Start/Sit Courage + Hungry For More, Andy vs Josh! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/20

One win away from your fantasy football championship week. And we have all your questions to help you get there. Make sure you subscribe and enjoy the show. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The fantasy footballers podcast. Wow, I just had a bomb dropped.

right before the show. But why not? I mean, that's, this is just, um, Andy versus Josh.com. That is now a website that I just learned exists. Did you, Ducers know anything about this? Well, I was here with Josh a little earlier today and he, you know, he couldn't help himself. He definitely had to tell me about it. So apparently, uh, good versus evil. He has set up a website. You can go vote on who you think will win. Oh, man. between me and Josh. It's really well done. It is well done. Oh, sweet mercy. Yeah, you just found it. I just, you can't click. Okay. You can't, you're supposed to vote and you can't click Andy wins. All right. Well, that's.

And then if you click Josh wins, it says, excellent choice, you beautiful genius. 100% of people agree Josh is too. Oh, man. This is pretty good. Yeah. It's well done. Oh, man. I've been clicking Andy Wins so many times and I can't do it. It won't let me. You almost got it. All right. Well done, Josh. Your rosters are up there? Yeah, although mine is going to be a little different than that. Okay. I'm saving some. surprises but uh we've got we've got a good show for you today we got hungry for more NFL news the Thursday night preview Josh has been he's working hard to turn the time in our matchup via like you know printouts which considering he's never worked hard at any day in his life thank you I don't know what's going on say it's a really weird feeling to see him putting effort into things

So how many people in this company did I pay to make this website to troll me? At least two. Because I know Josh can't build this. No, Josh did not. There's no way he can build this. This is a well done site. Well, I know the tilt is beginning. The decision, I mean, we have our manager who famously lost four title games that he was in. Famously. Famously. To us. Famously. No, no, no. I'm talking about he had four leagues. He was in the title game in all four leagues. and he lost all four a few years ago. And he is in the playoffs with four teams. And it's like he doesn't want to be there. Yeah. He's amazing because he knows the torture. He's tilting off the face of this earth. Imagine how free you are today. Oh, man. Oh, I want to tilt. But I can't. I can't tilt. Now listen, Jason's all business up top, but I want the people on YouTube to understand what's down below, the party down below. You've got some really colorful, really colorful shorts on today.

Are those pickleball shorts? Yeah, I'm ready to go do some exercise. Straight into pickleball. Sorry, everybody. It's rainy outside, so I've got to be in shorts and a t-shirt. That's what I was going to mention is. It has been pouring rain. It's raining. And Jason's in shorts and a t-shirt. I'm in rain weather, my man. You can follow the show at the F.F ballers. We've got a hungry for more segment momentarily. A couple of things at the top. New Dynasty podcast released today. a prospect preview for 2024 and some Dynasty Christmas wishes. And I have not heard this episode, it just released. I can almost bet that one of the Dynasty Christmas wishes is the removal of Arthur Smith from the earth. Or maybe just from the team. I will not confirm nor deny. Yeah. Yeah. So, but yeah. But yeah. Yeah.

And one other reminder, Footclan giveaway.com. We're giving away a sign Travis ETN jersey, and that is free to enter over there. So you can check that out. Shout out to the Foot Clan, by the way. Everybody's supporting the show at Jointhefoot.com. We appreciate you. You get that bonus episode every week. When we go down from five episodes a week to two a week after the NFL season or after the fantasy season, you can catch an extra episode over there at Jointhefoot.com. Let's jump in. Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eads. All right, we've had them flashes. We've had them nibbles. We've had those teasing performances. Who is your Hungry for More candidate for this week? What are you rooting for, Mike? I'm going to jump in here because I was so happy to see it. I'm sure many others, if you were able to get through with Ken Bone Walker the third. Don't shake your head. That's good stuff.

Ken Bone Walker the third. This was great. He looked amazing. Yeah, we had 22 opportunities over 100 total yards, a touchdown, the running back eight. And he's, it's, it was his show. It's been a very, it's been a very strange season for, for Walker of the drafting of Charbonnet definitely, you know, brought his draft stock down of what is, what's the true ceiling for, for Ken Walker. And then all of that was looked like that was just absolute hogwash. And it was a huge miss by if you had faded Ken Walker because Charbonnet was there. Walker was incredible to start. Then as he does, it kind of gets banged up. Charbonnet's starting to be like a 50% snap guy. It looks like the timeshare is actually happening. Walker looks atrocious just two weeks ago.

