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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Debate of the Week, #FootClan Questions, News
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Debate of the Week, #FootClan Questions, News
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Do you listen to the fantasy footballers podcast? To the fantasy footballers podcast. Coming to you from the fantasy jocks.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome to the podcast. Welcome to the show. Hey, everybody. Andy and Mike. Andy and Mike in the building today. Jason's back down with the stomach, folks. This man cannot get it right.
Yeah, yeah, you know, there's some similarities between Jason Moore and Jim Gaffigan. Because I watched Jim Gaffigan on HBO last night, his special, his obsessed special. Uh-huh. And many of the jokes he makes are the jokes that Jason makes, you know, about various pastries. So Jason is just a con man.
Who's a grifter and he is just, he's biting on all the Jim Gaffigan jokes. Uh, yeah, or life has taken him down a road of just ending up very similar to Mr. Gaffigan. Hey, I love food and I love food jokes. I laughed a lot. It is very, very funny. He's great. He's great. So welcome to the podcast. No Jason today. He'll be back for our big episode tomorrow. We have a tips and tricks episode. Huge. Breaking it out.
The 2016 episode of this, we like to do this once a year at least, of the 10 tips and tricks you need to know to help you in your league. These are things that you can pay attention to during the year, things you might not be aware of, things that we've done for years that have made us better fantasy football players in our leagues. You want to boot camp? Let's say you're getting your friends involved for fantasy for the first time and you want to throw them through a rigorous boot camp that will get them fit.
Their fantasy knowledge fit. Check out the tips and tricks. I was you say, Jason should miss that episode then. That's not nice. That's not nice. We love Jason, and we're sorry that he's in agony at the moment. So we do have a good show today. We have a big time debate that Mike and I are going to have. Big time. About.
uh a player that always seems to divide us and we also are going to be answering a ton of foot clan listener questions trying to get you ready for your league get ready for uh keeper decisions things like that we also have a bunch of news we want to get into and we want to apologize to randall cobb for skipping them on yesterday's show sorry about that randall it's it is what it is all right so today's quick question
is a little bit different, and we're going to do this once a week. So today's quick question is the... It's time for the fandings.com debate of the week. All right, fandings.com debate of the week. I've got my gloves on, or should I say off? You've got them off. Yeah, I put them on just so I could take them off for this debate. So we're a bare-knuckle debate? Yes. All right.
is like a man is cj anderson a top 12 running back in 2016 no no because i say absolutely sure absolutely all right so um let's let's debate this and let's try to do this in a way that is uh
You know, sometimes we have these fantasy face-off type things. They get uncivilized quickly. They get uncivilized. And they also are like long and tangential. Like, you know, you get 10 minutes to talk and I get 10 minutes to talk. I'm right. You're wrong. Okay. I'll take 10. You can have two. No. Let's just actually debate the merits of C.J. Anderson. I'm going to start and you can counterpoint. All right. So I'm going to give you the chance to cross-examine. How many years has C.J. Anderson been in the league?
Ooh, that I don't know. That's four. The answer's four, yes. Okay. You already lost the debate. How many thousand yards seasons has C.G. Anderson put up? I would say zero. The answer is zero. Does that concern you, Mr. Top 12? No, not at all. No, it doesn't. Even though you'll knock Doug Martin out of your top 12, despite having two monster game-changing fantasy years, we're going to go ahead and give C.J. Anderson a pass. When you have zero, you get a pass. Yeah, that's the way it works. All right.
Let's hear why. Why is he a top 12? Here's the deal with C.J. Anderson. The hype was huge and real coming into last season. He injured his ankle immediately. Now, we have seen plenty of times a running back where we felt strong about them. They sprained their ankle badly and they continue to play on it. That's the problem with an ankle injury is you can play, but you are a shell of what you can be.
During the final nine games, C.J. Anderson was averaging 6.3 yards per carry. He had a 4.3 yards per carry average in the playoffs. In the playoffs against the best competition that the NFL has, C.J. Anderson was smashing it? And you think, okay, well, how is Ronnie Hillman doing? Final 10 games for Ronnie Hillman, 3.9. 1.7 in the playoffs. Because that's what the people have concerns. Was Ronnie Hillman going to be involved? They re-signed him.
