39 for 448 and 3. That's a 16-game season of 78 receptions, 8, 996 yards and six touchdowns. Right. So it's, I didn't realize it was that bad. Well, I mean, we all felt it. I feel like we can carve up a lot of the, we can cut up a lot of people's seasons.
This or That: Dynasty Edition + Wildcard Reactions, Brain Caverns
This or That: Dynasty Edition + Wildcard Reactions, Brain Caverns
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107 passagesthat way but when you look at the not so nicely right in half like adam feeling did for us we usually got to use a jigsaw all right and his he just yeah that's i mean it's fair but awesome wide receiver three that's brutal all right i mean he's play that's the other thing uh hilton battled injuries all year long thielin's been consistent been out there i'm gonna take hilton all right brooks split the difference for us who you taking t y wow wow
You guys, you guys in your recency. In Hilton's favor, Andrew Luck is, he's the long-term solution for Indianapolis. Oh, Kirk Cousins is too. He has to be. You think he'll be there? He has to be. No, he's going to be there for two more years. Wasn't it a four-year deal? No, I thought it was three. Three years, 84? I'll verify that. I just want to add in, I had Thielen is 29. He's actually 28.
Guys. Oh, Brooks! That changes everything. Does it? No. Okay. I'll tell you killed. Yeah, it was a three-year deal. If you told Brooks that it did change everything, he would be so sad right now. He would be like, what have I done? His brain caverns ringing. His brain caverns. Ding-ling-ling-ling. Alan Robinson or Jarvis Landry? This or that? Alan Robinson, Jarvis Landry. Mike, are you going to relay any of that Baker excitement into Jarvis? Jarvis just 25 years old? Or are you going with...
I'm sorry, that's Alan Robinson this 25. Jarvis is 26. Jarvis has never missed a game. That's nice because Alan Robinson's, he's missed a lot. I think I take, man. I think I take Alan Robinson. Yeah, I do too. This one is... This season was difficult with Jarvis. It really was. It was a hard season for Jarvis Landry. And Landry, four touchdowns. That's what Robinson had on the season. We saw the big playoff game. Look, it's close.
Let me ask you a different question. All right. What's your waist size? No, not really. Here's the real question. Who do you want on your team in the NFL? Is it the same answer? Wow. Or do you go with somebody different? Robinson was hurt this year. So his finish was worse than what Landry's was. I think Robinson makes a bigger impact on your team. Really? When you're getting good Alan Robinson.
which we've seen very, very small amounts of. His sophomore year was incredible. Bits and pieces of this game were also, of this season were incredible. Meanwhile, Jarvis, his correlation, when Baker was actually succeeding, Jarvis was frequently doing nothing. He did have a couple games over 100, a couple games with a touchdown.
during that second half of the season. Yeah, 81 receptions off of the 112 he had in Miami. I mean, do you see him repeating 100 reception season again? You think that's in the cards? I definitely think it's possible as Baker gets better and better. And the ceiling. And they give him more. The ceiling of Baker Mayfield is a lot higher than Trubisky's to me. This or that, Jarvis or Robinson, Brooks? Hey, Rob.
Barely. I'm going to take Jarvis. Yeah, I'm going to take Jarvis just by a little bit, just because of Baker-Macon, Baker-Mayfield. Amari Cooper or Brandon Cooks. This or that, Dynasty Edition. Brooks, these are hard. Amari Cooper, 24 years of age, which is surprising. Brandon Cook's 25. Both of them have played on multiple teams. Brandon Cooks this past year.
16 games played, 117 targets, 80 receptions, 1,200 yards, and he basically, 5 touchdown. He's technically 16 games played, but he had the game where he got knocked out right at the very beginning, so that's 15 games of production. Amari Cooper ended up 15 games, 107 for 75 and 1,000 and 1,000 and 1,000, 7. 75 targets. Yeah, what did I say? You said 107. I'm sorry, 75 receptions, 1,0005 yards, 7 touchdowns. And this is... This is not very close from me.
Really? No, I'll take Brandon Cook. Every single year, Brandon Cooks does the same thing, and every single year people don't want to trust them. Remember this year? Yes. Oh, yeah, I was out. Look, the past four seasons, 129 targets, 117, 114, 117. Catches, 84, 78, 65, 80. Brandon Cooks is definitely the safer guy in this equation. You're going to be happy, even if Amari's end-of-season numbers are better than Brandon Cooks, which they have never been.
Let's remember that. Maybe. No, they really haven't. He had one year in Oakland where he was 11, 53, and 5. The last four seasons for Brandon Cooks, 9, 8, 7, 5 touchdowns. And, you know, when he had 5, he had 1,200 yards. So I don't think you can make it. So even if you're happier, even if you look at the end of the season and Cook's finished lower, I think you're just happier with Cooks on the course of this season. Right. Or the way Amari Cooper drops those big boy games and then disappears.
That's where I'd go. Yeah, and I think Cooks is the safer guy. He's going to be more consistent for your team. But he's also not necessarily the number one. There will never be a number one on the Rams. That's just not how the offense works. That hasn't stopped him from being awesome this year for fantasy purposes. But Amari Cooper, you got.
You got some glimpses of what that ceiling could be as the alpha guy. Isn't that what you try to talk me out of though, Mike? Yes. That's a narrative argument where it's like, that's why I avoided wide receiver twos in years past. It's because of the glimpse, the great glimpse of the number one. Right. We've had, we've had four years of Amari. Do you, are you telling me right now you want them on your fantasy team? Yes, I do. I do want him on my fantasy team. I'm going to take cooks over him.
