Week 7 Waivers & Streamers + Quge Disappointment! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/17

On today's episode, we are sifting through the waivers. There are so many running backs. We lay it out who we're prioritizing, who we're going to spend up on, who we're going to maybe try and avoid lots and lots of situations. Leave us some comments about who you're going to pick up. Make sure you subscribe right now and enjoy. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in.

The Fantasy Footballers podcast, Mike, the Fantasy Hitman, Wright, Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. Back at it, Tuesday edition of the show. Boy, this is going to be a tough one. We have a Waver Wire episode today. So much to say. Jason is already in full grimace with a shaking head. Look, we are in the thick of it with you, fighting for our lives and our League of Record. I mean, it's kind of cruise control on Dynasty right now. Oh, Dynasty's great. Dynasty's great. We're a combined, what is that? Well, you are, you are undefeated. 16 and two between the three of us. Yeah. Yeah. So we are, yeah, we're doing. So Dynasty, who cares? Yeah. Dynasty's easy. But League of Record, oh, brother. Mike and I are battling each other this week. We are sitting at two and four. And our teams are okay.

They've scored a lot of points, but we're both at two and four, and one of us has to lose. And we're pretty much at that point in the way that our league of record is, that will be a death now. Yeah, because you'll have to make the decision to sell four next year to build up. There were a lot of people that said amen, brother, when you said that you had scored a lot of points in your two and four because they have been coming in on. uh on x i've seen the messages the teams that with the high points scored totals i have i have verified it i have the third most points i still and i'm not spike like my team has been just is short sure yeah that was i didn't do an owl boarland put up 200 points and then 70 like i have put up enough points to win every single week and just i keep i keep getting buzz sawed by

Certain players. Let's buzz all you one more time. Yeah, I was going to say the whole points for narrative is it's a lot like looking at a consistency chart for a wide receiver. You could have somebody that delivers consistently good scores every week, or you could have somebody that, you know, they have one huge week and then they score below the league average the other weeks. And so it can be somewhat deceiving, but let's just call a spade to spade. When you see your points scored. Yeah. is in the top half of the league and you aren't above 500. You feel as though the world has robbed you of your rightful place as a winner. And that's fantasy. That's fantasy football. And to Jason's point about him and Mike squaring off, and we're in the waiver show today. We're talking about San Francisco running backs among a whole slew of running back options. But just understand that, like, Jason and Mike are living this out this week because on Monday night football,

You're going to have either Christian McCaffrey on the field or you won't. You're also going to have two running backs in Jordan Mason and Elijah Mitchell that are going to in some capacity split time either as the feature backs or behind Christian McCaffrey. And Jason has Elijah Mitchell and Mike has Christian McAfee. Yeah, already on the roster. So just heal up, Christian. Just take this week and just make sure that you feel better for the following week. Mike, I wish you and Christian McCaffrey the best after this week. I thank you. And I won't detail the source, but I mean, we have very close connections with the locker room in San Francisco. And Jason, was it helpful? Well, I think that, you know, we're trying to figure out, is it Elijah Mitchell? Is it Jordan Mason? And it is unknown. Anyone that says that they know the answer is incorrect.

I believe that it is unknown even within the locker room as of now. Now, there will be an answer. By the end of this week, we'll know whether Christian McCaffrey is playing and we'll know whether it's Elijah Mitchell or Jordan Mason as the primary man up next. And I will be, I believe it is Elijah Mitchell, but there just can't be, there's no special inside knowledge here. Is there, a procedure to give someone an oblique. Oh, you want to donate? Yeah, I don't need... I don't think that's an easy one. But I don't need two. Do you have two obliques to begin with? Do we have two obliques? Yeah. I mean... Oh, so you're willing to give one up. Yeah, I mean... Now, how would your oblique perform out there, Mike? My oblique would... It would be a lot like J.K. Dobbins. There would be one strong oblique for Christian McCaffrey and one... Two abdominal muscles. Kind of flabby, not very strong. But at least it's functional.