Ronnie Hillman is getting passed on the depth chart by a rookie Devonte Booker. A talented rookie at that, but C.J. Anderson is also a monster in pass protection, and he's actually an excellent pass-catching running back. You think Ronnie Hillman, scatback, good catching the ball. Well, here's the thing. C.J. Anderson had more receptions than Ronnie Hillman in less games.
because they trust C.J. Anderson in the passing game. Gary Kubiak loves a workhorseback when he was in Baltimore calling plays. Justin Forset, a guy that many of the league have written off got 66% of the snaps. Justin Forset. By the way, this is his fourth year. He's going into it. Yes. Okay. So I just, I see C.J. Anderson as the most talented guy on the team. I see Gary Kubiak, uh, a history of Gary Kubiak, uh,
having great success with running backs and carrying a workhorse running back. All right. So he did play 15 games last year. So we can blame the ankle, but we also blame the shoulder.
for Peyton Manning's bad finish the year before, and he came out and showed us it was more than the shoulder that was the problem. I think it's difficult. At a minimum, you have to admit it's difficult to ascertain when it hurt the most. He was still playing. He wasn't good enough. We had many conversations. He told me it hurt. Yeah, and so what? He'll play on an injury now. You have to worry about that as a fantasy owner. He'll play on an injury and underwhelm because he had a 720 yards last year, 840 the year before. I agree his yards per carrier great.
But he's also put in a position at times to, I think, take an undrafted guy who I think has undrafted talent. I don't think he's a supreme athlete. I think he's looked slow at times. And I think he's never put together a consistent year. I feel like a lot of your arguments break down when you look at why you hate Doug Martin. Now you have C.J. Anderson. You put him in an offense. It's Gary Kubiak. Okay, that's great. You've got Sanchez, Simeon, and Lynch.
You have offensive deficiencies that could cause him to have... Look, I can see different situations. If they're a great offensive line that finds a quarterback, hey, you know what? A thousand to 1,200 yards is reasonable. I'm betting on the fact that they're not going to be a very offensively talented team. And that comes down to the quarterback. So I'm projecting offensive deficiencies that lead to C.J. Anderson being inefficient. I think that...
You will have Devante Booker involved, Ronnie Hillman involved, and I'm just not going to bet on him. I mean, that's basically my argument for C.G. Anderson is that you haven't done it yet. Sure. You haven't made me happy to draft you as a fantasy owner, ever. You've made me happy to start you at times. But that goes for Lindell White and Ligarrett Blunt and a lot of other players that if you start him on the right week, you're happy. I don't think he can get there. I don't think so. And it's very fair.
I accept the arguments. And the final counterpoint I will come with is an undrafted guy that is slower than most and has an average quarterback. That sure sounds a lot like the Houston Texans. I know. I know you're going to talk about that. Matt Schaub and Aryan Foster. I know you're going to bring up Aryan. When I say undrafted, you bring up Aryan. Certainly do. And average quarterback player, I bring up Matt Schaub. Gary Kubiak is just, Gary Kubiak knows how to run.
We shall see. And you're in, I'm out. That was the fandings.com debate of the week. You can debate this exact question. You can contribute to this question and dozens more with other footclan listeners on fandings.com where the best sports fans debate sports. This is a brand new app. You got to check it out. Play now at fandings.com. And when you do, sign up with the promo code, footballers. It's a free app. Defend my honor, Footclan. Just put footballers in there and then rip Mike a new one.
All right. So listen, you want to connect with us? Do it on the web. The fantasy footballers.com. We're answering a bunch of listener questions that we got from the website. That's easy to do. You can also dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFFB. Follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Think about 400, 500 more of you are following us on Twitter every day right now. Love it. That says football's back, baby. Welcome. Welcome in. We got some preseason games tonight. How many games are on tonight?
I think four or five. I can check it out. Wonderful. Wonderful. Also, we're giving away some free stuff to the listeners. Check out Footclan giveaway.com giving away an autographed David Johnson jersey right now. It is hot. Yeah. It's going to be nice. And giving away some sticker packs from the show and an Ultimate Draft Kit from Ultimate DraftKit. Just giving away some stuff. We like to do that. Five games. Five games tonight. Cool. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league.
Well, on the heels of our good news about Jamal Charles coming off the pup, we got Jordy Nelson coming off the pup. This is fantastic news. You sounded a lot. Why did I go John F. Kennedy right there? Is that what that was? Yeah. The news is great. I love this news. You can get him in your lineup. Jordy is fantastic. The last time we saw a healthy Jordy Nelson, he's dropping.
Double-digit touchdowns and 1,500 yards. He was just incredible. Very good news can make you feel a little more confident drafting Jordy, to be honest, compared to a guy like right now, Dionne Lewis, who, I mean, what in the world is going on with Dionne Lewis? I don't know. He's not practicing despite being in training camp. Rumors of starting the year on the pup. Danger. Yeah. Danger. Back to Jordy and the Packers' offense. We left Randall Cobb off the list yesterday inadvertently. I think he's our number 22 consensus wide receiver.
