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The hosts describe releasing the Ultimate Draft Kit like a caged animal into the plains, reject a small bird for a lion, go full Jurassic Park, and say they will put it out, run, and let it rip faces off. Video remains on the normal desk without literal animal imagery.
Jason jokes as though Adam Thielen himself remembers catching 100 Bryce Young passes. Al's off-camera laugh is so large that the desk tells him not to laugh that much and insists the bit is fine rather than worthy of his response.
The hosts say the Nico cue never accumulates on screen because a giant pit beneath the frame catches it for later retrieval. The pit is dialogue-only, but direct video really covers the host desk with falling dollar bills as Nico's contract news begins.
The hosts reveal that producers hear and laugh at botched listener voicemails that probably never air. At the close, a thank-you to 'the whole team' jokingly names only Mike, Andy, and Jason before immediately correcting to the actual full staff; video remains on the trio.
While discussing selfish fantasy reactions, the hosts remember Mike being angry when Elijah Mitchell took the final touchdown in a game where Christian McCaffrey had already scored roughly five times.
Kyle's written Will Levis mantra is 'chuck it deep or get rocked.' The hosts imagine Levis thinking 'It's Levis time' before every snap, invoke Banana Rama, and call him a nearly free three-to-five-leg parlay that probably misses but could turn $5 into $1,000.
A listener accuses the Arizona hosts of overrating Trey McBride. The desk reveals Mike has McBride as TE1 and demands an explanation. Andy initially reacts with disgust, then apologizes and praises Mike for making a courageous conviction ranking capable of winning rather than playing safe.
The inverse Cardinals-homer question asks whether watching Hollywood Brown fail in Arizona made the hosts rank him too low. They say a red Hollywood jersey must be updated yet again because nobody wants him and note that the color still works for Kansas City. Video never shows this jersey; the framed red jersey on set reads MURRAY 1.
Andy's voluntary agreement with Mike does not require the saved Golden Ticket. Jason says his ticket still grants one free Andy Holloway agreement, refuses a proposed ban on using it during My Guys, and waits for the right moment. Direct video shows Andy lifting the real gold card with GOLDEN TICKET printed across it.
Jason says his private league is knowingly governed by his Iron Fist: he can add rules as commissioner because members joined his dictatorship. The main League of Record is the opposite, explicitly requiring a supermajority—not unanimity—for major changes. A revolution joke ends with Jason confirming he removed an unknown replacement manager.
Review of all 35 storyboard sheets plus targeted video shows Mike left in a gray shirt and patterned cap, Andy center in black with cap and glasses, and Jason right in black with a white cap. No live producer cut, fourth host, special costume, Listener League canon, Megalabowl canon, Wheel, or punishment occurs. A generic black bear appears briefly in the standard green opening animation beside the podcast app; it is not identified as Jay Griz and never enters the studio. The Ultimate Draft Kit release is imagined as opening an animal cage, choosing a lion over a bird, going full Jurassic Park, letting it rip faces off, and running away; video remains on the ordinary desk. Al then laughs so hard off camera at Jason's Adam Thielen/Bryce Young joke that the hosts call the bit merely fine and his reaction excessive. The Nico cue supposedly never accumulates because a giant unseen pit beneath the screen catches it. Video does not show that pit, but it does cover the desk in real falling dollar bills for Nico's contract. Mailbag reveals that producers hear and laugh at botched voicemails that probably never air. Mike's touchdown greed gets a retrospective: during a roughly five-touchdown Christian McCaffrey game, he was still angry when Elijah Mitchell took the last score. Kyle supplies Will Levis's mantra, 'chuck it deep or get rocked'; the desk adds 'It's Levis time,' revives Banana Rama, and treats Levis as a nearly free parlay that probably fails but could turn $5 into $1,000. A Cardinals homer audit exposes Mike's Trey McBride conviction. Mike ranks McBride TE1; Andy challenges him, then apologizes for his disgust and praises a courageous ranking that can win. The inverse audit asks whether Arizona failure made the hosts too low on Hollywood Brown. They mention a red Hollywood jersey needing yearly updates because nobody wants Brown; none appears on camera, and the framed red studio jersey is Kyler Murray's. The voluntary McBride agreement does not consume Jason's saved Golden Ticket. Transcript calls it one free Andy Holloway agreement, and video shows Andy lifting the real gold card with GOLDEN TICKET printed across it. Jason then says a private league runs under his Iron Fist: as authoritarian commissioner, he may add rules because members joined his dictatorship. The League of Record is explicitly the opposite—a democracy requiring a supermajority for major changes, not unanimity because one manager may say no for power. Jason jokes about making an example of a revolutionary, retracts it, but confirms ejecting an unknown replacement selected by a departing manager. Finally, a 'whole team' thank-you jokingly names Mike, Andy, and Jason before correcting to the actual staff; video stays on the trio.
