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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Debate of the Week, #FootClan Questions, News

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How do you feel about Randall Cobb briefly? Randall Cobb is, he's one of those kind of mysterious guys to me where I feel like he's not a wide receiver one, and I mean that for fantasy purposes, which we've seen him finish as that. I think that Jordy makes everything different for that situation of opening things up so Randall Cobb can really succeed in his niche.

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of football, which is that underneath. So I feel like I've been too low on him. A listener said, hey, why is Randall Koppelow? And I went, I took a look and I agreed. I said, you know what? He's too low. So I bumped him back up to that kind of low end wide receiver 2 range where I feel, I feel very comfortable with him in that area. Okay. Steve Smith, off the pup. What do you think about that? You getting surprised?

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No, I'm not surprised he's off of the pup, but a double rupture to kill. He's, I'll believe it when I see it. And I know that I'm kind of against that mindset of because if you see it, it's too late. But I'm just, I'm not buying in. Past his physical, he will practice soon, they said.

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So very curious to see what happens there with the wide receivers in Baltimore. Pete Carroll said Wednesday the Seahawks, quote, don't know whether Jimmy Graham will be ready for week one. I do. You say he will not. I say he will not. Coach Jay Gruden in Washington says Josh Doxon with the Achilles injury is progressing. Progressing? Honestly, I thought the word was processing for a minute. Progressing nicely. Look, Josh Doxon to me is not really a redraft type of guy.

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especially right now. Maybe, you know, he becomes that second half season guy for your team, but right now... It really hurts to miss time right now. I'm not even drafting him. Keith Marshall... Uh-oh. We talked about Matt Jones on the show. I saw this news a few minutes after we discussed. It decided not to pull it back out. Wanted to bring it up today. Keith Marshall, seventh rounder, some people think threaten, you know, the guy to threaten Matt Jones. He's running with the fours. That's not...

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That's not good. And what I've read is that what you saw in the preseason game extended to the practice field where he was a very impatient runner. They were very unhappy with him. And, you know, right now you've got Rob Kelly, who's an undrafted free agent running back, cutting into the reps for Keith Marshall, which ring the bell for Matt Jones. If guys behind you are shuffling around, I'm not worried about your work. Now, you could lose it. You can go, you know, fumble the football and run terribly.

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But it makes me more confident in Matt Jones. And look, I'm going to buy into the value where he's at right now and roll him out there as my, I guess as my two if I want to spin those first four picks somewhere else or as my three flex running back with upside. For Matt Jones, the concern of him losing that full-time job is exactly why I just can't fully buy in to him. He was very inefficient, had a huge fumbling problem.

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Last year. So, no, he did. Look at his fumbles. No, I know. But you bind to Abdullah. Well, I'm buying to Abdullah as a seventh round draft pick, not a fourth round draft pick. Is that where Jones is going? I thought he was a fifth. I will double check that right now. Yeah, I don't. As a fourth, I started to get really scared about that. But I feel like all the other options around him are better. And we talked about that yesterday. I think there was only one guy you mentioned in the fifth round that I liked more than Matt Jones. Or less than Matt Jones. Middle of the fifth right now. Who's around him?

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right in front of him Langford, John Stu, and then right behind him would be Matthews and Gordon. I would take all of those names that you said other than Langford ahead of Matt Jones. I would take Matt Jones ahead of Langford, but I would rather have Jonathan Stewart than Matt Jones. I'd rather have Ryan Matthews and Matt Jones, and I'd rather have Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon, who I'm very high on, I'm the only one in the world. No, there's some Gordon truthers out there. They believe. Still believe.

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I feel like everybody says, here's how everybody talks about Melvin Gordon. They say, draft any woodhead at the value. And then they say, maybe Melvin Gordon. Maybe you draft him. I don't know. Why do they have the prepubescent squeaky voice? I don't know about it. I don't know about Melvin Gordon. All right. Let's move on here. We're on to Bleacher report. Oh, yeah. Look, I put this in here only for Jason's sake. And he's not even here.

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Mike Freeman from Bleacher Report simply hyperboises this, but delightful for Lamar Miller owners. He said he's heard from scouts around the league that Lamar Miller, quote, might have a season for the ages. Everything is in line for Lamar Miller. I believe what Jason has said. I truly believe Lamar Miller is bus proof this year. It doesn't mean he's the top five running back, but he's bus proof.

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I really believe that. And that's, to be bus proof, that's strong. You talk about losing Levi-on-Bel from your list of potential guys. I think the bus-proof running backs right now are Adrian Peterson, Lamar Miller. Okay. And I want to say Todd Gurley. I think Todd Gurley's bus-proof. But those are the only three I would put in that category. Is there anybody else that enters out for you? I mean, I'm...

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I'm extremely confident in David Johnson, but even I will say, sure, there's a 5 to 10% chance of a bust. And when we say bust, we're not talking about, oh, he tore his Achilles or his ACL and he's out. Everybody can bust in. Nobody's bus proof against that. There is nobody in town behind Lamar Miller. And Bill O'Brien, since taken over for the Texans, has it been at least in the top five for rushing attempts.

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And Lamar Miller proved that he's also a great pass catcher. So I agree that Miller is among the short list of bus proof guys. That he will be at worst, Lamar Miller will be a running back too. If everything goes terrible. No, I agree. And he has the potential to be in the top three. The workload, my goodness. And he catches the ball well. Yeah, he's very talented.

