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The UDK is human-written, depending on how you classify the crew
The hosts announce a full staff-and-writer mock and call the UDK's 130,000 words human-written, then immediately qualify the word 'human' when naming Kyle, Betz, and the rest of the crew.
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Mike drafts with championship loyalty and precious-player attachment
Mike's double-championship history creates stated loyalty to Zay Flowers, and when Christian Watson is drafted away from him he calls Watson his sweet, sweet, precious Mr. Watson.
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The Tony Pollard pick destroys Mike's entire vibe
After the others persuade Mike with four consecutive thousand-yard seasons, he reluctantly takes Tony Pollard, calls the pick gross, and later says he hates it so much that it derailed a draft he had loved.
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Al's Snake Man video is armed in the wrong scene
Al queues a Snake Man visual for Mai Lemon in the wrong scene; the hosts explain the coming accidental trigger, it fails to appear, and when it finally plays they roast the rocking football and seconds-level workmanship.
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Al reports a mistake that never happened, then breaks his own mute rule
Al calls attention to an expected error that does not occur, admits the setup belonged in a private channel, and later leaves the production computer audible despite telling everyone to mute before every show.
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The archived Marlon Mack question returns
The final picks trigger an old sound-library exchange: 'How does this impact Marlon Mack?' followed shortly by the harsher archived response, 'You are an idiot.'
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Betz drafts himself into an eligibility hearing
Betz takes Omar Cooper in a way that prompts an immediate ban joke, and the hosts close the episode by scheduling a discussion about whether he may ever participate again because he 'went crazy.'
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Episode notes
The full staff joins a twelve-team mock, prompting a joke that the UDK's 130,000 human-written words count as human only if Kyle, Betz, and the crew do. Mike's personal roster history drives the comedy: he feels championship loyalty to Zay Flowers, calls Christian Watson his sweet precious Mr. Watson, gets talked into Tony Pollard, and immediately hates the pick. In Deucer's Alley, Al queues a Snake Man video in the wrong scene, cannot trigger it after the hosts explain the gag, reveals a visually questionable rocking football, and later calls out a mistake that never happened. The production computer is also accidentally left unmuted despite Al's ritual pre-show warnings. Betz drafts so aggressively that the hosts end by discussing whether he should ever be allowed back in a mock.
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. That was a little loud for me too, Mike. I liked it. >> It's a mock draft day, so just break their speakers. >> Take it up a notch. >> Tuesday, June 30th, mock draft episode. Andy, Mike, and Jason, the fantasy footballers with you. Al Borland, Papa Josh, and the Falcon also back there. And um yeah, we got a mock draft today. It'll be fun. We've got a full crew of
staff and writers helping us out on the mock draft. So, it'll be all real people and we'll see where we're at here at the end of June. >> I'm sure our teams will look fantastic >> or bad. >> Is this a eight eight uh >> eight team league? >> No, it's not. It's uh 12 team 12 team league. >> But um we'll get into that. Ultimatraftkit.com if you want to check that out. all of our sleepers, breakouts, bus values, player projections, uh, stat projections for every single player in the entire fantasy football world. 130,000 words of original content written by human
beings. Uh, if that's what you call Kyle and Betts and the rest of this crew. U, but no, it it is uh it's the number one resource for getting ready for draft day. That's what this mockdraft's about today as well. And uh you can find us over on X at the FF ballers if you want to follow us there. Jason's at Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. Mike is at FFHitman. >> Yep. Still no mike. >> No, your name is the problem. Your name is too >> I I remind my parents. >> They shouldn't have called you Mike. >> Yeah. It's like boring.
