Fantasy Football - Week 4 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Marv Madness - Podcast for 9/26

Baltimore's favorite here. Two and a half points. That is, that's wild to go on the road. I mean, Baltimore is a, a better roster right now. You look at the chiefs. They've got a great defense. You look at the Ravens. They've got a good defense. Like they've, there's a lot of personnel on both sides here. You look at the two offenses and Baltimore has been on fire and the chiefs have been struggling, struggling to move the ball. So I understand why the Ravens are favored from a personnel standpoint, but this is tough to go on the road in arrowhead after a,

you know, a slug fest against the lions. I I'm with you, Andy. I'm picking the chiefs on this side. Yeah, I I've been, I've been disappointed with the Ravens defense, to be honest with you. Well, sure. They've given up like over a hundred points. Yeah. They, to me, they, they're like, uh, sometimes they look really good. Sometimes they break. I think on the road and arrowhead, that noise. I think that the chiefs can get it done. Now this is all outside the context of fantasy. Like the game has a high over under I'm looking at this game. You're obviously playing the stars in this game.

Lamar Jackson's in your lineup. Derek Henry's in your lineup. Say flowers should be in your lineup. Don't worry about last week. They ran very few plays and the way that that game went, you know, it was, uh, you know, Derek Henry had a huge role in that offense. You got the Mark Andrews involvement. I'm not worried about Zay flowers personally. Yeah. It does show what can happen, right? He is not an alpha in the prototypical sense. So he does disappear from time to time. The question then to me is like, you play those three core players. What do you do with Mark Andrews?

Do you chase what you got last week, Jason? You, so I got big AJ Brown, big Mark Andrews last week. Yeah. I think Mark Andrews is playable. I, I assumed that Isaiah likely was going to be back this week. And I think they need likely, um, likely has been limited participant in practice and he hasn't, been on the field yet. I would imagine you're going to have full participation in practice before likely actually takes the field in a, in a fantasy football, you know, way where you can start him. Um, but if likely is out, yeah, I mean, Mark Andrews is fine.

You look at last year on the season, the chiefs, great defense. The one place that they were exploitable was the tight end position. So he's like in a pinch. Now I will say this, if it was Andrews or hurts, I'm going to go hurts. Cause I'm much more confident that like, there are game plans where Mark Andrews is just into block. Okay. On the other side, way more complicated, way more challenging. We got a game in which we believe two of us, at least that the chiefs can win this game. The Ravens are covered. If you want my opinion on what's happening for the game.

Well, they're there. Okay. I think the Ravens are going to win this game by at least a touchdown. Okay. So yeah, your opinion is different. Yes. Got it. Yeah. No, I, I mean, it's, it's up in the air, but where does the points come from? Where does points come from? It really is. It's almost like what we've seen from Taequann Thornton has been so necessary for the, the chiefs that he might be the only player I want to play. I mean, I think maybe you've got to keep. Desperate flex, double flex situation. Yeah. But you think he's up, up above that?

He, he shouldn't be. No, he shouldn't be because you're going to need a big play. Yeah. And you're in the, I mean, Trey Tucker, Taequann Thornton this week. What would you do there? That's the category. I, I think I'd go Thornton. I'm going to go Thornton. Yeah. I mean, I might, I might not go either one. Because the thing is, is like the chiefs, do the chiefs come out of this game? I have to imagine is, is this prime time? No. Oh, wow. Crazy. The Ravens, yeah, Arrowhead, and they don't prime time that. it's just like one of those things where my homes will hit some big play.

Like it always happens. And I just don't know that there's anybody else to hit it with. Where are you with Travis Kelsey? You're going to start sit perspective this week. Cause the people want to know it's a big name on your bench and you're sitting there going, do I really play arts? Do I really play Henry Hunter Henry? Do I play Harold Fannin? Do I play Laporta? Like, where are you with Kelsey? I'm playing all, I'm playing basically all those people you just named. I mean, Zach hurts is available. And I would play Zach hurts over him. Even with Mariota,

even with Mariota, because you don't, you don't have Terry McLaurin there. And like you said, if he completes 18 passes, how many are going to earth? You know, he's going to be involved. Ferguson, Kincaid, both ahead of him. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it gets a little bit more murky if you're down in the Mark Andrews decision, Kyle pits decision, Britain strange decision. Yeah. I play him over strange. Yeah. I play him over strange. I play him over pits. Okay. Anybody else at the, I mean, we avoided running backs for the chiefs. Yeah. You should not strategic. If you're going to start one,

uh, it would be hunt. I think you're looking for touchdowns. You should have gone Demarcato. Yeah. That's tough. I didn't re I didn't even rediscover that. I started Demarcato until after that game. Otherwise I would have lost my mind during it. Chicago Raiders one and two, both of these squads. We had, we have the Raiders one and a half point home favorites. The over under is 47 and a half. The line has jumped back and forth. The bears looked really good last week, but they're on the road here. And, um, you know, I think this game has the potential to be very good for fantasy.