Right. I mean, look, it's a thought. I'm going to go ahead and guess that Christian McCaffrey's super injured oblique is much stronger and better than your current healthy oblique right now. He's like, I'll stick with the injured one. Certainly stronger, but mine doesn't hurt. Ooh, so he won't be in pain. Yeah, he'll just be incapable. You'll just be leaning over to one side. Your oblique couldn't hold up all the muscles above it. That's what I didn't think about that. Yeah. Listen, we'll see what... I'll do some sit-ups tonight. We'll see what Jason's... Yeah, do some sit-ups. We'll see what Jason's conviction about Elijah Mitchell translates to in terms of waiver priority and fab spend when we get into the waivers. But, I mean, it's going to be a heck of a week. And this is make-or-break time for a lot of teams. It's not just you guys. I mean, you're fighting for your future and you have to try to win a week and make some moves. Now, in other breaking news, I am...

I do have an appointment later today. With a barber. Oh. And if you've noticed. You don't have a hat on. Good man. I didn't wear the hat today. Yeah. Because you have respect. I feel like I've been converted. Yeah. I don't want to give. I don't want to give this person a hard time. Yeah. Nor do you want to give yourself a bad haircut. Now, Mike would say give him a challenge. Yeah. Look, do you pay this person? Yeah. Do your job. It's not charity work. Now, would you go in there with gum in your hair, Mike? With gum in the hair? Yeah. I mean, are you willing to step it up a little bit for the barber, the hairstylist? Possibly. Maybe some gum, maybe some motor oil. Motor oil is better, I would assume, because you can like, like, have you ever had gum stuck in your hair? Probably, yeah, once or twice. I have got to cut that out. I have had many different stages of hair in my life. I had very long hair because I was a rocker in junior high, you know, super metal head.

I got gum stuck in my hair. Ooh. And we did the old, do you freeze it? No, we did the peanut butter trick. But, oh my gosh. Not a good time? It is not a good time at all. How long until you don't smell like peanut butter? That I don't recall. Who cares? Peanut butter smells awesome. You would like a cologne that's peanut butter scinted? Everyone would. Oh, just. Skippy. Skippy by, yeah, all right. At the FF ballers over on X. Follow us over there. Give me your quick reaction to the Monday night football game. Well, I mean, there's Jason. Okay. That's my quicker action. It was a bit of a snooze fest. It was Justin Herbert kind of fell out the clouds as, uh, 22 for 37, 27 and two, one interception sack. No, I mean, not an awful performance, but, but if you had drafted Justin Herbert, you were riding high, but I had kind of talked, I don't know where I said it on which show, but.

He had a very plus schedule to start the season, and there's a stretch of games coming up here for Justin Herbert, so it was not going to shock me if he had fallen off of the pace that he was on. Echler, very, very tough game returning from the ankle injury. Also, it's against the Dallas Cowboys. Dag Prescott, I thought, looked very good. I think I saw that he was PFF's highest graded passer of the week. He was 21 for 30, 272. a passing touchdown. He also had a rushing touchdown, which was what a sensational fake. I screamed at the television, stupid. And because I thought he ended it off. What is this dumb play? And, well, me, the cameraman, everybody else got tricked as Dak scampered for a rushing touchdown there, like an 18-yarder. But it's, this Mike McCarthy offense is terrible. It's, it is.

just awful. You had Tony Pollard against the Chargers go 15 for 30 on the ground. I got a watch alert that he had a 60-yard run. Was that something called back? Was that just a big lie? It was a reception. Yes. Yeah, he had, which was a awesome. Oh, it was a risk. Okay, so he was six for eighty three years. Which was insane because it was like a full broken play of, he got tackled. Oh, yeah. And that, but the defender. I don't know, sold, just didn't, did not complete the tackle? Yeah, the defender tackled him, wrapped him up, spun him around, and then all the other defenders are like, yeah, he's got this. That guy's tackled him. And then Tony Pollard got up, having not been tackled and ran away from all the defenders. If I was looking at this game through the lens of what is to come, I would be pretty concerned about the chargers who are sitting at two and three and replaced Mike Williams with nothing.

I think that's the headline. Huge. Not getting it done. QJ. Quentin Johnston got the old goose egg is. Quentin Johnston zero receptions on two targets, including the final interception, not stepping up. I mean, Joshua Palmer was four for 60. If Joshua Palmer could lock four for 60 in as his weekly number, you'd be okay with it. Palmer had some some terrific receptions and the even more. concerning part here for for huge 21 routes that is fewer it's the worst nickname of all time it's fantastic just just just let it happen yeah disgusted how do you spell huge uh we'll figure i'll get our two i'll get our top i'll get our top people on it okay thank you but he rent the point being quentin johnston ran fewer routes than gerald everett like they meet him desperately yeah that's a huge disappointment thank you yeah nice it's a good time yeah

