Week 7 Waivers & Streamers + Quge Disappointment! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/17

You know, you were standing for him before that last performance. He didn't run the ball well this past week. No, he was 10 for 15. But obviously he was out there a bunch. The week prior, he ran very well against Carolina. Seven for 52 had a touchdown. And the touchdown's really the situation here. Jamal Williams last year. And David Montgomery this year. Like when they get inside the five, I think they're going to. Take that offensive line and push the defense into the end zone and hand it to a running back. Possibly. I don't know for sure that it will be him. Let me just make, let's make this clear for people real quick. Under the actual available everywhere players are only Zach Evans, Jordan Mason, and Craig Reynolds put him in order. Do you put Zach Evans above Craig Reynolds or do you put Reynolds above Zach? I would put Evans above Reynolds. I would go Zach Evans, Craig Reynolds.

Jordan Mason. Jordan Mason. In the much more rostered, but please pay attention category. Elijah Mitchell is down at 34%. Then you have like Rochon's at 60%. Jailin Warren. Could be out there because of coming off the buy. Kareem Hunt had a better week at 45%. Jeff Wilson wasn't active last week. He should be active this week. And then Keante Ingram should legitimately be in the mix in Arizona against Seattle. Yeah, those are all the names. The interesting name to me that I think is going to get lost in the slew of injuries is Cream Hunt. Because Cream Hunt is a season-long player. Like Chubb is gone, and Cream Hunt kind of got lost because of their buy week. You had the game where you had Deshaun Watson's backup, the rookie who was not prepared, come out and have no offense. That game didn't exist basically, and that was the...

second game back for Kareem Hunt, then they go on a buy. The first time we see him with full practices and not a quarterback unable to perform, he has a great game. He was a top 10 running back last week. Yeah, he had 41% of the running back attempts, 60% of the running back targets. Kareem Hunt needs to be picked up. I thought we'd be able to get the running backs before he took a break. We won't. I need to talk about a lot more of them. So we'll take a quick break, come back, and then we'll hit the running backs, the rest of them, and move on to wide receivers. So moving to some other names, I mean, one to pay attention to especially and drop it like it's hot, Chuba Hubbard, who's been very good. We don't know what the long-term health of Miles Sanders is going to turn into, but Hubbard's going into the buy. So when I say drop it like it's hot, if you're new to the show, that means after waivers process in the morning.

You know, there are a lot of teams that are not going to be able to afford just keeping Chuba Hubbard on their bench potentially. And so they're going to throw him back out there. He was very good yet again. And they play Houston after the buy week. So just like I think Chubbard is playable against Houston regardless of Miles standards status. So if this is not the week you need a running back, please pay attention to Chuba. Yeah, the same could be said for Jeff Wilson, who could be the best pickup here because that Miami Dolphins offense is. You just want as many pieces of that as you can. Jeff Wilson is a guy that right now, like his first week active, don't know that you want to start him. You know, you kind of need to. So it's almost like he's got a buy week whenever he is active. And then you've got the backups that have relevancy. Jalen Warren and another guy on by, Tajay Spears, has looked really good.

This is a team that's going to be without Ryan Tannale, meaning they're going to be down a little bit more. They're going to have their two-minute drill type of offense out there, which we've seen Tajay doing some real damage in the receiving game for the Titans. But Jalen Warren, you know, coming off a by, he might be out there. And there's more names. I mean, Latavius Murray is somebody I want to bring up because the consolidation of opportunities. Like Damien Harris, I don't think we're seeing him back out there on the field. In the immediate future, Murray took a bunch of snaps. He was 12 for 45. He got dragged down on the one. He's always a threat for a touchdown, and they're trusting him in the passing game. So Murray is somebody you can throw out there in a pinch, and the same goes for Zeke. I mean, Zeke had a touchdown. He ended up with a huge touchdown called back, and he's getting snaps as well. So, you know, if you are staring down Elijah Mitchell with CMC active or you're staring down Zeke

Or Latavius, are you going with Mitchell? I will probably go with Mitchell, then Latavius, then Zeke. Yeah. Mitchell has the potential. I mean, here's the thing with Elijah Missal. When he's been given the opportunities in replacement, he's been outstanding, like really great for fantasy. He has, I believe, as many. rushing games of 75 yards or more as Christian McCaffrey does. And Shanahan came out and said, like, he's earned in the past, you know, the role. And so I'm very excited to have Elijah Mitchell should Christian McCaffrey not play. And then Latavius Murray, you just want a piece of that offense. That's why Zeke, to me, is third because if you're comparing, like, oh, the 49ers offense has been great. The Bill's offense is great.

