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Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Jason Gets Dunked On! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23

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Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Jason Gets Dunked On! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23

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And he's been a little bit up and down for fantasy. He, in fact, has three games inside the top 10. And in our league of record, I have faced him in two of those. So thank you, Glad Edwards-A-Layer for dismantling me. Yeah, we found it. Derek Henry, great game. Melvin Gordon, 15 for 84 and 2, and it should have been 3. He fumbled on the one-inch line, which turned him.

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from being a three touchdown running back into two touchdowns with a fumble lost. Eight point swing, and I was happy to have it happen. I was facing Melvin Gordon, which was not great from our own producer, Owl Borland here. But he looked fine. He looked good. And I didn't think that this was a player. You should be starting, really. I didn't, you know, since Philip Lindsay's been back, he's had a lot of bad games. But I will say this.

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despite the fumble as he, you know, that was from like the 10-yard line. It was a great rush. He plowed his way forward and unfortunately for him, fumbled the ball. But he does have a nose for the end zone. When you get down near the goal line, Melvin Gordon is going to get him more often than not. This is an offense that's just hard to count on. I mean, Melvin Gordon, when we brought him up, it was, hey, look, he's going to have opportunities in an offense. But if he doesn't hit, if he doesn't get into the end zone, it's been.

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disappointing. This is the first top 20 finish. Top 20 since week four. So I wouldn't consider it prescriptive, but it is a possibility every time you start somebody that gets, you know, 15 carries. Just let it wash over you. You got a good game. On your bench. Probably. Ezekiel Elliott.

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Okay. Yeah. All right. Okay. Signs a life. Cowboys. Okay. Okay. Okay. We can deal with this. This is seven. We were talking about we wanted like 75% of the DAC Cowboys offense. And I think we got to like. They had been at 7% of the DAC offense. I think we got to 70%. But it was nice to see Andy Dalton there and have a team.

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that was able to move the ball, that was able to pass to Amari Cooper, C.D. Lamb. If Gallup could have stopped dropping the ball, he would have even had a good game, and Zeke had a good game. So maybe there are signs of life to this Cowboys offense that started the year hot that going forward, there's fantasy relevance. Maybe. Antonio Gibson. Oh, baby. 16 for 94 and a touchdown. Still not getting targeted, but it keeps getting into the end zone. We get a seam on Thanksgiving, Mike. He will be the green bean casserole of your afternoon.

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How dare you call Antonio Gibson green bean casserole? He will be the pumpkin pie of the afternoon. Thank you very much. Okay. J.K. Dobbins, was this a breakout game for Dobbins? 15 for 70 and a touchdown. Hopefully. Watching the game, all three of us noticed early on in the game, just how incredible he looked, how bad Markingham looked. And then as the game went on, all of a sudden, it was.

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Dobbins. And then it was Dobbins. And then it was, this wasn't a three-headed timeshare where it was 33, 33. Dobbins was getting the ball. Now, this could be an Indianapolis Colts hot hand situation where they saw what we saw. And they said, hey, we just want Dobbins. And next week, whoever it is is, you know, maybe it's a different guy. Next week they say JK. But, oh, very nice. No, I like that one. Just move on, though. Let it, let it be funny and get going. Get going.

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Should we analyze that joke? No. Mark Ingram was two for two, by the way. Gus Edwards, three for six. Yeah. Hopefully this is the breakout that we wanted or that fantasy players have been hoping for all year from J.K. Dobbins. Unfortunately, he gets to play the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pass. This week. So that is a brutal.

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decision to make. Let me make the argument here for you. This is a division game against an undefeated team. This is your hardest opponent. That's an Ingram game. Good point. To me, that's, you have to use whoever is the best player, not who's your veteran. Like, Ingram has stunk. And J.K. Dobbins gives you your best chance to win against the most difficult defense. I think this, I mean, I'm not saying, oh,

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It's going to be great. If he gets 15 carries against the Steelers, maybe he does nothing with it. But I believe that the change is real. All right. I'll believe it with another one. If he performs in this game, I'll be on board. More confident about J.K. Dobbins moving forward or more confident about Jonathan Taylor? Oh, that's a good question. At least with Jonathan Taylor, we've seen it a lot.

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We saw it the whole first half of the year where he wasn't, you know, doing what we wanted, which is a top five dominant back, but he was always relevant. He was top 24 every single week. And then after the buy, he had a couple games where it was like he wasn't getting on the field. In fact, in the beginning of this game, it was like, wait a minute, the first drive was Heinz and then it was Wilkins, but they did move to Taylor. I think I would be more confident with Jonathan Taylor just because we've seen it a lot through the season. And this was just the second time that

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Jonathan Taylor, old Johnny Taylor, had seen over 20 carries. I mean, they finally gave him the workload. Yeah, previous week, seven, six, 11, and then this past week, they were in a position where they leaned on him, the mittens. He was putting the mittens on, and he had a good game. Someone shipped him. All right, wide receiver studs, Adam Thielen. That catch for his touchdown reception, his one-hander,

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45 degree angle and then managed to tap the two toes. That catch was phenomenal. We have eight televisions on plus a middle TV. So we have nine TVs. Got all the games on. The ball's thrown into, you remember what I'm going to say? Yes. The ball's thrown into the corner of the end zone to Thielin. And we're trying to monitor all these games. I see where the ball is. I see the corner of the end zone. I see him put one hand up. I turn away to the other games.