We got a great show for you today. We're going to break down the numbers behind rookie quarterback performances, and can you trust their wide receivers in year one? We're also going to answer a ton of your questions, some debate on being a commissioner with an iron fist, and a whole lot more. Make sure you subscribe and enjoy. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in.
The Fantasy Footballers podcast Thursday, May 30th. Mike Wright, Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. The final episode before the Ultimate Draft Kit is released to the world, which we release it very much like an animal out into the wild. It's caged. It's been caged up for a while. Yep. And then now we take it out to the, you know, the open planes and we release it. Oh, okay. It's much more. I mean, I don't know. Look, when you release an animal from a cage, there's a lot of different directions that the direction can go. The direction that I think that the UDK goes is full Jurassic Park. You know what I'm saying? We're, we're turning the power off. Is this is just letting people go just get eating by this thing. They didn't release the dinosaurs on purpose in that movie. Are we releasing a lion or are we releasing like a small bird? I see. It's a lion.
Yeah. So it's going to rip your face off? That's right. We put it up and we run and we just let it do what it's going to do. Okay. But that will be Saturday, June 1st, the ultimate draft kit, all our tier base rankings, all the premium stat projections. We just completed the recording of 100 plus video player profiles. So we dive into... Just like a brief three, four minute overviews of our perspective on the top 100 players in the game. Those are extremely valuable. If you haven't watched those before, because I know there's a lot of stuff in the UDK. So you've got the UDK before and maybe you've never really watched those. We've got like one video where you can watch them all together. I think they're extremely valuable. I learn a lot doing it. I think you'll learn a lot watching it or listening.
We have the custom cheat sheets. So you can import your league scoring settings, printing out cheat sheets if you like to do that. I'm still a cheat sheet guy. I prefer to do it on paper at the draft, but we have the app and we have the web interface where you can mark players, which you can do that and use the cheat sheet. But you can just use the app to actually follow along with who's drafted, mark them drafted, which players you want to stay away from. We all have, we've gotten together. And we've figured out some sleepers, some breakouts, some values and busts that we all agree on. And there's a whole lot more consistency charts. And like you said, the mobile app, risk and upside. And a ton of tools like market share, target share, strength of schedule. And that's all part of the regular UDK that comes out on June 1st. You got one more day to get at pre-order pricing and then blam! It's out. At order price. At the lion's out the cage.
Ultimate draft kit.com for that. This was our last show before it's released. So we wanted to draw your attention there. And the quick question, I'm going to throw the question out there, but it's kind of more of a discussion. Okay. The question is just, should I trust rookie quarterbacks? No. Uh-uh. Okay. So I mean, they're valuable. Nice and quick. That's the default reaction. And so I thought that I would do a little digging. Look at the numbers. We had an article that came out around this topic back in 2018. It's not 2018 anymore. It's been a while. We've had a number of new rookie quarterbacks coming to the landscape. So I want to share the data that I have mind and just get your reactions to it because, you know, Caleb Williams is going to start this year, number one overall picking the draft. Last year we had Stroud, we had Bryce Young. We always talk about Herbert's great rookie year, but then you have other players that struggle.
