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Third grade makes Mike and Andy men
Mike says he secretly replaced Michael with Mike in third grade because too many classmates shared his name; his mother only discovered it when teachers discussed Mike at a parent-teacher conference. Andy says he changed from Andrew to Andy in the same grade but remains Andrew to his parents. The hosts declare that shared grade the point they became men, then fabricate a much stranger Randy-to-Jason transition.
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Brooksie needs the S
The hosts address Brooks as Brooksie and ask what his parents call him. The exchange says they also use Brooksie, proposes shortening him to Brooke, and rejects it because the S is essential, with Brooks Robinson as proof.
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The Spotify Live Party Room opens on schedule
The hosts announce a same-day Spotify Live event at 3 p.m. Pacific and 6 p.m. Eastern, tell listeners to get ready to party, and explicitly call the event the Party Room.
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The Shark from Jaws 3D reaches 18–0
The current Megalabowl leader, the Shark from Jaws 3D, returns to first place at 18–0 with almost 1,500 points. The hosts congratulate the achievement and immediately predict the undefeated shark will exit in the first playoff round.
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Megalabowl's 'don't be a turd' rule
The show describes the Megalabowl as a roughly 20,000-player tournament administered with commissioner Ray Smith and help from Papa Josh. Although the podcast is normally anti-veto, obvious tournament collusion is reversed, cheating winners are denied the title even when initially missed, witnesses are asked to report misconduct, and one of the rules is 'don't be a turd,' followed by a warning to wipe better.
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Megalabowl locks the playoff waiver gate
Because the Megalabowl is a giant tournament, the hosts tell managers to read its altered rules: no waiver additions are allowed during the playoffs, details live at Megalabowl.com, and the trade deadline is Week 11. Winning teams know and follow those rules.
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Jason sweeps Ride or Die
Ride or Die follows its Chevrolet cue with a recap that Jason swept all three prior disagreements: he alone faded Antonio Gibson and Kyle Pitts, while he and Mike believed in Gino Smith. Brooks voices the new JuJu Smith-Schuster top-15 and DeVonta Smith 70-yard thresholds, then is credited with setting Chris Godwin at 12 fantasy points.
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Kyle catches Jeff Saturday managing two teams
A news item explicitly credited to Kyle says Jeff Saturday will coach against Davante Adams after Adams was confirmed on Saturday's fantasy roster. The hosts imagine Saturday refusing to double-team Adams, putting a rookie on him, and calling Cover Zero on every play to win fantasy.
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Football sits between sausage and rockets
Jim Irsay's press-conference claims that he does not know how to make sausage, does know how to build an NFL team, and that coaching is not rocket building lead the hosts to place football scientifically between making sausage and constructing a rocket.
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The Dump Truck dumps your fantasy team
Leonard Fournette is introduced as the Dump Truck and remembered as an early-season favorite for Nickname of the Year, but his disappointment reverses the praise: he is now dumping the listener's fantasy team like a truck.
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The schlub test sends Fournette to Slubville
A Jonathan Taylor trade discussion stops to define a fantasy 'schlub.' The hosts dispute whether ten points per game is too useful, consult sub-ten running backs for a formal schlub test, introduce a Slub Truck and Slubville ticket, and briefly name Papa Josh as an example before immediately retracting the insult. Fournette is above the numeric threshold but described as heading toward Slubville.
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Kyle is the entire Lockjaw focus group
The hosts revisit a likely Terrace Marshall Jr. / TMJ Lockjaw nickname and say 'the people' like it, then reveal that the people in question consist only of Kyle. They clarify that the approval concerns the name, not the medical condition; the adjacent Panthers context and ASR-mangled player name make Marshall the likely referent.
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Andy has to announce that he is here too
The produced roll call names all three hosts, but the live opening repeatedly says Jason and Mike until Andy cuts in with, 'Andy's here, too. That's me.'
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Gus Edwards gets two Gus Bus beeps
John Harbaugh's expectation that Gus Edwards will return in Week 11 is immediately answered with 'Beep, beep,' reviving the Gus Bus vehicle language in miniature.
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Mr. J.T. holds Jonathan Taylor faith together
Jason is addressed as Mr. J.T. and called the glue holding faith in Jonathan Taylor while the Colts situation is rendered as swamp water; Jason still describes a path for Taylor to emerge through it.
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Brooks supplies lines, listener trades, and live fact-checks
Brooks voices two Ride or Die thresholds, is credited with setting the third and collecting Twitter and Instagram trade questions, and immediately answers a live Amon-Ra St. Brown ranking check.
