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The hosts challenge injury-prone labels and turn waiver advice into a key-question checklist for draft season.
are the best running backs. The best running backs outscore the best wide receivers usually. Now, every now and then, a guy like, let's say Cooper Cup has one of the best most historical seasons of all time and will outscore everyone that is doubtful to happen in back-to-back years. He's going to be awesome. I love Cooper Cup. I'm all in. But if I had to place money as to whether... Cooper Cup outscores, or just general, will the number one wide receiver outscore the number one running back this year? I'd put my money on the running back. Right. Off of Instagram, we got Dylan saying, Dalvin Cook or Justin Jefferson? And does it change if this is full point PPR? So you're on the clock. Team in fighting. You're on the clock, Jason. First round is Justin Jefferson. The first four picks to me in almost all leagues, you know, obviously if this is a.
standard at no points per reception, then I would go Delvin Cook. Half PPR, full PPR. I am Justin Jefferson as pretty much the fourth pick right now. My first four picks, it's almost not fun for me anymore because it's just like, it's the same. Okay, yeah, I understand. I'm a little bored with that. Off of Instagram, Luke says Mike Evans or Michael Pittman. Which is to me a question that a month ago felt very easy. And I would say this is Mike Evans going away. But we are getting more and more information for Tampa Bay of Chris Godwin was not put on the pup list for training camp. What does that mean for his status going into the season? I don't know. They just added Julio Jones. How integrated is he in the offense? We're getting...
You know, hype train already of, they're using Julio a ton. What does that mean? You're like, so we are, more variables have been popping up recently for Mike Evans. Meanwhile, Michael Pittman locked in, the number one guy for the Indianapolis Colts, fighting for targets against Alec Pierce, maybe Paris Campbell, maybe Ashton Doolin, maybe Heinz. Like, these are all, like, I don't know about that. And Michael Pittman is a stud. This is a, I like this question, not because it's difficult. Right. To me, it's easily Evans. It still is. Even with everything that's going on, it's still Evans. Um, that being said, it's not a crazy question at all. This is an up and coming third year wide receiver who has a lot of things going his way. If you, you know,
I won't be surprised in the slightest if he outscores Mike Evans this year. I don't have that projected. I think that the ceiling case for Mike Evans is still more touchdowns than the ceiling case for an ascended Michael Pittman Jr. You know, if you had to say who could get 15 touchdowns, it's probably Mike Evans not Michael Pittman. Yeah, I would agree with that. So if the ceiling is there but the... probable mean outcome is also on Mike Evans side. It's Evans. But the nice thing is where these guys are being drafted, why not both? You know, in a lot of situations, you can grab. I've got plenty of teams with Mike Evans and Michael Pittman because I love both these players. All right. This one's off of Instagram from Kramer 8400. Is Jalen Tolbert worth drafting for fantasy? Jalen Tolbert, a rookie wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys. I...
Best ball, absolutely. Okay. Obviously, Dynasty for sure, but just a redraft league. I am skeptical on drafting Jalen Tolbert in that. I mean, you're talking about a guy who is in the, you know, 14th, 15th round. So sure, we always talk about you want to take a flyer on a guy who has a pathway to succeed week one and also you don't have any problem cutting. So by all of that, Jalen Tolbert is a fine pick. He. projects to be a starter from week one if Michael Gallup is not there. He was drafted in the third round. Third round wide receiver and a good offense. Plenty of reasons. So should you draft Jalen Tolbert? Yes. But don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm not saying that Jalen Tolbert's going to be a superstar and grab him in your eighth round because he's a rookie sensation for good offense. I'm saying he's a really good pick where his ADP is right now on Sleeper in your home leagues. All right. Let's jump to a voicemail question. All right.
opinion that you wouldn't draft Josh Allen in the second. Would you take your number one overall if you're playing in a Superflex or a 2QB league? Thank you. Bye. All right. So Josh Allen as the 101 in a Superflex, Jason. That would be my pick. If I'm a 101 in a Superflex. I, you know, most of the leagues that I still play in are half PPR, which makes it even better for taking a Josh Allen or a quarterback there. Excellent. Yeah, Josh Stallion, the difference between, you know, the situations here is that the pool dries up in a superflex. If you've got two quarterbacks that you can start, quarterbacks become a scarcity.
