Week 5 Studs & Duds + Grizzly Facts - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/9

All the studs that helped you or hurt you and all the duds that hurt you or helped you. We're discussing in today's episode. You're going to love it. Make sure you leave a comment. Tell us how it went for you and subscribe to the channel. So we're always with you all season long. Enjoy. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast. For those who are nasty, that's the fantasy footballer's podcast. I'm nasty, Mike. I know. I'm real nasty. Jason Moore. Always, always nasty. Also joined by Jay Gris, the cardboard bar extraordinaire, aka J. Riz, handling his win with dignity. Yeah, that's right. Big, uh, big week for the bears out there. All the, all the, the animals.

The bears. All the animals, all the bears out there's a big week for them. What else did I miss? Are you just saying that when the team, the Chicago Bears wins, it's a huge day for the species? All bear kind. Which bear takes the most pride in a victory from the Chicago Bears? I would imagine brown bears. Is that not like what the Bears mascot is? It's not a grizzly, right? I don't know. Someone find that out. Yeah. Is there a specific bear that the Chicago Bears lean into? Anyways, welcome to the show. It's Monday, October 9th. Uh, we got one more game tonight, but we had another sensational weekend of football. Uh, quick. Oh, wait, we got Staley da bear. No. No, his name is, Staley? You're telling me his name is Staley da bear?

That's what I'm seeing. What's your source? Oh, it is. I see it too. Staley. D-B-B-A. As in like the bit of D-A-Bers. Staley-D-Bair. Well, which one came first? The mascot or the S-N-L sketch. I think the mascot. D-U-Bers. All right. Well, check it out. Staley-de-Bair resembles a grizzly bear. There we go. There's our fact of the evening. Uh, follow us on social, Instagram.com slash fantasy footballers or follow us on X slash Twitter at the FF ballers. I am at FF Hitman. The nasty one to my right is at Jason FFL and you can find Andy at Andy Holloway. A lot of things to get into, but it is Monday. So, yes, you get the pinkies up. I'll start it here, Jason, with good gutters. Yes, he was.

Oh, how about Travis? Very bien. Good delivery. Breece Hall of Fame. Oh, and you had Jamor Chase. We got a lot of foreign language here. We got DJ, Mi Amor. Oh, how lovely. Yes, but then there was the bad. Yeah, there's the bad, like JT's. Oh, hopefully you heard that one right. We got Naja Harris. Or, uh, seedy on the lamb. Yes, thank you for indulging me, Jason. Uh, blah mandre Stevenson. Or the best one of the week. Matt burrito farts. Matt burrito farts. So good. I mean, you know, he doesn't really have big boy pants. Right. But. So a burrito fart would devastate his tiny little baby boy pants. Tiny pants are ruined with burrito farts.

So real quick, I'll pull. We already know from you two. Jeremy, are you familiar with the phrase on the lamb? I am. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we got at least half of it because I, that was my joke because I had CD and I'm like, where is he? He must be on the run. On the lamb, like an old-timey mobster when you're on the run from the man. but i had never heard of this on the lamb and half half the office had never heard this yeah and i imagine half our audience hadn't but we do nothing if not educate here now you know that staley da bear is a grizzly um and you know that on the lamb is an old-timey reference for on the run where were you on that one have you kyle had to have heard that one no never heard of it oh gosh dang it yeah

Oh, man. It's all the old dummies that know that phrase. Get some culture in your life. Let's move on to the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. All right. If you happen to miss it, JT's, he seems like he won because he got healthy. He got ready to play. And the Colts gave him a three-year $42 million contract extension. He is now the third highest paid running back. an average salary behind Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Camara. And he ruined people this week. I mean, ruin them. And not just, like, this news of him getting the contract is part and partial to why he ruined people. Because, like, I know I, I love, there is a bit on this show that has gone back from the NFL draft where I love to dunk on Zach Moss and talk about how untalented he is. And hopefully we've.

equivocated enough that that is mostly a bit. We've told you to start him. No one was starting them this week, right? I can't imagine. I know. I'm sure that look, I get it. We're going to get screenshots of no, I definitely started Zach Moss. I get it. Some people did, but we're talking about that is a you, did you want to? That's the question. What happened more? What happened more? Zach Moss was started by the teams that had Zach Moss. Or Zach Moss was cut this weekend. by the teams that had Zach Moss. I don't think people would be cutting Zach Moss. You still want valuable backups, but because he came out and got that bag of money and the team came out and said he's fully healthy, ready to go. They did say we're going to work him in, but the work in was. Well, here's here's the truth. Very slow. Zach Moss looks.

