Week 6 Studs & Duds + Injuries Galore! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/16

You're still watching this after that crappy weekend of football and injuries? Well, welcome. I'm happy to have you here. Make sure you subscribe so you can stay tuned for all the better, better times that are coming for us as fantasy managers. Enjoy. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. The fantasy footballers podcast. Jason Moore back in the building. Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Very unique opportunity here for the Foot Clan because Mike and I haven't seen Jason really until pretty much this very moment. And so we will be reacting together to a weekend of football. Yeah. What a...

Good week in a football it was. Yeah, I mean, you've got to be thrilled to be back in the building to talk about the moves you've made and the way they've helped your season. Like the way that they broke. The way that things that broke for you. Yeah, they, yeah, I'm a proud new David Montgomery manager. That's cool. That's cool. So I got you then, right? That was on me. I made a big Wednesday case for David Montgomery, and you said, and you fell for it. I should have known that the Reaper was coming to calling. Oh, I think you're the injury Reaper this year. This year, certainly. I mean, my league of record team, I'm one of you. When I tweeted this was like a week or two ago previous to these new injuries I had this week. And I had so many people just be like, I am you. I, you know, some teams just you get, you get it all. You know, we.

We get all of the good injuries. No, not all. You had only, all you had was Dobbins. Yeah. Echler. Jefferson, A. Chan. Yeah. And then obviously you traded A. Chan in order to keep battling because, like you said, you're like the listener out there. You're fighting. You care. Yeah. So you went to bat and you said, hey, Achan's out for four weeks. I need to win. Let me go get me a horse. Yeah. So I got David Montgomery. I got a lion. And he was. He went back in the cage. Yeah, I mean, it was a really brutal weekend. Injuries everywhere. And you kind of get an understanding of the weekend when we are browsing the Monday punday submissions. And some weeks it is flooded with the good performances of the week. And then other weeks are like this week. When it was hard to, I mean, there were basically three players, and I'll get into the Monday Punday here.

But there were like three players people were happy with. And I read something this morning, and I don't remember where I read it. Otherwise, I'd give you a shout out, so I'm sorry. But essentially, like the percentage of games this season hitting the under is something like a record since 2000. It's an incredible amount of games have, I guess, underwhelmed compared to expectation. Yeah, I mean, the dolphins are trying their best. Yeah, they can't hold the whole league up. They can't hold the whole league up. It's crazy when I go and I look at what just happened. Or did you spill? No, I almost lost the whole mug. I almost lost the entire mug onto the laptop. Go on, Jason. I forgot how to hold things. Yeah, yeah. But if you look at just your fantasy league scoring, you know, I plan a couple leagues where you've got to hit a certain threshold.

to be in the top half, you know, like we do that in the megalobole where, um, you get one victory for beating your opponent and one victory for scoring in the top half. And a lot of times it's like you need 135 points to, you know, in these leagues to, to get top half. It's like, oh, you got a hundred and nine this week. You're good. Mike and I felt like our game was, Mike and I took one another on this weekend. And then we were the only two in the studio watching. So we were just. pretty much just having dud after dud, and I think we were the third and fourth high-scoring teams in the league. Something like that, yeah. Despite you lost CMC, I lost Debo Samuel. We had just, I mean, you played DeForman. He wasn't great. He was okay. He ended up okay at the end. I mean, I had Damien Pierce that was awful. It was Rich Rebar. He said, heading into Monday night football.

59.8% of all NFL games this season have gone under the game total. That is the highest rate through six weeks of any season in the 2000s. We need to look at the rules. We need to change some things again. The rules? Yeah, the NFL rules. Oh, to open things up even more. No, look, have we considered no tackling at all? We have considered that based on some of the penalties that took place this weekend because there were five or six. I don't, I'm telling you. All tackles are legal. All tackles, yeah. Are illegal. Yeah. That's all we're talking about. Also touchdowns are worth 80 points each. No, I mean, some of these calls, these roughing the passer calls or they were ridiculous this weekend. That one on Josh Allen. Oh, yeah. Asinine. The defense. That was a, you tackled, you tackled him.

