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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - PPR Mock Draft, Fantasy News & Notes

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Rumors of Foster to the Chargers. I wonder when he signed someplace, what the thought process will be. Like, do you, because in your mind with the impact he had on fantasy football, are people going to buy into Aryan Foster as a, you know, because he's not going to walk into a starting job? No, certainly not.

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a full-time role like he had in the Texans. Yeah. So it would be interesting whether he looks like a value. I mean, it never seemed like Aryan slowed down on the field. It was slowing down through injury, but on the field, he always looked extremely effective. So if he could come back, now it's a hard injury to recover from. And let's, did you have something you wanted to add on Foster? The only thing I was going to say is I see him just being a homewrecker here for a... If you draft early, if you're in a league where you draft early and then...

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Wherever Aryan goes, you know, people talking about Jay Ajay or Melvin Gordon or, you know, these teams like this, Jeremy Langford, if all of a sudden Arian Foster shows up, then it's like, ah, crap. I found this memo. It was signed to Arian Foster, and it's actually from the people of Philadelphia, and they say, we don't want you here.

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So Foster, don't go to Philadelphia. As the Ryan Matthews owner. So let's talk real quick. Last bit of news. Josh Gordon, so much hope and optimism earlier in the offseason. We were all big fans of what he can do when he's on the field, which everybody should be. However, being on the field is a troublesome task for Mr. Gordon. What is the latest you're hearing about Gordon's situation in Cleveland now, Mike? Well, there is news is coming out. ESPN Browns reporter Pat.

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McMahon believes that the draft that the Browns had indicate that they're willing to move on from Josh Gordon so that even if he comes back, maybe they release him or they try to trade him. It's easy to connect the dots and say you drafted four wide receivers. Clearly they're not planning on having Gordon there. That being said, you could also connect the dots and say, well, that means that you see wide receiver as a big...

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need for your team. And then if Josh Gordon comes back, you're just going to say, you know, we've had enough. And also, you know, the guys that they targeted, they were high character guys. You can argue back and forth on Gordon. I think if Gordon comes back, he plays for the Browns. I'm less and less confident that he's going to be able to play this here. All right. Before we jump into our mock drive, now we're doing a PPR mock. That is correct. Is that right? A three wide receiver PPR mock draft today. So you will get to hear.

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our opinions and thought process as we walk through this draft and we're doing it at fantasy draft wizard.com. But before we jump into that, I do want to take a second and thank a new sponsor to today's show.

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And so it's like a family event for us now. And so tell me about your experience. Well, when I had a, I got to cook a pork tobacco. It's this Asian dish, or a Korean dish, I believe. And look, when this thing was done, Foot Clan, I'm not kidding you. It looked like I drove down to the latest Asian bistro and I picked something up. But I actually made it myself. I made it for my wife on Mother's Day. And it was just a spectacular event. And not only did it look great.

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This was one of the best dishes I've eaten. It was fantastic. We're going to get healthy around here. Yeah, and it's healthy for you. Fresh ingredients, like we said. They taste better. They're better for you. And it's important to know where your food comes from. They only ship from the local farms, over 150 local farms. Incredible produce. And when you cook with your family, you spend more time together. And I like that. I'll post a picture of my son.

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All right, let's do it, guys. Let's get started here. Fantasydraftwizard.com is our preferred mock draft headquarters. It just makes it easy. These shows of ours are famous. If I could tutute toot for a second. One of the things we like doing about this mock draft and the reason we do it, as opposed to reviewing a mock.

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We actually take you through a live mock while we're doing it so that you can hear our or see, if you're on YouTube, our thought process. And the conversations that go on in our own head as to why would we take this guy? Why wouldn't we take this guy? Who are we waiting on? Who are we passing? So it's kind of neat. It's not just a review to where you say, here's who we got, but here's why we got them.

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All right, so let's get it started here. We have a 12-team league. We're going to draft. We randomize that we're going to draft from the 5-spot. And it is a PPR league, like we said, with three wide receivers. So let's go ahead and kick this thing off, and I'll let you know exactly who gets drafted first. And in this draft, we've got Antonio Brown coming off the board. At number one, Levion Bell, number two. Julio Jones went number three.

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Surprise. Whoa, David Johnson. Number four. I don't mind that in PPR, but the fact that at the fifth spot, we had the guy that I am pretty sure we're going to draft fall to us in a three. Keep in mind, this is a three wide receiver PPR league. So wide receivers are extraordinarily important in here. And my actual, you know, I guess he's standard number one, but PPR, my number two wide receivers on the board. And you should say his name. It's O'Dell Beckham Jr.

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Absolutely. So you're telling me, Beckham's your number one, and standard? In standard right now. Oh, I find that interesting. So Antonio Brown, Lev Bell, Julio Jones, David Johnson, and I guess I will agree with you guys, and I'll go with Odell Beckham. Is there anyone else you would actually consider here in a three wide receiver PPR? No. Okay. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. You know, Gurley's on the board, obviously. He's a high pick. He's going to go soon after.

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But I think Odell Beckham at five is incredible value. Let me ask you this, because I assumed when I heard we were in a three wide receiver picking at five that we would be, you know, the top three wide receivers would be off the board. Right. So we're looking at maybe a running back, but in a league where wide receivers are so important, if the top four wide receivers were gone and we had the option of Levi-on-Bell there, would you have gone Levi-on-Bell or still taken another big stud? I would have taken Levy on Bell.