I'm freaking believable. I mean, like, we're watching this together, and I'm just eating my words over and over and over. He's the best running back of all time. I've never seen a player look better than Zach Moss does right now. And the whole game, I'm just thinking, oh my gosh, is Jim Earsay just super upset? He gave this bag of money to Jonathan Taylor. Like, you don't need him. You've got Zach freaking Moss, who is great. apparently years of being bad. It's really funny because I feel like on the timeline of life, my Zach Moss hatred, it's been a huge win. Yes. Huge win. People wanted to draft him so high in rookie drafts and they were all in. I was all out. And unequivocally, he was a bust. Yes, 100%. If you drafted him. He got traded. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He was a bust for Buffalo running back 45, 52, 63. It's just not been good.

And then, I mean, I expect the PED pop any minute. I don't know what happened, but he's legitimately good. He looks unbelievable. He's healthy. He's in a scheme that works for his running style. If you, in case you missed it, I mean, he'll be in the studs, but we're talking about it. Zach Moss versus Tennessee. A team, you cannot run the ball on. They hadn't given up a hundred yard rusher in forever. In a, like a fortnight. But. Who is the one to get it done? 23 for 165 and 2, including a 50 plus yard scamper for a giant touchdown at which point I shouted, there he goes. And Jason's like, oh, Jonathan Taylor is back. And then we catch the number and the name on the back and it was Zach Moss. And Jason's laughter was so pure and genuine of like, this is such a ridiculous thing. It made me so happy. As some, you know, look.

Sometimes you just want the world to burn. And seeing that Zach Moss dominated was so frustrating. And I really, I do empathize with everyone who had to make that decision. You had both players. Or even you just had Zach Moss, who's been good. Jonathan Taylor's back. It's a bad matchup against Tennessee. Like, I would personally have benched him without a shred of doubt if I could. If I had another pivot option. And I know Andy posted a tweet. with tons of screenshots of people that did get to start Zach. Congratulations. Usually everyone was backed into that forced to start him. He also added 30 receiving yards. So he had almost 200 yards from scrimmon. And two touchdowns. I mean, it's unbelievable. The RB6 on the season right now. Bears running back, Khalil Herbert, Jay Gris, cover your ears. Ankle injury from Thursday night was confirmed. It was a high ankle sprain. He should miss multiple weeks.

The Bears will be interesting to talk through tomorrow on waivers because Roshan Johnson left that game early with a concussion. He's in protocol. We don't know. But so far this year, pretty much anyone that's gone into protocol has missed one week at least. So that's my expectation right now. They also went and signed, forget who it was, but they signed a practice squad guy already after the game. So I think they're anticipating they'll be without him, which means Deont Foreman, he's going to get his shot. Saints wide receiver. He was seen going through an extensive pregame routine with a trainer. I mentioned this on Sunday live of this looks like a guy who was not healthy and his quarterback is not healthy. Pretty sure you didn't say his name. Chris Olave. There you go. Sorry about that. Just one of the Saints wide receivers. Chris Olav. Christian Olabe. And it was, I don't know what to make of this because the team is not making anything of it. But he ended up with a stat line of 2 for 12 with a touchdown. So.

Not the worst possible thing that can happen, but it was, it's something worth monitoring. Then from Sunday, Anthony Richardson, the Colts quarterback, hurt. Unfortunately, yet again, initially diagnosed a grade three AC joint sprain. We're looking at he could miss a month or more, probably ends up on the IR. He's going to get a second opinion. And then we'll go from there. Daniel Jones, Giants quarterback. He left in the fourth quarter with an... neck injury. He did not return. He will be marked as iffy and questionable. He will be getting an MRI. Travis Kelsey, if you saw the play, he went down in a heap on an on-contact injury. And it was, you could feel fantasy souls leaving their body as Zeus went down in a heap. And it was, oh, crap. Then the replay showed what was his ankle? He was mad. At first, I thought it was like an Achilles. The way he went down, it seemed like.