Personally. I think that, uh, the Chicago defense has been really bad. They've lost pieces. We do. We know that Jalen Johnson's getting core muscle surgery. Now Chicago has given up a lot of, uh, a lot of yards, you know, Gino Smith's been willing to throw the ball down the field. Mm-hmm. You have a game. I'm pretty excited about for fantasy. Yeah, I would agree. I think who are your locks in this game? Uh, Caleb Williams, Caleb. Okay. I thought we were talking to the Raiders, uh, Raiders side sides. Yeah. Both sides. Like if Jente has a down, one week, this week,

uh, then I will start to be concerned. Yeah. I, I told a lot of people to go pick him up and I'm, I'm for that decision of if you can go get a, a workhorse running back, who's just underperforming. But if, if you can't perform in this matchup, then, then you'll be like, when, when will it actually happen? When could it actually happen? Yeah. The principle behind acquiring Jente is that if you keep giving Ashton Jente, 15 plus opportunities a week, you'll be happy with Ashton Jente. That's the principle. Yes. But we need the, uh, the outcome to match. And I love Jacoby Myers.

He's my start of the week. And Brock Bowers, I, Brock Bowers should be back to what you're used to. Yeah. I mean, uh, you got Michael Mayer, uh, still working through his concussion. Didn't participate in practice this week. So he probably won't be active. Bowers is now, you know, going to be three weeks removed from the initial knee injury that he's been playing through. So Bowers is a lock. Um, a duns. A lot. A duns. A is absolutely a lock right now. There's a lot of the running backs though on, on, on Chicago. This is an area where the Raiders so far have been very good in terms of not

giving up a lot of fancy points to running backs. Do you play Swift? I mean, because of the running back landscape, he is just outside of my top 24, just outside the top 24. Yeah. Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard or Deandre Swift? Pollard. I'm Pollard there as well. Travion Henderson. That one's tough. I, the known work for Swift. I'm just so afraid. Like, yeah. Logic and rational coaching says, Hey, Henderson gets chances. What if he has three chances? It's in the range of outcomes. I'm going to take my three chances on a big play. Well, we haven't. Yeah. So you'd play him over Swift.

I would. You'd play Henderson over Swift, Jason Moore. All right. Well, I mean the last two weeks, 12 and 13 touches for Deandre Swift has not been a ton on the ground. It's been okay. Um, Trey Tucker chasing that three touchdown game. You guys said you'd play Thornton over him. I mean, I, the thing I come back to with Tucker that made me feel more confident was the involvement, the snaps and the, the week one where he got into the end zone again. Geno Smith, we don't know who his favorite targets are on this offense yet, but it was nice to see Tucker involved.

You're going to be. First two weeks it was Jacoby. And then it was Trey Tucker. Yeah. You got to monitor, monitor that. It'd be nice to monitor from the bench. I think. See if you have something more longterm. Yeah. Can you even start DJ Moore? No. I mean, like, uh, I don't think so. He, uh, the Packers boys like Romeo Dobbs, not golden, obviously good. Cause we're pretty pumped, but Romeo Dobbs in that matchup against Dallas or DJ Moore, probably Dobbs. Woof. DJ Moore's on pace for 765 receiving yards. Uh, I, I'm going to lean on the DJ Moore side there,

but I think that's a good, like that's where he is now. Yeah. And Gino Smith, would you play him over Baker? There, there was, we didn't mention it in the news. Baker's managing a, a biceps injury. Yeah, we did just get an update on that. Tough matchup. Uh, Bulls was talking about Baker, Godwin and Worfs said, all those guys are questionable, but trending in the right direction. We'll see what happens tomorrow with Tristan and Chris. Baker should be okay for Sunday. Okay. What's the answer then? Gino or Baker? Man, it's tough. I, I personally would go Gino. I've got him in two different lineups.

It feels so scary and stupid though. Is he your, uh, league of record quarterback this week? He is. I'm playing him over Dak. If CD lamb is ever officially ruled out and I can change my lineup. Okay. We're holding out hope. Yeah. This is just an inevitable out, isn't it? Yes. It's just an inevitable out. They were talking about, do we need to put him on the IR? They literally said, we're going to reevaluate in two weeks. Doubtful. All right. We will, uh, we'll take a break and we'll get into Sunday night, Monday night. This episode is brought to you by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV.

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excludes digital only games. Base plan required renews every month during the 2025 regular season. Only your membership for the following month can be canceled. Anytime before your renewal date terms, restrictions and embargoes apply commercial use excluded. No refunds. Speaking of them, Cowboys green Bay travels to Dallas green Bay, two and one coming off a loss. Dallas one and two Vegas line here. Green Bay minus seven over under 47 and a half. Dallas is hurting. We've got injuries. CD lamb. We've already talked about it, but you've got your first round guard likely heading to IR for Dallas. You now lost your center for six to eight weeks.