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Episode notes
The live opening accidentally repeats Jason and Mike until Andy announces, 'Andy's here, too.' Mike says he abandoned Michael for Mike in third grade because too many classmates shared the name; his mother learned about the change at a parent-teacher conference. Andy says he changed from Andrew to Andy in the same grade, prompting the claim that third grade is when they became men and a fabricated Randy-to-Jason transition. Brooks answers that his parents still use Brooksie, while Brooklyn and the proposed Brooke shortening fail because he needs the S and invokes Brooks Robinson. Spotify Live's Party Room is scheduled for the afternoon. In the Megalabowl, the Shark from Jaws 3D sits 18–0 with nearly 1,500 points, while commissioner Ray Smith and Papa Josh help oversee about 20,000 players. The normally anti-veto show says it will reverse obvious Megalabowl collusion, deny cheating winners even if initially missed, enforce 'don't be a turd,' lock playoff waivers, and use a Week 11 trade deadline. Ride or Die records Jason sweeping all three prior picks, including his Gino Smith belief; Brooks voices the JuJu top-15 and DeVonta Smith 70-yard lines and is credited with setting Chris Godwin at 12 points. Brooks also collected trade candidates from Twitter and Instagram and answers a live Amon-Ra fact-check. Kyle voices a Jeff Saturday fact that becomes Cover Zero sabotage theater. Gus Edwards earns a 'beep, beep' Gus Bus callback. Jim Irsay's press conference places football between sausage and rocket building. Leonard Fournette's Dump Truck reverses into dumping fantasy teams. Jason is dubbed Mr. J.T. and the glue holding Jonathan Taylor faith. A later argument invents a roughly ten-point 'schlub test,' sends Fournette toward Slubville, and briefly uses the visibly reacting Papa Josh as an example before retracting it. Finally, Kyle is revealed as the entire favorable focus group for Terrace Marshall Jr.'s likely TMJ Lockjaw nickname.
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Andy's here, too. That's me. The thing about my name, it is so unique that you could just, it's like Brittany. Just start calling me Mike. People will know. Which Mike I'm talking about? There's only one. It's like, like Madonna and Mike. Yeah, Mike. Have you ever gone by Michael? I was Michael until, because that was the name that my parents gave me. Right. And then I got into third grade. You made the change? And I made the change. There was just always other Michaels in my class. I mean, that's my father's thing. But it's like big, big shocker at that time, just Michael's everywhere as we still are. And I was tired of it. I said, okay, I'm third grade. I'm Mike now. It's very interesting because I made the transition from Andrew to Andy in third grade.
Oh, that's when we became men. Yeah, this one, we decided to take our own. I did as well around third grade. I made the transition from Jason a few. From Randy to Jason. Yours is a little more extreme. Right. Yeah, also strange. Sure. Middle name to first thing. What is the thought process? Do your parents still call you Michael? They call me Mike. They make the change. Yeah, they were very surprised. I'm still Andrew to my parents. At the, uh, in third grade. When they went to the parent teacher conference, the meeting, and they were like talking about Mike. My mom was like, what? Oh, she found out. That's how she found out? It was under the radar. Hey, Brooksie. Do your parents, do they still call you Brooklyn? No, they call me Brooksie. Okay. I think you should start going by Brooke. Just shorten it. I've gotten that plenty in my life. Oh, you have? Oh, yeah. And that wasn't, you didn't like it.
Now you've got to have that S in there. Right. Because there's more than one Brooke. Brooks Robinson. Yeah. What was a great start to the show. Welcome in, ride or die, NFL trade talk, as in news, and then we'll talk trades. Fantasy trades. Yeah, fantasy trades. Thursday night preview today, some mailbag. A couple of things here at the top. Spotify Live today, 3 p.m. Pacific, 6 p.m. Eastern. Get ready to party. The party room. And then congratulations to the current Megalobole leader. They're back. The shark from Jaws 3D is back on top 18 and 0. Can't keep a good shark down. Almost 1,500 points. Wow. So congrats. I mean, you haven't won, but you're in the lead. Yeah, I mean, in reality, you're going to get in the playoffs. He'll be out the first round. But this is really impressive what you've done so far.
