Fantasy Football - Week 4 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Marv Madness - Podcast for 9/26

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I'm going to hit the record button today because I did not want to have the overflow of all of last night's activities from the Thursday Night Football game. I just didn't want to have those conversations off the air. We walk in the door. I want to make sure that we get to have those conversations right here, right now, because last night's game was outrageous. What was that? Yeah, I mean, it was... Stupid. It was a roller coaster. It was a... I thought I would come in here today. I'd already thought about this. We get three quarters into the game. Marvin Harrison has caused two overt interceptions,

looked incompetent on route concepts, looked like a man who had had every ounce of confidence siphoned out of him. That was a broken man. Yeah. Completely broken man who was... And the Cardinals' offense as a... I mean, it's very clear, and it makes perfect sense. Without Marvin Harrison, this offense is horrific. Like, without that functioning as part of Arizona, you can't just throw underneath the training right. It was so easy for the defense of Seattle to not worry about playing anything over the top, no big threats, nothing on the outside. I mean, God bless Michael Wilson and whoever that new guy was that I've never seen before.

That is funny. I literally... Weaver? Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, I don't know you. I was listening to the very... I was on the radio... Xavier Weaver. ...from the very beginning of the game, and when I heard Weaver's out loud, I was like, oh, so the Seahawks are... Yeah, you're like... They have the ball. Wait, who is Weaver? So through three quarters, and I was at... I'm taking my son, and he's got like a sports thing, and I'm watching the game at an Outback. Not a sponsor. I was with Papa Josh. We're watching the game. Papa Josh is like, oh, you traded for Marvin.

You have the best luck in the world. He's going to go off. Yeah, it didn't really look that way for about three quarters. I mean, it was immediate. There was an immediate... Marv stopped on a route, and I don't know if he would have... What would have happened had he not stopped? He might have stopped the pick. He might have, but he stopped his route, and it was a pass right to the defender because Marv was not there, and it was like, no way. No way. That just happened immediately. And then it got worse. Way worse. Cardinals are driving. A Kyler perfect pass to Marv's hands

where he caught the ball and then was like, ah, I forgot how to... It's like the popcorn, the lady holding the popcorn just moving the thing in the lobby. So you're... And this is all on... You know, this is an island game. This is primetime television. As a Cardinal fan, I thought I was going to come in here and stare at this and just have a moment of just... You're the broken man. It almost made me violently ill. Yeah. Like, I was nauseous with how embarrassing this performance was. And then... Then the fourth quarter happened. Then the fourth quarter happens.

Marvin Harrison catches a... Really good. It was a fantastic... Touchdown catch over their best defensive back. And he puts... You could see the relief... Yeah. ...on his face. I've never, ever, in the 20 years of watching NFL, seen a man catch a touchdown, down two scores, and take a knee to cry. I don't know if tears came, but it was clearly an overwhelming emotional moment. I like to think he's crying the cat out. Oh. That's my hope. Just leak the cat out the eyes. There really is hope because of that... The fourth quarter. Yeah. The fourth quarter actually gives you hope

for Marvin Harrison Jr. I'm playing Mike in fantasy. So... Mike told me that when I went into the fourth quarter, my team's projection was 77 points. Yeah. Because Kyler had a point. Marv had a point. I ended with like 104 point projection. Your projection has... is up almost 30 points. It was... Because the fourth quarter gets going. Kyler rips off a 30-yard run. Yeah, that was nice. And I'm like, oh, goodness gracious. And you are in this place of... You want the Cardinals to succeed. It's a weird thing. So I... When you're... When you're watching a football game and you're playing fantasy football,

there's four quarters, everyone. And I know we all want to react to the three quarters like, okay, just call it. It's done. Through three quarters, I was living my best life. Two... My two main leagues, one of them against the Marv stack, the other playing Owl in our main dynasty against JSN and Trey Benson. JSN has done nothing. And then the fourth quarter happens and all these guys are just scoring points nonstop. So let the whole game play out before we make our final decisions on what has happened. It really is a microcosm of all of society's ills. We have...

Immediate reaction. We want to call it in the third. Yeah, I mean, I tweeted. I mean, I think I ping-ponged between best team on earth, worst team on earth, best team on earth, worst team on earth. The summary of this game, Arizona ends up scoring with 28 seconds left, not kicking the ball into the landing zone, giving the Seahawks the ball at the 40, bing, bang, boom. I mean, it was... Game's over. Jason was so frustrated with clock management. Because it was... It was unacceptable. It was amateur Bush League clock management. You were under two minutes left in the game

on their 30-yard line. Like, you're not not getting the touchdown and then stopping them with two timeouts left and then getting the ball back. Like, this is your only chance to win the game is this drive. You're in the 30. There's two minutes left. You're on the other side of the two-minute and they're doing a hurry-up. Yeah. Oh, they're doing a hurry-up. We got to make sure we got as much time left on the clock as possible. For what? For the other team to have a chance? If you go score, you know they get the ball, right? Freaking idiots. I was so frustrated.

