut off draft pick trading super early. I like it. And then allow regular trading later. You can still trade, you know, future guys for, you know, strong guys now. I like that. I think we've actually brought that up before, but not in perfect form like that. Because if you have two draft, if you have a draft pick trading deadline and you have a regular one, that might work. Well, guys from our league, we're bringing that up right now. Yeah.