a commodity that you can't just stream and get off the waiver wire and replace very easily, in which case they do score the most points. He is awesome. He will probably, you know, I said earlier, like, Herbert could easily finish number one. In my head, after that, you started talking, and in my head, I literally said, Josh Allen could get injured. Because that's the path to me of Josh Allen not finishing. I don't know if he can. If anyone in the NFL looks like their bones are. grafted with adamantium. Yeah. Josh Allen. Josh Allen is. He's, I mean, he's a sturdy. Yes. Dude's a horse. Wait, do I need to hit it again? Excellent. All right. We got the people want to know, Jason. You are our go-to food expert. I'm everyone's go-to food expert. Fair. Off of Instagram from DeLord Petty. Thoughts on the Chaco Taco.
Being discontinued. Oh, this is, this is, this is, okay. So you, I already knew. You knew about it. Of course I knew. Well, yeah. Look at this belly. What am I doing? How dare I doubt your greatness? Thank you. So here's the thing. It is sad. Chaco Taco Taco has been just such a classic. You get the, the ice cream man driving by. When is the last time you ate a Chaco Taco? Probably about two years ago. Okay. My current home, we moved, and my current home, the ice cream man doesn't come. Yeah, it's fair. My former home, ice cream man knew where we lived, man. I mean, he knew our kids. He was, okay, first of all, we had his business card. We would call him.
And if, but we didn't need to because he's there three, four times a day. I mean, it was a real problem on that. That's the reason we moved because ice cream brand would not leave us alone. When he tried by, he's like, I'm only coming around here three more times today. So you better get in. He'll just drive out front and stop, play the music for about 30 minutes and then go on if we don't come out. So yeah, I did, I did enjoy a taco taco. My wife told me the devastating news that it's going. It's sad because of the lore, but.
I think it's a little over here. Now, they haven't been great in the last couple years. I don't know. They cheap down on the production process. So the chaco taco was based, it's like, it's a waffle shell. Yeah, it's a waffle shell. It's basically ice cream and a waffle shell instead of a waffle cone. I mean, that's really what it is. But it's shaped like a taco. So if it's Tuesday, you got to eat it. How is, how is Taco Bell not have these? Ooh, maybe they're about to put them out of business. Did they buy the patent? For the Chaco Taco Taco. Is there a patent? I don't know. We're working on the patent here for this chocolate taco. Craig in North Dakota sent the question through the website, PPR Keeper. Should I keep Jalen Hertz in the 10th or Darnel Mooney in the 11th? I am in love of Jalen Hertz. So it's him.
I mean, it's pretty simple. That song ended abruptly. Yeah. I thought there was going to be more. I mean, you don't need more. To me, Jalen Hertz is he's pretty much a sixth round pick, seventh round pick to me. It depends on whether you're in a home league and a best ball league right now. His ADP can be all over the place. But wherever he's going in that system, that format, which is usually the sixth round. I will be grabbing him. So in the 10th round, heck yeah, brother. Oh, thank you. Currently, we have Darnell Mooney as our consensus wide receiver 21. And looking at Jalen Hertz, we have them at consensus QB6. So too low. That's too low? QB6. Yeah. You said QB6. I did. Who do you have in front of Jalen Hertz? Well, let me tell you. I mean, Josh Stallion, we got that. Excellent. Can we get a drop?
I mean, yeah, sure. Yes, I have right now my quarterback rankings, and this is for four-point scoring. Okay. Is Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hertz. Whoa. Okay. Now, in six-point scoring. I didn't know you were bringing out the flamethrower on Saturday. Yeah, well, we'll see. You know, he drops in six-point scoring. So that, I mean, that's very easy then. You're QB3 in the 10th round. Yeah. All right. I didn't know you were so insane. No, it's just so infatuated. I knew you let you've been a Jalen Hertz guy. You've been the truth around the show. Yeah, I think he's a better quarterback than he gets credit for. I think his weapons are there. Siriani showed that he can do enough and, you know, and also, you know, I'm a Devonza Smith guy. So when I love those two ascending players, I think I want to get in before.
