Week 14 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, It's FRIDAY! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/8

A fantasy face off and a wheel of shame. You do not want to miss a ton of matchups on today's show. All the latest injury news to get you ready for week 14 of fantasy football. And yeah, it's Friday. Subscribe right there. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Friday episode of the fantasy footballers, Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway.

All right. Yeah, baby. Hey, we got a half. They hit the over. Yeah. In the first half. Yeah. We did it, everyone. Then they slowed down. It seemed like 31 points was going to be like the final score or the final total once I bet on the under. Yeah. But then. Yeah, you doubted Mitchell Trabisky. You two were insufferable once again with your backed into Mitch fandom. Oh, for the weekend. Baby. I never had a doubt. Did you have any doubt, Mike? Oh, no. I mean, like, nobody beats Mitch. Like after he threw that first pick, it's like, not a problem. Just you wait. Then should have thrown the second one. The entire arena has turned on Mitchell Trebisky. Like, there's, there's no way they're going to bench him. He's going to come through with some, some serious points for sure. Oh, yeah. Just I was.

Cool, calm, collected, knowing that he's going to turn it around, get the rushing yards. I wasn't doing the math of like, if we get point two points from the quarterback, can we still win? Wasn't doing that at all. Because he had a great game. Yeah, he did. They lost. Who cares? Yeah, no. We won. We won the night. Well, look, our, our first entry in the Will Zeke be a league winner contest was a winner. I mean, we had, we had 72 receiving yards on seven receptions, 22 carries. Goodness gracious. This is the preview of the rest of the Patriot season. I saw someone point out, and I apologize for not knowing who it is on Twitter right now, but Zeke scored more points in that game than Tony Pollard has in any game this season. Wow. Yeah. And seven for 72 through the arrow. That'll help. And then we have hero.

Hunter Henry with two touchdowns in the game. Scotty Fish tied in that we had. It was Ryan McDowell, Jason. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Love that guy. Shout out. So, you know, we had a football game. It hit the over. If you played Naji Harris, that was nausea inducing. And then worse than that or close to it, Jalen Warren, seven for 11? Grody. Not good. Grody to the max. So that was last night's game. We have a whole bunch of matchups to talk about today. We've got NFL news to cover. We'll find out if Echler loses his job by the end of the show officially or not. I hope he's in your draft king's lineup guys. I really hope he is. Yeah. Yeah, he's in there. He's not.

Yeah. No, he's not in mind. He's not. I think he'll be zero percent rostered across draft Kings. Well, we do have that today, too, the fantasy face off with the Mike Wright, the fantasy hitman trademark wheel of shame. I'm pulling the turkey. Now, you don't have a hoodie on. Is he wearing the right amount of clothing for what you expect to happen later? I don't know what's happening. But I was told, don't wear a hoodie. So I wore a jacket that you could remove it. You could take off. Yeah, smart. I don't know what's happening either. So I'm really looking for it. I hope it works because we found out this morning there's.

There's a little bit of trouble. What's this? Couldn't clear customs in time? Yeah. What is the, I mean, I lived your life last year. Right. Of the consecutive. How is that, how is your psyche right now? It made it's all right. The lineup last week was, it was okay. It just Sam Howell. Terry McLaurin. No. You're not even blaming the zero. No, I told you. I will never, ever blame Terry McLaurin, ever. Does that mean I don't have to blame John Dodson? No. Oh, yeah. The season is not Dawson's fault. Okay. Sam Howell is selfish. Wait. Okay, so just to be clear. Yeah. Yeah. We are going to put the blame. Yes. On the second leading yardage. Yes. Yeah. You're darn right. We are. It's Sam Howell's fault for throwing too much to everyone. Okay. I just needed clarity. It sounds nonsensical, but Mike really made a compelling argument. Yeah. Is he winning? No. Yeah. Cool. Great yards, bro.

But so he would be winning if the yards were... Because he would have touchdowns. If you threw it to the other guys, imagine the yards. Yeah. These are... He could be the leading passers. These are Logan, Thomas, Curtis, Samuel, Diami Brown yards, Jason. Yeah, no, I do get that. Those are grody, as you would say. Man, lots going on. It is Friday. Put Clan Friday. Well, every Friday we give a $100 gift card away. Today's winner is the... Reality is. That is the handle. The underscore reality underscore is. Is what? That is what we'll find out. Oh, man. Someday. So who's on first situation? I really feel like I deserve a busted there. I didn't even want to say the joke. Busted. Thank you, Mike. You're welcome. $100 to fantasy champs.com. Congratulations. Thank you for supporting the show. The underscore reality underscore is over on Patreon. Thank you very much.