Nice, brooks. The point being, they need him. They drafted him in the first round, and he still can barely go on the field. Always can. What? If I traded for him in a dynasty, like I'd be worried. Oh, I would be. If I have him right now, I would be trading him away. Did someone trade for him? Oh, that's right. Papa Josh. Oh, yeah. There's the shame. No fear. Do you think it was a cute mistake? That's called stupidity. You should have massive fear. It's dinosaur. The future shall erase the present. Obviously, he is a rookie. There is still time in his career to come on strong and be better. But in the modern NFL, we see wide receivers with less time. This isn't a situation anymore where it's common for a year three breakout for wide receivers. That's the year. You know, wide receivers get in and.

get on the field and are good, at least in their flashes, like Rushie Rice. Rushie Rice is not playing a ton of snaps, 30% of snaps last week. But he looks good. Yeah, huge targets on the, like when he plays, he gets targeted. Exactly. And there has been a common, constant disappointment from training camp through preseason, through, you know, obviously in season. The opportunity has been there. He is needed. He is not stepping up or catching the ball. Addison, Flowers, Michael Wilson, three rookies that have made their mark in certain games. Pooka Nakua. Yeah, you have a lot of, even Jonathan Minko's had some games. I mean, not big ones, but targeted. He's getting targets. Receiving the football. It feels very rager-esque. Sure. What's happening. Yeah, Perryman has been brought up, and you don't want that name brought up if you're a rookie.

McKeel Harry. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I mean, look, the biggest part is we would not care if Mike Williams was there. Correct. We'd be like, ah, there's no room for him. But there's so much room for him right now. And I know it was Dallas. So, yeah, Papa Josh, not pleased with our analysis on that one. But look, just to close that off, the nice thing for Dynasty is over this off season, I mean, he will probably still have a ton of value. The thing about knowing the dynasty market, wide receivers with his draft capital heading into year two, often do not lose a ton of value. Maybe he loses a little bit. And Mike Williams could be gone. But the point being, Josh is saying, tell him, Mike, I'm saying to trade him. I'm telling you that because going into the off season, he probably has, it's just like Sky Moore, where it was nothing happened. Oh, man. Nothing happened in his first year. And that is a.

terrible sign and you should probably try to just recoup what you can. Yeah. Yeah. Could be wrong. Quinn Johnson, maybe, maybe we're all wrong and he shows us and at some time between now and then. Remember when Devante Parker was the like, the one case of like, hold on. Hold on. The year five breakout. I think the issue with Kuge is that pre-NFL draft when we were just evaluating the talents and all the. first round prospects are, you know, much deeper than that. We all had massive red flags on Cuge. He wasn't any of our favorite. You know, like Jackson Smith and Jigba is also having a poor start to his rookie season. Yes, he is. Um, you know, but his pre draft process was like, he's exceptional. I believe in his talent. This is like kind of where you're seeing some of the worries you had on the prospect himself in Cuge.

I don't want to say too long there, but it's like CEH. He was drafted because of the landing spot. For a lot of, you know, that was the reason why he went as high in dynasty drafts. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Bad news for the Foot Clan, Papa Josh has resigned. The breaking news is resigned. He has left through the back door. He's taking Quentin with him. For some reason, he's walking home. He has his car here. He is walking home. Yeah, but head down. Good news for the Foot Clan. Job opening is available. Oh, boy. But it comes with Quentin Johnston. Oh, yes. You do inherit the team. This is so brutal. He has one bad game here against Dallas. Not one, but there is so much to talk about. Kyron Williams.

Sean McVeigh thought he'd be good. He's not going to be good. Jason, you said that. Kyron Williams ankle, expected to keep him out of week seven. It's not considered long term. Team hasn't made any moves. Right now, the healthy running back is Zach Evans, and he's going to play a crucial role on today's WaverWire show. Royce Freeman's on the practice squad. Sean McVeigh already came out and said like Zach Evans is the one that's likely to get the work at least early. But you have a real like Devonta Foreman-Darrington-Evon situation. Did I say Deontay or Devon? You said Devante. Oh, yeah, Deonti Foreman. You have an Ingram-D-Marcato. It should be Zach Evans. It really should be. But performance could impact how much work they get through the game. Ronnie Rivers was the backup. He's going to miss five weeks with a PCL strain. Spray. Yeah. Strain sprain. Strain spain. One's a muscle. One is a ligament. Yeah.

