was 319 points. That was the number five wide receiver in O'Dell Beckham. Yeah. Receivers just score more points in PPR. Yeah, but then I can break that argument down really easily with the whole like, you know. Position scarcity. Yeah, I agree. But that's why. That's why you're thinking about that. I would say leave yourself open to it, see what's on the board and react. I don't like it. One of the things people have written us about the ultimate draft kit, which, you know, they love the kit, but then occasionally one or two people will be like, why don't you say what round to pick them in?
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Debate of the Week, #FootClan Questions, News
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Debate of the Week, #FootClan Questions, News
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96 passagesWell, because we don't know what round they'll be there in. Right. We don't know who's drafting around you. We don't know what the rosters in your league will look like. If we tell you go always draft Doug Martin in the second round, I mean, that doesn't give you the flexibility to react in your draft. And I'll say this, for PPR, I mean, that's the scenario where a zero RB draft strategy can work. But let's say I'm going to go zero IRB.
and then seven other members of your league are going zero RB. Yep. That's not going to work so well. No. Because the wide receiver, the top end wide receivers are going to be gone. No, but that does make, you know, Adrian Peterson is a real nice eighth round pick. All right. Let's go ahead and go to a voicemail question. I said it before you can submit questions on the website, the fantasy footballers.com. There's a submitted question button in the upper right, and then you can leave us a voicemail at 302-464 TFFB. Let's jump into a voicemail question.
So, guys, Scuba Steve. Got to keep your question for you. I got a 10-man auction league, PPR, two-quarterback league. I have a $250 budget for my auction and my keepers. I can keep up to five. At David Johnson at $30. Nice. I got Beckham Jr. at $10. I got Devonta Freeman at $10. Shady at $30. And I have Cooper at $29.
Carr at 8 and Kelsey at 1. So I need five from that list, best value possible. Thank you so much, guys. All right. That was a tremendous David Johnson. That was very good. You could hear the pause beforehand. It was like, he had to gear up. He wasn't sure if he should go for it. Which is good. You don't rush it, man. You went for it. You killed it, young man. Young man. Good, good. Everyone's a young man now. So he says David Johnson's locked in.
For me, Odell Beckham Jr. and Devonsie Freeman are locked in. Locked in. You know who else is locked in for me? Shady McCoy. I was going to say Travis Kelsey for one buck. Okay. And then I would go with McCoy. Are you going to go, you're going to go, you're going to go. You're going to take McCoy over a car for eight bucks and a two quarterback. Oh, oh, oh, I missed car. I missed car. Yeah, you're right. I would actually go Kelsey and Carr. So you're going to go. DJ ODB Freeman Kelsey and car. I think that's the way I see it. All right. And then you got, you have flexibility. You can go spend a little money if you want to get, you know.
If you go get Shady back for 35 or 40, who cares? Yep. You're saving so much on those other positions. All right. You want to read this one? We got a tiebreaker question. This is Sean in Augusta. We got... It's where the Masters is played. Well, I was debating, do I see if people get that reference or not? The Masters? No, no, no. Augusta. Oh, I don't get that reference. Yeah, okay, so if anybody gets that reference... You like to tweet it at me. Easter egg references in... Augusta. That only a few...
But it's nice. I'll be really impressed if someone gets that. All right. What is the best tiebreaker to use in a fantasy league? Total points, head-to-head, average week removing top and bottom scores. In one league, we take the weekly head-to-head and see who had the better record of the two teams if they played every single week. Any ideas, and how do you handle a three-way tie? I assume this is for end of season. I love Michael Keith. All right. Okay. It's a great question.
And it's an important one to answer now, not to answer in week 16, when one of you already knows the answer to the question when you're figuring out your answer. In our league, we use total points. For me, it's total points. I don't know if that's better, though, because I really, really like finding a way to make it head to head. Yeah. And not like just the fact you played two matchups against each other. Like, I like, I'm curious about this strategy of, okay, you take the weekly head to head.