And then the Patriots offense is offensive. Yeah, okay. And then you just have just the cursory backups like Biggsby if an injury happens and Kishon Vaughn and Royce Freeman and Rico Dattel. Before we move on, Roshan Johnson, Deonta Foreman. How do you see that breaking down? I think I would be aggressively going after Roshan. I know they won't have fields so the offense won't be. Fantastic, but maybe Bilbo will check the ball down to Roshan and give us some fantasy value. I have... So you have hairy feet then? Of course he does. He's a Hobbit. Giant hairy feet. Got it. That's good. My concern... He still wears cleats. You're not going to see him. But the cleats are probably... The cleats are huge. Yeah. All right, go on. I have my concerns for Deonta Foreman that if Roshan is back, it might be Roshon and Evans. Oh, 100%. Yeah. I'm out on...

If Roshan's back, I'm completely out of form it. Yeah. I am not as out as you two, and I know you guys were able to watch that game a little closer this weekend than me. You talked about how a lot of his production came at the end of the game, that Deonti Foreman wasn't even the clear starter without Roshan. I still feel like there is a real chance here that it is Deontah Foreman with Roshan staying in the role Roshan was playing when it was Khalil Herbert and Roshan. The debate may be moot with the way the offense. With Bilbo. With Bilbo. Because this was a backfield we were talking about ignoring. We literally weren't even playing Khalil Herbert for a few weeks with Justin Fields. And Miles Sanders is going to get dropped in some leagues. So if he does, please just grab him. He's going to be the starter. Right. Once he gets healthy. At the wide receiver position, it's interesting. My number one targets Rashi Rice. Same. Yep.

He's not getting as many snaps. We have an update. Sorry. Badgant's feet are not hairy per Kyle's quick research. I'm not sure how you found. That's actually false. I've seen Bilbo's feet and they are extremely hairy. Kyle, Google. This is terrible research. So funny story here on Rushi Rice. I thought it was going to be a funny story on, on, you know, the Shire. We do have a photo of him in the Shire. Oh, all right. You can see. So then his feeder. For furry. Have you guys noticed Rushie Rice on our waivers? Yes, I have. Of course. Yeah. You want to know why Rushie Rice is on waivers? Why is that? I was shocked that he was. I noticed it completely and I was super mad. I added mims instead of him before Sunday. Yeah. What an idiot. Well, you couldn't because he played on Thursday. I mean, yeah, before Thursday. Well, I was traveling.

And I'm in too many leagues. Oh, no. And I needed a quarterback in one of my leagues where I've got Rushie Rice. And so I picked up Deshaun Watson and dropped him. I did see the Watson pick up in the wrong league. Yeah, I was like, why are you picking up Deshaun Watson? I've got that made no sense because I did it in the wrong. league while traveling to Disneyland. And you don't want to say it because you don't want people to know that Rashi's on the waiver. I messaged my co-manager the minute that the waivers went through and I go, what did I do? The co-manager is responsible for you during travel. What in the world? So my bet. I really wish my team had Roshi Ryes. I'll put it. As I say, you're not getting him back. No, I know it. James Rashi Rice. Josh Downs has been a PPR monster regardless of the yards per catch.

Those are the top names at the wide receiver position that are in the 50% rostered category. If you're looking well below that percentage of being on people's teams, Juan Dale, Kendrick Bourne, Rashid, who keeps making splash plays, those would be names to bring up. But I think Rice, here's what we know about Rashi Rice and what I think is going to happen. One, this offense is not quite what it should be. So, you know, Sky Moore, MBS, who just does cardio, You know, these players are not. He's got to be so fit. They're not getting it done. Now, when Rashi Rishi has been given the ball, things happen. He's also, he's extremely fast north and south. So they've been putting him into a position where he can show that speed off. He was four for 72 last week. And when the snaps go up, the targets will go up. Because every time he's been given an opportunity to be on the field, they target him. So I think that he is the best long-term pickup. Now, Jameson Williams is going to make splash plays.