You're not allowed to do that. There was a hit on Elijah Moore that was called defenseless receiver, which was a garbage call. I mean, here's what you do. Just put one dedicated person in the booth. When a questionable call is made on the field, that person says, pst, huddle up for a second. One, two, three, that's not a penalty. That's it. That's all you have to do. They should have a different colored flag, like an orange flag, like. This could be, I think I might have seen a penalty. Oh, man. That's funny. You know, and then they just get that. It's got little question marks all over that flag. For sure. All right. Into Monday, punday we go. Might as well react to the weekend. Let's get it over. Here's a fair warning. There were a higher percentage of poop-related puns this week. Oh, fantastic.

Well, you know, it won't take us long. Let's start with the good, like Rahim the Dream. Or Kai Wynn Williams. Yes, and Mike. We got Ammon. Hurrah! St. Brown. And that's all for the good. That's it. It's over. DeAndre Flopkins. Pooh-Poo Nakua. Alexander Mehtison. Dee Boo, Samuel. Oh, speaking of Sam, Sam. Sam La Porta Potty. We've been waiting forever for that one. How about do-do at well? Do-do at-well. How about Jackson Smith and jig bust? Jerry Booty, Jaggy, Jerry. That was that one. That was from Steve Smith. Yeah, Steve Smith put him on Blime. Brock Turdy. Yeah, you were calling out Brock Turdy for most of the game. Yeah, I was trying to defend him. No CMC, no Debo.

I just, I love that the, the trailings truth of the show. I've like, I, we rift. We finally riffed on Brock Party and I was like, dude, I, I think he's good. I made the joke of, I think I'm finally getting to the point where I'm, I'm accepting that the 49ers may have made the right decision. And then he was terrible. We talked. We talked about it. We talked about it. I mean, this is now, just keep it in mind. If you want to play defense against the 49ers, do what Jim Schwartz does. Because now you have Kyle Shanahan, who's one in nine against him. He averages 15 points a game. Kyle Shanahan does against Jim Schwartz defenses and what they score 17. I mean, I saw a lot of the, you know, well, well, he lost McCaffrey, lost DeBling. The Cleveland Browns were on a backup quarterback. That's, yeah. They didn't have Nick Chubb.

They were without a lot of things, too, from the beginning of the game, not in the middle. Didn't lose George Kittle, couldn't get him the ball, didn't lose Brandon I. You, man, who had a couple of drops in this one. Yeah, I mean, step one, make it rain. That's, that, that helps. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Eagles went down against the Jets. Crazy. Backup quarterbacks beating these undefeated teams. Yeah, the Giants just couldn't pull it off. The only thing that stayed the same this weekend was Jason having no running backs. Yeah. It's the only thing. All right. Well, let's get into all that injury news because that's what Jason wants to talk about. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance.

David Montgomery left the game with a rib injury, did not return. X-rays were negative, but the news, according to the Detroit free press this morning, is that he's expected to miss some time with a rib injury. Oh, cool. All right. Well, the nice thing is if he misses, let's say, two weeks, then they have their bye week. So I might have him in a month. All right. So what are you doing? I'm going to play him? No, I'm not going to blame him. I will probably, I'm guessing I will cry in my closet. That is, if I had to guess what my mode of operation is going to be, it's just going to be lights off. To be honest, I'm shocked that you haven't already done that. Yeah, well, I was in, I was in Disneyland. Happiest place on Earth. I was neutral.

I was just completely new. I had no happiness, no sadness. You know what? I told you before you left. The last time I went to Disneyland was during a championship game where I needed Dalvin Cook to score six points to win a championship. It's not the happiest place on Earth for fantasy football. No, apparently. It wasn't. Justin Fields, dislocated right thumb, left the game, didn't come back. X-rays were negative. MRI on Monday. We'll find out if, what was the backups name? Baggant, Baggant? Something like that. I think you called him Bilbo Baggent. So that's about right. I did do that. CMC, oblique and rib injury, Debo, shoulder injury. Jason, you had a little bit of news on CMC. Yeah, so ironically, the CMC injury and the David Montgomery injury are very, very similar injuries. CMC, you know, it's a non-broken rib.

So you're going to have. Also, I have some of those. Yeah. You're going to have a week or two. CMC, though, you know, he's played through injuries like this before. It's very tough. They have the Monday night football game this week, which is good news and bad. Gives them an extra day to recover to get out there. It gives them that little prime time. need, you know what I mean? Like that we're human beings. He'll want to be there, right? They'll want to be out there on Minnesota in prime time. But also it makes it very difficult as managers to actually, you know, have a replacement in tow. I mean, Jordan Mason will be on the waiver show tomorrow in a big way. Yeah. And Elijah Mitchell, too, who was, Elijah Mitchell was back for his first game. He was bad. I believe he finished with negative yards. He did. But.