There was a point after the two-minute mark when they were doing the hurry-up. Now, the hurry-up was working for them on offense, so I got that part. But there was a point where it's like almost somebody called down from the Madden booth. There was like someone that called down because all of a sudden they were taking time. Yes. Well, they got close enough. They got like inside the 10 and they're like, oh, guys. Guys, did you know they're going to get the ball if we score? We should run the ball. Like, yeah, thank you. Also, make sure you don't put

your best running back on the field when you want to run the ball. Well, you want to know why though, right? Please. I know you guys were kind of in love with my Dynasty team. Trey Tucker, Hunter Henry, Kareem Hunt, Jelik Kyle Manor. I played Imari DiMarcato last night. Oh, my goodness. You got a touchdown. And I got a touchdown. It's so stupid. I don't want to... We have eight matchups to get through. We have so much to talk about. But I need to talk about the other side of this coin here. You know, Kyler ends up okay. Marvin, good game.

Six for 66 and a touchdown. Morgan on pace. By the way, I am really like on a human level. I'm so happy for Marvin to have that moment. Sure. Because I really did feel for him. Like this... If you end that game the way the first three quarters go, this is just... It's a lot. And I don't know how recoverable that is. He would probably retire. But... Before you jump to the other side, the... Trey Benson, and if you played him last night, I know you're disappointed. As an Arizona Cardinal fan, I was disappointed they didn't go back to him more.

He ended up 8 for 35 on the ground. 5 for 19 through the air. He has juice. I like the five catches. And he can make something happen. And I think much, much better things are going to happen for Trey Benson very soon. I don't think he played a single, like, two-minute dream. No, he's not the two-minute guy, which is a huge problem for fantasy football. But he is talented, and he was used in the James Conner role. So he will be a valuable running back two most of the time. And if by the end of the year he can kind of get involved

in the two-minute drill because he's obviously got the passing chops, then he'll be able to squeak his way to a running back one. I also want to talk about my thoughts on... our thoughts on Kenneth Walker. He's very good. Kenneth Walker is... is the best, worst player ever. Totally agree. He really, really... Totally agree. Like, on an... The disconnect between fantasy and reality on Kenneth Walker is so extreme because if you watch Kenneth Walker, nobody... Like, you can say, oh, Zach Charbon, he doesn't... He got stuffed at the line. Kenneth Walker's like, got 20, lost seven. Got 25, lost five.

This guy is... And then he had the bad penalty, the mental mistake there. Yeah. But it's like, he is simultaneously the best and dumbest player I've ever seen. Yeah. He's always trying to break the bigger run and costing his team... I think there were three or four separate times they were in second and 15, second and 16 because of Ken Walker. Yeah. 100%. I mean, that's why they're happy when they give the ball to Charbonnet and he gets two yards because it's like, ha, ha, ha. All right. Positive. It's... What's weird about it is... I don't disagree. There's so many runs

where you're like, dude, what's going on? But the problem is he's too good. Like, when he runs and he gets stuffed. Like, Charbonnet just goes... Falls down. Kenneth Walker bounces off of people and you're like, your job is to stay on your feet but it ends up costing them. I'm not disagreeing with that but it's just, it's so funny to me of his talent level to keep his balance and stay up costs him yards because he bounces backwards. I mean, I agree. Charbonnet had another... He had a touchdown last night. He had a second one called back. If I walked away from that game,

do I want to trade more for Ken Walker or Charbonnet? It's actually Charbonnet for me. Ken Walker looked great on certain plays. It's going to be weird all year is my opinion on that one. JSN was getting shut out. Ends up four for 79. You saw some flashes from Elijah Arroyo in this game. Yeah. AJ Barner had a touchdown. Cooper Cup and Torrey Horton pretty much nothing from them. Horton had a real chance at a big touchdown opportunity. They were mostly playing 12 personnel. Yeah, you were talking about that. For the people who are like, oh, Torrey Horton... Because he's not on the field

because their plan was we need to have two tight ends out there. Which is also... I mean, it's why Torrey Horton was a little bit of a question mark on adding him because Cooper Cup's not going away. All right. We are going to move on. Put Clan Friday. All right. The weekly giveaway winner for our Foot Clan Friday segment this week, a $100 gift card to FantasyChamps.com goes to Happy Campers. Happy Campers from JoinTheFoot.com. Congratulations. Happier campers now. Yeah. $100 happier. All right. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Jaden Daniels.

Uh-oh. Not spotted at practice on Friday after a limited session on Thursday. The game opened at Washington minus three. It is now Atlanta minus one and a half. Yeah. Four and a half point swing means the quarterback has changed. And I don't think that we should be expecting Daniels to be the starting quarterback, which makes Marcus Mariota a fine pickup and stream option. Bill Krosky didn't practice? Yeah. He didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday with a sore knee. We are getting reports. They're filtering in right now that he is on the field. Just to hang out or are we doing some football?