Who would have had the better record if you played each other every week? Yeah, I would say. But that might be too complex and not reward the total points. If you're going to go every single week, I can be okay with that. That's fun. But I love the head-to-head aspect of fantasy football. That's why we do the weekly matchups. But if you get to the end and people are tied, I'm going with total points because that's just someone has proven they consistently have.
the better team, and they're not just squeaking out a victory against maybe they lucked into the person who had the lowest points of the week. So I love going with total points to break the tie. All right. Yeah, I think you're right. Pete in New Jersey. Hey guys, love the show. Why aren't more people believing in Brock Osweiler? The Brockness Monster. The Brockness Monster. He's obviously not in the QB1 discussion, but with all the weapons on offense like Hopkins and Fuller and Strong and Miller and Lamar and Braxton. Wait, both Millers. That's what he was saying. Miller time.
That's what they should call him. Miller Time. Oh, love it. Would you draft him as your backup fantasy quarterback in a keeper league? I think he could be a great boomer bust value. Well, yeah, I would do that. I'd be okay drafting him as a backup quarterback in a keeper league. Well, it's a two-keeper. I mean, it depends on the size of the bench. I guess I was thinking Dynasty, actually. Yeah, in the dynasty team, he's great. I actually have him on one of my dynasty teams. But the problem with Brock compared to...
like Hoyer. They had Hoyer last year, and Hoyer proved to be great for fantasy purposes if you wanted to stream him in the right matchup, because Hoyer would air it out to DeAndre Hopkins. We've seen Brock choose not to do that. We go back to the third down play in the preseason week one. He just checks it down. I mean, you have nothing to lose by bombing it out to your star players, and I feel like that's what I saw from him in Denver. So until...
He is willing to unleash the beast, unleash the full potential of the Brockness monster. I can't endorse him in a smaller league format. Sure. Yeah, you need to see it. And to me, you know, he's a former ASU guy. He was out here. We liked him. He's very tall. He's super tall. But that's what I was going to bring up. His arm strength does not match his body type and size, in my opinion. And that, I think, is a reason. And he's paid, especially on this type of a team.
To be more Alex Smith than Jay Cutler, okay? We all love taking chances, but he's paid to come in and not lose the game. Right. And I think he can not lose a game better than Brian Hoyer. There's a reason Hoyer can put up good fantasy numbers and not have a job. And that's because he took too many chances. And they don't want him to do that. And so for that reason, and all the tape he's ever produced in his entire life as a player, those are the reasons why I can't be super confident as a fantasy quarterback.
Great news about Osweiler to me is if you see the first two weeks that maybe he's changed that and he's going to say, hey, Hopkins, go get it. People will not buy in and you could, you'll be able to pick him up off the waiver wire. Alex Smith or Brock Osweiler. Smith. Yeah, me too. All right. Jeremy and Detroit says in a 14 team league picking 13th. It's a PPR league. What combo would you go with at the end of the first and top of the second?
So basically he is in a 14 team PPR. Okay. And he wants a 14 team mock. Well, maybe. Possibly. We'll see what we can do. We'll do at least one more, maybe two more mocks before the regular season. And this is, look, for me, if I'm at the edge, especially in a 14 team, I want a running back. That's how I play. I believe in the positional scarcity that I have a better, stronger team if I get the running back.
who's going to hit and i always believe that the guy i draft is going to hit uh so if i'm when i'm at the edge at the beginning i almost always split i'll have a running back and a wide receiver okay what's the next question here we got donnie in houston texas how close do you pay attention to drafting players with the same bye week uh i would say very very little yes why is that
The reason that is is because, to be honest with you, I probably won't have all these players when I reach the bye weeks. That's reason number one. I am a very active trader and waiver wire signing, and I feel like if you overemphasize buy weeks, you are being distracted by something. It really doesn't matter. I think there are occasions when that's really important. MFL 10 leagues, for example, are... Yeah, in a best ball where you don't change the roster. You have to do that.
There also could be a situation where, you know, if you were going to draft, I don't know, two tight ends that you really believed had upside and you didn't want to, you know, some position that you might not turn over during the year. Maybe you pay attention to that. But again, my roster is going to change so much. Why in the world would I let this determine that? Never draft a lesser talent because you think that the byweek is a problem. Like Andy's saying, these guys who have, the bypocalypse that is coming this year is towards.
You know, like week 9, 10, I can't recall it off the top of my head. Yeah. But by the time that comes up, you're going to have waiver wire replacements who can fill in for the buy week, or you'll have such a strong team from your draft. You'll have a replacement for the buy week. Yeah. Don't, don't freak out about them. You do not have more, you have basically.