>> No, you should have been like >> Muel. It's better. I don't know. You You like that more? >> It's I mean it's got a little more fle or fla flavor. >> Flavor. >> I don't know. >> Quick question of the day. Eli, who's a player that you won't target at your draft, but you'll try to trade for later on. >> Mine I I'll start cuz mine's sad >> because we haven't really talked I think a ton about the New England Patriots running back situation. Uh I've I've talked about Henderson on Dynasty on the Dynasty podcast. just um I am a little concerned and the draft
community is not of Trayvon Henderson is going in the middle of the fourth on Sleeper. You had his breakout. It was awesome. It was our hopes and dreams felt like they were being f fulfilled for a couple games and then Raandre came back and they were like, "Yeah, we like Raandre Stevenson a whole lot." So the the disparity >> so this is acceptance from you in a lot of ways. >> It is it is like you know because when it's a rookie and it's like I I think Henderson is just so much better than Raandre Stevenson. >> Well thank you Chase. Thank you.
>> Add some stuff for sure. >> It is unfortunately it it becomes this thing where it's like you have to disparage Raandre. >> That's it. Yeah. >> And it's >> the poor guy. He was good. Raandre like Raandre had a very good year and he's still going to be super involved. And the ADP market difference between Hendo and Raandre for a time share that could see Raandre as the leader if if if nothing else, it's just a time share and Randre could could soak up a bunch of the touchdowns. Uh just in the fourth round plus the first three games, at
least compared to uh last year's strength of schedule, it's tougher. like it it's a tough three games for the running back position for fantasy scoring. So I like Henderson's really not on my draft board where he is at ADP if I you know hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully they they end up unleashing Henderson with some volume in those first three games. But even with the volume, it might be harder for him to get going. >> Yeah, I I don't think you're going to be able to trade for I'm I'm on the Henderson side. I I believe that he overtakes Raandre this year now that
he's not a rookie and and um they need more out. They're going to be playing tougher teams. They're not just going to be winning every game all the time. And I I think that they're going to need Henderson on the field. So I expect him to get off to a hot start. I've got a similar pick in mind. The guy that I feel like >> So are you good with Hendo's ADP? >> I am fine with it because I actually think he's going to succeed. he's going to get, you know, 60% of the work >> out in the gate. >> They've uh
>> the drum beat has not been that direction. >> No. >> Over this offse plenty of time. >> I always debate these situations cuz they're just not >> they're not the same player at all. >> They're just very different players. So, it's like when when it's like, ah, he's going to replace Raandre. I'm like, how do you do that? >> You could get more work than you got last year. That's fine. But like this, the team in no way, shape, or form looks at this as like, well, there's one, it's one guy's job right now, and then somebody else could
take that job. It's just like it's two guys job right now. >> Yeah. And it will continue to be two guys job. The the the trajectory I see is identical. We've we've said this before, but it's it's the Lions, it's the Gibbs, and David Montgomery. You know, I love David Montgomery. I think Raandre Stevenson's a good player, but eventually if one guy is able to have more explosive plays, you just have to get him a little bit more work, a little bit more work. We saw that year two of Gibbs. We saw that year three of Gibbs. It's just like eventually you get to
this point where it's like ah he's he's got to be on the field >> that that could happen. And you you brought it up like we had a question I think on the footcast about if we had to choose sleepers, breakouts, busts and values of teams in the NFL. And one of the bust names that came up was this, you know, was New England. Like do you have it Super Bowl losers? They have a hard time getting back. They had a great schedule last year. Sometimes it was held against them, but they they executed within what they were given and
they dominated. >> The opening schedule, just to expand on it, for the Patriots on the road against Seattle at home against Pittsburgh. Okay. Road Jacksonville, road Buffalo. Like that's >> it's a tough start. So that's where you could Yeah, you could see trading for him. Jason and I both have picks that are >> rookies. Yeah, I mean that it's pretty common for rookies to get off to a slow start, but I I've got Jeremiah Love. We talked about him on last episode as you know whether his ADP was too hot to handle. We talked about he's probably going to finish the year as a as a running back
