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Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 11 Matchups, In-or-Out, Three-Headed Worm

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Thank you for listening. Thank you for tuning in. This is the Fantasy Footballers podcast, Andy Mike and Jason, Judge Giamatti, behind the scenes, keeping us on track. Keeps it clean. You doing good there, Judge? Yes. It's not possible to keep you guys on track, though. No. What? Mike and I are here. Are you sure about that? Oh! We're coming out the gates with that? Ah, you know.

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It was so popular two shows ago. I had so many ringtone requests. If you were on YouTube, the dance moves were, I think I got compared to Chandler Bing from Friends. Accurate. Accurate. Accurate. Not a compliment. Well, I've always known. This is a compliment. I've always known kind of the, our family. We, I think I've said this on the show long ago. We dance like very tall birds. At least you didn't get like Elaine.

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Oh, yeah, the kick, the kick finger dance? That's good stuff. Let's talk about Thursday night football. Let's talk about what we saw from this high, powered, incredible Pittsburgh offense that we've been waiting to see. We saw it last night, three touchdowns for AB. Hope you didn't trade him. Yeah, including a helmet catch. I mean, it was what's so, what was so strange about this game.

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40 points for the Steelers. I didn't even think that Big Ben was playing particularly well. Just watching the game, I know his numbers, you know, 30 for 45, that's solid, 66% of almost 300 yards and four touchdowns. So he had a fantastic game, but just the feeling out what the Steelers were doing on offense and the complete lack of ground game, only 12 carries.

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For Levy on Bell. I think there was two defining factors that made that game seem that way to you. Number one was the play where Lev Bell got in on the touchdown, then they reversed it, and he got this little dump. Like that's one of those goal line play action, extra touchdowns. And that was on the heels of what we saw from Mario, which was four turnovers in this game. A couple big ones, short fields for Big Ben. You're right about Lev Bell. I mean, they chose. It was disappointing. Dick Lebo chose to stop that.

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piece of the equation, which is, look, it's what you got to do. You got to put it in the hands of Big Ben, who's looked really sluggish this year. Well, not only that, but if you look at how they came out, they were expecting the Dick Lobo blitzes, obviously, you know, being at home in Pittsburgh, they come out, they go no huddle, and during the no huddle, they look great, they drive down the field, they stop that, and for the rest of that first half, they're not moving the ball. Second half, they come back out and they go back.

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to it and they're able to move the ball. And this is a big reason why Big Ben at home versus Big Ben on the road makes a difference is because of communication. They're able to get to the line quicker, have Big Ben talk, have communication that he has with, you know, you saw him calling out plays at the line of scrimmage to Juju or same with Antonio Brown. And I think that, you know, this is what you'll see more of.

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but only at home because when they go on the road, they will have to focus more on Levy on Bell and the huddle. Lev Bell, obviously, you know, he had the touchdown called back. You're still happy with Antonio Brown in this game. And I want to, to the juju truthers out there, which I am one of, and Jason is definitely one of. I want you to not be alarmed by this not being an incredible performance because if you watch the game, I loved seeing where Ben was looking to juju, where he was in the read progression, had an end zone target.

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broken up, had a pass interference call on a play that could have been a big play, had a couple misconnections, but the target count was there. Caught another ball at like the two-yard line for a first down. Exactly. So I was actually really happy with utilization. It was an underwhelming performance, but you're going to get that from everybody. And so I would have been more concerned if I saw Martavis Bryant have a monster game last night. I'm not as concerned about juju, but obviously you're disappointed. And on the other side... Speaking of disappointment. If you're not a Richard Matthew's owner...

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That's where the list ends, right, on the Tennessee side? Yeah, yes, because it was Mario would actually still finish with an okay fantasy game despite four interceptions. I mean, like, not great, but I'm saying, despite having four picks, you're going, whew, I think I dodged a bullet here with Marcus Marioata last night. I doubt you're playing him with him on the road. Yeah, Pittsburgh on Thursday. Some people, you know, they're forced into a position where you got to play him.

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But DeMarco Murray, eight for ten on the ground. Now he kind of bailed fantasy owners out with the five receptions. So you have to feel like you dodged another bullet with that. But what, what, DeMarco Murray, what is happening here? I mean, you have Derek Henry who, he looked, Derek Henry looked better, looked a lot better in this game, seven for 32, including two, off the top of my head, two bigger runs.

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Here's the equation. If this team is in the position where, you know, we saw it last week, DeMarco Murray had the touchdowns that saved his fantasy week. If this team is down and they're throwing, you're never going to see Derek Henry. He's not going to be anywhere to be seen. You watched this game last night. It turned into a laffer. And it was first, you know, every third down is DeMarco Murray, even on drives where they give first and second down to Henry. Third down is still DeMarco Murray. And then on drives where they're coming back, they need the pass catching.