Into the news we go. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. The reality is, Jason, is that I had no qualms about starting Hunter Henry for our Scotty Fish team. I just knew. Is that all we started in our combined team was just Hunter Henry? Well, no, Zeke as well. Oh, fantastic. Because we are, we know what's going on with New England. Yeah. Don't check our rankings. Don't check our rankings. Um, Amari Cooper did not practice again on Thursday due to the concussion. Yeah, I mean, this is going to be, he's not playing. Derek Carr remained limited on Thursday dealing with the concussion as well. And ribs and a shoulder. Yeah, ribs, shoulder, concussion. Taseom Hill didn't practice again on Thursday, foot, left hand. Okay. His foot is a left hand? That's a huge problem. I think we figured out the problem. Yeah, they're going to need to send him this week.

You're so stupid. I'm so stupid. Dude, I've been such a silly dude this morning. Yeah, what is? I don't know. Oh, no, come on. Come on. Al. Thank you, Al. You got it. You feel me. You feel me. Why don't you put that on my board for me? No, no, you shall not. Yeah, I'm your boss too. Go. Chris Olavi did not practice on Thursday. Did the saints practice? Due to illness. Yeah, I mean, what's going on? You got illnesses, you got feet that are hands. Lamar Jackson did not practice due to illness. There's a lot of illness going around to be fair. He should be fine by Sunday. What about this guy? Breece Hall didn't practice. This one is something you have to monitor. If you don't practice Wednesday and Thursday, he had limited practice last week still played poorly. Poorly. Well, to be fair, he's been playing poorly for quite a while.

You just have to monitor it if you're the Breece Hall manager that needs a start. Pick up Dalvin Cook. I know it sounds gross, but if Breece is out of the way, Dalvin Cook's going to get a lot of work. We just saw what happened with Zeke. I will add, we did get an update. Breece Hall will be limited today. And yesterday someone had asked, it was Breece Hall saying, I'm going to play. Seems like he'll be out there. Players are always optimistic about playing. Well, generally, they're optimistic. What would it be better? Breece Hall playing? and you putting him in or him sitting and playing Dalvin Cook. Because I feel like Dalvin Cook would be a better fantasy asset. I don't. Neither are very good. I mean, honestly, the worst is probably what's going to happen. Yeah. Which is Breece will play and share time with Dalvin Cook. That's right. He will be in my lineup. Why don't you put them both in? Like the old, the Singletary Damian Pierce strategy. When I think, how many Jets can I get on the field?

I'm trying to smash him in my lineup. That's good advice, Andy. Yes, yes. Doug Peterson says, Trevor Lawrence is feeling good. We'll probably be a game time decision. So, you know, that's from the horse's mouth. Ian Rappaport was saying he still has, quote, has a lot to prove before he's cleared to play. I said it in the beginning of the week. I think he's going to play football this week. Is it going to play football well? That is his plant leg. Against the Browns. On the road. No. But we did bring it up. Like if he's the starter, then you think differently about Zay Jones and Calvin Ridley. That's the implication there. Like, I'm not playing. And honestly, I would prefer in this matchup to not really play those guys, no matter who the quarterback is. The one that I want to play is the Browns DST. So it's like I'm actually kind of rooting for Trevor Lawrence to heal up for a week and let the Browns DST score a couple touchdowns.

And some news based on the starts of the week yesterday, but Dalton Schultz downgraded, did not practice after he was limited on Wednesday. And so at this point, Brevin Almighty in your lineup. I like it. Yeah. I like it. Brevin Jordan, baby. It's a Bruce Almighty joke. Yeah. Okay. Well, no, it's an Evan. Isn't there an Evan Almighty? Oh, there is. Yeah, that's why it's Brevin Almighty. Yeah. Not an idiot, Mike. Oh, I apologize. Who could forget the smash follow-up sequel? Evan Almighty. Evan Almighty. You got it. Start with Steve Carell. That is the, he is the sequel to Schultz. It's perfect. It is perfect. Evan Almighty. It rolls off the tongue. If you combine Bruce and Evan. There you go. I'm adding it. I'm adding it to the website. Mike, are you? This joke is great. Thank you. I just, it was, it was so high level. I couldn't.