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All right, we've got Malcolm Mitchell News. Right now ESPN is reporting he may be the leading candidate for the ex-receiver job. Very interesting. Got to pay attention to that. He looked fantastic. Malcolm Mitchell. That's hard to do in the New England offense. That's the hardest part for receivers going to New England is trying to pick up all the plays, all the timing. Look, Malcolm Mitchell, very bright.

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uh i'm a young man it's it's weird to be like hey you're a bright young man um it's weird yes but it's accurate i don't feel like i don't feel like i don't feel like i'm to the age of being calling people a young man well i what are you about 12 13 years older than malcolm mitchell why don't why you got to do that but last year we were excited for brandon lafell just because of the offense

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uh malcolm mitchell is a favorite of matt harmon's reception you got to pay attention if malcolm mitchell is actually healthy quickly from the the elbow dislocation you need to pay attention to him late in drafts hey josh brown's personal conduct policy kicker going to miss game one don't draft josh brown a kicker yeah don't draft personal conduct policy that's right you kick a man no no i think he's got some other issues okay we won't go in here um

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Cameron Brate news, always good right now. We're going to talk tight ends on Monday. We're going to have John Paulson on, talk tight ends. Yes. And I want to know what he thinks about Cameron Brate. Yeah, and why this is interesting news. The quote is that it's pretty clear. Cameron Brate is one of his favorite targets. James Winston has a history going all the way back through his college days that he loved to target the tight end. So if Cameron Brate becomes the guy,

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He's going to see a large share of targets that could, maybe he sneaks into that back end, tight end one position, a guy that you can get for free. Yeah. Well, I mean, we like Winston. Yeah. We like the offense. We like everything about it, including Doug Martin, right, Mike? Look, I don't dislike Doug Martin. No, you personally dislike him. What are you if you disparaged someone because of their height? You're a heightest? I don't, is he short?

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Is he short? Is Doug Martin short? The Russell hamsters? He's a small guy? Oh, my gosh. All right. Let's go. Chiefs. Matt Derek says Jamal Charles has gotten more work in than expected since coming off the pup. Good news. Great update. And the 49ers. Still believe, Andy. Coach Chip Kelly says the team expects.

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Colin Kaepernick to play in the third preseason game. The best part of this blurb is they expect Colin Kaepernick, and then in parentheses, dead arm. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to tell you right now, I'll make my final determination after preseason game three. Because Chip Kelly will probably already announce it by then, so that'll make it easy for me. All right, we're going to get into the mailbag, answer some listener questions.

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look, if you have questions, if you want to walk with us through this season and enjoy your league, we're totally focused on kind of improving everything about your league. Have more fun with the league that you have. Do things better as a commissioner as a player in your league. The tips and tricks episode tomorrow you need to tune into because we're going to talk a lot about not just strategies, but how to make your league better. If you want to walk with us in this journey along with about 1,500 other

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foot clan members check out join the foot dot com we we release an extra episode only answering questions from the foot clan every week on thursday we record that one this afternoon actually so if you get involved you can you can check out that episode and uh and be a part of supporting this show as an independent podcast so let's go ahead and get into the mailbag mailbag i'll give pitch a 10 as always and i will give volume

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Um, oh, six. I was, I wanted it to be a little more, uh, Michael Bolton. No, not Michael, Kenny G. That's what was. Oh, okay. Michael, Michael Bolton would have torn this microphone in half. Is Kenny G sing? No, he's a sex phone, but it's always light and feathery and. Oh, okay. All right. Delightful. Um, I feel like I should start, like, humming some Kenny G. But I won't. All right. Grady in Massachusetts, I'm able to keep, uh,

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Basically, you keep up to two players in his keeper league. It's a 14-team league, and he has the second pick in the draft. So help him decide here. Julio Jones, Eddie Lacey, and Keenan Allen. He knows he's keeping Julio. So should he use a keeper spot on Lacey or Allen? Because basically, I guess you're giving up those. You give up, he would give up a second pick if he kept a second player. I probably do not.

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uh i'm i wish i knew if this was ppr because if it was then keener down would be a stone cold lock of the week of the century uh i'm i'm probably going to keep one of these guys knowing that teams out there are likely to keep two players i'm not sure i can get a player of the caliber like lacy or alan and how high i am on allan i would keep him

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All right, Steve in Farmington Hills, Missouri. No, Michigan. We got Michigan there, right? It's an abbreviation. It was quick. We are the worst. We are not good. I have the number three pick in a 12-team point per reception league. I plan to take Julio OBJ with my first pick. Excellent. So either one. What should I look for in rounds two and three? Tempted to take three.

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straight receivers to start is that a bad idea why is he tempted to do that tell me why do you think that is because it's ppr okay so ppr wide receivers just score more points is that it is that the whole reason yeah it's just like well why why why do players fantasy players get tempted to lock into that type of a strategy before before the draft

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Right. Is it just for simplicity's sake? Like, okay, we need why. This is just human nature. Look, we love to have a plan. I love a good plan. I know exactly what's going to happen. You know, I'm basically, okay, when this happens, I'm going to do this or I will do this. But you can't do that in a fantasy football draft. No matter how many mocks you have done, you cannot account for the human error that is going to take place in your draft because it will happen. Yeah, some idiot's going to draft C.J. Anderson.

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Exactly. And that is me. Right. Letting somebody else drop to you. Is that a bad idea? Not necessarily. No, if the right guys are falling to you, then it's just, then it's okay. And so I'm here to answer your question a little bit more. So the number one PPR running back last year, Devante Freeman with an absolutely unbelievable season. He scored 317 points. The receiver who had right around there.

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