Okay. Dan Campbell says running back Dave at Montgomery as a cartilage issue in the ribs will be out for a quote a little bit. Yeah, that means he's going to miss this week and then miss next week because they've got to buy week the following week. Yeah, you've already kind of made that. That is what's going to happen. And you do have news that Jemir Gibbs is trending in the right direction for week seven, which is always the direction you want to trend. Yeah, that is absolutely true. We'll talk about that. Lions backfield and waivers as well. Justin Fields doubtful for week seven could be longer than that, especially with the bears having the number one and number two pick in the draft right now. You will have Mr. Badgint at Cordoba. Bilbo Badgett. That is as Mike was calling him on Sunday. What's funny is I wasn't here for that. And when you were talking about Badgett, when you were talking about him on yesterday's show.

Before you told me that. No, you've got to be kidding me. Oh, 100% all I could think of was Bilbo Batchett. Oh, man. Mike said it. That's locked that, locked that in. This is the only good news of Justin Fields missing some time is that we get a new nickname here from Bilbo Batchettian. If that was your nickname coming in, this is your first start as a pro. Here comes Bilbo. All right, so there you go. That's not good for DJ Moore, by the way. Oh, no. No, it's not good for anyone on the Bears. Ryan Tannahill, high ankle sprain. He's going to miss time. They're on the by. It is the same ankles last year. It doesn't need another surgery, but the Tennessee Titans may be on the farewell tour for this group. Trevor Lawrence, knee sprain, not significant day to day. They do play on Thursday night. I bet he's out there.

I bet he is, but I mean, is he good to go? Yeah, mobile. You know, is he able to, what's the match up there? Saints. Yeah. Sorry, that was visceral. It's a decision that people will have to make. Pat Frymuth, expected to play against the Rams on Sunday. Welcome back, Pat. All right. The Muth will be Luth. And then Tinkdale will be back from his concussion next week. Sorry, that would be the next time they play because they're on by this week. Correct. So that would be in a couple weeks. And then Deonti Johnson, the 21-day window to be reactivated has been open. He had said he was fine. I would expect they'll try to get him out there. Oh, he'll play this week. Okay. Deonton Johnson will be back. He also said he was day-to-day before being put on to IR. You're saying you question the veracity of this man. But he's already lied to our faces.

All right, Jamal Williams is eligible to return. Doesn't mean they will. And that's it. There we go. That's today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. Put me in, coach. I believe, yeah, I believe it is time to talk running backs. Jason just took a deep inhalation of oxygen in order to. There are legitimately 10. running backs. That's not hyperbole or some random number. There are 10 running backs that all could be the correct slash best pickup of the week. Right now you can see the pathway for 10 different guys to be who you should be prioritizing, which means there are going to be so many bad pickups this week and so much money and waiver priority burned.

incorrectly. Can't burn it if you don't have it, Jay. Oh, nice, Mike. I am so happy that you have no fab right now. Yeah, but I got DeMarcato. I'm going to throw them in there. It's funny because Andy, you made a trade earlier in the season to acquire more fab. First time ever. First time ever. To be up over the, uh, you're, we start with a hundred. Yeah. You currently have more than a hundred. That's right. You've got, you could do whatever you want. Yeah, it puts me in a tough position because there are players I want from this list that we're going to get into.

But like you said, they are gambols. Most of them are gambles. Some of them are very, very short-term rentals. You have Bengals, Cowboys, Jets, Panthers, Texans, Titans on by, which means Mixin, Pollard, Breece, Miles Centers in Chuba, Damian Pearson Singletary, and Derek Henry all on by. So you have a, outside of the injuries that people have already suffered at running back, you have a pile of biweek situations. It is going to be a mad fight. on waivers this week. I mean, everyone's guns are drawn and it is just... I'll bring my knife. So... Yeah, everyone's got a gun and Mike's got a knife. Mike's best... You might go trade for some Fab. You want some, Mike? I have nothing to offer. What kind of draft pick you're going to give me? Nothing to trade. I have no players. No fab. Let's get into the guys. Before we do that, though, I will say this. Like, I don't think I'm spending...