I also have a miniature PSA I want to give for the Meglabel right now. Okay. It just feels necessary. We're heading into week 10. And I just want to address like trades in the Meglabel. This is the trade episode of the fantasy footballers. Makes sense. And so we have a wonderful commissioner, Ray Smith, who takes care of a lot of what takes place in these Megalibole leagues. And the Megalobole is extremely popular. I think about 20,000 people playing it every year. And Papa Josh helps out as well. But I just want to appeal to the sensibilities of the mostly wonderful Megalobole players to please, please don't try to process disgusting collusion trades in the Megalibul. And I know that it's few and far between we see them.
We reverse them. Mm-hmm. And if we, for some reason, wouldn't have seen it and you go on to win, you don't win. Mm-hmm. So you can't win by cheating, even if you got away with it. You're just wasting everyone's time. And being a turd. And we don't want you to be a turd. Which is one of the rules of the megalible. Don't be a turd. That's right. That's right. So just be aware that we have our eyes on all those leagues. And this is as much to the other people in the leagues that if you witness one of those things take place, please reach out to us. We will fix it. We are very anti-vito as a podcast. We don't believe in the veto. But in the Meglabel in particular, we are going to turn something. Like if the 12th place team trades their four best players for the four, you know, worst players on the first place team,
That's not going to happen. Not in my house. No. So just be good people. Yeah. Which most of you are. But the turds out there. We smell you. Wipe. Wipe better. Also, a more, just like awareness of Meglabo, make sure you know what the rules are. Because. Megalobole.com. It's a gigantic tournament. And so we kind of have to alter some things. So waiver additions. They get turned off at some point, Jason. I'm speaking not out of turn, right? Yeah, the waivers are locked in the playoffs. No ads will be allowed in the playoffs. So make sure you are. Yes, be prepared for that. Yeah, and if you have any questions, if you've got questions on those rules, meglable.com, we've got kind of the breakdown. Just read a little bit more than you have in the past. Yeah, trade deadline week 11. So keep, keep yourself ready to go.
The teams that win are, they know the rules and they play by them. So let's do some ride or die. Ride or die presented by Chevrolet. Well, Jason and I made opposite decisions on all three picks last week. And so Jason won them all. So if you want to ride with somebody. Let's ride. Based on recent history. Ride with Jason. Stupid Antonio Gibson. Let's ride. Yeah, he was the only, Jason was the only one not to believe in Antonio Gibson, Kyle Pitts. And the only one, well, not the only one to believe in Gino Smith. Mike did as well. But this week, heading into week 10, right at eye predictions. Brooks, what do we have? All right, guys, first one is Juju Smith Schuster versus the Jaguars. Will this trend continue? Top 15 fantasy wide receiver. He's done it three weeks in a row. I was surprised when I was looking into this.
he's got two games on the season where he hasn't where he's had fewer than eight targets since week three he's basically on pace for 140 targets i i'm really surprised how involved he's been because you know when when we saw the first two weeks like week two he had 10 yards it just seemed like oh yeah the longer you play with marquis valde scantling the more you target other receivers and sky more has been not impressive as well i spoiler alert I'm riding here and he's my start of the week this week. Oh, okay. Nito. He, go ahead. I will, uh, I will once again take the opposite of Andy. I will choose, uh, die here solely because, uh, you know, last, last week, six teams on by. He squeaked in as the wide receiver 15. I do think he's a fine play. That's not to say that, um, it's a bad matchup or that he is someone you should bench at all. Uh,
in PPR he should be good. But I do think they'll get Cadarys Tony more and more involved and more competition on the week. I will choose that. Yeah, I'm going to go with die as well. The matchup is very, very juicy. But heard a good friend of the show, JJ Zacharisen was talking about the usage of juju of you. Okay, last three weeks, huge yardage. He's been fantasy relevant. You would think, oh, well, maybe they're going downfield more. with Juju. It is in fact the opposite. They are coming closer into the line of scrimmage as in fewer high air yardage targets. So that's very fascinating that he's starting to thrive in that, which was, you know, the last time we saw him in Pittsburgh where he was doing pretty well. That's kind of how they were using him. But top 15 is, it's a little too juicy for me, so I'll say die. But I'm with Jason that he's still a good play.