one of those classic non-contact injuries where he didn't do enough. You're looking to see if the calf rippled. Yeah, exactly. But then on the slow-mo replay, you saw it was, he twisted, he rolled his ankle. So he goes to the locker room. I will say this with him. Well, he, so he got called in the locker room by Taylor Swift. She said, shake it off. He did. Oh, God. No. Yeah. No. I don't guys I don't how do I know you don't need any buttons unless you here I got the button for you yeah there it is thank you thank you anyways he came back finish the garbage that's the one I can find that's garbage it was garbage but that's kind of what we do here sometimes he did come back finish the game played great kind of touchdown was awesome I don't personally believe that this is a guarantee

that he plays this next week. We have seen this. He's on Thursday night. That's what I was going to bring up. He's got a very short week. And we've seen this a lot of times. Like when you first roll your ankle, you could tape it up and play through it. But then once you rest, it swells. So it's just something to monitor tomorrow. We'll be talking about potential tight-end pickups just to be prepared. It's actually kind of nice that he's Thursday because you will know ahead of the entire slate. You can make a pivot. Justin Jefferson exited in the second half with a hamstring injury. We had the towel over the head on the sideline. So if you follow that narrative of a player's body language saying, I am hurt for real. Yes. They were down seven in an important must-win game against the Chiefs. And he was going to go. Yeah. So that's, I mean, that that isn't science or medicine, but I, you know, history says he's probably going to miss some time. Carnals.

Cardinals running back, James Connor. He exited with a knee injury off of, it was a man run. And then he got hurt and he did not come back. But what was so weird about this? So he's injured. He hurt his knee. He gets ruled out. He's sitting on the sideline. And then to go to halftime, he runs into the locker room. He doesn't walk or take a cart. He's jogging into the locker room. Maybe he was testing it. Sure, yeah, maybe, but I would, I mean, is that a good sign? I don't know. Who knows? Tank Dell, Texans wide receiver. He left very early with concussion. Juju Smith-Schuster. He also had a concussion left. A situation to monitor. Devon A. Chan, the greatest running back in the history of the NFL through two games played or whatever we're at. No one could stop this guy. It's unbelievable. He touches the ball and he gets 10.

Oh, 10 to 70. Yes. And every play seems like he's just, he's just so much faster than the defenders. And this scheme is a perfect fit for him. So far the last three weeks, he was the running back one, the running back four, the running back four. But he did roll his ankle. Yes. He did not play again in that. That was his final snap of the game. And it, you know, kind of reminds me of what we saw with Austin Eckler. Yeah. Where it was like, it wasn't, this one was a blowout. It was 31 to 13. So he did not come in after the injury incident. So we have not heard anything else. We're just, we try to catch all the information that we possibly can so that you're, the listener, you're in on it as early as possible. But it's just, that is something to monitor. And Monday night football, Devante Adams is expected to play. He's been listed as questionable all week, missing practice all week. Answering Devante Adams questions on Sunday Live was, it was impossible.

I have no clue. I have no clue if he's going to play, but I do think he plays. He's saying he will. He got this injury last game, went to the locker room, got a shot, came back out and played. So I think he's going to get a shot pregame and play. We've seen him do those type of things before. It is an injury where you usually miss a week, but he's a tough guy and I think he'll be out there. If he's not out there, hopefully you have a pivot option like Jaden Reed. Sure. Someone like that. Renfro. I mean, your options are very limited. But hopefully you don't need it or hopefully he plays and gets you what you need. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usAA.com slash insurance. This week's fantasy stud muffins. Well, Justin Fields was great. We got it. He destroyed me. Josh Allen continues to have a tremendous fantasy football season.

They lost. They didn't really look particularly good. I think they scored 20 points. They did nothing in the first half. Right. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh yeah, he was awesome again for fantasy. 3.59 and 2 also had a rushing touchdown. Jared Garf. Jared Garf. In one of the most, his was so interesting to me because Amun Ross, St. Brown is out. Jamir Gibbs is out. It's on the on paper, it's man, David Montgomery is going to have a huge game, which he did. And Jared Goff is, how do you play him in this scenario? And honestly, he'd 20 for 236, but he threw three touchdowns. I mean, what a rush? Did he have a rushing touchdown? Yeah. I'm, I am misremembering that. So.