He was great last year, but I think if you level up his greatness last year, you're going to have what you could still call a breakout, even though he's been good. Off of Instagram, this one's from Primetime 53. We've got a debate in the league right now. Tiebreaker for playoff seating. Total points or head to head. Total points. Yeah, I go there as well. Yeah, I mean, head to head is just. I get it, I get it because me and Mike play and Mike beats me and I get in the playoffs, but he beat me that feels unfair except if it was the opposite. And over the course of the entire season, I outscored him, but he just happened to beat me by two points in one week, in week four. Oh man, that feels completely unfair. And I think that everyone should be level-headed enough.
to understand that that's the clear, more fair solution. There's so much variance in fantasy football that I think that going with that one week for getting into the playoffs, I understand the counterargument was, well, in the playoffs, it's one week. But, I mean, look, we're trying to make the game as fun as possible. And I think that total points is the way to go. Question off of Instagram from, where did it go from? Far on 57. Does your steering wheel melt from the heat in Arizona? I've heard rumors. Oh, man. The steering wheels are weapons in the state of Arizona. They are genuinely in some cars. It's different from car to car. It's just a weapon against yourself, though. Right. Yes. It's brutal. I mean, there have been, there are people that wear gloves.
That wear gloves to drive. And they're not race car drivers. They just have to touch it. Yeah, and we're not talking just driving gloves. Like, there are people that will throw on some oven mitts and drive. I mean, there are big, fuzzy steering wheel covers that are out here because I would rather touch that than the heat of the nuclear. I mean, the inside of cars gets to 150 degrees. And. Then if the sun is beaten down on that steering wheel, you can get in and not be able to touch it or drive. You've got to pre-cool your car. If you can, yeah, I recommend that. This one's from Instagram, Luke Leo 97. In a zero running back strategy, how soon should I look to draft my first running back? Some of that's going to be who's on the board. I mean, you don't want to have a lot of times people in a zero-r-b strategy, they say, well, you don't want to draft it before round eight.
Or whatever, they say this is the round. It's not RB is zero RB unless it's round X. And I think that is so foolish. Right. Because then you might bypass a good zero RB back like a Chase Edmonds or someone like that because, well, I'm not to the round where I said, you know, if he's slipping. But in general, so I say that as a caveat before I give my round. I think that if you're not taking a running back until round seven. That qualifies a zero RB. So a quick shout out. Sean Siegel is the guy that had the thought process of, well, maybe there's a way that we can assemble a team like this because forever in fantasy football, the first round is just all running backs. Is there a way that you can take advantage of? Zig. Yeah, yes, take advantage of what's going on with the supply and the demand of the position. The fact that running backs are the ones that get hurt the most. And so Siegel is the one who.
who developed this strategy and kind of unleashed it upon the world. And the way he looked at it, he was always trying to get the goal is four of the top 15 wide receivers onto his team. So if you really want to dive into zero running back, I totally recommend checking out his work, his initial article on the whole entire strategy. I don't. pretend that I'm like an expert of all of it, but you're just, you're trying to build as, get as many elite wide receivers as you possibly can. Don't get caught up in the, the name of the zero running back. And it's like, because you can still. And not just, not just necessarily receivers. In, in that strategy, you can grab a Mark Andrews, you know, or, or a higher end quarterback. And really, you're stacking all of the other positions.
