If you missed the birth of the Unter nickname, because we started calling Justin Herbert, Justin Erbert. Yeah, but that's gone now. So we just dropped the H, which meant we had to drop the H for Hunter. I believe you mean Hunter. It's fabulous. Yeah, I think we're very sophisticated. Yes. Yeah.
Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Jason Gets Dunked On! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23
Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Jason Gets Dunked On! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23
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129 passagesYou heard the very nice music for the Monday Punday. That should tell you everything you need to know. Yes, yes. And Eric Ebron had a big game. And this next guy in the list. Do you want to dunk on Jason? No, Jason has to read it. Okay. Dalton Schultz. I thought you wanted me to read it. Yeah. Somehow got four for 25. He had 25 yards in the game. So.
I think I was so Dalton Schultz was in play Dalton Schultz was whatever he got he got in the end zone he was in play and that's dumb and I hope you didn't start him and instead started my start of the week Dallas got her because he did way better I like that thank you thank you stinkers of the week presented by odor eaters all right thank goodness I pivoted off of Matthew Stafford that game was
That game was rough on office. He lost Amandola as well as, you know, Kenny Galladay not being out there. And this was just gross. No, and Swift. Right. No Swift. No Goladay. No Amandola. No points. They scored zero in the game. And that is bad for fantasy. Right. If you liked Adrian Peterson, if you've got an addiction, you're trying to get over like myself and you started Carry on Johnson, it didn't work out because.
Exactly. Nothing really matters. To be fair, Marvin Jones had a spectacular touchdown that was called back on a ticky-tack garbage penalty. So if your league counts almost points, that would be nice. No, no, no, you're right. Just to give context to the game. I felt so bad because Matthew Stafford also has a hurt thumb. And he threw that touchdown and he's running down the field, which is jubilation and joy.
That was stripped from him. Matt Ryan, uh, Rulio 11, not in play here. 19, that's pretty bad. 19 for 30, on second run through, I'm out. I'm out. Rule 11, we'll leave it there. 19 for 37 though. And, uh, ooh, that hamstring, Julio, Julio is this just perfect physical specimen with this hamstring. That's just not, it's not fair. Yeah, it's, I mean, he, the thing is, though, is.
Julio keeps coming back off these injuries and dominates, and, you know, he'll do it again. But he is getting up there in age. Yep. So you always worry. Yeah. He's made sure to let you worry for years, too. Running back stinkers. Let's break it down. Concern level for Miles Sanders, 16 for 66, no touchdowns. Yeah, none. He.
was on his way to score a touchdown and fumbled. If you watched the game at all, you would have seen the Philadelphia Cleveland game. It was a marshy wet mess, and it led to a lower output in fantasy production for most people. Yeah, he still got 16 carries and three receptions. Yeah, I mean, I'm not worried at all. He had over 80 yards. It was certainly a very disappointing game.
that stunk, but he didn't look bad and there were reasons for it and the volume was there. So you're not worried. If you wonder if Joe Mixing, David Johnson are any good, just look at what their backups can't do when they're gone. Geo Duke Duke. I thought you were saying what Geo did. Geo Duke Duke Duke. Duke Duke Duke. Duke Duke. I mean, but this is back-to-back weeks for these guys. I mean, Duke Johnson in particular, everybody, the whole world is.
Oh, Duke Johnson should have been a featureback over his career. 10 for 15, bro. After another, I mean, he's scoring five fantasy points as a starting running back, getting all of the work. Yeah, in a high scoring offense. I mean, I hate to say it, but I'd be playing Melvin Gordon over Duke Johnson. I'll tell you that. Yeah, that is for sure. And Giovanni Bernard, you can play him the next couple weeks. He's a, I don't think you.
I think you can. I worry. Oh, wait. I forgot about, oh, goodness gracious. Yeah. Yeah. Without Burrow, this offense is not going to move. You might have, you know, I haven't gone back specifically and I plan to to go and look because we saw last year, you know, this quarterback, I don't remember how he utilized. Ryan Finley? Yeah, Ryan Finley in the passing game with running backs. Because if Geo could get, you know,
Sure, 7, 8, 9 targets, then he'll be relevant. Gio and Tari Kohn are in the same stage of their career, where they don't have the early career juice that made them explosive. And you put them in these positions, and unless they're getting into the end zone, you're not feeling great. So, J.D. McKissick, JD McKitting, last week. I mean, a million targets this week, just three for 26. Game script, man. Washington.
was handling the game. And that turned into Antonio Gibson actually out snapping Jady McKissick, Dallas on Thanksgiving. That should be a good game. Can you go back to McKissick? I mean, it's only saw four targets, but two of the last three weeks, you know, double digit targets. Yeah, I think you can go back to them. It's not a guarantee. The following week against Pittsburgh, you know they will have to dump the ball off.
a billion times. It'll be for very few yards, but if you're in a PPR, you're certainly not moving on from McKissick as far as, like, roster-wise. Yeah, I mean, at the same time, they're playing Pittsburgh, so you don't feel good. But if you get, if you get 10 receptions, right, and it's 30 yards, that's, I mean, I'm fine with that in my flex. I just don't know if you're guaranteed to get that. That's all I'm saying. Naim Hines or J.D. McKissick, who are you more likely to be back on? Because Heinz. McKissick.
Uh, was just three for, what, 31? Yep, I would go in the kizek. Um, okay, let's talk wide receiver stinkers of the week. Juju's at the top. Happy birthday to the ground. Uh, four for 19. He was going to go off in the fourth. I know it, but he, uh, we went off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, off the field. Yeah.