I mean, they blew the socks off of the Carolina Panthers who looked terrible. And did you see the play, Josh Norris tweeted this out? When we're watching the games, a lot of times we don't have sound on certain games. So I missed it live. But there was a play where they direct snapped to the running back. But the quarterback, golf was lined up under center. He was standing behind, and they snapped the ball between, through his legs, straight to the running back. Oh, no, I missed that one. It was wild. I've never seen some. On purpose? Yeah. That was the play. It was pretty neat design. Yeah, I did not. You get to play with crazy things when you're, you know, beating someone down 40 to whatever it was. So Jared Goff at home, it continues to be someone that you can play. He's not necessarily been fantastic on the road, but.

At home, he throws more touchdowns. He is a perfect, perfect streamer because he's so predictable. Here's what's going to happen. He's going to go on the road to Tampa Bay. Don't play him. He's going to go on the road to Baltimore. Don't play him. Three weeks from now, he's at home in a plus matchup against the Raiders. Absolutely start him. I mean, it's so nice when a guy can do what the expectation is, and golf has been great at that. Jalen Hertz. Over 300 passing yards, passing touchdown. Huge day on the ground, 72 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown. Desmond Ritter. So, so wild. 329 passing yards. One tutty. He had a rushing touchdown as well. The reason is wild. He was 28 for 37 and he looked. He looked good. He looked good. So it wasn't, it wasn't some crazy stat padding like, oh, screen.

where a wide receiver housed it and bailed him out. Kyle Pitts had 11 targets. We noticed it right off the bat. You pointed it out like, you know, we were five, six plays into their side of the ball. And Mike's like, dude, Desmond Ritters's like looking good. And then we just keep paying attention. He looked great. Now, I think it was just his day. You could be. You know, when you've got a sample size, I mean, obviously he's a young player. It's early in his career. Maybe he can level up. Also, this was against the Houston Texans, not a devastating defense. But it's a team that generally our fantasy quarterbacks do not have a ton of success. Because you can run on them so much, which they weren't. Their run game was not what we expected. Yeah, it was, it was a pretty cool game, though. The Atlanta Falcons pulled out the last second victory. Brock Purdy, he had four touchdowns this time.

So he, I mean, 250 and 2 is what we normally expect from him, but he had four passing touchdowns. In four point leagues, he's currently the QB5. He does play Cleveland on the road next week, not necessarily the best situation. Yeah, and that was against the Cowboys defense. So it was a, I mean, that was a big game for the 49ers who looked like an unstoppable juggernaut at the moment. They really, really do. I mean, they look absolutely unbeatable. Their defense is, I don't know how they hit harder than every other defense in the league, but every tackle looks like just so punishing. And their defense, I don't even know that it's the strength of their team. Their offense might be better than their defense. Yeah, the first drive with the scripted plays was, it was perfection against the Cowboys. Sam Howell, it was the Thursday night game. Andy started the week, but he came through with a big performance. And then here we go.

Oh, man. Joseph Burrow, 36 of 46, 317 and 3. I believe Jamar Chase had about 90% of that production there. But the point is, he played the Cardinals on the road, 300 passing yards, three passing touchdowns, a good completion percentage, gets to play Seattle next week. Where are we? Our approach with Joe Burrow this weekend was more of a dude. You absolutely cannot drop Joe Burrow because he's an elite, talented quarterback. But we get it if you want to bench him this week. I mean, I think that honestly, our advice was more you should bench him. So I would imagine most people did not play him. He did have a pretty good game. Are you right back in versus Seattle? Yeah, I think because it's a good matchup against Seattle, I'm okay playing him. We said don't drop him because we know he's going to get back.

We just don't know is that going to be one week or four weeks from now. The Cardinals' defense is not great. So maybe some of it was just bad play. They don't have anyone on the roster that can stop a Jamar Chase, right? Right. So that's the issue. Seattle does. Seattle has some guys in their secondary that can give him a little bit of a harder time. So maybe it's more of the Arizona matchup, but what we wanted to see what we were waiting for with Burrow was, does he look like he's throwing the ball well? Can he move in the pocket? There was a great play where scramble to his right to buy some extra time, threw it back across his body to the end zone for Jamar Chase. It looked like classic vintage Joe Burrow. And then even late in the game, he scrambled for a first down. He ran the ball. And when you're doing that, it's like, okay, he's not hampered. He had a 10-yard run.