There's a lot of number confusion on my eyeballs now in Kansas City because Juju's Massachusetts wears number nine in Kansas City. Buddy wore number 19, which is now the number that Cadarious Tony is wearing in Kansas City. And so you see 19 and you think maybe it's Juju. They run them like tight end. I mean, they run them like Travis Kelsey. Him and Kelsey will go run mirror routes and then Mahomes will choose to throw it to Juju sometimes instead of Kelsey. Devante Smith is our second right-at-eye prediction. Brooks, what's the line you have for us here? All right. At Washington, or at least against the commander's 70 receiving yards. Home versus the Manders. The Manders defense has been much better recently. Not great, but better. That being said, they are the number one best.
defense over the last six weeks against tight end. On the season, if you adjust for schedule, they are number three. So I think they match up well against Dallas Goddard. I don't like how high this line is. It makes me, like I wish I could get this at like a 65, but I'm going to ride because I do think DeVontz Smith has a good game. Is that because you traded for him? It is not because I traded for him. There is hope. I mean, my hope he has a great game because I traded for him. But I do think that it lines up decent in this matchup for DeVontz Smith. Mike? Let's see. So over his game log, we saw him hit over this threshold in week five against Arizona, week two against Minnesota, and week three against, you know, the Manders. So that's when he had that huge game where he was the wide receiver one with the...
about 169 yards and a touchdown. But it's too high. It's too high for me. So I'm going to die. I'm going to die as well. Yeah, take that, Jason. I don't blame you. I didn't trade for Smith, so I'm out. I feel like the line should have been like 62 and a half. But whatever. What's done is done. You mean so that we could all, oh, you would have gone a more comfortable ride. Right. Yes. A more luxurious. Right now it's bumpy. Yeah, I want a smooth ride. Chris Godwin versus Seattle. Brooks set the line at 12 fantasy points. I abstain. He had 12.5 in week 6 against Pittsburgh. It's the only game he's done it this year. He hasn't scored a touchdown. I'm going to ride. I am pretty bullish on Tampa Bay this week after the comeback victory over the Rams. I know it's been a rough ride.
As bumpy as it gets. Yeah, there's no shocks. No, this ride is, I mean, it's going to, you might end up with a concussion, but I'm going to go with him. I'm a ride. So I was blown away looking at how many targets Chris Godwin has had comparatively. I mean, since, so, you know, he plays in week one, which was shocking, right? We did not expect Chris Godman, Godwin to be ready. And then early on in that game, You know, he only played 31% of snaps because he injured his hamstring was out for a month. Since he has been back, he is on pace through those six games for a full season pace of 175 targets. That's great. He's got zero touchdowns. And I think we're going to talk about this a little bit tomorrow. But if that is an outlier, I will ride with Chris Godwin. I think he gets a touchdown soon.
Hopefully this week since I'm riding. And I do believe that Chris Godwin is, you know, for today's episode, he is a really good trade for target. He's still coming back off that injury. We know it takes time for these guys to just get up to their previous production from the injury. He's got his buy next week. So I think the rest of the season, Chris Godwin's going to be a really, really solid play. It's so bizarre what is happening in Tampa Bay. You'll have Tom Brady looking just completely washed. You have Chris, then you have what looks like miscommunication between these guys, bad ball placement. Drops all over. Yeah, and then the receivers start dropping when Tom Brady's actually hitting. It's so bizarre. But that line will go, I mean, I have to ride for my team. But 12 and a half or 12 points.
If we could just get the one touchdown this week. And maybe we'll get some bonjour luck here for Germany. All right. That was Ryan or Die presented by Chevy Silverado. Learn more about Chevy Silverado at Chevy.com. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. One of the players we're going to talk about today is Leonard Fournett because I think so much pressure has been put on the passing game in Tampa Bay. And so when you have that much pressure on you, that many attempts, no running game, people start to press, you get drops, you get miscommunications. I don't know. It's at least where I place some of the blame beyond Brady. All right, news and notes, Josh Allen dealing with a sprained right elbow. It will limit him this week, not considered major, but definitely a solid, like.
normal amount of questionable for week 10, like actually questionable. Yeah, I think it's 50-50 that he plays. You need to be prepared to be without him. That means you need to be prepared not only if you are the Josh Allen manager, you're going to start digs no matter what, but like Gabe Davis is a Josh Allen creation. This is why I love him. If Josh Allen was not playing, you know, I would like to pivot and have a different player in my lineup. Yeah, okay. John Hardball said he expects Gus Edwards back for week 11. Beep, beep. It's going to be complicated. I mean, that's two weeks from now. It's one of the benefits of having Kenyon Drake go this past week. He was great. And then you get more time for that hamstring. Jameson Williams. Lions coach Dan Campbell says he hopes to get him back in December sometime. Cool. Well.