You couldn't reach. I couldn't see up that high. You needed a ladder from us. Goodness gracious. All right. Kenneth Walker, Zach Charbonnet, both returned to limited practices. Were you trying to hit the Friday, but yeah, but I was too slow. I missed, I didn't remember that it was on my board. That was a perfect moment. Al, the chances of you losing your job go up significantly with this power. People will unsubscribe. I'm getting your job toast today. Did not practice again on Thursday. Yeah, okay. Rutrow. Yeah, you got to really pay attention. Clyde Edwards Allaire, Jerich McKinnon. I know Jerry McKinnon has missed some games being hurt. He's been doing limited practices, though. And then there was a quote from the chief saying, you know, we've kind of been managing Jerich McKinnon. So if Pacheco misses, I think, you know, both are dart throw plays that may come through. I do wonder in.

in a matchup against Buffalo with a team that could score on you high over under, a good game environment. If Pacheco doesn't go, players like Rashi Rice might be more important because, you know, part of the problem with the chief's receivers isn't just that there isn't one guy getting all the work. It's that the defense has been great and that their running game has been really good. Like Pacheco's been getting a ton of work. And so I think the plays McKinnon. That's what's going to ask. Is it Clyder or McKinnon? It's McKinnon. Okay. Full practice. Ready to rumble. Any other news that we need to talk about? Are you expecting Walker or Charbonate to be out there? I mean, I guess if you're limited on Thursday, that's a positive sign. It's a terrible decision to have to make between the two of them. I mean, if they're both active, I think you've got to believe it's Kenneth Walker. Yeah. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance.

Fantasy Forecast. Yesterday on the show, we covered the Buccaneers, Falcons, Lions, Bears, Bengals, Jags, Browns, Panthers, Saints, Texans, Rams, Ravens. Not through a lot of matchups yesterday. Probably because I stopped paying attention to the clock. And we just kept going. Today we have the first matchup. We'll talk about the Minnesota Vikings 6 and 6 taking on the 5 and 7 Las Vegas Raiders. Raiders are at home, the Draft King Sportsbook line, Minnesota minus three, the overrunner. This week, delicious 40. Oh, yeah. It is ironic in the beginning of the season, good weather across the nation. Like 40 is like, ah, darn it. This game's only 40. This week, it's like, that starts with a four. Heck yeah, man. So we had the Vikings. They started one and four. They won five in a row. Then they lost their last two, and we know that Dobbs is going to start. He has been.

embarrassing the last two games. Five interceptions, four sacks, three fumbles. Two turtle doves. He's so close to being benched. And that's why all of the starts at decisions related to Dobbs, I'm not taking that chance this week. No, you cannot, you cannot start Dobbs. Even if he ends up with a good game because of his rushing ability and Justin Jefferson is there, you cannot start Dobbs because there is an equal chance. that he ends up with a negative fantasy day. Like, not bad. An actual negative, if he comes out and turns the ball over early and ends up with negative fantasy points, he's getting benched at that point. They've already looked at, like, it's just about not turning the ball over, and they have options to pivot off of. So Dobbs' range of outcomes is wide, but I cannot imagine, even in two quarterback leagues, that I would want to start him over most other QB2s and two and a halfs.

Yeah, I mean, Zeke, Madison, that was a decision for people. Hopefully you went Zeke. Hope you went Zeke, yeah. Madison has double-digit fantasy points one time in the last seven games. You know, Ty Chandler's going to be involved. Yep, and very disappointing. And, you know, the matchup's very good against the Raiders, but it is, it's tough to really predict the success of this Minnesota offense right now. Jefferson is returning, which throws into question your Jordan Addison situation. Yeah, it really does. Jordan Addison takes the biggest hit for me. He's going to the bench in most of the leagues where I have him. If there's a middling option, I'll usually be throwing him ahead. Now, the weather makes it a little bit nicer that this one you're not concerned with. But Justin Jefferson is the one, and Hawkinson will still get his tight-end looks. So I think Jordan Addison takes a massive hit. You agree, Mike? Yep, I do. Madison or...

Zach Charbonnet against the 49ers if he was healthy. You just play Madison? I think I go Madison that one. The other question is A.J. Dillon against the Giants or Madison. Currently, I have that decision in our dynasty league. I have A.J. Dillon in right now. Now, Aaron Jones returned to a limited practice yesterday. I think it was limited. So that could change things of how you feel. about your confidence in playing AJ Dylan. Because if Aaron Jones is back, then Dylan's workload. While I still think he will get more than Aaron Jones as Jones recovers, it's a much harder decision to play Dylan, who's in a great spot. But as of right now, I'm going Dylan over Madison. Josh Jacobs, Devante Adams are both in your lineup, right? Yeah. Is Michael Mayer in contention as a player, you know,

post by that has a chance to help fantasy rosters you know would you play like a michael mayor over the otten parham no i don't think so he hasn't done enough on the course of the season to believe that this is the week i i think he's got a bright future i think he'll be a great player but as a rookie tight end taking the normal not 2023 approach to rookie tight ends a matchup that on the course of the season Is top five scheduled adjusted against tight ends? This isn't the place. And you have Aiden O'Connell has, you know, since he, we got week nine through 12, so a month of time, 220 yards and less than a touchdown at game. And with Devante Adams and Jacobi Myers is, you know, getting worked in as well. I don't have the confidence right now for mayor. Seattle, six and six. They get the privilege going.