one, but I think the process is going to be very aggravating in the beginning. I think he will feel like a bust pick those first couple of weeks. I don't expect him to get the lion share. I don't expect him to get the the goal line and and basically if you're going to pick someone that's like I think I'll be able to trade for them cuz obviously whoever drafts Jeremiah Love, they're going to think I'm in it for the long haul. Same with Henderson, it's got to be really bad. It's got to start where you're like, I made a mistake. And I
think that could happen with Jeremiah Love where you come out the gates and week one he gets 10 touches and you're like, oh no, what did I do with this, you know, early pick? I do fully expect by the end of the year for Jeremiah Love to be dominant. So, if you could trade for him a month into the season because expectations have been low or something like that, but we we discussed him more in detail. You know, if you want to go back to Thursday's episode, >> the name I brought up, a player you won't target in the draft, but you might
trade for later on is Jordan Tyson, wide receiver for the Saints for a myriad of reasons. I mean, one, I just feel like there's a lot of question marks in New Orleans in general. I'm not as convinced as Mike is, and I don't know if Jason's in that camp that Shuck will work out to the degree that would support two wide receivers this year. I hope he does. I like the player, I'm not positive. I'm not positive that Jordan Tyson is healthy. Um I'm not positive that Chris Olaf is going to be healthy, but if he is and he's out there and he's the one,
can Jordan Tyson be enough on the other side? Maybe. So, there's a lot of may here. And then rookie wide receivers also take some time um to get going as well. So I feel like if I see some signs at the beginning of the season, especially like they start against a couple of really difficult opponents. I mean talk about >> Tyler Shuck, >> you're probably you're probably not looking good after two weeks. >> Detroit Baltimore to start on the road in both seven point underdogs in both. Then it gets easier. But I just feel like Tyson's definitely not somebody I'm
looking to take in drafts. I do like taking rookie wide receivers late if they fall to me and they're out of value, but I'm not targeting Tyson in particular. >> Yeah, I think that's fair. I I two other names just to throw out. We we discussed them recently, but the the tight ends coming off of injuries, the the KD and and Craft is >> it's going to be harder though everyone because everyone's going to be in on that strat. >> Sure. But I mean, trade for or maybe even pick off off of waiverss. There's there's a world that exists where if
they get off to a really bad start, you just you can't keep those guys in your starting lineup if it looks like they're not great. But if that happens and they are either on the trade, you know, they're they're, you know, on the trade board or they're hitting waiverss, I will pick them up. I expect both to have good second half of the year, good second halves of the year. >> Close enough. Yeah, we'll just go with it. Um, yeah, both of those guys I think are gonna get we're gonna get steamed up. We're gonna get excited. >> Yeah, they'll get steamed
>> because what they represent. I think they'll be drafted and if they're drafted, they'll be drafted by people that want to hold on to them and play them when they get better. >> Yeah. So, maybe home leagues. >> Um, I think we're going to take a quick break now. So, we're un uninterrupted in our mock draft for a while. So, uh, we'll do that and jump right in. Let's do it. >> The Fantasy Footballers mock draft. Okay, here we go. Uh we're doing a 12 team half PPR with three starting wide receivers today. So, the roster will be a quarterback, two running backs, three
wides, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots. Uh, we have the three of us. Jason's at five in the draft. Mike is at seven. I'm at 11. These are randomly assigned. We also have Julia, Kyle, Matt, Jeremy, Britney, Kurt, Brooks, Betts, and Josh drafting with us today. >> And uh, we'll jump right in because you know the three-wide strategy as we get this thing >> kicked off. Jamar Chase ends up going number one followed by Jir Gibbs, Puka Nakua, and Bejan Robinson. So, we go wide receiver, running back, back and forth. Jason is the first of the three of us on the
clock here. Uh, it is three wide. What What are your >> considerations at the moment? in a three- wide. I'm if you're at the five, six spot, you're you've got the opportunity to take one of these guys, Alman Raw, uh CD Lamb, or the the pick that will be for most people, uh JSN, last year's, you know, number one wide receiver. I'll I'll take uh JSN here. Getting a stud in a guaranteed three wide. This is this is one of those formats where if you're playing three wide plus a flex. We talked about this on a recent episode. The statistics just