And maybe he's the one you think you want. But this guy is not integral enough to the offense, nor do I see the path for him to get there. Yeah, I agree completely with what you're saying. The, you know, the talent and the draft capital of Jameson Williams is really enticing, especially getting another piece. You know, we want pieces of good offenses. But 23% of the snaps last week for Jameson Williams, it's scary to get that on your. team and, you know, have to put him in your lineup. I think my favorite name this week, though, is Wondale Robinson. You know, you talk about Josh Downs being a PPR machine. Paris Campbell ran zero routes. And Wondale has looked pretty good. And, you know, he had eight receptions for 62 yards. He's actually got five or more receptions in three straight weeks. So if you're in a full PPR league.

Wondale probably shouldn't be on waivers, and he is actually widely available. I would take downs over Wondale. I would not. Yeah, because we've seen it from downs for quite a stretch, and Wondale, that offense, I just hate. I have no, I mean, his best game came without his starting quarterback. And so. But he's been recovering from the. Oh, we've been saying he's been recovering for years. When's he recovered? Maybe never. When's the period at the end of the sentence? Maybe never. But. I mean, you had a big game from Darius Slayton. Why don't you like Darius Slate? I mean, if Paris is not getting carries and snaps, I'm going to say the- Darius-Layton at least catches it beyond the line of scrimmage. Yeah, which Tanner-Raw-Taylor had two beautiful deep passes to Slate. I was going to mention the other name of, if you are in a deep league, the transition for the Giants that has happened. Like, it's Slayton, it's Wondale Robinson, and it's Jalen Hyatt.

Those are the three guys who are actually getting the run. Hyatt has pretty much no production so far. He had such a good catch in that last game that got called back on a legal man down field. Yeah, but Jalen Hyatt has an elite attribute. He is super fast. And if they configure some things out, this is not like a 10-team, 12-team league ad that I'm looking to go after. But there's people playing 14 to 16 teamers. Will you drop Quentin Johnson and Jehan Dodson to pick up these players? I would drop Johan Dotson for sure. Quentin Johnston is he's likely a drop as well. Yeah, the other names that we're bringing up, I would absolutely rather have them on my roster. Johan Dotson has been an unmitigated disaster. When you talked to, I mean, we spent a lot of time talking about Quentin Johnson Dynasty and long time. Like this is year two for John Dotson. He had a really bad drop this last week.

He has not been targeted heavily. Curtis Samuel is a much better player than him. Every expectation we have for Jahan Dotson has not been met. So when you think about him and in Dynasty, are you moving forward without him? Are you trying to cash in on the early name value? No, I'm not. I still think he's got value and I think he's got talent. Unlike, you know, Kuge or Sky Moore or these other names we're talking about, those guys have really never showed it. I mean, I'll play. play here or there, but Jehan Dodson, his entire rookie season, other than when he was injured, was really good. Like, we've seen it. So, you know, you add that to the fact that he was a first round draft pick. I don't believe that Jahan Dotson is going to be worthless for Dynasty for his career. Obviously right now, it's not working out. Something's going on with Dodson. I don't know if it's health or what, but.

Dynasty-wise, I'm not worried. It's so bizarre because he's out there for all the snaps. I mean, 80% of snaps the last two weeks, he's averaging 83% on the season, and he's just not getting targets. New offensive coordinator, new quarterback, and we haven't seen what we wanted. Yeah, dynasty-wise, I'm going to hold on to Dotson because it would not be surprising for the manders to have a huge shake-up in their coach situation over this off-season. At the tight-in position, Pat Firemuth, we said he's coming back from injury, 52% rostered, off the buy. He would top the list for me if he is in your league. Certainly. He's rostered in half the league, so just check. If he's out there, he is a better, more reliable name that could be a weekly starter versus trying to find a streaming candidate.

Jake Ferguson is going into the buy, had a horrible performance last night. No qualms about letting him go to replace him this week, right? No, I don't think so. Jake Ferguson hasn't established himself as a must-start player. If you look at his, you know, he's got one game. We're going into week seven. He's got one game with 10 fantasy points. So this isn't a guy that like, I'm not saying, you know, he's bad. but you don't need to roster a buy week tight end to hold on to someone that isn't regularly, you know, scoring 10 points. Here's some breaking news for you. Dalton Schultz has been the tight end five, six, and two over the last three weeks. He goes into the buy. Is he somebody you're holding through the buy? Are you moving on from him? Personally, I'm not going to hold Dalton Schultz through a buy week. He has had three good weeks in a row. It was three touchdowns in a row.