and playing the super on fire, San Francisco 49ers, who are 9 and 3, 11 point home favorites on the Draft King supporters, but the over under 47. San Francisco is just playing borderline perfect football right now. The health of their stars currently in a good place, McCaffrey, Debo, Ayuk, Kittle. All four of those guys, no question marks, right? Correct. No, no question marks at all. I mean, with Purdy. So you play everybody on San Francisco. Yeah, if there's a normal player that you play, you push them in your lineup. We just saw this matchup two weeks ago. This was a matchup in Seattle, where the Niners went in there and beat them down. Seattle did pretty much nothing offensively, and the 49ers did whatever they want offensively. Now it's a home game for them.

They're on fire. I mean, maybe you could argue like, oh, it's a trap. It's a letdown after such a big matchup against Philly, where they dominated. Maybe, you know, maybe they come in unprepared. But this is a divisional matchup. This is an important, you know, San Francisco is now in the running to secure the number one seed. I don't think there's a letdown here or a trap. I believe the 49ers take care of business in a serious way. I think it's worth a small moment to just talk about George Kittle because you've had seven of ten weeks inside the top ten at the position. You have, what I've seen when I watch these games with George Kittle is that you have kind of a defensive breakdown moment every game where Kittle benefits. And I'm looking at the box or the game log and I'm looking, you know, the long, right? His longest reception, 38, 28, 34, 66, 24, 32.

One play a game where the defense gets so overwhelmed trying to keep their eyes on everybody else that Kittle slips free, well-designed plays. Yeah, I watched a video breakdown from Emmanuel Ocho talking about how Kyle Shanahan draws these things up with the pre-snap, post-snap motion where George Kittle just every time is left accidentally forgotten. Well, yeah, and there's like fake blocks. You know, like Kiddle look like he's blocking, and then the defense is in man, and they follow him their offensive players down the field. And Kiddle just runs wild with the hair flying behind him. He's really been great. He has. His last bad game, though, was Seattle. Yeah. And Seattle plays a lot of zone coverage. Debo crushes zone. We saw that two weeks ago, seven for 79 plus 15.

rushing yards in that game. He was a top 10 wide receiver two weeks ago. On the other side of the ball, the complete opposite situation, like question marks up and down the entire lineup, you have no certainty at running back. You have no certainty at wide receiver. You know, we are making a decision in one of our leagues, you know, with Tyler Lockett, where it's, okay, we could go Lockett, we could go Dobbs, we could go Gabe Davis, we could go Gus Bus. None of us said Lockett. That's the tier that Tyler Lockett is in. And a tear goes down in your face. Yes, because that is not what you drafted Tyler Lockett to be. That's not what he's been for the last five years. If you want to start someone in this game, obviously it's going to be DK Metcalf. Metcalf had three touchdowns last week, was great. He's good enough to beat the Niners in general. Yeah, you don't want to be caught with him on the bench again.

No, and the Niners on the course of the season, they've shut down running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks, but where they get beat is the wider receiver position. So Debo, I think, is a fine play. Tyler Lockett is past his 31st birthday as well. So I do think there's a chance JSN is, I guess, really relevant for the fantasy playoffs, but this week it's going to be a tough one. Yeah, he's emerging 11 targets last week. I believe that was his season high. Wow. Yeah, Brooks, what did you say about Lockett? But it's saying on our start sit too on the website, he's been in there almost every week. It's a popular search, but he's not coming up at all this week. People are benching them. People have decided. Yeah, they've already moved on. We talked about the running backs. You just have to monitor that. If you're desperate and one of those two guys is starting, then certainly you have a starter. If both sit down, then DJ Dallas is like the punt of punts this week. Oh, yeah. Like they punted.

