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Fantasy Draft Redo + TNF Preview, League Winners | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1820

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A League of Record-heavy episode turns trades and draft-redo picks into character comedy, including Jason's disbelief at his own accepted trade and a long defense of co-managers.

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And the Eagles are stable. Like, the other guys have... There's going to be some question marks on the team and the offense. The Eagles are going to be in it for the long run. So I will take Barkley. Yeah, I don't mind. It makes this pick, obviously, easy for me since last time I was up I was between Amon Ra and Josh Jacobs. I would... You know, Jacobs and Gibbs, I think that is really, really, really close. Jacobs and Barkley is close as well, but I... I have two other guys, two other running backs I would take before Jacobs. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously hot and bothered for Jacobs, which is why I went out and traded for him.

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And hopefully it comes to fruition, but I'll take Jacobs here. All right, Josh Jacobs goes with the eighth pick. So we've had three straight running backs, Gibbs, Barkley, Jacobs. I think there will be a fourth straight running back. I'm just trying to think through. The wide receivers... No, I actually will pivot. I will pivot. I obviously think Jefferson is worthy of the pick here, but I'm actually going to go Jackson Smith and Jigbo. Yeah, he's one spot higher for me. I'm going to take J.S. in. He is currently, I think, fifth in points per game at the wide receiver position.

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You know, Abuka is ahead of him. Adunze is ahead of him right now. But obviously you're not just looking at what they've done so far. Jefferson, I think, is going to get cooking as he always does. It was between those two at wide receiver for me, actually. So I will go with Jackson Smith and Jigbo and put some respect on the name of the player that has truly been dominant. Yeah, and I will follow it up with Justin Jefferson. Yeah. Who he has the variable. He has the J.J. McCarthy variable. Not that things go absolute to poo-poo town should McCarthy come back and be the starter.

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Week one, when everything was awful for the Minnesota Vikings, and McCarthy looked terrible. 44 and a score. Like I said, not the worst possible thing. But then with Carson Wentz these past two weeks, 126, 123 yards. His worst game this year was 3-for-81 with McCarthy, and that was still not that bad. And I believe that McCarthy, should he come back and get the job, will improve over the course of the season. Jefferson is just, he is that good. I was looking forward to drafting Jefferson here if you didn't. One of the reasons why that team is good and the head coach is good and the quarterbacks have success

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is because they target their best players relentlessly all the time strategically, unlike the Cardinals, who I think... I think they do target their best players. Marvin Harrison had 78 receiving yards on the first two drives of that game, and I think wasn't targeted on the final 30-something plays. It's just... Oh, and... Just so ridiculous. Public PSA here. Yes. For all the... Public PSA. For news outlets out there, when you're breaking something that says... And it comes through on my phone. So we got small... Oh, yeah. And it says, Jonathan Gannon being fined? It's too close to fired? It's way too close.

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I read the same thing. We had to use a different word because I was like, oh my gosh, he got fired! I was like, we did it. The Arizona Cardinals have fined Jonathan Gannon. You're like, oh, we took $100,000 from him. You need to remove all the money. Remove all the money. Get him out. That would be the firing. Yes. Well, it doesn't remove the money. He still gets it all. You know, what's interesting is that it wasn't the NFL. Right. I actually thought the fine was from the NFL. It was the Cardinals. Yeah. It's just interesting. They were like, ooh, I can save some money.

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Now, what if... Yeah, oh, that is not surprising. Yeah. He's like, why didn't you hit him twice? Now that you bring it up, the Bidwells being able to reclaim $100,000? Oh, man. Oh, they're so happy. They were so excited about that. All right. Jason, you're back on the clock at 11. Jefferson just went off the board. This one is interesting. This is my last pick of the first round here of the top 12 picks. I've been looking at the different running backs who I would take here. There are still some great players. James Cook has been on fire. Devon H.

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Chan has been very consistent, but his ceiling hasn't been there. At wide receiver, you got Nico. Egbuka. I don't know how high he'll go. Drake London has been involved. There's all these guys. But when push comes to shove, I was really thinking about this because I have this player. And I was like, would I trade him right now straight up for those names I just said? And I would not. And it's CeeDee Lamb. Okay. CeeDee Lamb, I'm going to miss a game. That sucks. You'll watch you miss two because they'll have a bye week. So much for getting past the bye.

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Well, everyone, most all players we're drafting still have a bye week. So I'm just missing an additional game this week. And that's presumed. He could still play this week. Every man buys. Every man. But yeah, when we look at what Dak has been doing and you look at league winners, guys who can really go ham and score 30 points. You know, the first two weeks, he was a top 12 wide receiver without touchdowns, over 110 yards both weeks, then gets injured. And so since that time, Dak's been great. Pickens has been great. I think CeeDee will be awesome. And thank goodness the Dallas Cowboys defense is as bad as it is.