I assume he was more rostered than Mason. Is that not a good assumption? I don't know. I'm sure he is more roster, but I'm guessing I'll try and find some. I would imagine he's widely available after missing the last couple weeks. I mean, I'll say it now. If I had Christian McCaffrey, I would do everything in my power to just have Jordan Mason on my roster so that I could ride it into Monday night. I'm seeing 28% from Mitchell. Okay. So that'll be the fight this weekend. Yeah. Debo's injury, early news was that it's not considered serious, but that doesn't mean he plays Monday night either. So you start looking at, I mean, maybe you end up doing what we always say. Put your earlier players in the running back spots, the wide receiver spots, throw CMC in that flex spot. Maybe all of a sudden it's a Joanne Jennings pivot on Monday night if he doesn't play or a Ronnie Bell pivot or something of that. I mean, you're playing Minnesota. There are points to be had there.

playing CMC and him being active is yeah that's the worst possible like I just can't imagine unless you knew he was doubtful which we'll tell you all week long what's going on I'm getting into it early but we'll find out more Trevor Lawrence knee injury considered day to day we'll undergo an MRI yeah there's a lot of quarterback injuries too Ryan Tannehill ankle injury that's the same high ankle injury that he had last year where he missed most of the year I mean there this is horrific news for the Titans. Malik Willis came in. He did not look like he had improved over the off season. He looked like Malik Willis from last year. I mean, it could be Willis time, so they drafted him in the second round this past year. I mean, I don't know. You think that they could just completely... But the point being, this feels like Derek Henry had a good game. Like, Derek Henry has had...

some momentum in the last couple of weeks. And Hopkins had the huge game two weeks ago. But if you don't have Ryan Taneyhill and you have Levis or Malik Willis running this offense, it's probably going to be brutal. Yeah, your DeAndre Hopkins shares will have been deleted. Yes. Jimmy Garoppolo left the game with the back injury, did not return. He was taken to a local hospital to evaluate internal damage. Instead of the rookie, Brian Hoyer ends up. taking the field looked pretty good. I mean, so often we've been in this situation where the rookie is more exciting for the team, but the veteran is more exciting for fantasy. It's the like, you know, Andy Dalton taking the field, or we want James Swinston or Brian Hoyer. In days gone by, it was Josh McCown, he almost rooted for him to start. I mean, there is something to be said about the veteran taking over and being able to provide a little bit of consistent fantasy value. And they're three and three now.

They are three and three. They will go on the road and take on the Chicago Bears next week. I mean, it's probably going to be Hoyer. Damien Harris left the game on a spine board, taken to hospital for evaluation, gave a thumbs up when he left the field, which everybody, you know, seeing the Buffalo jersey again. Yeah, it was, that was rough. Josh Allen left momentarily to the blue tent, came right back out there. Garrett Wilson. He left two times with the ankle injury. It is a buy week for Garrett Wilson. So you expect him to be okay. And then we got word that Kiron Williams is getting an MRI. He left without a walking boot. Sean McVeigh said that he thought he would be okay. He tweaked the ankle late in the game. But Ronnie Rivers, his backup has a PCL sprain that could keep him out a few weeks. And Zach Evans enters the conversation as a depth piece with potential start.

options. That's my kind of running back fellas. I'm going to be diving down to Zach Evans on my main team. Hmm. Delicious. And then before the games, Deshaun Watson rotator cuff contusion. You can't drive the ball when he throws. The Browns have said that he's injured. How about this? Tell us that three weeks ago. Mike made the point that like why throw him under the bus about like being medically cleared to play and not coming out and clarifying it to the media immediately. Yeah. Just like, okay, he's medically cleared, but the pain is so severe that we're concerned that he's going to hurt himself further or, you know, throw interceptions, whatever the case may be. Yeah. It's, it's real easy. You just say, yeah, no, he is. Even if you want to throw out the medically cleared, which I don't think you have to do that. Like that's, you should not do that. Yes. I mean, you.