And then this was like, oh, we are back. This is a guy who is very healthy. He's ready to go for the stretch run. He gets to play against Tennessee, which Tennessee's run defense has really fallen apart, 95 plus rushing yards and three of four games, giving up top 12 performances to Singletary, Mostert, Chuba Hubbard. And I mean, the force miss tackles are elite at this point for Ken Walker, what he's putting out there on the field. So I am. I am very hungry for a playoff run here with KBW. Yeah, he looked outstanding. I mean, we were all worried. Like, is he healthy enough? I was super worried. And he just, he played great. And I assume everybody here got to see Peach Cobbler. Oh, yeah. Pete Carroll's, uh, hyped up speech. That man, he was getting accurate. I mean, for a 72 year old, he was.

If I was that youthful at 72, I'd be a lucky man. If I was that youthful at 41, I would be a lucky man. Yeah, it's crazy. And Mike, I feel like for your dynasty team with Ken Walker, it's like you found potentially a playoff star at the bottom of your bench. I mean, this was not a player you were really excited about for the playoffs. You made it through. And now, you know, you can have a little confidence that this team is willing to ride that out. I mean, we should get Gino Smith back. So, you know, The offense should have both facets, at least more consistently. But yeah, I like that. Hungry for more Kenneth Walker. And the time is right. He is the potentially inverse Echler of the season. Sure. I'm going to go with Ty Chandler. This was almost mine. Yeah, I mean, this was the first 100-yard rushing game by a Viking in more than a year. And it's the first one, Ty Chandler, got to start.

So he had a huge week, 23 for 132 in a touchdown, four targets, 81% of snaps. Kevin O'Connell came out and said the role, you know, he has ascending to us something we had in our minds when we brought him here. We'll continue to do everything to get him valuable touches, make them a big part of the offense. They're fighting for the playoffs. And, you know, zero touchdowns in 11 gold to go carries for Alexander Madison over the course of the entire year. Ty Chandler got two gold to go carries, two touchdowns. Detroit, Green Bay, both at home coming up. I think Ty Chandler, we don't know the status of Madison for this week. Correct. But I do trust Ty Chandler again this week. Yeah. You say either way, like I think that if Madison does actually play, I like that dynasty team that I have, I have Madison and Chandler. If they both play, I'm going to play at this point, I will play Ty Chandler over Alexander Madison. It's not just the snaps, the 81% of snaps.

That's glorious. But listen to this. 96% of the running back attempts, 100% of the running back targets. That is a workload that very, very few running backs ever see. And the guy has juice. He has home run ability. He's getting all that work. I don't care who he's going to play against. If you're giving me those opportunities with the athletic upside, his. He looks like a great play. That's the key to me. Andy, you constantly said during the draft season, what did you always say about Alexander Madison? I mean, there's lots of different words I used to describe his plotting, kind of unexciting, barely yard gaining style. Yeah, I mean, it was just like your thing was he's got opportunity.

It looks like he could be a good draft pick because he's the guy in the absence of Dalvin Cook. Your problem with him was always just not that good. And Ty Chandler looks like he's got juice behind him. You watch both those guys get a handoff. Yeah. Oh, I know who's got the chance to make something special happen here easier. That would be Ty Chandler. So I like that one. My hungry for more player this week is a guy who's been eaten the last two weeks. Hunter. Henry. All right. Now, we had a Hunter Henry in the Scotty Fish playoffs, and in that league, you get rewarded, it's a tight end premium, and you get rewarded for first downs. And Hunter Henry is who Bailey Zappy is looking for when they need to move the sticks, because he was a first down machine. In week 15,

He had nine targets against Kansas City with seven for 66 with a touchdown. Now, he left that fourth quarter with a knee injury at the end, or that was what it was feared to be. It appears that it is just a left thigh contusion. He says he's okay, but he's been hot. And he's been hot with Bailey Zap. Like, just zap, zap, zap. He's throwing the ball to Hunter Henry. He's looking for him. He had obviously two touchdowns. Two weeks ago, a touchdown this last week, and now you've got the literal best matchup in schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to the tight-in position against Denver. You watched Sam Laporta throw a hat trick on him last week with the three tutties. Hunter Henry looks with Bailey Zappy to be set up for success. You don't know if Juju Smith-Schuster's going to be out there. I don't think he's back this week, so I'm hungry for more.