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It is so nice. All right. Lamb was on the board. Probably not next for me. But I'll go with Devon Achan. I think Achan, I'm going to take over Cook. I think the baseline is better for him. The receiving work. We've only had one game without Tyreek Hale. He was very good in that one. He'll be very good for a long time. And he plays the wide receiver position. I mean, he really does. He went up and had a full wide receiver-esque. Meet him at the top. Catch it over two guys in the end zone. That pass, I saw a tweet, I apologize, I can't, I don't remember who had it, but it was such

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a great tweet. It said, don't let the incredible pass by Tua or the incredible catch by Achan distract you from the fact that on like a third and eight from the goal line, they drew up a running back fade in the back of the end zone, which was a really bad design. But the play was awesome. But it was like, really? That's the best you got? A fade to your tiny running back? Yeah. Yeah, they should, you know, yeah. Devon Achan, number 12, rounds out our first round. Taylor, Robinson, Nakua, CMC, Amonra, Gibbs, Barkley, Jacobs, JSN, Jefferson, Lamb, and Achan.

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Let's see how that compares to the ADP of how it was a while ago. You want to see? It's not bad. Jamar Chase was the 101. Obviously, he's gone. I thought you were going to give us where these guys went. We can look at that. B. John went next. Barkley, Gibbs. So those guys are about the same. Justin Jefferson, CD Lamb, Christian McCaffrey, Derek Henry. That's six straight that are in the same 12. So Derek Henry is a faller. Yeah. Amonra St. Brown is in there. Ashton Gentey. Yeah. So Gentey and Henry are fallers, neighbors, is injured, and Puka was the last one.

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It's funny because Gentey is not – I mean, he's getting drafted in this next round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not far off. The involvement in the receiving game now and the step up for him. Mike, you're back on the clock. First pick of the second round. It's James Cook. Yeah, it is. I would take both A. Chan and James Cook over Josh Jacobs personally. Sorry. Jacobs – I'm sorry. James Cook, obviously it's not perfect because he can still have some dud games, but he is – he looks so incredible. He did not take the bag and decide that he would just ride off into the sunset with all his money.

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He took it seriously. Yeah, I think James Cook was probably the next man up on my list as well. Last three picks, Lamb, A. Chan, James Cook. We'll take a break. We'll finish it out. Lowe's knows Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on cobalt power tools, pit boss grills, LG appliances, and more. Then, once your to-do list is done, get ready to kick back, relax, and enjoy the game. Shop in-store or online now and earn your Sunday with help from Lowe's, official partner of the NFL. Well, let's take a quick second to thank our sponsor, Jimmy John's,

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which is accidentally steal one of the other employees' sandwiches, and I ended up with the Sicilian pizza sandwich, layered with salami, capicola, and ham. And, of course, spread with deliciously melted mozzarella cheese on top of it as well. Oh, that's good. Jimmy John's is new pizza sandwiches available in two flavors, three-cheese pizza sandwich and Sicilian pizza sandwich. Have participating locations for a limited time while supplies last. Mr. Moore, Jason, you are on the clock. Man, every running back left, there's a lot of good running backs that all have big question marks for me. I don't know how high to take them,

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so I'm going to take the stud wide receivers that are left. It's worth noting, Trey McBride's still available. All the tight ends have not been taken yet, but I'm going to take Nico Collins here. He's still a stud. He's getting it done. He has been disappointing for sure, as the Texans' offense has been disappointing, but he is an awesome fantasy asset. If I was in the draft, the truth is I would take Emeka Abuka above Nico Collins. That was where I'm looking between Nico and Abuka and Drake London. Those three to me. Yeah, no, it's fair. And Nico has been, I think, a little bit quietly consistent

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because the offense had been struggling, but now it's two weeks in a row. They've been looking better. I will take Emeka Abuka at 15, which is, yeah, that's just a wild moment of reflection. I'm not saying it's wrong. That's wild. And just on a personal level, I think he's my favorite player in the game of football. He's so good. I love, like I said it yesterday, I love the Buccaneers so much. I love Baker. I love Abuka. I love Bucky. I love Evans. I love that team. I love Todd Bowles. He was an Arizona guy. We are going to, that is going to move into second place.

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Final ADP. Final ADP picks 84, 85, and 86 in the eighth round was rookie wide receiver, rookie wide receiver, Emeka Abuka, and Matthew Golden back-to-back after Travis Etienne. So these- 84, 85, 86 you're saying? Yeah. Eighth round pick, Emeka Abuka, is now a top 15 selection. We were looking in our listener league where you and I were four or five picks apart in the fifth or sixth round. I took Abuka. I was so angry when you took him because that was my mind. And then you ended up with Golden five picks later. And the feeling between those two right now.

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The gap is like one is a superstar. One's a second round pick and one's on the waiver wire. Yeah. So, Mike, you're back on the clock. Pick 16. Abuka's off the board. It gets a little harder now. It definitely gets a bit harder. So, I will... That running back four in points per game. When will he be drafted? Yeah. I know. I keep looking at his name and I'm like... Not yet. Is someone going to do it? Yeah. I'm going to... I don't have the snows to do that. So, I'll just take Kyron Williams, please. Kyron Williams. So, he's alluding to Javante Williams, he who should not be named.