So we've bantered all around this topic talking about the upside, the downside. So I wanted to look. Here's some information for you. There have been 28 quarterbacks drafted inside the top 10 picks since the 2010 season. So 13 years, 28 quarterbacks within the top 10 picks. That is 10 of the 28 quarterbacks have been the number one overall pick in that span. Three years there wasn't a quarterback drafted number one overall. The rest of those years, we had a quarterback go number one. So when you look at the data, some interesting things. In the last 13 years across 28 rookie quarterbacks, only three receivers out of 30 that I looked at reached a 100 reception plateau. It's not great. So three of 30 hit 100. It was Reggie Wayne.
Makes sense. With Andrew Luck. With Andrew Luck. It was Keenan Allen. Okay, with Herbert. And it was Adam Thielen. So that is, which was last year, by the way. Right. Last year with Bryce Young. I remember. I'm old enough to remember when I caught a hundred passes from Bryce Young. So don't laugh that much, Al. You laugh way too hard at that joke. The bit is too good. The bit is fine, but Al finds it so funny. The problem is, Jason, you needed to go with, what? I don't remember that. So that's 11% by the way. Wait, I had a feeling with Bryce Young was one of those three? He was one of the three. That feels so wrong. That's 11%. A hundred receptions. That's a strong amount.
Great number. So, but that's only 11% of the receivers that I looked at. Okay. In the last 13 years across the 28 rookie quarterbacks, only seven of the 30 eclips 1,000 yards. And that is a much, 25%, much more achievable number than 100 receptions. Which, by the way, one of those was Delaney Walker with Marcus Marieto, so a tight in. So I basically looked at the quarterbacks drafted in the top 10. I looked at who their top receivers were. Sometimes I considered just one of them. Sometimes if the reception totals were close, I'd look at more than one. Sure. You know, for example, Jake Locker was one of the guys in 2011, and his top receiver was, can you even guess? Wait, Jake Locker, so the Titans. I mean, you won't guess, but try. Was that, wait. Kenny Britt? Kenny Britt was in this sample. 2016 Jared Goff threw it to Kenny Britt. Kenny Bit.
Kenny Britt had 1,0002 yards. For Jake Locker, it was Nate Washington. Oh, yeah. Who actually had 1,000 yards. And seven touchdowns for Jake Locker as a rookie. Okay. And so here's the average. Here's the average, the leading receiver for a rookie quarterback in that span. They averaged 69 receptions. You can make a sound if you want. 837 yards, 4.3 touchdowns. Are you? I'm assuming very, not very pleased with those. No, no, you're not very pleased. I think this is really what it is, is if you want to make a generic bet, if you want to just not look at the specifics, a bet against a rookie quarterback is a good idea. If you're looking at pass catchers, if you're looking at the rookie quarterback's own fantasy finish, you want to universally, you know, the odds are against it working out. But on a case-by-case basis, let me give me more data. Okay. Because there's more to consume here.
That's the average if you look at the top 10 quarterbacks. But if you take the number one overall picks, which is 10 of the 28 in that sample, which is what we're talking about in Caleb Williams. It's a lot more intriguing. If you were a number one overall pick, your leading receiver put up 82 for 1,11 and 4. So your numbers were. Wait. I thought like, I was so confused. 1,011 yards? Correct. Okay. Because it sounded like 1,011. And then I was like, what's the 4? It's like four fumbles? It jumps from 69 receptions and 837 yards to 82 and over 1,000. So if you were not the overall number one pick, it goes down to 63 for 769 and 4. So if you were the overall number one pick, you have a much better chance of producing a receiver that puts up 82 for 1004. Now, no quarterback, no rookie ever in that sample has put up a double digit touchdown score. Okay. There's been zero.