Oh, is this because you had some confidence with Juju going into the week and now you want to just bury it under the injury? Absolutely. I got my out. DJ Chark, how about this one? Yeah, how about this one? Jake Luton sucks. Yeah, I mean, that's the problem. Four for 41 for DJ Chark. Jake Luton was negative fantasy points in our league format. There were about half the plays that you watch where when you look over to that TV, you see the ball.
flying up like it was, you know, just thrown underhand style backwards, just up in the air. And it was... Oh, like a bride tossing the flowers over her. One hundred thousand. See who gets married next? Because... Which defensive back gets married? That's what happened. Over and over and over as he's getting pushed back or hit or sacked. He just throws these balls up as his arm gets hit. Four members of the secondary are getting married in the next year. That's right. Yeah. Luton was up against it, but...
Does this mean we actually see Gardner again before the end of the year? I mean, one would hope if you want any confidence in anybody on that team. Chark is, you've always got a shot. It's just, it's gross. I mean, you have to get lucky. You have to have, I'm worried that it's like that David Blow long touchdown last year to Kenny Galladay where it's like, oh, everything's going to be fine. Like you had the long touchdown to Chark with the second play from Luton and then it's false confidence. So.
We'll see. Charks a good player. It's just tough when you're not having sustained drives. Same with T. Higgins now, right? T. Higgins is a good player. He had 10 targets. You only had three catches in this game. Washington's a great defense. Yeah, they are. So it was already a tough matchup, and then you lost your franchise quarterback about halfway through. And we are all officially in the just incredible NFCEs. We are officially rooting.
For Alex Smith. Oh, yes. And Ron Rivera. And Ron Rivera to win the division. Yeah. Sorry other NFC East teams. Yeah. Sorry, Travis Fulgum. Seven targets. One catch. Eight yards. It's been.
Bad. Yeah. In his defense, his quarterback is the worst. Oh, no. Carson wins has a head problem. The turns have tabled. The turns have tabled indeed. Because Carson Wince is broken above the shoulders. He is broken right now. And I hope that he gets a great off season and can come back in 2021. And you don't just mean the beard. I don't just mean the beard.
But I mean, he's broken above the beard as well because that he he's got some mental problems every single play in that pocket. How do you take that safety? It's you take it by having a broken braid. There's no way you hold on to that ball for as long as he did while you're in the end zone. Doug Peterson came out quickly, said he's the starter next week, never thought about benching him.
But here's Jalen Hurts. You drafted him. You drafted him. What does that say about Jalen Hurts at practice? Well, I don't know. I think Doug Peterson's committed to the guy, but the fact that you took a quarterback in the second round. This is the opposite of the Aaron Rogers effect, right? It didn't motivate. It was a demotivator. Yeah, it hurts, man. Jarvis? No. I mean, there are no options in the passing game for Cleveland ever.
You can't, you can't, Baker does nothing ever. Right. Here's the thing. This is now three of the last four games. Just horrific weather in Cleveland. I keep asking them to put a roof on it. They refuse. Thankfully, they are on the road next week. At least a tarp. Just let them play football and not have to play some version of it that accounts for. This is their version, though.
This is their victory version. That's how they like it. If you, this is the software. They, they, they, they only want to run the football. So that's fair. I mean, it doesn't matter. And, um, hmm, holly woof. Um, yeah, I mean, I, look, I already took the L weeks ago on, on Hollywolf and I am fine with, he's, he's just gone. I don't care. The, the receiving yards.
The receptions, what we're seeing from Lamar Jackson is Mark Andrews and nobody else. That's the rule. Mark Andrews and nobody else. Move on. Nothing to see here. Jared Cook, Hayden, Hurst, Noah Fan, Austin Hooper, stink, stunk. No good. I think the bigger headline for fantasy players is don't put your confidence in Noah Fandez and every week start. Look for pivot options if the matchups are better, right? He's not a...
I think everybody tries to find the tight end from the beginning of the year where they say, I'm just going to lock them in. I think the important thing with Fantt, with Hearst, who had no catches, is that you're just looking for the right matchup play. Pay attention to when we bring up waiver names. Pay attention to the streaming options at tight end. Hearst. Hearst, like we pointed out, Hurst just seems to be so locked in to needing Julio Jones on the field. I have no idea what.
What dark magic is going on there when Julio is out that Hayden Hurst can't do anything. Yeah, the nice thing is that there is someone coming to the rescue. I'm so excited for this week and I was so upset with myself. I could not make the transaction I wanted to make. I did not have enough roster availability or I would have made it. Someone's coming to the rescue at the tight end position? Someone is coming to the rescue at the tight end position. He's my start of the week and he is the biggest waiver wire pickup this week. I know who it is.
is Jordan freaking read, man. He is healthy. Who picked him up? He's coming off a buy. Did you? No. No, did you? Really? No, you did it, Mike. You're darn right, I did. Nobody did. I was going to, I was going to spend all my fans. Oh, well, no, because I picked him up. Was that your Sunday morning, Sunday morning pickup? That is my Sunday morning pickup. When you drop big men? That is correct.
And you didn't even flex it yesterday? You waited for the show? Oh, my goodness. I had no idea, Mike. I'm so upset right now. So peel back the curtain here. Here's what happened. Oh, my gosh. Oh, this. I didn't know this was going to happen. You don't need them, though, right?