I mean. Would you drop him for Michael Mayer who's going to get some conversations this week, 5 or 75? That's a perfect example. I would rather have Michael Mayer because I think Michael Mayer is more talented. We saw him actually get more involved. This is a highly touted rookie tight end who we were really disappointed to start the season. We were really disappointed to start the season that he wasn't really involved. He hadn't become the starting. tight end for the Raiders. And I was a little surprised at that given his talent, but we have now seen it shifting. His route percentage over the last three weeks, 30%, 46%, now 64% of the routes run this last week. He led the team in yards with 75 yards and five receptions on six targets playing 81% of the snaps. So if you could see a transition being made where it's like, oh, he's going to become they're receiving.

tight end and he's talented. Johnny Smith got back into the end zone. He's running a ton of rounds, the third most on the team. And this was a week where he was kind of banged up. We didn't know if he played. He played. He was integral. I do think Johnny Smith is the least sexy pickup you could ever put into your tight in position that might get you more points than some of the sexier ones. Gerald Everett, I think he's going to be needed. I think this offense had a tough matchup. He got into the end zone for the first time this year. It wasn't.

Super impressive. Do you have any interest in Everett? Yeah, I do. He's on a good offense. He plays a lot of snaps, and he's necessary. So when you're looking at all the garbage tight ends, he's one of them. Luke Musgrave was on the buy. He's coming back. Do you have interest in Musgrave, Mike? Yeah, I think I have more Musgrave interest in like Gerald Everett. I would agree with that. I think Musgraves kind of at the TV top of my list. Yeah, well, not only that, but he's playing against the Denver Broncos. And the Vance Joseph-led defense currently of the Denver Broncos is just so exploitable at Tide-in. They are currently ranked. Let me check, 32nd against tight-in. So, yeah, Musgrave. Behind the London Beefeaters. Musgrave coming off of the buy as a rookie in a great matchup.

He's getting opportunities. I mean, even including the injury game, he's averaging nearly five targets a game. Yeah, he'd be at the top of my list. I would agree. I would rather have him than mayor. Yeah. And then are you making anything of the Trey McBride actually played more? I'm just going to confirm. I thought I had read he played more than Zach Hertz for the first time ever. Yeah. More routes, more snaps. And he came through. I know one of them was just a. the stinkiest of garbage because it was like at the end of the game where they were losing 9 to 26 but he 4 for 62 I couldn't be making less of it yeah I'm not making anything of it but I'm paying attention to it because the as much for being anti Zach Ertz as I am pro uh Trey McBride because if if this transition goes further this week

If it's like, oh, Trey McBride's playing even more, Zachertz is playing even less. You need to be aware of that and shift the expectations. Because to start the season, it seemed like Zach Ertz was very, very reliable in a PPR lead. Defensive pickups, Cleveland plays on the road against Indianapolis and Gardner, Minshu, who will throw two interceptions. And they will be. horrendous looking. It is such. Well, they'll be good looking passes, but they'll go right to the defender. Oh, okay. You're saying like, I'm saying it'll be a tight spiral. Yeah. I don't know about that. I saw some fluttering ducks in that last game. What a great matchup for Cleveland. The fact that they had a by week last week is so good for everyone because they're widely available and they shouldn't because they're one of the best defenses in the league. They play Seattle, then they play Arizona. Yeah, so the Cleveland Browns are.

I mean, I would, it would be a stretch run. You need to put them on your team and you need to keep them on your team. That is my opinion with Cleveland because I don't have their schedule directly in front of me, but I remember looking, give me their playoff three games because I think they're juicy. So they, in weeks 15 through 17, Chicago, Houston, the Jets. There you go. Beautiful. I mean, there is a chance that is Bilbo. No, no, by the Fields. I don't know what's better for fantasy. It might be better that it's Fields. But, yeah, Fields, Stroud, you know, he's been good, but it's Cleveland. They play a lot of men. They're tough defense, Miles Garrett, and then Zach Wilson. Or will it be Rogers by then? The Miracle Man, already on the field, throwing passes. Look, I am impressed that he's standing up without crutches and doing this. I'm also terrified for the man.