So nobody's ever scored double digit touchdown. So your odds, DJMR of double digits are not there. The issue, the yardage can come for rookie quarterbacks easier. And they don't come a lot. There's not a bunch of people that have thrown for 4,000 yards as rookie quarterback. But the real issue is touchdown passes from rookie quarterbacks. You know, the line right now for Caleb Williams is 23 and a half. And so you're like, okay, if you want to go over that, he throws 24. touchdowns. He's in elite company. I think there's only three guys that have ever done it. And those three guys, Justin Herbert had his great rookie season. You had Baker Mayfield with his really good rookie season. And it's Daniel Jones, believe it or not, who got to 24. But like it barely ever happens. So when you're looking at the receivers, touchdowns, I think you've got to be weary of that. The touchdown numbers have just never been supported in high amounts.
The other thing that I noticed from the sample is that the majority of all these rookie quarterbacks, whether you're the first pick or the top 10, you're throwing to garbage receivers more often than not. The number one receivers in this list, it's Brian Hartline, it's Kindle Wright, it was Zay Jones one year, it was Robbie Anderson, it was Devante Parker, it was Jameson Crowder, it was Alan Hearns, and the ones that did produce were the guys that... had careers that already were worthy of production. Reggie Wayne. Steve Smith, he went for 79, 1394 and 7. That was a dominant season. Reggie Wayne 106 for 1355. Delaney Walker was 94 for 1088 with Marcus Marietta, which is wild. And Keenan, 100 for 992. But most of the time these rookie quarterbacks come into a situation where they don't have the receiving core.
that you would hope for. It's a little bit interesting this year because all of that data like Caleb Williams, you know the number for the leading receiver for number one picks in the last 13 years is 82 for 1004. And he also has guys that have done it. Keenan Allen was one of the ones that was an example, but DJ Moore did it last year. So, you know, basically it looks like rookie quarterbacks can support top tier seasons from top tier players if they're the number one overall pick. Right. but they also then need a really hyper-focused target share. And that's like where the Caleb Williams thing becomes even more interesting to me. Because if it's Caleb Williams and DJ Moore and then they draft Romo Dunzee. Like that's it going forward. Okay. Maybe DJ Moore maintains his insane target share that he had last year. But you have two true number one wide receivers. So.
I mean, how are they both going to push the target share number that you need from, because you need the targets from the quarterback of, you know, with a little bit more inexperienced, a little more inaccurate, things of those things. So you need an inflated target share to get to those numbers. Especially because rookie touchdowns aren't there. Yeah. And historically, the touchdowns haven't been there. So it's how does that split for Chicago? How does it? really shake up. We've never, we've never seen it. I mean, that's one of the things, you know, when you talk about some of these research pieces, you're already dealing with a small sample size, but we don't have another sample. Like Reggie Wayne was awesome with Andrew Luck, right? But there wasn't, the number two wide receiver that year was Donnie Avery. They did have T.Y. Hillen, but he was a rookie year, T.Y. Hilton. So it was Reggie Wayne and nobody. Steve Smith, I don't, I don't remember who the number two wide receiver was.
that year for rookie Cam Newton, but like Steve Smith was the guy. So it will be so interesting. You've got a legit prospect coming into, you know, at least two great wide receivers and you hope three. And you hope for a pass heavy offense. And you don't know if Roma Dunez is going to factor in in a big way target share wise rookie season. So it should be, it should be pretty interesting. I have the wide receiver two for that Carolina Panther team, Jason. Oh, great. Wait, wait, can Andy guess it? I know I can't. I thought. I'm trying to. It's a name you know, but I don't know that you're going to guess this one. And it's not Greg Olson because he was third on the team of 540 yards. Muhammad? What was his name? Mohamed Samu? No, Moosh, Mushin Muhammad? No, it was Brandon Lafell. Okay. Wouldn't it got that? Yeah, exactly. That's the point. That's a name that's... Oh, by the way, that was the right name for a Panthers wide receiver, Mushin Muhammad.