I think a good playoff player to plug in your lineup. And he's really had kind of an ugly sandwich because he started the season, you know, with two top three performances. And then he's kind of lulled. And now he's back with the last two weeks, two top three performances. Delicious bread, though. Yes. Yes. The bread is it's full of sugar. Oh, he's your favorite part of the sandwich. Bread is my favorite part of the sandwich. I don't know that that's true. I love meat. Favorite part of a Danish is what you used to say. Yeah. You ever made a Danish sandwich? Some cheese Danish with some meat between it. Hey. Danish. Can't stop me from a good time. Filet Danish. Ooh. Would you go chicken? Would you go roast beef, pastrami? If you were really trying to pull it off? Yeah. I do. It's a honey-baked ham. You got to have some sweetness in the middle. Jason knows it on. You both were immediately ham. Yeah. Because it's the right answer. Yeah. What are you going to put turkey?

What an idiot? No. What's that a turkey Danish sandwich? Do you even know what you're doing? I'll take that. Yeah, I'm going to eat that. Save you from it. That was hungry for more presented by Uber Eats. Get almost almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. A cornerback. Nope. Babyback ribs. Yeah. Order now on the app. Product availability may vary by Regency. See the app for details. You probably won't find a Danish sandwich on there. News and Notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance. Can I just share a really brief secret with just the two of you guys, no one else? All right. Yeah, if you whisper. I can't lose to Josh. I agree. I really need to beat him. Yeah. I don't want to have to fire somebody for cause. I just can't lose to my brother-in-law. Yeah, and man. You think he's going to beat me? I think he's got...

You on the matchups this week. That stack you built for him against Arizona. But this is the way it's supposed to work. He's set up for the stack. Yes. That I built for the stack. And then he should. And he's set up for success. Go Cardinals. He's supposed to beat you in this matchup. And that's where the story of his evil comes back and the comeuppance is paid and the good guy wins. And for the first time. There's a good guy always wins, right? Yeah. I mean, the first time in my fantasy football life, which is, you know, whatever, 20 years. You're the good guy, Andy. Hmm. You're the good guy. You're the one I'm rooting for. How does that feel? Feels good. Yeah. Feels different. Feels real strange. I'm like all on Team Andy here. All right.

Texans quarterback C.J. Stroud likely to miss week 16 against the Browns. That's a bummer. That certainly affects a lot of players. I did leave a note for Josh because of this news. You know the Captain America before and after? Yes. That was Nico Collins with and without C.J. Stroud. And I did leave that on his desk. It's a huge, huge impact on, I think, obviously the confidence you'd have in like a Noah Brown start or a Nico start. Also the Brown's defense. You and I have different opinions on whether Flacco is still viable, though. Well, I don't think he's not viable. I believe what you were saying, where they're struggling to run the ball. I think Flacco throws the ball 40 times. You know, that's fine. But I think the upside of a shootout is taken away. And that was the hope when you look at the Houston matchup is that all of a sudden, C.J. Stroud's going to go out there and put up 35 points.

and he's going to score quickly, and then Cleveland's going to have the ball, you know, that kind of game that you want to get into, but that won't happen. So maybe the shootouts off the table. Talk to me about like a player that's coming off a huge opportunity week in Devon Singletary with Case Keenom. Obviously the game plan was you're not going to put as much on Case Keenost played as you would, C.J. Strouds, the weapons in the passing game weren't necessarily available. Devin Singletary is going to be going up against the defensive front in Cleveland. It's a problem. So.

We've seen Singletary when he's had huge snap opportunities against like Tampa, for example, struggled immensely. I'm pretty fearful about just chasing the 21 from last week and expecting it to replicate here against the Cleveland defense. I'm curious what you two think. Yeah, well, I don't think he's going to have as much successes last week, but Tennessee has a pretty solid run defense, and that's who he faced last week. I think they're getting it together. And if you just look at his efficiency, sweet mercy he's he's been really really good 4.7 a carry 5 a carry 4.5 a carry 4.5 a carry 5.1 5 like he's been very very efficient um i will say that it's been a while since they've faced a front as good as cleveland that stretch run Cincinnati Arizona Jacksonville Denver the jets Jacksonville's got a good run defense the others are