that was like, I don't think you do that if your calf is really, really bothering you. He said after last game his calf was good, so I'm okay with Burrow now. I'm back in. So he gets Seattle this week, then he's on the by week, but then it's San Francisco and it's Buffalo. Brooks is bringing up, do you, are you looking at moving Joe Burrow, like taking this moment of saying, the elite quarterback is back in action? I mean, I don't know. If I could trade high. I don't know what quarterback you're going to. get back or whoever you have as your backup. Yeah, I mean, if I could trade high, I would, but that would require getting, you know, another top flight type of quarterback. I mean, I don't know if every league is so different. And, you know, someone might value Joe Burroughs name so much more than Justin Fields despite the two massive performances. They might be thinking, oh my gosh, I'm parlaying Justin Fields to.

big performances into getting Joe Burrow because he was injured. And they, you know, for me personally, I would much rather have Justin Fields than Joe Burrow. So if I could make a trade like that, I would do it. And take a quick break back with the running back studs. Had the weekend go for the deucer alley, aside from Owl, who dismantled me on Thursday night. How was your guys' fantasy weekends? Brooksie. Not bad. Depends how Devante Adams. I'm waiting to see. You're on Adams Watch. How many points you need? I have an advantage, but my opponent has Christian Watson as well. Oh. Yeah. That's what I got on. All right. And then the Rapscallion, you're doing all right? Well, my burrow chase stack actually worked out really well. But I'm still facing DJ Moore Montgomery. So it comes down to tonight and Josh Jacobs. So we'll see. All right. Jacobs should have a pretty good game.

at the running back position. Travis E.T.N. A very strange game. Him and Ken Walker are very, like, the parallels between these two guys is, like, they're the same person. I've never, I've never seen them in the same place. I've never seen them in the same place at the same time. Like, just terrible runs, getting stuff. Nothing, nothing. The run game is absolutely shut down. Oh, huge 50-yard play with a touchdown. Shut down, shut down. Another huge play. Both of these play, both Ken Walker and Travis ETN were viewed as riskier draft picks, which guilty I felt like Travis ETN was going to see a lot more competition from Tank Bigsby. Uh-huh. And we felt the same thing with Walker. With Sharbonnet and Ken Walker and Travis ETM are dominating.

ETN is running back four on the season. It was 26, 136, and 2, and involved in the passing game as well. Zach Moss, we kind of covered him. He's just, he's, I mean, he's elite. What do you do with Zach Moss? So that is the question. That is the question. What do you do next week? Like, you know, I think you play him. Jonathan Taylor played, do you know how his snap percentage? It had to been like low teens. Yeah, it was 15. Okay. 15% of the snaps. So this was all Zach Moss. It was Zach Moss's, I mean, he had 23 carries and a couple targets. He looked phenomenal. But what do you do? I think you have to play him at least one more week. You're playing him this next week. I think it'll be because it'll be just a split time show. So are you playing both? Yes. I think, I think, oh, man. I know. I have more confidence playing Moss. The question is, does it bump up to 50-50 or does it bump up to 60-40?

In favor of Zach Moss. You know at some point. Yes. Jonathan Taylor will take over and Zach Moss will go kaput because he's not going to be fantasy relevant if he's getting, you know, 35% of the snaps. But we don't know when that's going to be. And maybe it's a longer process than we expect. I'm very happy. I don't, it's weird to not to be happy you don't have the RB6 on the season, but like going forward, it seems like just a mistake factory. It seems like a mistake factory. Yeah, it just seems like a place that is building mistake. Choosing wrong. Yeah, like this last week, everybody benched them. The majority of people benched them. As opposed to a steak factory. Oh, that sounds great. Which would be my favorite place. Breece Hall, we're back, baby. Yeah. I mean, it was the Denver Broncos. 22 for 177 rushing touchdown. Huge vintage Breece Hall breakaway run.

Great to see that. 52% of the snaps, season high, 73% of the running back opportunities. We absolutely love it. Ian Hartett says a tweet, if you take away Breece's, Brees Hall's 72-yard touchdown, he would only be averaging 5.7 yards of carried. So he was great, the front to back in that one. Devon A-chan, again, only on 11 carries, 11 for 151 and 1. He was over 100 carries on carry number three. Or 100 yards. Yes, over 100 yards on his third carry. He's just, don't give him daylight. Rahim Mostert also had another good game. And just a reminder of Devon A. Chan, his ankle monitor that situation. David Montgomery has an ankle monitor? Monitor that situation. Well, I mean, his ankle monitor, that situation is a problem. That would be a much bigger problem.