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I know that that's not a catch. I come back, and Mike's like, he caught that for a touchdown. I couldn't believe it. Keenan Allen, 19 targets, 16 for 145 in one. I'll give the hit man some credit here. He begged you, Footcline. He begged you to go pick up Keenan Allen weeks ago because he knew what was coming. He talked about the schedule. He talked about what Herbert's doing, which is just targeting Keenan Allen every play that he can, which is almost every play.

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Goodness, I wish, I don't have a single share of Keenan Allen through all my leagues and I'm a worst man for it. This is the, you ever play a sports video game and you're the guy that wants to like run the whole offense and then you play against somebody that's like, I've got two plays that always work.

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And the guy who wants to be the holistic run the whole offense always loses to the guy who runs the two plays that never fail. Yeah, it feels like when you're just spamming the same playing mad. It's working. And you're like, well, why do you keep doing that play? Stop it. How about you stop the play? It reminds me of when Brandon Marshall was at the top of his game and Jay Cutler would target him 20 times a game because if you can throw it to Keenan Allen and he's always open and catches it, it's really what you should do.

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And he's one of the best. So incredible game from Keenan Allen, and it will continue. Tyreek Hill, 11 for 102 and 1. DJ Moore showed up in a big way with PJ Walker. Asked it Curtis Samuel. Yeah, 10 targets for Samuel, 11 for more. And we have been in the ho-hum game territory for Robbie Anderson for quite some time. Is DJ Moore the better player to roster end of season?

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I mean, he certainly has the bigger upside weekly, but what has Robbie Anderson been doing? Robbie Anderson's been getting a ton of targets and not doing much with it. He had nine targets this game. I mean, that's fantastic. Yeah, I would take that. Yeah, ended the game with seven receptions. Yeah, I'll take that too. That's great.

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46 yards. Every week is like this lately, though. I mean, it's unbelievable because this is a guy who's got the speed, who's got the downfield. You know, before he came to this team, he was always a down the field guy, you know, 20-yard receptions, left, right, and center. And now, I mean, if you have seven receptions, a pretty bad game is 70 yards, 10 yards of reception. That's like, oh, man, that's not good. He almost had half of that. Yeah, I think he's been very hard to.

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Like, I benched him for Mark Anderson in the league because I was worried about PJ Walker. And Robbie Anderson is, let me just read you as fantasy finishes since the nice start, okay? Week six on 31, 38, 44, 36, 6436. So he's not been inside the top 30. So you've got to understand that's the route tree he's running. I think that the real takeaway that we can all, you know, grasp on to is.

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PJ Walker was fine. PJ Walker had a, at least a few dimes that he threw out there. And this, it's not a complete surprise. He dominated in the XFL. The question was, you know, can you dominate the XFL and will that translate over to the NFL? And PJ Walker can get it done. If Teddy Bridgewater has to miss another game, you could confidently start DJ Moore against the Minnesota Vikings. And you could probably.

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confidently start Curtis Samuel as well. The PJ to DJ you're into that? Yeah. Okay. Nelson Aguilar looks great on the field. It's mostly. It's crazy. He still gives you a Philly style drop once a game, but he is just pretty explosive and certainly the better wide receiver start in Las Vegas compared to Henry Ruggs. Tyler Lockett, Thursday game was great. Here's a player to talk about. Player I traded for at the deadline.

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16 targets for Deontay Johnson, 12 for 11. Oh, me, oh my. And he look, he's just awesome. His routes are great. He's great at catching the ball. His only thing that he really needs to work on is staying healthy. But when he's out there on the field, I remember over the first couple weeks, we kept telling people, you hold on to him, he's going to be the guy, he's going to be awesome. We saw that in week one, but then he was injured and people were frustrated. Well, if you stayed the course.

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You are very happy because week in and week out, Deonti Johnson is a must start player. When you look at the targets per game, he's up there with absolutely every. I mean, he's there with, you know. Yeah, he's the lead. And he's had it. And Hopkins and top 10 finishes in three of the last five games. And it's been impressive. One of the keys of saying healthy, don't step on the flag.

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Did you know that? Yes. Don't step on the flag that the referee throws. Is that what happened to Juju? Juju went down with the ankle injury after stepping on the flag on his birthday. Also, happy birthday. Here's a step on this. Don't throw flags at the players. I blame the ref. So he, Juju, they're not expecting long-term injury with that, but he was in some pain. And I think we'd all probably start Deontay one.

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I'd start Claypool 2, Juju 3. Jefferson, Justin Jefferson, big play guy, 3 for 86 and a touchdown. One of my favorite guys to watch play football right now. Mike Williams, the 4-4-4-4. Let's not lose that in this game. He was heavily targeted, did not get in the end zone, but they did take a shot at him, one of the Devante Adams style.

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screens it just got stuffed but also the nine for 104 that i feel like that was decently early in the game you know they they were able to run the clock they had the lead and but uh the when when he dropped back to throw the ball it was definitely michael thomas was his first and second read and then it was run tight ends Travis kelsey Darren waller mark andrews great great great

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This week. Nice to see. Dallas Goddard. Jason started the week. Five for 77 and a touchdown. About time. We saw something out of him. And Richard Rogers was like, I'm here too. Two for 48 in a touchdown. That's great for a tight end. Both stiff arming Travis Fulglam on their way to the end zone. Do we believe in Unter as a weekly smash?

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Yes, I believe in Unter, Enri, as a weekly smash because he had another end zone target in this game that he could have come down with and seems like with Herbert passing for that quantity. You talk about the pie and how small the pie is in Baltimore. The pie is huge. That's a huge pie. It's a huge pie in Los Angeles. He's a growing boy needs to eat. Yeah. Unter is by far my favorite nickname of this season. Is it? Because it's so stupid. Yes.

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