We talked about it a little bit on the trade episode on Wednesday. The fact that like, I'm a little worried about Javante longterm. Sure. Worried about Javante against green Bay. They have been pretty much a force. They lost a really close game last week, but it wasn't like, I mean, I guess Judkins had a good game against them. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm not as confident that Javante gets into the end zone. I don't think Javante is as, as good as, as Judkins. Scadaboo against the Chargers or Javante against green Bay. That's a great question. Scadaboo. Yeah. I'd go Scadaboo.

It's not that great of a question. Honestly, it's a mediocre question, Mike. Oh man. Yeah. I'm sorry. I thought it was at least good. If we had disagreed, it would have been a great question. I think one of the biggest, Travis ETN or Javante Williams. ETN. Come up with a good question, Mike. Try to do a good question. Yes. Just say, he just has questions. Medium to mediocre. Yeah. Mediocre. Brees Hall. Oh, that's a good question. You did it, Mike. Third time's the try. You did it. Andy. Brees Hall. Okay. Cool. Next question. Pollard. Jeremy wants to know Pollard or.

Oh, is that. Or Javante is like the standard. I don't have that. I just thought it was a good question. That one is a great question, Al. Oh, what? Come on. What? I love that question. It was really well thought out. What? Yeah. Thank you. I will take. I don't want to. Javante. Yeah. I don't want to say that Javante is on startable here. This is the running back six through three weeks. He's been very good. They're going to need him and his utilization has been awesome, but without the same center and guard he's had with CD lamb removed from,

you know, you're, you're going to have an easier time at the line. I hope he can catch some passes. That would, that would make things. And he has been. Yeah. Last week, he only had 10 attempts on the ground, did not score for the first time on the ground, ended up at running back 25. I think that's about where I have him slotted in this week. Jordan loves my start of the week. Matthew golden's my start of the week on the green Bay side. Josh Jacobs is Jason's start of the year for the rest of the season. So, uh, looking forward to seeing how Jacobs breaks out,

gets back into the end zone, maybe once or twice. We'll see Romeo Dobbs. You can play him. You really can. Yeah. You don't have to be excited about it. Just do it. Tucker craft. We finally had a down, down performance. Well, he is hurting because he was going to be out for the year. I was that dog, Mike. He played. Yeah. He played. The dog was on the field. So you can play poorly. Oh, absolutely. Through injury and be a dog. If it's a season ending injury and you play through it, then you're a dog. That, I mean, that stands to reason Mac Jones is the dog,

Mike. No, he left. He just, he, most guys would have gotten certain. Oh, okay. He still didn't play. Yeah. He left the game. Play George Pickens. Tuck away Dak on your bench. He's yeah. Pickens is very interesting to me. Yeah, he is. I'm like scared as all get out right now about Pickens because without CD, like Pickens was a, my guy, um, because he was the wide receiver too, because he was the wide receiver too for this team is, is perfect for him. Now it's like the defense is going, okay, there's, there's pretty much this guy over under nine targets.

I would take the under on that. See, I think he's guaranteed nine or more. I'll go over. He's been at nine targets the past two weeks. That's why I picked that. I know. Yeah. I was letting Jason know that. So you, I mean, all the concerns aside though, Jason, is he sliding in as more of a wide receiver too for you? He is. I'd be, he's not a must start to me, but he, he projects to get volume. Jake Ferguson is a must start. Oh, he is goodness gracious. The only place that the Packers have really been beat this year is,

is really the tight end position. And Ferguson's going to over under 21 targets. I guess I'll take the push. Oh, you're pushing. I'll take the under. All right. Monday night football. Do you know, we got the double header at, uh, yes, at the different times, but they're still playing at the same time. Just an, an hour. We got to stagger them an hour for split screen, baby. What reason? I actually, look, look now that we're, you guys are weird. No, I mean, I hate it. It's, it's actually pretty awesome. Personally. We like it, man. We like it. I mean, I'm on YouTube TV,

so it's like, I just do the, I do the two things. Am I the only one who hates it? Uh, I like it. I like it too. Okay. Yeah. I'm weird. I was with you, man. The first time they did it, I was like, but with the split screen where you can just have the audio go back and forth between the two games. I love the Island games because it's like, it's an event. It's when isolated attention on Twitter, we're all at, you know, when game of Thrones, when you had to watch it live, it was like everyone in the world,

we're all watching the exact same thing at the exact same time. And we can have a conversation on Twitter and it's just fragmented. Don't you have an HOA meeting at that time anyways, that you're going to miss this for? Well, I'm running. Yeah. I got to, I can, I can count on your vote or what? I will. Yeah. You're the man for the job. The Jets are 0 and 3. The Dolphins are 0 and 3. The Vegas line, Miami minus two and a half. The over-under is 45 and a half. You look at this division and Buffalo could like put on blindfolds and win this division right now.