Also, you should not clear him. Right. He shouldn't, if he can't play, which well, medically clear just means they're saying he won't, he's not at risk of hurting himself further by throwing the ball. Because he can't throw. He's like, he will not hurt himself anymore. He can't be. Can't hurt himself. Yeah, it could be. It was Baltimore and San Francisco, right? Yeah. And then they end up winning the ball game. They did. Which is incredible. And that defense is very good. Mm-hmm. They play so much man, and I was impressed. Anthony Richardson found out he may undergo season-ending surgery. He has gotten five opinions, from what I understand. Trying to find that one. There is strong, like several of the medical opinions he's received, says he will be better off getting the surgery and starting fresh next year. That's super disappointing because we don't even really know what he is. I mean, we've.

We have got to see, what, one full game? And was that even a full game? Because he got concussed at the end of it? No, the concussion was week two. The week one was he hurt his leg on a goal line run. But he came out for a little while. He played 96% of snaps. Okay. So, I mean, we've seen very little of Richardson. But here's the truth. Gardner Minshu is a better quarterback for... Michael Pittman and Josh Downs. For sure. And Josh Downs is like legitimately a PPR start worthy player at this point. Yeah. And Gardner was not good. Oh man. He was not good for the Colts yesterday. No, he may provide for Downs in Pittman, but he looked really awful. Yeah. Anytime he tried to go down the field more than 10 yards, it was an absolute catastrophe. But he's also a really slow scrambler, man. Yeah.

But it's about 14 targets. Nine for 109 for Michael Pittman. That is that's a okay, man. And we'll take that. And downs. Got the touchdown. Downs got the touchdown, which was important because he took his eight targets and turned it into 21 yards. Yeah, PPR. Clil Herbert went on IR. Man, there's a lot of injury news. That was today's news and knows presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. I will say that I did some scientific studies this weekend. Nice. What we learned. As they relate to fantasy football and the unobserved player rule that I mentioned, where if you watch your opponent's players will do really well, I couldn't watch the second half of last night's game. And it was the most pathetic performance of my fantasy football life because...

I was playing a video game with Papa Josh during the second half because you had Stefan Diggs, I had James Cook. And I knew I was going to lose, so I just couldn't go through it. And I didn't watch and I won. You did. So don't watch football people. By a point and a half. By a point and a half. And I may or may not have been asking Josh to check his phone over and over again. What's the score? What's the score? But I wouldn't watch. For science. For science. Well, I watched, so. There you go. We have a control. We do. This is fact. Look away. A couple times I looked at the screen, Stefan Diggs caught passes. We're going to need to test this out with like a mirror. Like if you watch the game. Through a mirror? Through a reflection. Ooh. Does that cancel out the bad juju? Or even go all the way to the opposite. And all of a sudden, it's great juju. Hmm. It would change everybody's handedness. Yes. And the score will look funny.

We did get breaking news just now. The Broncos might be making a change on defense. What? According to the Pat McAfee show, Rex Ryan could take over as the defensive coordinator for the Broncos. That'll go well. If you want to form the most polarizing team in the history of the NFL, put Russ, Rex, and Peyton together. Delightful. Hey, there were some studs. We're going to talk about them right now. This week's fantasy stud muffins. Does anybody have lighter teeth than Rex Ryan? No. Has he, is that world record stuff? Yes, that is. His teeth are actually LEDs. People don't realize that, but they are. Is some of that sphere technology from Vegas? Exactly right. Those are the ones. Yeah, he lights them up. Have you never noticed this, Mike? I'm looking at it right. This is great teeth.

Well, yeah. These are like Ross from friends teeth, man. Are these real? No. Oh, no. You can't. Have you ever seen teeth like that in the history of when he went in looking at humans before? No, of course those aren't real. They showed them like different hues you can get the veneers in and he said LED's. He took a white out out of his pocket and he filled in one of the color pallets said that's what I'm looking for. I mean, those things, they're good for the defense because it will distract the offense from the sideline. Did it blind him? To a tongue of eye low, a 21 for 31, 262 and 3. All in the first half, really. He now leads the NFL in passing yards, yards per attempt. He has 14 passing touchdowns. He is on pace for 5,300 passing yards and 40 touchdowns. And that doesn't seem like enough. Absurd. Like it's not, you know, sometimes we look at these, uh,

For instance, we'll talk about him soon. But when you look at projections over a certain period of time, they can be outlandish. I believe that will be very true for Mr. Adam Thielen, the youngest. Oh, keep dogging him. Oh, what? Keep dogging him. I haven't been dogging him in weeks. I will. I will continue. That's Mike's job. I mean, this guy is on fire, but his. Dynasty superstar. His pace since week one. is almost 1,700 yards, 160 receptions, 1,689 yards. And you're right, the pace won't continue for Thielen, which I might as well bring him up. I mean, he was a monster this week. But what's nice is Carolina's going to be in that situation all year long. He is just set up for what Bryce Young needs. I saw a picture that said it was like on the, it was like a door to an office. And it was Bryce Young.