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ability of DeMarco Murray in there. They actually started out the game lining them up as a white out, throwing in the ball and then he dropped it. I think I have found my new favorite thing in the NFL because this is being brought up a lot. I feel like in broadcasts like, well, this team, this team isn't built to play from behind. They're only, you know, they're play, they're built to have the lead and then win. How about you build your team that you can play from both? Right.

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I mean, is that really that bold of an idea? We can only win if we're winning the whole time. We're going all in on only being able to win if we score first. That's a bad idea. I mean, that was kind of the lay of the land from last night. Moving forward, I'm still a much bigger to Marco Murray fan than I am Derek Henry. Agreed. I'm also a much bigger Cory Davis fan than I am Richard Matthews despite what I saw last night. It was...

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It was interesting. When we got to that play, which I kind of have a love-hate situation going on with the new camera. Right. From behind. So maybe it's just taking time to get used to it. But on that particular play, I believe it was Corey Davis. But I saw him running an in-rout in the middle. I'm like, Corey Davis is wide open. What are you doing? Throw the ball. But then, of course, Mariotta saw that the safety had, there was no high safety.

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Richard Matthews got hit for the deep touchdown. Last question here about Thursday night. Skycam nearly the whole time. Do you like SkyCam? That's what I'm saying. It's the love hates. I think once they perfect it, once they're like, because I mean, these camera people are trying to get used to doing this as well where I don't want it zoomed in where the wide receivers are cut off. You can't see the outside wide outs. Yep. That's exactly my problem. But I love it.

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And I did see a few times where the camera went in, but then you saw it like, they realized, oh, I need to back up so we can get a full frame of view. It's. I really like watching it live, but I like when the replays, they show us kind of that above view. I didn't like the replays where they still were focused on that zoomed in view. To truly maximize it, they're going to have to be able to, I think, midplay be able to go.

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You're like, okay, we've gotten the lined up. We're seeing the play form. Now the decision is made. The ball is going somewhere. Change to that side camera. But that's really tough on a director and producer. It took like, you know, it takes 280 man hours each week to set up and run that thing for a game. Wow. Mistakes were made NFL. Yeah. You were living the dream. Did you guys know it was Friday? Oh, yeah. No. Put Clan Friday.

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Every Friday, we want to take a minute and thank all of our incredible supporters over at Jointhefoot.com. You guys will make this show exist. You're the backbone of everything we do. And every Friday, we like to give away a gift card, shopballers.com, to one of those supporters. And today's winner is Michael Henson. Oh, Michael Hanson. Come on down. Come on down. $40 gift card to shopballers.com. Thank you so much for your support.

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And we're going to keep doing what we do because we love it. And hopefully you love it as well. We're always listening and trying to make the show better. You can find us on Twitter at theFF ballers. The websites, the fantasy footballers.com. You can find our community at join the foot.com. And we always appreciate the iTunes reviews and your support over there wherever you're listening. All right. Let's go ahead and jump into the news. News and notes from around the league.

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Surprise, surprise. Shock, shock. That's what I was hearing. You were hearing that, yeah. Larry Fitzgerald, one year extension through 2018. I am shocked. This is, if I have to project now next year for the Arizona Cardinals, Dynasty League, things like that, it's Larry Palmer, David Johnson, Bruce Ariens. I think the entire crew is coming back for another year. I agree. That's what this. Why would Larry sign on to be a part of a?

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a Blaine Gabbard experiment or a rookie quarterback. This is, hey, this is a lost season. Right. And they may not even view it that way at 4 and 5, but this is a lost season. We're going to come back here with all the pieces that brought us success in the past. We're going to give it another go. I don't see any other reason Larry would come back. And he's playing at an all-pro level still. I mean, he's 1,200-yard pace, a monster with the ball in his hands. I think it's exciting if you're an Arizona fan to see Larry come back.

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but the rebuild's not going to happen for another year. And also with this comes like a, you know what's important, but also wink, wink, it's not important. Assuming health for Larry Fitzgerald, he will end up as the number two all time in receiving yards. Wow. Like he'll have enough time to get up there. I mean, he's not going to pass the goat. No. Jerry Rice because nobody will ever pass Jerry Rice. Never.

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But Larry Fitzgerald can make a strong stamp at number two. Yeah, Jerry Rice is the Nolan Ryan. No one's breaking Nolan Ryan's strikeout record. And Jerry Rice is going to be hard to break that. Stop talking baseball. Hey. Yeah, you could have gone with like Emmett Smith that no one's going to break his rushing record. Thank you, Mike. You're welcome. Someone, Mike. We're back on track. All right. Alex Collins is going to remain the featureback, even when Terence West and Danny Woodhead return.

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That is according to the offensive coordinator from the Baltimore Ravens. And I think it's the right play. That's what I've been expecting and calling for. What that does mean is that should those players return, it's probably worse news for Buck Allen than it is for Alex Collins. All right. We talked a little bit about the situation with Leonard Fournett. We're going to talk about injuries and whether we think they're going to be in and out right now. Kind of an interesting.

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