While the goal is that as these early running backs get injured and become less valuable for your opponents, your late-round running backs that were backups who now get thrust into starting positions become stronger. So your roster gets stronger as your, you know, opponents, your enemies' rosters get weaker as the season goes along. I think this works even better. in managed leagues where you can go after the waiver wire pickups. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, when you're in best ball, it can work in all formats. It didn't work well last year because there were a lot of, a lot of top wide receivers got injured as well. But the reality is when you're in a managed league and on week six, we actually know who the great waiver wire pickup.
that might be surprising and nobody drafted in bestball, but like that's the running back. You go and grab him and add him to a roster full of great wide receivers, a good quarterback, a good tight end. You get really, really strong. I do find though it works best when, you know, like it's funny. People want to be like the others around them. You know, we're a tribal people. Yeah. And so it's like sometimes. all the cool kids are doing zero RB and they're all in the same league. But if everybody's trying that strategy, it doesn't really work. Yes, that is a part of it is if there are multiple people going with that strategy, it's going to be way harder for you to get those top wide receivers because of the supply and the demand. Just an example on our most recent mock drafts or a previous mock, it was a PPR, and I went Jefferson, Mike Evans, T. Higgins, Mike Williams. That's how I started.
And then I took Clyde Edwards to Lair and Cream Hunt in the next rounds. Is that a zero running back team? I mean, I don't know. But I just, I was trying my best to get four of the top 15 guys, my top 15, and have the points that those guys can put up on a weekly basis so dominant that it makes up for. the lack that I will have at the beginning of the year for my running back scoring. Yeah, and the unfortunate thing for you is like when you grade those teams after the draft, they don't look as good because you are going to be adding running backs to your roster that change over the course of the season. So don't judge too quickly there. We got this one's from Clayton in Atlanta, Georgia. What do you guys' thoughts on drafting Aaron Jones and?
AJ Dylan. And we have a shout out to my old youth pastor, Kyle. Kylie Wiley over here. Oh, this is the Borgogan. Oh, okay. And I mean, this is not meant to be an insult in the slightest. Please insult. But like if you, if you stacked us in a line and you said, which one of us used to be a youth pastor? Yeah. 100 out of 100 people get that right. People know. People know who it is. Yeah. You play, uh, you play some acoustic guitar there, Kyle? I play none. Oh, no. Shocking. You don't even, not even the four chords. You need to be a youth pastor? GCD minor. That's it. Yeah, okay. There it is. Those skinny jeans gave you away. Um,
But anyway, so did he have a question? Yeah, what are your thoughts on drafting both of the Green Bay running backs? Oof, I don't like it at all. Okay. To me, Aaron Jones is being drafted with enough draft capital. You know, he's like sixth round pick where you are. I mean AJ Dylan? Yeah, sorry, AJ Dylan. I was like, you got, where are we getting Jones in the sixth? Yeah, sign me up. No, AJ Dylan is being drafted with enough capital as you're going to need him to be a flex starter. Um, And then you're really, when you draft AJ Dillon, we don't hope for injury. But yes, you are. I mean, when you draft him, you're hoping he gets the role, not negativity towards. You're hoping that Aaron Jones wins the lottery and just goes on a cruise around the world. It has a change of heart. And occupation, yes. But that is too much draft capital to put into one backfield. I've seen these situations work.
where you're talking about, you know, a 9th, 10th round pick, you know, and grab a backfield together. I don't even like doing it there. When I leave my draft, I'm not looking to have multiple backs from the same backfield. I just think it's bad strategy. All right. We're going to get out of here on this one. Instagram. M. G. Yamps. McGamps. McGamps. McGamps. But Giams wants to know, are there multiple J. Grizzes or just the one? And there's only one. I mean, the cardboard bear extraordinaire. He's holding the down over there. How dare you think there's more than one? I mean, this is. This is Highlander. There can be only one. That's like saying how many Mike writes are there? Yeah. I mean, how many Jason Moore's really like technically a lot of us? Mike Wright, more common name than you.
I will grant this listener. Maybe there are other bears that go by Jay Gris. Right. You know, maybe the San Diego Zoo named their grizzly bear Jay. Right. Okay, so maybe there's another, but there's only one of you, bud. There is only one cardboard bear extraordinaire, and we love you. He does love going on road trips. And being left behind. So you can't tell people that. Shh, keep it secret. We would. Never do that. It's a prestige situation. Yeah, there's only. We leave the clone behind. Get out of here. Prestige. All right. That's going to do it for today's episode. Thank you so much for joining. Remember the ultimate draft kit. It's available for you right now, ultimate draft kit.com. We will be back on Monday because we are launching into five shows a week. And you will get to hear the live show. Yep.
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