PPR department. And then there was a picture on the wall and it said, Employee of the Month, Adam Thielen. Because it's just perfect for that team. But Tua, 5,340, if they keep playing like this, sure. I mean, Philadelphia next week. That's a good matchup. That's great news. When Caroline went up 14-0, I was thrilled. Oh, for sure. I told Mike it go, awesome. This is great news. Yeah, I knew it was bad news for me. Jared Gough, 30 for 44 and 353 and 2. Jared Garf. On the road. Road Garf. Yeah. And now he gets to take on the Baltimore Ravens, followed by the Raiders, completing a career high 70% of his passes. Got Alman Raaback? Yeah. And he got Jameson Williams with one of the funniest touchdown bomb receptions that you will ever see. This was like, it was almost.

on like full NFL bloopers moment of the ball is in the air and Jameson Williams is turning his head left and right. He has no idea where the ball is. One final turn and the pass was just so good that it just lands right in his arms. I mean, he made a great play after that, but he looked so inept. for all the moments before it. He drops so many passes that the contrast between him making that catch. But golf is the quarterback four and six point leagues. And this is why you want to be attached to the best offenses in football. And like legitimately, if David Montgomery misses time for Jared Goff, I mean, who is, I didn't know it's probably, Craig Reynolds will be the hammer, but how effective is Craig Reynolds going to be? Right. You're saying they might give.

Goff more chances to throw the football. This is probably, I don't know if this is a move on, sell high moment. I think maybe you just want to keep playing Jared Goff. I saw so many puns related to how bad Jalen Hertz was. But here he is in the studs. Still 280 and 3 in terms of fantasy football. And yes, he made some terrible. 280 and 1. The 3 is the interceptions. Oh, that's right. 280 and 1, but he scored on the ground, 847. He played poor and the Jets played great. But for fantasy, he was very good because when you get a rushing touchdown, it's extremely helpful. All right. Let's take a quick break and talk about some running backs. Rahim the dream. Rahim must start. Rahim most touchdowns. It is out of control. 17 for 115 and 2. Did you say he's got 11 touchdown? He has 11. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

And since 2000, there are only a handful of running backs that have 11 in the first six games. Priest Holmes two times LT, Delvin Cook, and now Rahim. Most. I'm willing to bet he's the oldest of the guys that have done that. I tweeted this morning, I have a dynasty team with Josh Allen, Christian McCaffrey, and Josh Jacobs that has been 100% carried by two players that not a soul in a dynasty league would have wanted to throw a third round pick at. You try. You try. I mean, Adam Thielen and Rahim Mostert put up like 70 points for me or something. It's not fair. I find it wonderful. Kyron Williams, second half, dominance. 20 for 158 and 1. I think in the first half, he was two for five. They forgot to run. Yeah, for whatever reason. I mean, maybe they're like Cooper cuts back, let's go, real, real pass heavy. And then they started giving Kyron Williams the ball in the second half.

I don't know what the number is, but just watching it was, this guy is averaging about three yards before contact. And the defense knows they're going to run the ball. Like they weren't hiding anything. It was a, it was, hey, hey, Arizona, we're going to run again. And they're like, okay, okay, we could stop at this. Nope. No, they could not stop anything. This Arizona defense has collapsed. They came out in the second half and I believe they had a drive that was basically entirely run. Yes. They just. ran the ball like nine times in a row, just stop us. Oh, you can't? Including a rushing touchdown that had three defenders on top of Kyron Williams, and they could not bring him down. Yeah, Sean McVeigh was just glowing about Kiron's performance in the second half. ETN has been dominant. Travis E.TN, two more touchdowns. He is the RB3 on the season. How many yards? Go ahead. Derek Henry, 12 for 97. Take it while you can.