Tennessee had a good run defense. Yeah, they've been giving it up a little bit more on the ground. So it'll be a test. But I think you can be confident in the volume, right? What about Henry? Derek Henry versus Devon Singletary. Oh, gosh. Henry off of a bad week. Yeah, I mean, I would definitely play Henry over Singletary. Okay. Henry's week was. They're underdogs? Absolutely horrific and terrible. But, I mean, if you've watched Derek Henry for a long enough time, It works out. Yeah, it just, it works out. And he, he plays like that. He gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage so much. And he always does. He just never had the good runs last week. We just, he's had a few of those this year. Also don't know that quarterback situation. Right. What about Bijon? Bajon or Singletary. Bijon is a phenomenal story. I would play Bijon. Phenomenal, huh?

He is. He is absolutely a phenomenal start this week. Bijon is, I know that he, I mean, he's coming off of negative. Point one. Yeah, his worst game is of his short career, but there's, if you got through it and you've got Bijon in the playoffs, there is extreme, I have extreme confidence. Mike, do you have extreme confidence in Bajon? No, you can never, I can never have extreme confidence in Arthur, but I would play. Bijon over Singletary. The other part of the equation is he did only gain 11 yards on seven opportunities and he fumbled. Yeah. So there is some accountability for Bijon himself. Keenan Allen did not practice on Tuesday. He was working on the side with trainers. Today's a big day for any possible hope of him starting on Saturday. Jamar Chase could miss the next two weeks. Cool. Also known as the rest of your fantasy season. Yeah. Gino Smith will practice and play this week against the Titans.

Gino Smith returning, and that's from Pete Carroll. Doug Peterson said Trevor Lawrence remains in the concussion protocol, Zay Jones week to week. I think they're still optimistic about Trevor Lawrence playing. Yeah, it seems like he's progressing through it, which is what you want to see. If he's progressing through it, you've got a shot to play that week. Zach Wilson seems unlikely to play in Week 16 against the commanders due to the concussion, so you'll probably see some sad performance from Trevor Simeon. Trevor in there. The Colts officially signed Tyler Goodson to the active roster that he stepped in at running back last week along with Tray Sermon. Zach Moss with the shoulder. I mean, you have two banged up guys at the top of the depth chart is what the situation is. Yeah, just moving him up. Jack Moss's shoulder, Jonathan Taylor's thumb. I mean, here's your possibilities for the week. You could have Jonathan Taylor back with no Zach Moss. You could have.

Zach Moss back with no Jonathan Taylor. And you could have both of them playing with injuries. You could have neither of them playing. Trace Sermon. Or you could have neither of them playing, and it turns out it's Tyler Goodson that you want. Like, this is a wild week for that running back room. Yeah, that's crazy. So we'll monitor that. I know a lot of people want Jonathan Taylor back as fast as possible. And then Falcons owner Arthur Blank said the team is going to let the season play out and go from there on whether Arthur Smith returns. Just lose, baby. Just lose those games, Arthur. Could you imagine? Let's just throw this out. Arthur Smith has let go at the end of this year. And they hire an offensive guy who's, you know, they go in.

whoever is the new hotness they uh you know they get uh what is it ben jonson from detroit yeah from detroit and bring them in how excited would you be about the prospects of pretty excited of the weapons they have not excited till they had a quarterback that's fair that is not excited till they have somebody that you that you're not pivoting between taylor hiding key for i mean how excited were you for the options in washington when they brought in eric b enemy this off season I think the excitement was through the roof. Yeah. I mean, Jehan Dodson and Terry McLaurin. That's fair. And they did not produce. What if it's Justin Fields? Yeah, you'd be excited. Okay. Kyler Murray. I mean, I think the offense that I'm most excited about this offseason getting a quarterback has Minnesota without question. I think Minnesota would, you know, the implications for Jefferson, Addison, Hawkinson, all the sons.

And the potential for that defense on that team, that's the one where it's like if Kyler lands there. It could still be Kirk. I don't think so. No? Really? I don't think so. I mean, yes, it could still be. I'm not denying the possibilities, but I'm just, I think that they're going to try to find a future there. With two young wide receivers like that, Kirk Cousins, a one-year deal, I mean, maybe. But I think that's the home for someone like Kyler. And you would be so excited about that. That was today's news and notice presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Quick break. Back with the TNF preview. All right. Somehow, some way. Simi final week is getting ready to go. Getting ready to start. Let's talk about Thursday. Thursday night breakdown. The Norland Saints at 7 and 7. Take on these 7 and 7 Los Angeles Rams. So many 7s. Draft King Sportsbook Line.

