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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Fantasy Face-Off, News, Mailbag

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Have left me with only Mark Ingram, Joyke Bell, or T.Y. Hilton. Who should I keep and why? I had DES2, but we are not allowed. Don't tell me that you have. We're glad you had Des Bryant. Okay. So he can keep Ingram, Joyc Bell, or T.Y. Hilton. PPR league. In PPR. Yeah, that makes a difference. So Ingram, I don't like in PBR at all, especially with the amount of buzz, C.J. Spiller's kidding. In fact, I think a beat writer in.

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in New Orleans came out this week and estimated they'd have similar touches. I saw that. If not more for Spiller overall touches. You know the last time I heard something like that? You know what it reminded me of? And I don't think it's just because it's the same team. When C.J. Spiller was supposed to get more touches than Tred Jackson? Oh, okay. Gross. That makes me want to throw up buying into C.J. Spiller for the third year. But no, it was when I think it was Peter King several years ago who came out and said that

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Sproles was going to be huge for the Saints. Oh. And it was mocked. It was like, yeah, it was like, oh, give me a break. There's no way he's going to be. He was like, he's going to have a ton of touchdowns to be using the passing game. And he was right. And Sproles was a beast in that offense. And so, man, I'm really excited about C.J. Spiller, which has very little to do with this question. My answer to this question, Josh, is T. Y. Hilton. Yep. Ding, ding, ding. Yeah, I was just going to say, if we had that bell. Yep.

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All right, this email comes in from Derek. He wants some feedback. I thought this was interesting. I don't know if I'm going to be able to explain it right, so I'm going to do my best. He wants feedback on a three-way trade in his league. Are we picking a winner? Yes, he just wants to know a winner. So team one gave up T.Y. Hilton and a first round pick and got DeMarco Murray and a second round pick. In a second round pick.

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Team 2 gave up Arian Foster and got T.Y. Hilton. So I'm throwing out Team 2 as the winner. You lost. Team 3 gave up DeMarco Murray and a second round pick, received Arian Foster and a first round pick. So I'm going to give it Team 3. Yeah. That's clear to me. I'd rather have Arian Foster and a first round pick than I would, DeMarco. And a second. Yep.

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All right. For sure. So whoever you are, and it's not him. His team was the first team. When is the last? No, it was close second for me. Yeah, and he did a good job. I think he still traded up. Basically, you guys took good advantage of that middle team. Yep. Good job. What, Foster for Hilton? Crazy. I mean, maybe it's like a two points per reception league. You bonus points if your last name is Hilton. Right, right. Casey Z says, hey, fellas, I'm in a 12-team standard redraft league.

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uh quarterback touchdowns is worth six the people in his league are obsessed with aaron rogers he's dreamy yes discount double check i can think of a handful of guys that would that sounds just like him he can think of a handful of guys in the league that would trade the farm to get rogers is it crazy to then draft rogers in the first because he knows these guys would make him an offer he can't refuse

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He says he knows it's risky, but if he employed this strategy, what would be the minimum trade you'd take for Rogers? Well, that's hard to tell you. Most likely he'll end up looking for a quarterback later in the draft, but he had thought about doing this and wanted to know our thoughts. No, no, I wouldn't. And here is why. Because depending on where you draft, if you're drafting right in the beginning, just draft the guy that should be taken right in the beginning, that stud beginning player. If you're drafting later in the 8th and he falls to you, you realize that means there's only four guys.

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that are really willing to trade with, you know, I guess it's possible if the guy that you know would give up the most for him is behind you and is going to go bananas, sure. But I guess my point is if you're high enough in the draft where you can just take the value, take the value, and if you're low enough in the draft, then it's really hard to turn around right after draft day and trade someone because they have now assigned him the value of what you drafted him. So I just think it would be difficult.