I'm spinning up in any big way. Okay. Because I don't think the long-term value of the acquisitions this week exists. There are a couple of nuanced situations. And what I wanted to say at the top was just that it is a Tuesday episode being recorded at 927 local time in the morning. We are going, we have a waiver wire rankings on the website. We are going to talk through these players. And we are going to get more information over the course of the week. And you have to make a decision on your fab spin, but that doesn't mean that you stop paying attention. Like, you know, to Mike's infinite credit and shame, he invested on demarcata early in the week when the information we had was that he had performed well and would likely get opportunities. Mike needed a win. He went for it. But he didn't start demarcato last week, despite a $42 fab investment. Mm-hmm.

He didn't start him, and you can't go into this week and spin up and then feel the sunk cost fallacy and just play them no matter what. So there we go. And one other thing I would say before we get into all the specific names, because a lot of these situations are multiple backs on the same team where you're trying to decide which back it is going to be or which one's going to be more valuable. When you're looking at these different teams, I think that the person that should spend up, is the person who has the injured running back. Because you don't know if these guys are going to be a one week. Like, is Christian McCaffrey going to play this week? We don't know yet for sure. But maybe he misses two weeks. Maybe it's actually a multi-week thing. You know, that happens. And so the Christian McCaffrey manager is who should be spinning up in the San Francisco backfield. I think you're going to waste a lot of money in general. Where you're not going to waste money is if you are getting the insurance back.

for your situation because it will last as long as you need it to last. Right. So in the Christian McCaffrey manager situation, spinning up on the running backs there, I agree with Jason. I think Elijah Mitchell, after reading the comments from Kyle Shanahan, I think Elijah Mitchell is the back to spend the money on for multiple reasons. One, he said he barely got to practice in last week. That's why Jordan Mason was the first man up. Says that Elijah Mitchell. has earned a lot in this offense. If you have McCaffrey, you can spend more because it represents insurance beyond this upcoming week. Jordan Mason, if McCaffrey misses, Mitchell and Mason will get work. Yes, both will, yes. If McCaffrey plays, I would not feel, like I feel like you could put Elijah Mitchell out there as a flex. If McCaffrey plays against Minnesota. Yeah, I can agree with that. Yep. The other backs in this.

guaranteed to get work category. Like for me, I have Kyron Williams. I will 100% and I'll just say it right now. Yeah, you're going to get Zach Evans. I'm going to get Zach Evans because Zach Evans represents the starter until my player returns, just like Jason said. And Zach Evans is 5% rostered. It's not the, you know, they play Pittsburgh. Then they play Dallas. I'm not excited about that. But it's better than a blank spot in my lineup. He is? Interesting. If you're unfamiliar with Zach Evans, if you weren't with us during the draft process, this is a rookie who slipped in the draft quite far. Yeah, I liked him on film and then he slipped to the point where I wasn't allowed to like him anymore. Exactly. He fell to the sixth round in the NFL draft. But this was a five-star recruit coming out of high school was supposed to be the, you know, the greatest next prospect.

And I really liked a lot of his film. He's very, very fast. So it will be super interesting to see him get a full opportunity here on what is a pretty good offense for the Rams. And the backfield here is Royce Freeman off the practice squad and Zach Evans, who will be the starter. I think he's going to get great opportunity. So if you don't have Kyron Williams, Zach Evans might, you know, what are you investing? If I am in need of a running back, which I think half of the people in leagues right now are in need of a running back, all of these. So the names out there, Zach Evans, Elijah Mitchell, Craig Reynolds will be David Montgomery's replacement. Javier Gibbs coming back. So it's still. Are you sure, though? Still messy there. I just like, if Jemir Gibbs is back, I mean, we have a game of no David Montgomery with Jemir Gibbs healthy. It was Jemir Gibbs got.

55% of the rushing attempts. Craig Reynolds was down at 13. Now, that was also, Zonovan Knight was there. He got 10%. 13%. 13% of the rushing attempts. Yeah, it was only four opportunities. Yes. So the, I'm just talking about like the pie. How much did he actually get? Zonovan Knight is gone. He's, he's now hurt. But like if Jameer Gibbs is back, he. I mean, at least in the one game sample, now it's definitely different. The variables are here because he's coming off a hamstring injury. But do you really feel the confidence that if Gibbs is healthy, that Reynolds won't just see 20% of the attempts? I feel more confidence that he won't just see 20% of the attempts because of Gibbs coming off the injury and because of his performance last week after Monty went down, which I thought, you know, I thought he's, I think he's more important to the offense than.