It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's probably up to like 18 fractures now. The fact that his, like when he got up from that injury, his face looked like a little bit off. Like something might be wrong. It definitely looked a bit pale. I didn't realize how tough he was then. I mean, that's amazing. Yeah, I mean, he already was dealing with some rib problems and they just got compounded.
Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Jason Gets Dunked On! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23
Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Jason Gets Dunked On! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/23
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129 passagesOr fractured. We have this from Al Borland because this is the kind of research we are producers do for us. The vast majority of people have 12 sets or 24 ribs. Hold on. Hold on. There's a key point in this sentence. The vast majority? As in there's an anomaly when it comes to ribs? I wonder is people born with certain conditions may have too many or too few ribs. Oh, okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. No matter their sex. Can we do, how do you count how many ribs you got?
You just, well, I can't do it. I'm too ticklish. Need the xylophone handles. I can't, I go one, two, three, ah, I got three ribs. You just turned into the Pillsbury doughboy. I felt more like the Tutsi pop owl. Yes. Oh, one, two, three. I've got three ribs. Jason's got three. All right, we settled that.
The 49ers on by did place Brandon Ayyuk on the reserve COVID list, something to pay attention to. They should have Debo back, right, after this break? They should, yes. Okay, okay. You guys want to talk some studs? Yes, please. This week's fantasy stud muffins. All right, I've got to give some props to my co-host here, Jason Muir, who just absolutely smashed his start of the week pick.
And I'll be honest, when you mentioned it, I was a little worried for you. Deshaun Watson against New England, getting Stefan Gilmore back. You know, you brought up the fact you thought he'd have a good game. But you also brought up the fact New England generally doesn't give up fantasy points to the quarterback. And yet you stuck with it. You dug in. And here's Deshaun Watson going for 3.44 and 2 with a rushing touchdown on top of that. Had an outstanding game. He's currently the QB4 and fantasy points per game from week five on.
Yeah, he's been outstanding. I mean, he's a smash every week play, and the only game where he wasn't, you know, unbelievable. He was still the quarterback 16. That was the horrific 35-mile-an-hour wind game. I don't even know how he was the quarterback 16 in that weather. Outside of that game, he's been top 10 every week, and half of those weeks, top six, and two of those weeks, top one.
He's been the number one. Somewhere in the top one. Somewhere in the top one to one. All right. I'm not sure who's more in love with Justin Herbert, Mike or myself, but we're both vying for his attention. Another spectacular week. One of us was never proclaiming a shoe would drop.
Oh, it's Mike. Mike wins. Mike 100% wins. There is, oh, man, Andy hates Justin Herbert. Yeah, take that loser. You never believed in him. 37 for 49, 366 and 3. You heard it here first. Justin Herbert will never have a bad game in the National Football League. He is so fun to watch. I tweeted this morning my all favorite players to watch play football team.
Herbert's that quarterback. He's just got a sniper rifle. I mean, he's just, other than Patrick Mahomes, threading the needle on some of these throws, running to your left, the touchdown to Keenan Allen was like... It was a teleportation ball. It was unfathomable. And you know what good quarterbacks, good young quarterbacks do? They throw the ball to their best players because it gives them the best chance of success.
How many targets to Keenan have from Justin Herbert? I don't know. Almost 20. I think it was 82. 82 targets. Now, do you worry about long term, do you worry about teen targets? 19. Wow. Do you worry about Keenan Allen's ribs just being shattered by the football? He's throwing a little hard there.
I wouldn't be surprised, but no, Justin Herbert, another outstanding game. He could very well win people fantasy championship. I mean, for sure. He's winning people games right now. So here's an interesting question. We have a super team in our League of Record who has Kyler Murray and Justin Herbert. And so he plays Kyler Murray every week, right? That's what you do. Of course. Who do you play this week? This week, you know, you've got the Buffalo matchup, which is not bad, I don't think, for Justin Herbert.
And you've got the New England Patriots for Kyler with a bum's shoulder. Would you be bold enough to bench Kyler for Sherbert? No, all right. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think I'm bold enough. I think I might be. I think would you do that, Mike? No, I'm going to drop for Herbert. Oh, man. You heard of here. Mike hates. Never. No Cinderella problems here. Oh, my. He's not turning into a pumpkin against Buffalo. Maybe the next week against New England will be the test.
If he torches New England, I will be, because that is the perfect, there are certain teams, right? The Steelers. The shoe bowl. The Steelers and the Patriots in particular and the Ravens. If those defenses go up against a rookie quarterback, they disintegrate them. If Herbert takes care of New England, you know. Just give him the rookie of the year. No pumpkin, yeah. Tayson Hill. Hooper.