You guys don't remember him? Vaguely. The name's in the back of the head somewhere. All right. Yeah. So there you go. I mean, what Jason said is the hardest thing is very, very limited sample size of these situations. Sure. But so after you have done the deep dive here statistically, how do you feel about, like DJ Moore? You've been over the off-season, you've kind of been pretty bullish. Do you still feel? I still feel pretty bullish about DJ Moore. Okay, but it didn't really move me too much. Okay. On Caleb Williams specifically, but that's because of what I believe about the target share and the roles. Like, if you, I mean, it's tough. Like, Keenan Allen and DJ Moore are just fundamentally different wide receivers. Yeah. And it's not like you're splitting the same kinds of targets down the field. So it does come down to Rome, Madunzei's involvement. And, you know, there are some people that think he's not ready at all.
And there are some people that think he's going to make an immediate impact. And that will make a big difference. So I don't know if that changes any of the opinions. All of our data before had been just like rookie quarterbacks that were drafted anywhere in the first round or played 10 or more starts. Not a lot of data that we had in our old article about top 10 or number one overall. Specifically. So then did that shift how you? Think about Terry McLaurin at all since he'll have Jane Daniels? Yeah, I mean, I think the major point here is that you're not going to get big touchdown totals. We know that on both sides. We know it on the receiver side. You don't even luck into double digits. And we know it on the quarterback side with what you guys said about Daniel Jones and Baker and Herbert. So, I mean, like your odds are low for those things to happen. So you're having to make a really, really big bet. And then like McLaren, does he have a history of double digit touchdowns? No. So, yeah, I.
I don't know if I was very high on the prospects there anyways, but yeah, it puts some doubt. I mean, Drake May with Jalen Polk, what he's got to be able to do, how much of a target share there. That puts some question in my mind. I mean, I don't know if it does for you. My expectations for Polk are, they're not necessarily high. It's more of been talking about his value compared to other wide receivers in rookie drafts of this guy's. For longer term. Yeah, this guy's a starter. We won. Yeah, so we'll find out. Caleb will put it on display this year, as will Daniels in May, and we'll get to see some more numbers added to the stats. News and notes from around the league. Well, Nico Collins, who was the byproduct of a rookie quarterback last year. Do we got that drop anywhere? Are you talking about this one? Yeah, Nico. I noticed that drop, it never accumulates on the screen. Because it's filling up a giant pit on the bottom. For us to grab.
So Nico Collins, three-year, $72 million extension, $32 million guaranteed at signing. This is a big, big deal for Nico Collins for CJ Stroud over the next couple of years. He's going to have Nico and Tank Dell. And it was a huge year for Nico last season. Does it make you feel like Stefan Diggs is a rental? Like from a dynasty perspective, do you see the... Like, what would you put the odds? Now that you know that Tank and Nico are locked in, they're long term, they're sitting there with Stroud. But Tank is very cheap. Yeah, that's fair. Tank is cheap. Stroud is cheap comparatively because he's on his rookie deal. So I don't, I think it's probably a rental. But if Stefan Diggs shows up and you're like, and all the fears of him being washed are gone, then I think that they sign him. They give him a tour. They time it up.
so that he's kind of off the books as they're having to pay Stroud or Tank. DeAndre Hopkins is going to play his second season in Tennessee this year. That could happen with Stefan Diggs and Houston next year. But you're talking about Diggs is going to turn 31 this season. He'll be 32 middle of the way through next season. So him being a temporary asset is not a... What about the season after that? He'll be 33. Keep going. 34. What? Yeah. Hold on. And so on. And counting, as Mike would say. Yeah. But so, so I mean, I think Diggs, whether it's a one-year rental or not, he has a depreciating asset. Agreed. Yes. And this is great news for Nico. I mean, Nico, from a dynasty perspective, I didn't know what to do with him. Ironically, we had the dynasty show come out yesterday, which we recorded about two hours before the news broke. And I was talking about, like, there's still the concern for me for Nico long term that he doesn't have a deal signed. Man, this offense, I.