Two teams in week four, four in week five, then two in week six, two in week seven. So you don't really reach these multi-buy weeks until week eight of the season. That's when it gets dangerous. And then you've got a couple of huge ones. You have six teams and then six teams the next two weeks. But at that point, your team's different. So at that point, you can pay more attention to it. What is this one? Weight loss promo? This is from David O in Ohio.
I have forced myself to only listen to the podcast while I exercise since the beginning of August with five episodes weekly. I've lost 10 pounds in a little over two weeks. Oh, yeah. I think you guys should make a protein shake and also market the podcast as a weight loss program. Oh, my gosh. Thank you, David. And hey, know what, David? Good for you, man. Congratulations. That's a great incentive. We need to get... If you want your fantasy... Dude, I need a, like, one of those desk bikes. Yeah. That I can just run...
Run on. Yeah, you can run on top of the bike. That'd be weird. That's like a circus performer. I'm going to ride the bike while we're doing the podcast. And it's just so sweaty. Yeah, yeah, that'll be good for nobody. Back to back. Good for my health, Andy. Thanks a lot. I think that might be in question. I don't know what the under desk bike success rates are. Is that pretty solid? I don't know the market. What if like you could earn fab dollars by doing it?
riding the bike? Yeah. What if you're a league, you can earn like trading value points or fab dollars? If I can earn fab dollars by riding the bike, this is a, when I come in, you're like, is that Lance Armstrong or is that Mike Wright? Because I'm going to be so fit and I'm going to have so many fab dollars. I'm telling you, we are inventing a product on the air right now. This is the Pokemon Go of fantasy football. Everything you do in real life is directly correlative. How about we make, before you get a trade, you have to go to an actual, um,
Like a Pokemon Gym. You know what I mean? We'll have buildings that are for trades only. I like where this is going. I like where your head's at. All right, all right. Back to back running back question from Iman Cavanaugh in Oak Park, Illinois. Would you endorse going back to back RBs in the first two rounds if they are both tier one players? And this is a standard league. Yes. Keel! Yeah, absolutely. You're going to hear me. Please do that. You're going to hear me break down the numbers in tomorrow's tips and tricks about...
people being afraid of running backs in the first round. And you shouldn't be, as much as you are. Yes. So we'll get into that tomorrow, though. That's a good point. All right, let's go to B. Jam. B. Jam has a voicemail question for you. Bejam? Yeah, B. Jam. Here you go. Hey, guys, this is V Jam in St. Paul, Minnesota. I had, I'm in a 10-team, four-keeper league, half-point PPR. I had my four-keeper set. I was keeping Jonathan Stewart and 6, John Brown, and the 8th.
Jeremy Langford in the 10th, Kelvin Benjamin in the 14th. That is not a waiver pickup. Those are our first draft last year as Snagamon in the 14th. However, I recently just traded for Mike Evans in the 4th. So I have for sure I'm going to keep Mike Evans in the 4th, Kelvin in the 14th. Between the other three, what two would you keep? I do have the second pick in the first round, and I know Jamal tried. All right, so he cut off there, but we got the gist of the question. I thought you were being extremely rude.
I did not cut him off. I believe you did. Well, I did not. So Jonathan Stewart for a six, John Brown for an eight, or Jeremy Langford for a 10, and he needs two of them, right? Yes. He said which two of those three. So I think that's a good question. Yeah. That's why I kept it in there despite the fact he hung up on me very rudely. Allegedly. Allegedly. For me, Jonathan Stewart in the six is an incredible value. I love him in the fourth, so I'm going to love him in the six. At this point, you're looking at...
Johnny Brown, Smoke. Or Langford. And I, you know, to be honest, I'm going to go with Langford. You've already got Evans and Kelvin wrapped up. That's my personal opinion. Yeah. I know it's not fun, Mike, to draft Jeremy Langford. Nobody likes it. Jeremy Langford and Matt Jones. But he's just there. He's out there. I know. That's the problem. He plays football for a franchise in the NFL at the running back position. So do a lot of guys. So do a lot of guys. Alfred Blue. Yeah. I'm going to.