And then instead of catching the punt, that guy just punted it. You try to kick it back. Ooh, nice. I don't want this. Yeah. Return to Cinder. That would be awesome. That would be awesome to watch a punter. Get the ball just punt it away. So instead of a fair catch, it's a catch and punt? Yeah. Catch and punt. What is the end result? Is that a fumble? I think that would be a fumble, right? Yeah. What does the ref do? No, I think it's legal, right? Like, I don't think there would be a flag on the play. Are you glad to do that? I don't know for sure. I don't think you can't kick the ball unless it's on purpose. I'm just saying, like, let's say you're the Jets and you're like, well, we can't score on offense, but we could score on defense. When you give us the ball, let me try to. Instant. Instantly punt it back, play the field position game. Got to keep the defense on the field. Keep our defense on the field. All right. Quick break back with another matchup.

The Buffalo Bails at 6 and 6. Desperate times. But at least they get to travel to Arrowhead to play the Chiefs. Oh, man. Who are 8 and 4 coming off a loss. The D.K. Sportsbook line, look, Kansas City minus 1.5. Yeah. So I think in a normal season, you'd be probably looking at them as heavier favorites at home in this one. The overrunners 49 points. This is the lowest over under ever for a Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen game. It's still a very good over under. Like this isn't necessarily what we've seen in the past with monstrous back and forth affairs, you know, 38 to 24, 42 to 36, some of the matchups we've seen them play before. But on the course of this week, when you're targeting your start-sit decisions and the landscape of the rest of the NFL, this is a game you want pieces in. Yeah, second highest over under right now. No questions about the quarterbacks, though. You play Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen? Yep, yep.

Or maybe there are questions on the Mahomes side. No. You know, I think if you've got like Brock Hurdy, Brock Purdy and Mahomes, that's a question. But for the most part, Mahomes is going to be in your lineup. Let's turn to the wide outs first here. Stefan Diggs, of course you play him. I had the privilege of looking up the game log of Gabe Davis this morning. Who plays every snap of every game? Yeah. His last five games, guys, in our league. 19.2. Yeah, baby. That's awesome. Zero. Oh, that's not... 8.6. I will take that from... Zero. Oh, man, again. And then 19.5. Red light. Oh, shoot. So if he is fulfilling the every other goose... He can't. He can't. I mean, if he does, he's a legend. Yes. Yes. I mean, that is... That's archvillain stuff, man. That's, you know, everything says he should be...

involved in this game. I mean, you are, you've got digs that'll be lined up against their best corner. Yep. You've got two tight-in set returning with Dalton Knox full practice, be back out on the field with Dalton Kincaid. And Gabe Davis just over there hanging out, waiting for the ball. And Gabe Davis has had big games against the Chiefs in the past. So it's one of those situations where, like I'm putting Gabe Davis in my lineup in League of Record. Yeah, you petitioned us to put in Gabe Davis in our. Scotty Fish, which I think Mike and I are on the Romeo Dobbs side right now. Yeah, yeah, and that's fine, but I know it's hard to play Gabe Davis, and there is absolutely a chance you get Jack freaking squawk. That's the problem. Is it not, I'm going to, I might get only six points. It's, no, it's, I could get zero. It, it's, is it a game game or is it not?

Because if it's not, then they just don't, they're not throwing on the ball or he's not catching it and he's going to be basically worthless. So it's a matchup play. Like in our league of record, I am going up against last week's high score of the week, almost broke the all-time record. His team's on fire. Stupid, smelly, ugly, Papa Josh. His team's just better than mine. And so that's why I'm throwing Gabe Davis in there. That's what I meant to do a couple weeks ago against you, Andy, when you had the monstrous. early performance. If you need that nuclear option, it is Gabe Davis. And you have permission to throw them in your lineup. Turn both keys. Yeah. And launch that thing. And maybe it's a dud. If you're in an even battle, if you're a favor, that's where you want Gabe Davis on your bench. You don't need to have a knife wound on yourself going into a fight. A big favor. Dalton Kincaid, where are you guys? I want to know.

Did I say favor? You did. We just let it go. We just let it go. Well, we didn't. Well, Mike didn't, no. But me and Al were laughing. I want to know from people that don't have Dalton Kincaid what you actually expect because it was really, really good when Dawson Knox was out. He's a rookie tight in. There's been a theme this year. You've seen some contributions from those guys. Obviously, there are every other week you really need them when Gabe Davis isn't there. Sure. So, I mean, how confident would you be if Dalton Kincair was your only tight end heading into the fantasy playoffs? I would not be super confident heading into the fantasy playoffs. The last six weeks, this week, the chiefs have given up the fewest points of the tight end position. Would you play Najoku this week over him? Asking for a friend. Not this week. I think this week, the...