Just don't see how it doesn't work. It's going to be exciting. And that's exactly what fantasy football does. It sets you up to knock you down. Yeah. Welcome to Cleveland Brown's offense. Jarvis Landry, Odo Beckham, Jr., Baker Mayfield, coming in off of the best rookie run you've ever seen touchdown wise. It's hard to not see comparisons between those. I do have the Baker Mayfield feel. Baker Mayfield fears. Field and fears. No, keep saying them as the same word. Yeah, but it is very difficult right now, or maybe you didn't even play fantasy when Baker Mayfield had his rookie year. Going into year two, he was outrageously high. He was as high as CJ Stroud is right now in Dynasty. He was like the quarterback four off the board, and he was the future. He was a guaranteed, awesome, next great first ballot hall of famer. And you have three wide receivers, Mike, Diggs.
Nico, Tank Dell, all being drafted inside the top 25. There's going to be something wrong with that. Probably, yeah. They're like in the top 25. And if there's not, then C.J. Stroud's a top three guy. Like you can't really have a world where C.J. Stroud. Maybe. Can support three top 25. I mean, if you look back in history at the teams where you did support three top options, which has happened to before, those are Aaron Rogers when he was the number one or number two quarterback. Peyton Manning when he was, you know, the number one or number three quarterback. I think Andy's right. If all three guys hit on their ADP, then Stroud is to the moon, which is probably why we're saying like one of these guys isn't going to work out. I think the three of us all feel like.
digs is the maybe just last year the wide receiver 25 was jacobi meyers who had 71 for 808 touchdowns like if that's one of the that's but that would be the third yeah but it's just it touchdowns touchdowns all the matters if i could quickly do the math on the wide receiver 14 15 and 25 numbers from last year and what that would mean at a minimum for shroud that would be interesting but because that's where they're going it would be So Iyuk was 14. Debo's 15. That's 14 total touchdowns plus Jacoby at eight. So that's still not getting you up to the echelon that we need. No, but that's 22 among three players. That's wild. Yeah. Get a little Schultz in there. Mix a little mixing in. Don't forgive about Bobby Tree is still on the roster. He's still on the roster. I believe so. Debo had rushing touchdowns though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. A little cheating.
All right. Well, there you go. Nico Collins. I honestly feel like Nico is, do you feel like he's the safest of the three? I feel like with this deal, he's now the safest of the three. The only reason he wouldn't be the safest is because he, because of average draft position right now, he's up at like wide receiver 15, whereas tank dials down at 25. But, you know, you don't deal with the injury with Nico. You already have the rapport established. And I do think that dig's coming in. This doesn't like, there is part of it where it's like, okay, well, you can't throw it to everyone at the same play. So the target share goes down. But also, you can't defend these guys. Who are? Well, Noah Brown had huge years last year. Exactly. Or he had massive years. Huge years. The biggest years. It was like a dog year for Noah Brown. Um, he had seven of them last season. And, uh, you think that this kind of speech impediments that we have will continue. The older we get.
No, I'm sure our brains- Baker Mayfier sharper and sharper. But no, Noah Brown had monster games. Yeah, and they were down the field when things opened up, and you saw that with Nico. Schultz got the bag, though, too. Yeah, man, I think Nico is going to have a monster season. I would, I'd be most worried about Tankdale coming off of injury plus the off-season incident mixed with Diggs. Like, I love Tankdale. I think he's a great player, but I could see him having the occasional letdown. if Diggs is still the guy. Sure. Unfortunately. Any other news to get into? No, sir. No, nothing else. All right. Let's take a break. Come back with some questions. I definitely think you should go and check out the Dynasty podcast that these guys recorded yesterday, mostly because Jason time warps inside the episode. And that's all I'm going to say. That was a fun time warp. Jason went through some things. You talk about Noah Brown having a bunch of years.
