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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Fantasy Risers, Questions & Answers

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What is going on? It is Tuesday, May 19th, and we are the fantasy footballers. How are you boys doing today? I am excellent. I'm recovering from my Mad Max epileptic seizure. Oh, do you need a blood bag? That was intense. That's a great movie. Did you like it, Jason? I have not seen it yet. Thank you three children. Oh, well, you know, welcome to the show. We are the fantasy footballers. This is Andy. I am joined by Mike, the fantasy hitman, right?

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Hello. And Jason hasn't seen Mad Max. Forgive me America. That's okay. That's okay. Let me ask you guys a quick question. Let's start off the show with this one. How important is it to draft players on good teams? How important is that? Because let me tell you why I asked this question. Oh, a long, long time ago. I'll tell you, I'll tell you the truth real quick. I heard you say, how important is it to draft good players? Oh, no. It's pretty important. Why are we asking this question? How important is it?

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that you draft guys that are actually on good teams. Because when I was a young in in the fantasy football world, my first team I ever played on, I didn't know what I was doing. I had like five saints on my team, and they were terrible that year. And I think there was a head coach in that league I played in, too. But I made a decision the second year. I said, I'm going to draft players that are on good teams. And I won a lot of games. So how important is it to draft guys that are on good teams? Because the other side of the coin says what?

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garbage time, talent rises above all. What's the argument there? Do you ever pay attention to that? Yeah, I do a lot. I think that it's very important in the early rounds. When you're drafting with your first three or four picks, I put more weight into it than not. And generally speaking, most of those players will be on good teams naturally. But when I see players on bad offenses, and let's be clear here, not just teams, but offenses.

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I think that that weighs down for me because when you look at any year in the past and then you look at who were the top finishers, how often are they really going to come from bad offenses? It's very difficult to do. So I'm going to let that be a huge tiebreaker for me in the beginning. Now, later in the draft, when I'm throwing flyers on guys, I might care a lot less. But early in the draft, I really, really, I don't want a guy. I kind of feel like you're cheating, though, a little bit. You do? Well, because obviously good offenses you want to pay attention to, but I really.

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wanted to focus in on a team that's winning games versus, you know, going 500 or losing. You're saying. The team itself. Well, then to me, it depends on position. Yeah, because Seattle has been great for a couple years, but Russell Wilson was a great fantasy option, but it was only Lynch up until this year. Let me give you any example of something I looked up. I looked at the running backs from last year, and guess how many?

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of the top 10 running backs were on teams that were above 500. Well, that's a position that I would naturally lean and say that it's more important to be on a good team so that you can keep running the ball. So I'd say almost all of them. Yeah. So 8 out of 10 and then one of them was on a team that was 500. There you go. What does that say about a guy like T.J. Yeldon? Well, are we already jumping into Yelden? No, no. I just wanted to bring him up because he's on the Jaguars and they're historically bad.

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They are historically bad. Trent Richardson is now historically bad, but he was on a terrible Cleveland Brown's team, and he was a top 10 runner. Okay. I was just curious. I was just curious about that question in general, because I used to think more about it. I kind of feel like I stayed away from it, so I wanted to look at the numbers, you know. No, good. I agree. Getting a player from a good team is, it does break ties for me. Garbage time absolutely exists.

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But what is more consistent and more reliable is actual good teams who are going to produce every week. I don't want to have to count on that fourth quarter late touchdown to save my week. Counting on garbage time stuff. It's tougher than you think. You think, oh, even Jacksonville, they're going to get down and Alan Robinson's going to catch a bunch of balls. And maybe it happens some weeks, but.

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Yeah, there's a reason they're bad. Maybe Blake Bortles throws three interceptions, and they just don't stay on offense. Exactly. The same reason they're bad is the same reason they're always in garbage time, and it's the same reason that you can't count on those offensive producers. Makes sense. All right. Today we've got a good show for you. We've got some news and notes we're going to talk about. We've also got some risers, some guys that are moving up our board. Guys that we like based on some things that have happened in the draft and just early indications from camp.

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And we have a whole bunch of questions too for our mailbag section. So we're going to get into that. Don't forget, you can follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers. You can follow Mike at FFFHitman, Jason at Jason FFFFFFel. And if you want to follow me, it's at Andy Holloway. On the web, the fantasy footballers.com. You can also email us, email the show, mail at the fantasy footballers.com and hop on to iTunes, subscribe to the show if you like it, if you like all this offseason content. And if you want to leave us a review, we appreciate that.

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In fact, we're going to read one of those right now. Review Osoras Rex. This one comes in from Mugzilla 23. This is what he says. He says much like the Hangover movies, this podcast has it all and never gets old. Each episode builds you up to teach you the lessons of not only fantasy football, but life in general. He said, I waited two months before writing a review to see if I really liked it.

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And needless to say, I'm hooked. Well, thank you very much, Mugzilla. He also goes on to... Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is what I want to talk about. In his review... We have a problem here. He says Jason Moore as Stu, and these are the characters from The Hangover, Mike Wright as Alan and Andy Holloway as Phil. Now, here's the problem with this. What the people need to know first is who was Zach Gellifanakis? That's what they're wondering. So just because...