Well, the latest report I'm seeing here is Ja'Cory Krosky is on the practice field. They're doing special teams work. So right now he's not doing much. So it's a... What do I do? We still don't know. We still don't know what's going on with this. Bill! We need more out of you. It's hard to make the great Chuck Norris jokes when you... Whoa! What's a Chuck Norris joke? Whoa! What are you even talking about? What is that? It's a Bill Krosky joke. I don't even know who that was. Oh, Bill. Get on the field. So if Bill's not there, how...

Should we be bullish on Chris Rodriguez? Probably. Volume anyways. Yeah. Terry McLaurin did not practice either. Not spotted on Friday and pretty sure Terry McLaurin is not going to play football. No. Everything that is being reported right now is that there's good news for Terry McLaurin. He isn't going to need surgery. So I... I mean, when the news is breaking like, hey, he's gotten like eight opinions and he's not getting surgery, it really seems like he's not going to play. But you're right. Tucker Kraft then played. Yeah. I don't... I think Terry's not going to play. Just saying of the...

Yeah. The reporting is being real weird right now. Well, they... Yeah. We're just hopeful it's not going to be long-term for him. Well, this sentence doesn't make sense. It can't possibly mean what it says. Bucs wide receiver Chris Godwin did not practice Wednesday after being a full participant on Wednesday. I believe it was Thursday. Did not practice Thursday. But it... Part of his ramp-up process. That's what it sounded like. So, okay. Like, monitor Chuba because he was added to the injury report on Thursday. He was... Like, he practiced limited, but he was added with a calf injury, never like a later week

new addition to the injury report. Is that a... Maybe pick up Rico? Yeah, you might want to insure yourself, sure. Uh, what else do we have, guys? The Devontae Adams. Hasn't practiced Wednesday or Thursday with the hamstring. As a veteran, I'm still not... Like, I still think there's a chance he's fine and they're just going to manage it, but you don't like to see it. No, you'd like to... You need at least a limited today. Yeah, Wednesday I don't give two farts about, but missing a Thursday entirely is... It's not good. He wouldn't be doing that if he was healthy,

right? Like, he's not just completely not practicing Thursday for rest. Juwan Jennings did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. If Jennings were to miss again, Demarcus Robinson will be playing football this week. Potentially with Brock Purdy. He did not suffer an injury. He was suspended. Looked good in preseason. Very capable, dart throw type of player. Yeah, 100% available. Yeah. Still not rostered in a single league. Well, he's in one. My dynasty league, baby. Yeah. You know he's scoring. Oh, he's your best player. He's probably my best player. 2-0 last week. Xavier Worthy, full participant on Wednesday and Thursday. Justin Fields,

full participant on Thursday. Seems like Justin Fields will start on Monday. Yeah, that's usually what happens and we won't know. We should know by Sunday, but when they are ramping up and progressing through the practice schedule like they have to do in order to clear concussion protocol, usually that means they'll clear. That was News Notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company. Affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. All right, into the forecast we go. Fantasy Forecast presented by PrizePix. All right, we covered the Vikings,

Steelers, Commanders, Falcons, Saints, Bills, Browns, Lions, Panthers, Patriots, Chargers, Giants, Eagles, Buccaneers on yesterday's show. We'll start here. Ew. That's where we're starting? Well, yeah, we are because we are fighting. That's what 0-6 means to me. We're fighting for our first win of the season. Tennessee at 0-3, Houston at 0-3. Vegas line, Houston minus 7 over under 39.5. You don't usually see a minus 40 with a team favored by a full touchdown. That means the Titans are projected for 16 points on the road against a very good Houston Texans defense. Yeah, play the Houston D. For sure. Cam Ward, the lowest completion percentage

in the NFL right now, 15 sacks taken in three games. On pace to take a record amount of sacks. No, come on, man. Yeah. He doesn't look good. I remember after week one, there was like mixed kind of mixed signals. Yeah, it was like some people were saying Cam looked so good and I was like, I feel like we watched different. He did not look good. He was missing passes like crazy. And I mean, he has shown a flash here or there, a play. You know, the play where he rolls to the right and throws across his body and has a touchdown

to Io Manor. He has some special moments, but consistency is everything for a quarterback. And honestly, he's consistently not great so far. Taking the rookie lumps right now. Tony Pollard is averaging 20 opportunities a game. He is. And playing well. Yeah. Just not doing a ton for fantasy. Yeah, he did score last week to finish inside the top 15 for the first time. 16 for 45. This is going to be a tough one for him. I don't, I mean, the matchup's just going to be tough. If I'm Houston, Pollard is the number one and number two player I focus on