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Myself. Levian Bell versus what wide receivers now? I'm sorry, I was looking forward to the next pick. Versus the DeAndre Hopkins and, you know, after the- After the big three? Yeah. Oh, I would take, I would take Lev Bell right now. All right. All right. So we did take Odell Beckham Jr., first pick off the board for us. DeAndre Hopkins went at the sixth spot and then Grankowski, Gurley Charles, Peterson, Lamar Miller, and Des Bryant, rounding out the first round. Okay. Flipping to the second round, we got Devonte Freeman, Mike Evans, Alan Robinson, Ezekiel Elliott. Easy E.

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Off the board at number four. Moving up. What do you think? At 2.4. Oh, that's a great spot for me. I don't have a problem with it. Okay. Now, he went ahead of A.J. Green. Jordy Nelson, Sammy Watkins. I think that's about the right spot for Zique. I think Sammy Watkins that high in a PPR with some of the receivers left that I'm looking at. What did he have a 60-something catches last year? Yeah. Watkins is an efficiency player to me and a touchdown score. I don't consider him one of the top PPR guys.

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So now we're at our second pick with Odell Beckham Jr. on our roster. And there are options. I think the two positions we're looking at here are still wide receiver. You do have Jordan Reed on the board in the second round here, obviously. And then you've got Mark Ingram, Doug Martin, Eddie Lacey, LaShawn McCoy. Is there anybody else that pops out as, you know, wide receivers left are Jeffrey and Marshall, Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen?

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Yeah, I'll let Jason give his thoughts because I have some strong thoughts here. I guess when it comes to this spot, what I would be doing, I'm clearly going with one of those two positions. And what I would be looking at is, of those two positions, which one do I think will still have a guy I really, really like it? Our next pick, which one is less likely? And then I would go from that position. So for the wide receivers, you got Alshan Jeffrey, Brandon Marshall, Mari Cooper.

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And this is PPR, so Keenan Allen as well. Those four guys, I think, are great. I would be happy with any one of those. I'd be happy taking any one of those at this pick. Running back, Mark Ingram, I think would be fantastic. You saw him get involved in the passing game. Eddie Lacey, Lashon McCoy. So you've got three. It's about even there. And if it's even, we've got one wide receiver. We don't have a running back yet.

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I think... So let's hear what Mike's thoughts are on the pick. I'm curious. I completely agree with there are a handful of receivers with Jeffrey, Marshall, Cooper, and Allen, who I would love to take here. But I have Mark Ingram valued so highly, especially in PPR. Like Jason was saying, 60 catches, I believe, in his 12 games, 50 or 60. And that just elevates him.

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to another level compared to the rest of the running backs with touchdown potential. Kyrie Robinson is gone. I don't think you'll see Tim Hightower vulturing too much at the goal line. So I love Mark Ingram here with the hopes that Keenan Allen will make it back. Yeah, 50 receptions on 60 targets last year, 400 yards receiving. I'm fine with Ingram. I'm fine with the thought process that, you know, I would love Brandon Marshall here.

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I mean, don't get me wrong. If I put Brandon Marshall on 109 catches with O'Dow Buckham Jr's catch totals. You think he hits 109 with Gino Smith? It's funny because Brandon Marshall came out. Did you see his quote? I did not. We would be okay without Ryan Fitzpatrick. Oh, Marshall. Ouch. Marshall. Just punch him in the junk. He's been one of Fitzpatrick's biggest allies, but for him to come out and say that, it's the first time I had an inkling that I might be wrong, which obviously I won't be, and Fitzpatrick will be back. We'll be back.

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But that was the first time I thought about the possibility of being wrong. All right, let's go with Ingram. Let's go with Ingram and move on. I'm not sure Marshall can hit the 109. Oh, Keenan Allen. My man. So we obviously were flipping back pretty quickly to our third round pick here. Jeffrey, Cooper, Marshall, and Martin went right after us. And then Keenan Allen led off the third round. Good value there, in my opinion, in a PPR league.

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Demarius Thomas. And here's Duke Johnson. That's a hot draft take there. Duke Johnson, the third pick of the third round. Is Duke Johnson undervalued? Duke Johnson is definitely undervalued when it comes to PPR draft. The third round, no way would I do it? No way. But let me look up his catch total because he was also among. Wasn't he in the 70s? He was among the league leaders. I believe he was in the 60s.

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I am confirming it right now. So Duke went third. He went a pick before Eddie Lacey in a PPR just now. And Eddie Lacey fell to the middle of the third round. 61 receptions on 74 targets. Okay. Keep in mind, Duke Johnson did not have a single catch in weeks one or two. So that total can even go up. All right. So Duke Johnson, that's a reach. Yeah, it is going to be somebody who.

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is undervalued, especially in redraft leagues, I would think, but if he's flying off the board here, just so everybody's aware on fantasy draftwizard.com, we're not drafting against live other selections right now. We're drafting against a composite ADP, which is average draft position, from multiple websites. So Yahoo and some others that have their average draft position for players, and we're drafting against that composite ADP.

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