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I'd prefer to draft my guy. I agree. I had someone ask me on Twitter. They were saying in their drafts, they've been Manning. Peyton Manning has been dropping to the fourth or something, and he thinks he'll be able to get him there because he doesn't like any of the other players around. So he was saying, should he take Manning with the hopes to trade him? And I actually said no, because I would rather spend my draft dollars, so to speak, my investment.

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on an asset for my team, not something that may have value for other people. I want a guy who has instant value for me. Quarterback trading is usually the most difficult to pull off because everybody has one. Because the market is so saturated. Good takes. All right, Twitter question comes in from John G. It's a simple one. Brandon Cooks and the, okay, so this would be a dynasty league question. He has Brandon Cooks.

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And he could trade Cooks and the third pick of the first round for AJ Green and the eighth pick of the second round. Twelve team PPR. Do you do that? Oh, man. I personally, I stick with Cooks and that third pick. I do too. Because the third pick can make impact year one, and cooks could be a PPR monster. Yeah, I'm throwing shade pretty much all over Cooks. But that third pick, I could be a...

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beast even though green is already a monster so that one's really tough but i think i stay with the the high pick yeah there's four marquee this year and and beyond rookies so you're getting one of those at the three and uh the at the at the 208 you just you're taking a crapshoot and hopefully you get somebody yeah i love a j green but i also i'm happy enough with that third pick and cooks

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All right. Let's go ahead and do, you want to read this one, Mike? Yep. The Wayne question? Yep. This one's an email from Wayne. He's just discovered the podcast. It's by far the funniest football podcast on iTunes. Parentheses, Mike is the best. I don't, I don't see that in it. No, that's not in the email, Mike. Oh. This is why you read them, Andy. I'm surprised you didn't say like parentheses, Ryan Tannehill is the best. Moving on to more important matters. When is your Tantahill?

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tattoo going on? I'm actually, I've changed it. It's going to be a fusion of Ryan Tannenhill and Derek Anderson, who is a better quarterback apparently than Cam New. Oh my gosh. Derek Anderson's not better than anybody at anything. No, we know that as Cardinals fan. That's true. That's true. When you look up his numbers from the Panthers. Moving on to more important matters, I play in a 10-team P-PT. I believe you met PPR. QB friendly. What is P-PT? Point per touch.

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is what he basically means. It's like touch football. No, no, he means point per touch whenever somebody does something. For real? Oh, because we didn't get to the... Point per carry, point per reception, point for every... Okay. I apologize. This is why I read them. It's okay. I can explain to you guys. My keeper options are Odo Beckham in the 16th round. That is a keep. CJ Anderson in the 16th round or Andrew Luck in the 6th. I can keep one. Oh. I have pretty much narrowed it to Beckham or Anderson. Yeah.

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Though the league does allow the OP position. Oh, it's a two-quarterback league. What? Can you rank my options? Andrew Luck is your first option in the sixth round. Then I would... Yeah, I'd go luck all the way. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even think about the other guys. It's Andrew Luck. The only question to me is if this is really a full point per touch, as you say. No, it's a point per carry. Yeah, point per reception.

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Yeah, but if you're getting a point per carry, a full point per carry, and CJ, yeah, if you're getting a full point per carry and C.J. Anderson is going to get, you know, 250, 300 touches. I mean, if that's right, then that's a weird league, but, I mean, that puts the value there crazy out of reach. Otherwise, maybe you're right. In general, in general, if you can play two quarterbacks and then Andrew Luck is, his value is monumental.

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I would take Andrew Luck or C.J. Anderson. If it's truly a point per, you get a full point for every carry, I would go C.J. Anderson. Yeah. Do you come around, Mike? Yeah, that's, well, if I can get some more news first on C.J. Anderson. You know what? The thing is, is I still go with luck because this is clearly a keeper league. And so he might be able to roll luck over for a few years in a two-quarterback league. That wouldn't be too bad. All good options. All right. This email comes in from Matt. He's in a full point PPR league.