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Uh-huh. But, it is... It's a conversation at some point. Yeah. It's funny because I think... But I think Derrick Henry on the board versus Javante, that'd be a really hard pick. It would. Derrick Henry, Brees Hall, Bucky Irving, who I know he's injured, but he was awesome. It's like, would you really take Javante Williams over those guys in a startup? Like, is the rug going to get pulled? I don't think it's going to. It doesn't feel like it, man. It really doesn't. I'm not taking any of them, though. But, we did just get real quick news. Tyrone Tracy, no injury designation.

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Good to go for Thursday. Cool. Okay. I will go back to the wide receiver position and take Drake London. I saw Nico Ibuka and Drake London kind of in that same tier. Interesting. You'll go... All right. You would... I mean, you're a Garrett Wilson guy. Is that who you're saying? That is who I am saying. That was a slow nod of approval by Mike. Yes. I'm glad you got the name right away. It was you. Yeah. I wouldn't have thought... I'm going to take Josh Allen. I'm taking Josh Allen at 18. The number one every year, practically, at the position is the number one again.

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I mean, Josh Allen... What he and Lamar, who's hurt... I mean, Lamar would have been in the discussion. At some point, a quarterback's going to go here. The differential to my team is significant with Josh Allen in the mid to late second round. And when you have that player on the team, they can win you the week. I mean, Josh Allen can win you a week anytime. He does it frequently. I think that's where the line is drawn. Because the next big names up there is Derrick Henry, who's been a little disappointing. Don't know what's wrong with Lamar Jackson. Ashton Gentey.

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Okay. Judd Kins. So a couple of rookies. Or the guaranteed commodity of Josh Allen. To me, that was the time. I think that the right place to take the known commodities at quarterback is when everyone else now has a big question mark. Yeah. And that's... We're right around there. Is Javante real? Is Derrick Henry falling off? You know, those type of questions. So yeah, I don't blame you taking a QB here. All right, Mike. You're next up here. We've got a handful of picks left. I think you got two more. We all got two more picks left. I would just make sure that this man gets the respect that I think he deserves.

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So I will take Garrett Wilson right here. It might not be pretty. No, no. You might not want to watch it. Fourth quarter magic with Justin Fields. Garrett Wilson's a great player. He just... He needs to be on when Fields has his like every other like terrible play, good play. We just need the good play to go to Garrett. Man, there is though... There's another wide receiver that I... There's a handful. That I almost took over Garrett. I just can't do it. Quentin Johnson? No. No, no, no. I know. Not that far. I think I know who you would be taking and it might be my pick here.

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All right. I'm just looking at... Would I really take him over these running backs? That is tough. No, I wouldn't. I think I'm going to end up going with some of these questionable running backs. And while I do think Derrick Henry is still good this season, I'm actually going to go Brees Hall. I think with the... That's fine by me. With the injury to Braylon Allen... Back-to-back Jets. Brees Hall has looked really good. I'm taking Justin Field. No, I'm not. Yeah, Brees is a strange name because it's a lot more exciting to take Gentry or Judkins or Henry. But Brees has been really effective and very good and involved in the passing game.

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I don't mind it. I think for me the pick is actually Quenchon Judkins. I am fine with that. I think I'm going to take Judkins here. Yes, Javante's out there. Bucky with the injury. I'd love to take Bucky there. I don't know how long he's going to really be out. Only four more picks. I mean, so many of these guys are not making it in the top 12. No, they will not. Judkins has been a top 12 running back in the three weeks he's played any snaps. The Judkins situation is... That's amazing. ...so insane. Of everything that happened... You thought maybe he didn't play in the NFL.

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Yeah. Of how the pick was perfect for the Cleveland Browns in terms of the player that they needed, the archetype. He was going late, going in the middle of redraft, which felt awesome. And then his whole off the field DA allegations. And it's like... And those are... They're gone now. And there's no more chatter at all about suspension. Yeah. I know. It's like... I haven't heard anything of the NFL coming and doing... The NFL does not let... Even what happened... Okay. It went away. The NFL doesn't let those things slide. Yeah. I mean, maybe that... I mean, to give... To be fair to the situation, you'd have to say that if things didn't happen or things

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got settled out... I mean, if you... Like you said, if the league doesn't let it slide and the league isn't addressing it, then maybe something different happened that we don't understand or know. And you just have to accept it. But it is a crazy change from where we were. Three picks left, Mike. Your final selection here. I'm going to do it. I'm taking Javante. Okay. Just let his points wash over you. The Dallas offense... Second round picks. Emeka, Abuka, Javante, Williams, baby. What are you going to do, man? What are you... This far in... I feel like you have to do it.

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I feel like you need to buy into what Javante's doing. Javante in the second round, and then this guy went in the second round. And you got to give credit to this rookie sensation, wide receiver out of Ohio State, Emeka Egbegbu. Egbegbu. Oh, man. I need the cut of just the name, too. Egbegbu. I need to be able to hit that anytime I want. Now, they all have earpieces in, right? What was the John Travolta when he was saying? Oh, no. Adele Dazeem. Yeah. Emeka Egbegbu. They all have the earpiece in, right? You, as a producer of that show... It's Abuka.

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