Cool. The news has been all over the place. We've got an amazing lineup of news in this show doc. All that happened on the second of the month, so the next update will come December 2nd, apparently. When he's out for the season? Yeah. Originally, he was back in March, way ahead of schedule to return. Then in August, it looked like November. Then in September, it was going to accelerate the timeline. And then the Lions lost so many games that I think they're like. Let's just take it slow with him sometime in December. But, I mean, he's not a usable fantasy asset for redraft. Might he negatively affect your confidence in Alman Ross St. Brown in the clutch part of your fantasy playoffs? He wouldn't for me. I mean, maybe he comes out and he's just an electrifying rookie wide receiver off of an ACL in his, you know, those first couple games at the end of a season.
But if anything to me, it would just help the offense take some of the pressure off and get Amin Ra back in the end zone. Yeah, I mean, week one, DJ Chark had a really good game, stretching the field, doing good things, and Ammon Ra also did. Yeah, you don't want a Elijah Moore situation with the rookie Garrett Wilson. Colts assistant quarterback's coach Parks Frazier. 30 years old, I believe, we'll call offensive plays under Jeff Saturday. Okay. He used all his words up yesterday. I have no comments. Okay. Well, there you go. What is this piece of news you have here, Kyle? Jeff Saturday plays against Devante Adams and it was confirmed a couple weeks ago. He's on his fantasy team. I have to imagine that Jeff Saturday has.
relinquished control of his fantasy roster. Or has he? Or else he's taking it to the next level to win, guys. Look, we're not going to double team Devante Adams this week. We're going to kind of, I think he, I think let's put our rookie quarterback on him, really make him show how good he is. We're going covers zero every play. So we don't need to talk about Jim Mersey saying that he knows, he doesn't know how to make sausage. He has no idea what goes into sausage, but he does know how to build a. of NFL team. Yes. There's an inless list of quotes from that press conference. He also had one where he said, you know, they're, you know, they're not making rockets. You know, they're just like when it was like talking about Jeff Saturday's ability to coach teams, like he's not building rockets. It's just football. So it's somewhere in between like sausage and rockets. Right. Okay. That's where football lands. Football is scientifically speaking somewhere between making sausage and building a rocket.
Okay. And to be fair, I think that's true. Right. I think it is more complicated than making a sausage, less complicated than building rockets for outer space. So well said, hearsay. All right. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Let's talk trades. Let's talk about it. Welcome in. Trade segment. Very important. Trade deadlines on the way. lots of them are before the week 11 kickoff depends on your platform what you set up I know in a couple of my leagues they are at the end of this week and then we have a playoff primer episode coming next week so we're getting you ready to go I know we're just over the halfway point now in the actual NFL season but we're well beyond that in the fantasy season and so we are going to talk about the most asked about players and trade candidates that have come through on Twitter and Instagram Brooks has collected a number of these for us and we will begin with
The dump truck himself. Leonard Fornett. Really disappointing that the, I mean, he has to have been the early season favorite for nickname of the year. Yeah. And this is what he's doing to us. Yeah, he's dumping your team like a truck. Yes. This is a situation where, look, I wasn't, I was looking at starts of the week this week. And. I looked long and hard at Rashad White because I do believe a necessary transition is coming. We talked about this in the office a little bit yesterday. Leonard Fournett, he has a history of emotional tumult. He's a pretty temperamental player. Then it comes out last week. He was extremely frustrated when he was not on a drive that Rashad White was on.
He's been under three a carry for three consecutive games. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you know, we talk a lot about Najee Harris. Do they make a change? He can't run the football. He can run the ball better than Leonard Fournette can run the ball right now. Now, Fournette is very valuable in the passing game, which I think necessitates his time on the field. But Rashob White can do that too. And as you attempt to make a transition, you know, this team saved their season last week by beating the Rams. Right. Rashad White has significantly more juice. You do see rookies start to make their move in the second half of the year. And the athletic came out yesterday and said the momentum is going to be with Rashad White at the end of the season as well. So from a fantasy perspective, that's all the kind of prologue of the question, what do you do at Leonard Fournett? What kind of target is he in this offense? And what are your expectations? Because without the rushing...
ability he hasn't been a you know any sort of league winner for you he's he stabilized your team due to pass catching at times but um what do you think and the the touchdowns overall are just they're not flowing for Tampa Bay they're thinking through it like I believe for Tampa Bay because the passing game is not working the run game doesn't work they they aren't run to pass they are passed to run is at least the way that I feel like Tom Brady operates his offense. For me, Fournett is not a trade at all costs. I'm not just jumping out of a moving card to get away from Leonard Fornett. But we have some interesting ideas here, like from Instagram, from Steven said, should I trade Fournette and Tony Pollard for Dalvin Cook? And to me, that's an upgrade that I would be immediately, immediately taking.