Yeah. Jason threw some in. Mailbag time. Mailbag. All right. If you have a question for the show, who said that? Visit the website, the fantasy footballers.com, where you can find the UDK, but also the submit a question button. Or you can dial our voicemail hotline. Send in a question that way. 302464 TFFB. If you mess up your question on the voicemail, our producers will hear it. And laugh. Yeah. But it'll be okay. Yeah. And we probably won't play it on the air at that point. We do have a voicemail question. We're going to kick it off. Brandon from Kentucky as a dynasty question. Hey, this is Brandon from Kentucky. Thanks for everything you do for the show. I was wondering, in a dynasty, one quarterback PPR format, would you trade A.J. Brown straight up for Jonathan Taylor. Thanks, guys.
I will jump in, so the question was, this is Dynasty. A.J. Brown straight up for Jonathan Taylor. A.J. Brown's about to be 27. Jonathan Taylor will be turning 26 this year. And I would not. I can understand that that's kind of the value of what it would take to get Jonathan Taylor. He's a pretty hot commodity at the running back position. A little harder to find. But A.J. Brown. with the new deal. Yeah, there's no way. And him being locked in as, like, he's, AJ Brown to me is just outside of my tier one dynasty wide receivers, which are Chase, Jefferson, well, now I'm lose, Ammon Ra and Cid Lam. Those are the four, like that, they're at the top to me. And AJ Brown's just right behind there. After the 2025 season, Jonathan Taylor will be older, looking for a new contract, all of that.
Really? He just got a contract. He just got paid. He just got paid. And after that season, he has a $2 million dead cap if they wanted to get out before the 2026 season. Oh, you're saying after next year. Yes, after next year. Comparatively, because both of these guys just got a new contract, AJ Brown did, and Jonathan Taylor did. After the 2025 season, it would be a $20 million dead cap for AJ Brown. In fact, the dead cap goes all the way down through 2028. So this is like, it's longevity. Yeah, in a vacuum, I'm not doing it. The longevity argument aside, I wouldn't do it. But if I had two of the other top 10 dynasty whiteouts and I need a running back, then you can make that decision. Like if you want to make a run for the title, I mean, I think there are people out there that would trade A.J. Brown to get Christian McCaffrey for two years. I mean, obviously. To try to run for a title.
I do see a little bit of logic if you're super deep at running back or at wide receiver that maybe you'd consider it. But in a vacuum, I think we'd all say no. Correct. Drew Gold writes in off of Instagram with a question. Who has a better 20, 24 a year? Kirk Cousins or the aforementioned Caleb Williams. The timing of the discussion is on point. And man, if that's where you're going, like that low in the barrel. for fantasy quarterbacks. We're talking redraft. I mean, whatever. It doesn't even matter. Redraft or Dynasty. I'm going Caleb here. I'm going to take the shot of the upside because of all the things we laid out of. This is a number one overall pick who we don't have cops for what Caleb Williams is walking into. Yes, he's never thrown in the NFL. It could be a colossal disaster. But Kirk Cousins is.
has the Achilles injury, which he's, yes, he's on the field and still throwing on all of those things, but there's a big difference between guys are not allowed to breathe on you in OTAs to 250-pound men coming to take your life away from you. Does it make a difference to you at all? Eighth round for Caleb, 12th round for Kirk. Like, are those both long, you know, far enough back where you're just like, give me the upside of Caleb? Yeah, I think so. Are you on that side, Jason? So I'm definitely on the side that the round and the ADP doesn't really matter. The guy's going in the eighth round, you know, DeAndre Hopkins or Giovante Williams. Like you're not sacrificing so much that if you believe in Caleb Williams and his ceiling well over Kirk Cousins, then yeah, the savings doesn't matter there. But I'm on the side that I think Kirk Couss has a better.