Because I'm like, if you slip, if you take the wrong step, you just has surgery on your Achilles. That seems like a, I doubt that's in the protocol. Like freewheeling it a couple weeks after. And you can be on one of those super dope scooters, man. I know. This is your scooter. A scooter chance. Who wouldn't want to do that? Yeah. So other good pickups at defense, I'm going to throw the Raiders out there. I know that they are. a team that you don't think of as a great defense. I talked about there last week. Yeah, the last couple weeks, you know, they shut down the Packers. Packers only scored 13 points on them. And then obviously it was the Patriots here where they only scored 17 points. But now they go and play against Bilbo. This is a badger. A Mount Doom situation? Yeah. So I'm fine playing the Raiders this week. It's terrible. This is a terrible show.

The Rams play Pittsburgh. They're at home. Pittsburgh is not, they don't have a lot of ceiling as an offense. Yep. And so, yeah, no, I love the Raiders. I think the Raiders are a great option. I think they're rostered because people played them against, at least some people played them against the Patriots. But if they're there, grab them. Tampa's defense. Yeah, I was going to say the Bucks versus the Atlanta Falcons. That's their, like. I don't know if the bucks are putting up huge fantasy points for the defense, but they're just solid. They're good. And Atlanta has been trailing a lot. And look, even though Ritter has been playing better, I would like to have a defense against a trailing Desmond Ritter, throw me some interceptions. Yeah. And for the same reason, I'll throw out the Jacksonville Jaguars against the Saints. The Saints offense is broken. And I love playing defenses against broken things.

Full stream ahead. All right, streaming quarterback options this week, Mike. Who are you throwing out there? I'm going to go with Sam Howell. He has to stick on the New York Giants. I know that the Giants just had a very tough game there with the Buffalo Bills and we didn't get to see the Josh Allen. We're used to seeing. But I think that Sam Howell with the quarterback options out there, he can get it done. He's quietly the quarterback 12 on the season coming off of Two delightful games as the QB5 and the QB7. He is willing to run the ball. And he's, I mean, he is getting it done like two weeks ago, 388 yards in the air against Chicago. They're one and a half point road favorites against the Giants this week. I'll throw Brock Purdy out there, the redemption game for Brock Purdy. It's going to be redeemed. Monday night football against the Minnesota Vikings. They are allowing 75.2% completion rate.

second highest in the league. And they're going to need Purdy to get it together. I think Debo, I think he's going to play. I think McCaffrey's going to play. So the weapons should be back in full form. It can't rain in there. Inside the dome? That is correct. Well, I mean, it can rain like dollars. Are you talking about his little like water fumble? As I'm calling it. These hands. Yeah, they, it slipped out. That's a bad feeling. Like you saw his face in the slow-mo. And he's going back to pass and the ball just flies backwards. That's not where you wanted it. No. I'm going to throw out Gino Smith. He's playing against Cardinals. He hasn't had great fantasy production, not since week two. So you might find him on a lot of waivers after waivers clear. Same with Brock Purdy because of his bad match, bad game that's last week. Look for them if they're not there today when you're making your claims.

Look for them tomorrow because I think they'll hit a lot of waivers. The Cardinals ranked 31st and scheduled adjusted fantasy points allowed to the quarterback position. Last week, Matthew Stafford was a little bit disappointing against them because the touchdowns were run in, not thrown in. However, there were two really bad drops right in the end zone hitting puka in the hands and hitting Higbee in the hands. So Stafford should have had, you know, a lot more fantasy points. All right, I think that's going to do it. Tomorrow we have Hungry for more of the Thursday night preview. Lots to talk about. We'll react to the waiver wire and what transpired in our leagues and in your leagues. And we'll get to the starts of the week on Thursday. More matchups, the fantasy faceoff with the wheel. Oh, yeah, we're back. We're back, baby.

Oh, that's so stupid. Nice and comfy. This one shouldn't even count. Oh, you know what? You can sub in pretty much anybody for DiMarcata. You still would have been one. It still would have been shamed. All right, that is going to do it for today's show. Talk to you tomorrow. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.