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Thank goodness is normal. Although it's 15 yards receiving per point. No. Oh, my gosh. I did not expect that. Okay, so he's got AP, Forte, Antonio Brown, and Jordy Nelson, and then he gives us the very, he would have won last season, but ran into the O'Dell Beckham Buzz song. Yeah, a lot of people did.

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Which should he keep in place of this first rounder, AP Forte, Antonio Brown, or Jordy Nelson? Dude, this is tough, but I'm going to just go out on a limb here. I'm going to say Antonio Brown. My choice is tough between Brown and Peterson, but I believe in Jason on this hot take of Peterson's catch as being up, so I'm going to take Peterson. You don't think just talking about it for a second because...

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Jason, I guess give me your answer first, but I want to ask you guys a question. No, I would go AP as well. I actually really do, even though I screamed and said, kill me. I think that the type of league, when you've got the full PPR but then the yards are in the favor of the running back, I think that actually weighs it out the way that it should be.

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Full PPR kind of makes receivers a little bit too. That's why we like half. Yeah, I love half point PPR. But if you're in a full point PPR where 15 yards for receiving point, 10 yards for rushing point, that pushes me from Antonio Brown to AP. So let me ask you this. Why do you think that Adrian Peterson is going to get a lot of, because what I saw in the field, even obviously he was out last year, but the year before, his receiving numbers had gone down.

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And now you bring in, I mean, you have a very, I know nobody loves him, but Matt Azata is a very capable receiver as is Jerich McKinnon. And so why do you think that they would overload Adrian Peterson other than the fact? I mean, is it just because they're not going to be on the field. And they're not going to be the ones catching the ball when Adrian Peterson is on the field. I mean, Adrian Peterson will be on the field three downs.

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I mean, he'll come out for breathers and all that. But he also wasn't really involved in the Norv Turner system. And if you look at the numbers of the running backs and you just take those and you compare those to what Peterson did beforehand, and you go, oh, that makes sense. The combined running back, you know, drop-offs or, you know, catches were, were up.

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quite a bit over the combined catches, you know, when AP was back two years ago, there's just really no choice. If he's on the field, then that's their system. He's getting the dump option. Yeah, and he's fully capable. Yeah, he's not, I will say, he's not the greatest receiver, but he is a capable receiver. And when you look at what North Turner's system did with Asiata, that guy actually had PPR value, which was bizarre. And so you can't.

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And you can't bring Ozziata in on third down. You have Adrian Peterson, one of the best running backs ever. Then you have that threat of, are they going to run or are they going to pass? Because you can do both. You're right. You're right. So, Ledaian Tomlinson. Thanks for reminding me of Norv Turner and Lidane and Tomlinson and the magic that happened there. AP number one. Just so you guys know on our website, the fantasy footballers.com, we have some articles that will be coming on to the site this week. We're going to be answering some questions about

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basically every team in the league. In this first week, we're going to go through the NFC West, answer some questions about the Cardinals, the Rams, the Seahawks, and the 49ers. So these are all fantasy-oriented questions. Some of the biggest questions each individual team has, and we're going to talk about them on the show as well. So be sure to check that out this week at the Fantasy Footballers.com. You can follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers. If you want to follow Jason, for whatever reason... Yeah.

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Why is your handle not at double stuff now? You should really change it. At Jason FFL. And then you can follow Mike at FF Hitman. And then if you want to follow me, it's at Andy Holloway. Easy as pie. And you can, we are on Facebook as well. Did you guys know that? Have you ever heard of you ever been on Facebook before? No, I'm not allowed. My mom doesn't let me.

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We're also on MySpace. No, we're not on Myspace. Facebook.com slash the Fantasy Footballers. And be sure to go on iTunes. Also, if you don't listen on iTunes, if you listen on Stitcher or one of those Android programs, we'd really appreciate you dropping us a review on those. You know, we know not as many people listen on those. But we've got to give the Android love out there. So we put ourselves everywhere we can be on every Android system. If there's something you want us on and we're not there, send us an email, mail to Fantasyfootballers.com. Let us know.

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