So here's a Murray Cooper for you. Last five weeks of the season. 34 fantasy points. That's very good. Nine and a half. 45. That's incredible. 643. What was Cooks? In those games? Because the end of the season was not great for Brandon Cooks. Yeah. 7.7 and 20. I'll take Cooper's numbers over those. Not over the last three weeks, but over the last five you're saying? Yeah.
Yeah. Trust me. I had Cooks on my playoff team. And he... 387.20. His beginning of the year was a lot better than the end. You would have expected better from him with no Cooper Cup. Oh, yeah? But that's kind of the problem you're saying is Cooks has never been able to be that number one all by himself. So who are you taking? I'm taking Cooks. I'll take Cooks. Brooks? You're going to go hometown guy? Cooper. Yeah, you would. All right. Tight in. All right.
Evan Ingram or David Injoku. This is a good one. David and Joku is so young, 22 years old. Evan Ingram, 24 years old. Evan the Enigma. Evan Ingram is only held back by a lack of targets. Enigram. No. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to get it there. Just give me a moment. No, you're not. Brooks.
No. Brooks won't even look at it. I'll go back into the lab. He's giving you that Matt Nagy wins. There's something there. There's nothing there at all. Give me David Injoki. Over Evan Engram? Yes. Oh, goodness. I think that the ceiling is yet to be seen for David and Joku. I can agree with that. But you had a great year from Evan Ingram rookie season 64, 722 and 6. I think that the ceiling for Engram, we haven't seen it either.
It's kind of crazy, though, to look at these numbers. But they can't get them going with Beckham. That's the problem. So infuriating. Look, David Injoku is a, man, you'd think they'd both be huge red zone weapons at their size. But I feel like. Engram's actually not huge. Injoku is built to be more of a red zone target. So I think overall, if you're looking, projecting a career, I mean, I think you're going to have, year and year out, David and Joku is going to come down with more touchdowns. Engram's only 6'3.
Yeah, and Joku's over 8 feet tall. Him and Moe-Hally Cox. Well, he can jump to over 30 feet tall. The only man who can high-five Moly Cox standing up is David and Joku. That's right. But look, David and Joku, 56 for 639 and 4. That's not very far off of that rookie year pace of Evan Ingram, and he's two years younger. He's on a team that has an established quarterback. This is Dynasty. It's not just next season. And in a dynasty format, I'll take the younger.
better red zone player with the quarterback that I believe in for a long period of time. Yeah, the quarterback really helps out David Injoku's case, but I'm going to take Evan Engram. Brooks, this or that? I'll go with Injoku. All right. Here's another interesting one. Kenny Goliday or Robert Woods. Robert Woods was on many people's...
you know, fantasy MVP list this year for what he did. 70 receptions, over 1,000 yards, five touchdowns despite missing three games. Kenny Golliday had the breakout year, right? Did I just give you Kenny Gulladay's number? You gave Kenny Gulladay's numbers. That makes so much more sense. I think they were masquerading as Robert Woods, though. I was really confused. I was like, man, that's not as impressive. Woods was 86 for 1219 and 6. Yes. Goladay was 70 for 1063 and 5.
and missed the three games. So Goladay, more prototypical wide receiver one size, 25 years old, 119 targets, Robert Woods breakout season. A lot of people, you look, Woods has been in the league for what will be, this will be a seventh season. Goladay, at nearly the same age, only his third season coming up. Who would you rather have? I mean, better offense, obviously, in Los Angeles.
Yeah, this is a very difficult one for me. It is a very difficult one because this is almost identical to the Amari Cooper, Brandon Cook's dilemma where Kenny Gallaudet could take, he could take another step. Galaday is eight. He could be a 1,300 8 to 10 touchdown guy. Yeah, as I was going to say, he's a double-digit touchdown guy in the waiting. That's what I think. He's just too big. Too big, too strong. Great body control.
Great body. Yeah, I mean, smooth. The smooth is. So smooth. We hadn't factored in the smooth. Yes. Routes. Robert Woods, a little rough. A little coarse to the touch. Out of tune sometimes. Some people call him Robert Sandpaper Woods because he's so rough. But he was much better than Kennedy Gallaudet is here. So where, yeah. I think I'll take burden to hand with Robert Woods.
I'm going to take the two in the bush then. I'm going to take Kenny Goliday. Kenny G. Give me the saxophone. And just hope that's all you need. I just hope he's ascending still. Brooks, let's have you split the difference here. Kenny G. Kenny G. Yeah, you would. Don't like you. All right. Let's move on to the mail bit. Mailbag. Mailbag. Yeah.
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to vote on the price for free agents once the waiver process is complete. Zero dollar bids or one dollar bids. What do you prefer? Love the show listened for the last three years. Thank you for listening. I'm confused. So you have FAB going. No, they want to know whether you allow zero dollar bids after the FAB is over. Or even during? Because after FAB runs, do you force people to pay a minimum of a dollar for a waiver pickup? Or do you let them go zero dollars? Sure. We go zero dollar bids in all our late.
We're also rolling, as in it runs fab every day. That waivers run. We don't do the combination. Except for Tuesday, yeah. We don't do a combination of Fab on Wednesday, and then the floodgates are open, and it's a free-for-all after that. Yeah. Once the fab runs, free agents are locked again, and you can bid on someone for tomorrow. And you can make zero-dollar bids. Of course, yeah. You have to be able to do the zero-dollar bids. The only tough thing about this method, which is...
superior, in my opinion, to everything else of free agency is sometimes Sunday sucks that you have to prepare and make a really tough decision because you have a questionable player in the afternoon and you know that you cannot add someone in the afternoon if you have to if something goes wrong. That's true. But even with that, it's just part of the preparation. Everyone knows the rules. All right, Bill, in Duncan. I don't know where Duncan is.