Tony Pollard is, if Zeke is gone, he's crazy good for fantasy purposes, but the team has already said Tony Pollard, or Zeke will be the lead guy again. It will go back to the timeshare. And Fournette is kind of stuck in his what looks like an evolving timeshare. So I would immediately go to Dalvin Cook if I could. Yeah, whenever there is a running back that is solid, but I have fears over them. We talk about this. You try to trade up. at the position. And that's what this is. If you can turn a Leonard Fournette into a Dalvin Cook, that is a clear upgrade at running back. It's hard to trade away Leonard Fournett in general because like right now, we're disappointed with his production. He is a top 10 running back. He's the running back nine. His pass catching is a really solid baseline that helps your team. I am certainly not trading for Leonard Fournet. I'm not paying.
up to go get him. And I don't think that people are really selling him for pennies on the dollar. So it's a matter of in your league whether you can convert Leonard Fournet and a piece into a better running back. It's, you know, otherwise what, you know, if you're trading him across the aisle for a wide receiver, then you've got to get someone really, really good to give up a solid running back spot. I doubt you. I doubt you get a significant enough upgrade at wide receiver. Cordero Patterson. Would you rather have Patterson or Leonard Fournett? That's one where coming off the injury, the age, the frustration in the offense in Atlanta, you could pull off potentially the one for one. Yeah, I think you could. I think that most people would take the Fournette side. So if you wanted Patterson, I think you'd get that trade to go through. I would stick it out with.
If you want to manipulate people, you can go to the number that, you know, the buy weeks are creating a different dynamic when it comes to what you are as a running back. True. I mean, Leonard Fournet is 17 by points per game. He's below Cordero by a significant margin. Cordero's 10 in points per game. So that might be an area you could pull it off. Would you rather have Fournet or, well, you answer the Patterson one, but then also throw mustard in there? I would. I think I would take the shot on Patterson. The Falcons offensive game playing is here to stay at this point to me. And Patterson, Patterson looks good when he's getting the opportunity, getting a little bit more healthy. Well, the other, oh, Mostert, I would not. To me, Moster's arrow is pointing way, way down with the addition of Jeff Wilson. I think that's, it's going to, Mostert moves into.
pretty much you have to get a touchdown or you might be looking at running back three numbers. They don't pass to him enough and Jeff Wilson's very capable. But we do have a couple other questions here that we got for some lions. So Jason, this is from at Pilgrim DJB, Daniel Jones Burner, Fournet or D'Andre Swift. That's a, which is, I mean, this is, glow in my mind. Yeah, that's a really interesting trade because what you're. What you're literally doing is you're saying one guy has a pretty good floor and his ceiling just isn't there and probably won't be there with Rashad White coming in. But it could. It could come back. Touchdowns could go more his way. The other player has a just microscopic floor right now and DeAndre Swift. Has a five touch ceiling right now. Right. But his upside if he gets healthy comes back could be a league winner.
Personally, when I look at those two players, I'm on the Fournette side. I am pretty rather scared on DeAndre. Fournette is a veteran playing for a veteran team. He's buddies with Tom Brady. I don't personally see the transition happening where Rashad White just takes over, especially in the passing game. He is a very capable pass catcher, but I do think that they will, if you look at the routes run, numbers. They were drastically still in favor of Leonard Fournett, even though I think he only had like one more carry than Rashad White last week. I'd probably go Swift because I'd be looking to close the deal at the end of the year, try to win a championship. And I think I'd try to get the magic from DeAndre Swift. That's how I lean. Getting healthier. And I'd be a little afraid of that transition. But Jamal Williams getting a lot of opportunities right now as well. Oh, man.
Just to throw this out there, I know we'll do the playoff primer later, but the Detroit Lions, week 16 and 17, if you get to that deep run in the playoffs, Carolina, Chicago. Oh, hello. Pretty nice for league winning. Yeah, that's pretty good. I did start to, so this is the time of year where, depending on your record, you are glancing at some of that stuff. Yes. And in the, like our dynasty league. I'm very confident I'll be in the playoffs in that league. And I started looking even at matchups for premier players on your roster where your quarterback matches. Maybe you have somebody that's kind of locked in. We'll talk through all of those upcoming schedules. But it's time to glance because your trade deadline is coming for preparation. So got another question for you. One final one about Leonard Fournette, but let's take a quick break before I get to it.