Went 18 for 23 for 23. Is that a brother and a bro? It was a whole brother. It was a who bro. He went 10 for 51 and 2 on the ground. You know, this was a pretty impressive game. I think specifically protecting the football when passing. You know, no interceptions was key here.
If you're on ESPN and you were dealing with Taysom Hill as a tight-end eligible player, I believe that will end this week. He will be moved out of tight-end eligibility. He's not there in other platforms. But it was a nice ride, and you're going to have to think about Tastom Hill as a quarterback. You do need to think about it. I mean, you could probably just plug him right in, 10 for 51 and 2 scores on the ground. That's the type of stuff we like to see from our streaming fantasy quarterbacks. Atlanta, though, it...
While they had been playing, they had a couple rally games once Dan Quinn was fired. The real Atlanta Falcons defense has been showing back up. So it's, I'm not crowning Taysam Hill just yet. So I would crown Taysam Hill as a weekly start because of the rushing capability, the same way that, you know, you would start Lamar Jackson. And you saw greatness last year. But the same way that Lamar Jackson is moving the football against this Atlanta defense.
He still only threw for 233 yards. You divide that up when almost everything is going to Michael Thomas. And I think there should be worry for other options in the offense. I had dropped Jared Cook. I was fine with that after the game. But Alvin Camara is the real question mark here because the scheme with Taysam Hill versus the scheme with Drew Brees is very different of the pocket is collapsing. The play is breaking down. It's been one and a half seconds.
it's usually a dump off to Camara, but now TASM is moving in the pocket, scrambling. A lot of designed rollouts already where, you know, when's the last time you saw a designed rollout for Drew Brees? They're not too often. Well, this was the first time in his career that Alvin Camara did not catch a pass. And you're talking about bringing up Lamar Jackson is a great point because when a quarterback can run, they're not just looking to dump off to the running back.
Drew Brees dumping the ball off to Alvin Kamara. That's his version of being a mobile quarterback. When you don't have to take that option because you personally can run, look at the receptions for Lamar Jackson's running backs. They pretty much don't exist. And we've talked about the fact that Deshaun Watson. Yeah. Same thing. Latavius Murray gets a lot of work on the ground. And we were, I was kind of shocked in particular with Tayson Hill being under center so often. There was not a lot of shotgun for Tayson Hill where.
You know, the flare out from Alvin Camara is a lot more conducive to that situation than it is, you know, play action passing, simplifying the offense. And Michael Thomas, like, we shouldn't underestimate the value of Michael Thomas being back in the offense, at least contributing to the volume that Alvin Camara would have gotten in the passing game potentially from Drew Brees. But no, this was not a coincidence that the first time in his career this happens, Tason Hills to quarterback. Yeah.
But what do you do? I mean, it's not like you're not playing Alvin Camara. He was still the running back 22, but that was on the back of his touchdown because you saw 14 opportunities, which is not that uncommon for Alvin Camara, but 13 carries and one target. If your trade deadline is still open, I am looking to shop him based on the name and people not realizing because he had a good game. It wasn't like he was terrible. You're talking about Camara? Yes.
I would be willing to try to capitalize shift. I guess I'm wondering who. Yeah. Because, I mean, what names other than Delvin Cook can you overtly say I'd rather have than Alvin Camara? Derek Henry. You aren't getting Derek Henry for. Sure. Yeah, no, you might not. But I'm just saying if you can pivot to a top option, even an Aaron Jones. A toption. Yeah, topption, as we say. Rivers, Cousins, Rogers, Carr, all nice games. Rogers is solidified every week right now is.
An absolute stud, and Rivers got another victory. And shout out to the Raiders fans out there, because I thought you were going to get... Andy's raised the sand. I thought you were going to get boat raced, and apparently you are the Kryptonite for the Kansas City Chiefs, almost winning that game. Almost. You know. They won the first matchup. They almost won last night, and they have a nice record. I mean, Cryptonite doesn't...
usually win. Superman still prevails, but it's like, oh, man, that really is. For an episode, for an episode, Cryptonite seems like it's winning. That's right. Okay. Before we move into our running back, studs of the week, Foot Clan, you know what we've been talking about head and shoulders nonstop this season. This episode of the fantasy footballers is brought to you by Head and Shoulders and Walmart because it's all about taking it up to 100. That's what Head and Shoulders is doing.
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slash footballers. All right, running backs. Let's talk about some big time performances. Hey, Delvin Cook, he's good. He played well and he should be in your lineup. But what about Clyde? Clyde Edwards, hello. He got it done. It was his first multi-touchdown game. All you had to do is play against him in fantasy, Mike. Yeah. Clyde Edwards Allaire. I mean, it's on record. He's my dude. I love Clyde Edwards, a lair.