say you need a lot more wide receivers on your roster once you get to the flex. However, in some of those leagues when you start that heavy, you're you're still going to have to have depth at running back. So, we'll see how it plays out. >> JSN to Jason at number five overall. Almanra St. Brown goes at six. Mike is on the board. This is uh >> Are you already in a tough situation here? >> I I was hoping that that Almond Raw would drop. So, because at the running back, it's it's Taylor, McCaffrey, Cookh. Are they strong and secure enough when I
need the the wide receiver position? I'm going to I'm going to take C Lamb. I'm going to try my build out here. Uh I I just I feel like where I am at the in the draft if I take the running back I'm going to >> you'll be a tear down at wide receiver you're unhappy with. >> But that's why you mock draft cuz we'll find out. >> Yeah, I'm actually kind of excited to be at 111. I haven't drafted this late in any of our mocks yet. >> Uh I assuming you know I get a quick turn. If I want to split this and give
myself flexibility going into the third and fourth round, I can do that. Jonathan Taylor still on the board. Devon Achan still on the board. Um, at in terms of the wide receiver tiers, I see a tear break there. I mean, AJ Brown, I love I think he belongs at the tippy top of these drafts, but then I see it, you know, him and Drake London are kind of the end of that tier. Maybe Nico Collins is in it, but beyond that, the names are just a step down to me. So, I am going to pull the trigger. I'm happy with Taylor. I'm happy with happy
with a Chan. I'm happy with James Cook. I'm gonna get one of I'm gonna get one of those guys. I'm actually going to do this though. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull the trigger on AJ Brown in the first. >> I to me he is just going to be a target monster there. >> And I'm hoping to acquire him in every league I can before everyone catches up to how good it's going to be. Uh so >> I completely agree with you. >> Yeah, I I think it's going to be great. It may not be more than a year, but I
think it's going to be great this year. Drake London and Jonathan Taylor go next, which is great. I mean, I think being at 12 there and getting London and Taylor is perfect. Um, are we half PPR? >> Yes, >> man. I do love Devon Achan. James Cook has been a machine. He's He's This is a player versus team situation decision. I'm gonna take James Cook. Um, I I saw some offensive line ratings this morning and uh, you know, Devon Achan, Chase Brown, those guys are dealing with bottom five offensive lines. So, I will I will take the offense that has run
through James Cook for a number of years and go James Cook to pair with uh, AJ Brown. So, I'll just stay in the AFC East. Omar and Hampton goes next. In fact, we have not seen a Chan off the board yet. >> Oh, man. Hampton at 203, Devonte Smith at 204 and then Ashen Genty goes at 205. So Kurt taking two running backs. Same thing Betts did. Um scooping up value I think is the perspective there. When you are in a three wide and some wide receivers are going earlier, they're grabbing what they think are tear breaks at running back.
>> But Mike, you're on the clock. You have to stare down the two names I just said, which is funny. >> Devon Han and Chase Brown, who you believe in. Chase Brown a ton. Uh, Han, Chase Brown, Kenneth Walker all being there. >> Oh man, how does the man choose the real choice here? >> Is Sophia cuz we're adding a third name in here. >> Uh, and at the wide receiver position, Nico's there. Olive, go George. Just go full DGF and just get the Dallas Cowboys. >> Uh, I will snipe Dak from you. We we get to where it's coming. I will
not let you get down. >> Third round D. >> There are players that like Mike actively hates other people drafting >> because he didn't get to draft them. >> Yeah, that is >> and they're all sitting right here. >> That is true. That Achan being there is really >> I mean that is >> a wrench in the >> That is like such the easy pick for me if I'm in your situation. >> Yeah. >> But I feel like you feel like you're betraying Chase Brown somehow by doing that. I do also feel like that, but I'm going to take Achan.
>> I mean, that is a great start. Lamb and Achan. >> Chase Brown does go next. >> Yes, >> I was >> the full Brown team for uh >> Oh, am Chase Brown. >> I was very much wanting one of those two guys. I think there's a huge tier break here. I know Mike, you might disagree. You might put Kenneth Walker in that tier. >> I don't have Kenneth Walker as bullishly as a running back one. So, there's a tier break to the rest of my running backs and I feel like there's one wide receiver left in his own tier in Nico