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I have longer hair. I have a giant, I have a giant majestic beard. I wear a man bag. It's a satchel. You love wolf shirts. Just because I am Allen, why do you got to bring, why you got to do that? Just because you are Alan, why do you have to call you Alan? Thanks, Magzilla. Yeah, appreciate that. You too can leave a review on iTunes and help the show out. Let's go ahead and talk about some news and notes.

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News and notes from around the league. Yeah, that is the right sound to make. Today's news, Jason, did you already see this, Ryan Tannehill? I did see that, of course. Oh, yeah. Got paid. Ryan Tannehill, a new six-year, $96 million contract that includes $45 million guaranteed, and the news on that is the team probably got a good deal. Yeah. Yeah, they did. I thought it was only a four-year deal, so they were just lumping it together saying he has two years left. Right.

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Maybe that's what that is. That is what it is. It's a four-year deal, but he's got two left, so six years on his contract. That's still a big investment on a guy who we've said his numbers are going up every single year.

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Oh, I was scared today because on my phone, I got an app alert, and it was like, breaking news, Ryan Tannahill, and then I got distracted. And so I was like, no, I couldn't get to it. Fares his ACL. No, I was like, we've been talking so much about him, you know, and Jarvis Landry and all the weapons there. And then it's like, oh, man, did he go down in camp? And then it was just like, oh, he got paid a lot of money. I was like, oh, yeah, of course. Oh, that's pretty good for a guy who switched late from a wide receiver to be a quarterback.

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That positional change worked out. Yeah, I'm thinking about switching from a podcaster to a quarterback, so he gives me a lot of hope. A lot of dollar signs in my end. You'd make a few extra dollars than you make here. Dennis Pitta likely headed to the pup. That's so sad, man. The one hip quitta. Oh, come on. Have some respect for the dead. Oh, man. Yeah, it's sad. He was so productive. Flacco loves him, and he's a good player.

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But he does think he's going to play again, but they drafted two tight ends in the draft, and he's likely headed to the pup to start the season. He's similar to my grandmother. Uh-oh. One hip. Oh, yeah. Well, he's probably done. He might be done. 30 years old? Something like that. Oh, what do you guys make of this Russell William? Russell Wilson contract stuff.

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I make... What is happening? What is... I wish this was a plan drop where we could talk about. I don't know. The wild west. You know what that is? I jumped over to NFL. I jumped over to NFL. I wanted to get a little statistical information. And they got me on one of those advertisements that just came up. Very good. We keep it professional here. I wondered where it was coming from.

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I thought you had something special plan for Russell Wilson. The audience was excited. Yeah. Yeah, I make nothing of it. It's stupid. He's in contract. He's going to play. He's going to get a lot of money. He's going to be paid. And these are just the negotiations. The process, you know, I don't know. I've heard that there are tens of millions of, you know, of dollars apart. But I just feel like it's all negotiation at this point. And he'll get a huge contract. And he'll be the quarterback there forever. I think it's just absolutely ridiculous.

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maneuvering by the Seahawks, kind of like when the Saints did it with your, you have a franchise quarterback. Half the league doesn't have a franchise quarterback, and you're going to play these games with him. He got to the, he won the Super Bowl, his second year, got there again in his third year. You got to, you have to pay this man. Have you seen how much money is on the books for their defense? They have to, you know, pinch pennies here with him. They're making a lot of people mad right now, Bruce Irvin.

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He's going to say, well, what's his butt? It's going to Atlanta, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Allegedly. It's just curious because you don't want those things to distract your guys, and they said that they'd be happy franchise tagging him for two years. The next two years. Just to even say it, though, is, what are you doing, man? A couple other bits of news. TJ Yeldin, I'm rising on him. We'll talk about him a little bit later, but...

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All indications look like he's just going to be the featureback. Denard Robinson's not going to have a role other than change a pace there, and no one else is in the mix. So you like T.J. Eldon. Yeah, we'll talk about him. Denard Robinson. Come on now. That's tough, man. When you're a guy like that, you know what reminds me? Toby Gerhardt. Oh, DeNardt Robinson reminds me of the Justin Foresat situation, his whole career, where you're too small, for anyone to consider you a main back, but when you play, you put up five a carry.

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That's exactly what Forsett did it multiple times in his career. He'd come in, back with him, he was in Seattle. He'd come in and he'd dominate or play really well, but then you're like, eh, there's no way he can be a back, so he just third string again. Yeah. Well, he doesn't tie his shoes. Who doesn't? Shoalaces? No. No. Yeah, that was, it's too late at night. Come on now. Matt Jones. Matt Jones is ruining my life. I brought him up a few weeks ago.

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Third round running back for Washington. They really like him in the workout so far, and they said maybe he could eat into Alf's role. And another report came out and said, Alfred Morris, only a 50% chance to be signed again. So if you're in a dynasty, keep an eye on Matt Jones. And also sneaky value this year, if for some reason Alf can't get it going. What does this do to Alf to you guys? I mean, it's early news. I was really ready.

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especially after our discussion last week to move him up in my rankings. And the second I make an adjustment to move him up, all this Matt Jones nonsense starts rolling out. Like, oh, here we go. So it's really hard to know what to do with Alf at this point. I think the con, if they extend him, then I believe everything should be okay. But if they're not going to give him a contract,

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