Rams minus four at home. The over under is 45 and a half. It's been bed up. You like to see it. It's now the fourth highest overrunner of the week. I like that. Derek Carr. Matthew Stafford. I thought you're going to go. Derek Carr. Don't like that. Well, he should have Chris Olave back expected to play. We didn't mention that in the news, but we should have. Chris Olavae expected to return. That's good for the offense. Rashid Shaheed. When you look at the weapons being healthy, I don't think we've seen this in a long time. Olave and Shaheed and Camara, Ante some Hill healthy, Juan Johnson back. I think it's going to be a pretty good game. I really do. Derek Carr had a three touchdown performance last week. This is his best fantasy game of the season. Alvin Camara has not had a fantasy week under nine fantasy points. It's been a double-digit machine. And the thing is, is the Rams defense, when you look at, like we have a streamfinder tool.

that's part of the Foot Clan premium tools. It's my favorite tool to use in terms of finding matchups because you can limit it to the last three weeks, looking at the defensive performances, last five, last eight. The Rams have been absolutely dominant against the running game. So it's good that Alvin Kamara is a receiver. That's part of the equation there. So, you know, from a start-sit decision, both teams fighting for the playoffs, both teams at 500, you know, Taysom Hill last week, very disappointing. That would be a hesitation for me, but the main core offensive pieces for the Saints in Camara and Oliva, I think you're putting right back out there. Yeah, I think you're going to play most of the big names here, and you're just excited and hopeful that it can become a shootout with the way that Derek Carr and Stafford are playing. Like I think these are two good defenses, right? And you could see like a hard fought, difficult.

sadly lower scoring game because of the defenses that are stepping up. But I think on prime time, these two quarterbacks, they're playing well enough. Stafford's been playing very, very good. I think the Rams are looking like a, you know, a playoff bound team to me. And so if these two quarterbacks get going, you could have this hit the over and have a really good game. But you're going to start Cooper Cup. You're going to start Puka. That's my surprise bust of the week. Who? I'm worried about Puka because the Saints on the year, number one against White House, number four in schedule adjusted. And because you've had two of four performances from Puka that were underwhelming, I guess I'm a little worried that there becomes a Cooper Cup like dependency going on. Like he was banged up. I'm not saying you don't start Puka, but that is my one. Like if someone busted in this game, that is my worry. Yeah, it's certainly with how the Saints.

defense has not been giving up fantasy points to the wide receiver. It scares you to say, well, both Puka and Cooper Cup are going to have great games. It might not be enough to go around. That being said, I just can't imagine being able to bench either guy. Last week, Puka was a little bit disappointing, but he still had eight targets, 50 yards, was targeted in the red zone. The nice thing is that they do look his direction. They look for both these guys in the red zone. Whoever doesn't get a touchdown, I think maybe you'll be a little bit disappointed with. I mean, Cooper Cup last week was, you know, 8 for 111 and a touchdown. That's fantastic. But it was a 62-yard touchdown. So, I mean, like, overall, they would, it was just one, the one big play happened to go to Cooper Cup. If the one big play goes to Puka, which is possible. We'll be back as well. And, you know, the matchup for Higby is great. You saw him get utilized with five targets again last week.

That's the area the Saints give up a lot of fantasy points. You'd start Higbee over Taysam Hill? Oh, man. I would. Yeah, I would. The Tasem Hill, I don't know if last week, you know, you're coming back from injury. He was banged up. It's as low as snap since week one. Yeah, I mean, he, after missing, he had 13 rushing attempts in week 13. Right. Then he got hurt, and then he had one last week. So things are kind of just up in the air. I don't know. I think that one's tough. I think if I had a surprise good performance, it would be Higby for the week. So I think I would go Higby. And what about us? You guys have lots of thoughts about it. No, it's just, I'm trying to process you actually supporting Tyler Higby. It's very, very strange. It's off brand for you, Andy. I mean, I don't have to do it. No, well, you already did. I'm just, I'm taking it back. Obviously, DeMarx Robinson is.