Players We're Afraid to Be Wrong About - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/2

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The Fantasy Footballers podcast, Wednesday, September 2nd. Jason Moore is here. Mike, the Fantasy Hitman. I'm Andy Holloway. And as always, full deusers. Well, not as always, but today we've got them all. Papa Josh back there in the middle. Al Borland doing most of the work. And then Falcons over there as well. Smirking. The Smirkin Falcon. Welcome into the show. Great one. We're in a Merkin.

We've got players we're afraid to be wrong about today. Players were afraid to be wrong about. There's a handful. I mean, you draw a line in the sand and you're trying to figure out what you're supposed to be doing. Dude, mine, I'm, well, we will get into it, but guys, I'm getting the hebie-jeebies on this guy. As in, you're afraid you're going to be wrong? I'm afraid we're all going to be wrong. Okay.

on the guy that you are bringing up today? I don't even know who it is. So it's somebody that we all... That's how I feel about my dude. But if we are wrong about this, it's going to be a disaster. Oh, no. Yeah. All right. I'm excited to find out who yours is. We've got the UDK. I did a little poll this morning. 50-50 is about people with drafts in the past, draft in the future. That's wild. So if you're not in there and you need help and draft day is coming up and I know...

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player marks and I did some more this morning for our upcoming draft in League of Record players I want to make sure I don't forget. Do you highlight sailors? Sailor Jerry? I didn't. Oh, really? No, you're saying that because I have Jamir Gibbs. No, not just that. I was saying it because this is a guy that I think, I would say the vast majority of our listeners right now literally don't know who I'm talking about.

And that's why you highlight, so do you highlight players that you don't know? Is that what you do in your draft? I'm saying you highlight players that are so easy to forget, especially the ones that are really down in ADP that you might think about grabbing with your last pick. No, he's not one of those. Yeah, he might not be. But Emmett Johnson is. Oh, absolutely. That, you know, some of these players that ADP is, are not going to move. I mean, you were making the point this morning.

Is Claybourne? Is Claybourne on that list? He should be. Yeah, for Minnesota. The biggest problem is that there's kind of like a couple different ways to think about this. All of these like maybe high value backup running backs are not necessarily going to get projected for stats that are going to make you notice them in terms of our rankings and where they show up. But if you highlight them, these are great players like we talked about in the depth episode on the Top Tip, the Tips and Tricks episode, there are.

It's very easy to know who's going to get to work on a number of these teams if players go down. Yeah, and just for full disclosure, Jacob Sailors. Yes. Who you called Jerry this morning. Yeah, Sailor Jerry. Oh, is that why you said Jerry? For sure. No, but Jacob Sailors, a player you've never heard of, player I had never heard of. And I, you know, we're pretty serious about football analysis. He is like.

the backup now to Jemir Gibbs with Pacheco gone until Kareem Hunt signs. Sure, and he should. They hope Pacheco comes back this year. Did you see that? Yes. Yes. And I was like, oh my goodness. So, yeah. All it really means is Jamir Gibbs is going to get a thousand touches this year. He could have 105% of the running back share. He's going to die. That's what I. I don't know how he makes it through this season. Don't say such things. Jamir Gibbs will not get hurt this year.

Oh, is that? Oh, is that? It worked for you last year, but yeah, did I say it with huge nerves? Yeah. Okay. What else is going on? I will say this. Talk about the listener league. The listener league genuine, genuine, genuine, genuine thank you. Yes. The folk clan, it takes us so much time to go through all these submissions. And, you know, we make the league 14 teams so that we can have as many people as possible in there. There's still so few spots that are actually available.

I'm going to be getting back to everybody today, whether you made it in, whether you didn't, whether you were close. It was like, I just, it's always like emotionally devastating to watch these awesome videos. I just edited a bunch of videos from like my kids' college applications.

And I know the work that goes in, and I'm watching it. I'm like, you did so much work. You're so cool. You know the show. And you didn't make it because there's just so few spots. So I'm going to be getting back to the people. We are like Harvard. Thank you. You know, it's strict. Oh, absolutely. This is a Harvard. This is an Ivy League league. It's an Ivy League. Yes. So thank you. We'll be getting back to those who are going to be playing in the listener league with us this week. I'll, or this year. I will be getting back to you today. And.

If you're like, I don't know how I could possibly get in one of the spots, that's the winner of the Meglabel. They're in this year because they won last year. So that's always your chance if you're playing in the Meglabel win and you're in our listener league next year. Quick question of the day from Garrett in Texas. Having a debate with the boys, in your opinion, what percentage of fantasy is skill and knowing what you're doing and what percentage is just dumb luck.

And I guess Kyle put a new article on the site that is literally titled Is Fantasy Football Hard? I haven't read it yet, but he was talking about he's been sitting on it forever and like worked hard on it. I have like a slack reminder to go read that. I'm very curious. Coming off of my super duper champ year, the answer to that question is no. Oh my gosh. It's not. Mute his microphone. Not luck, huh?

It's just... No, he's not hard. As far as luck versus skill, obviously there is some luck involved. You cannot possibly predict injury. Because there's luck in the sport of football. Absolutely. Injuries. Yeah, injuries are a tipped ball. A ball bad. Just the shape of the football causes like when it bounces, you're not 100% sure where that ball is going to go. I will say this. There's a phrase that we used to say all the time around the office that we never really said on the show. I don't know why it was like a...

almost felt negative. But it's really not. And I say this in my life all the time, and I believe this. I believe it takes pure skill to make the playoffs. In fantasy football, if you're skilled, you're going to make the playoffs. If you look at who makes the playoffs year after year after year in your league, it's going to be the better managers, period. And then it takes some luck to win the championship. Absolutely. When you're in the playoffs and you're going up against good teams and you've got, you know, one win and that. So I feel like...

Takes skill to make the playoffs, takes luck to win the championship. Now you have a note to read the article is fantasy football hard by Kyle Borgannoni. But did you know the estimated reading time on that article is 17 minutes? I'm out. I'm out. Give me a TLDR. The TLDR is that the good habits of fantasy football are easy, but the sport is chaotic. Okay. Well, I don't need to read that. It sounds like an average.

Number two? An average bathroom visit for you. Oh, that's a below average for him. Two things, sir. One, time-wise, you're correct. I'm a slow reader. Okay, if it's 17 minutes on average, that's a 30-minute burger for me. Just to be clear, you're a slow reader, but you're not a slow number two? Oh, I am. I am. I'm just slow. You should call Kyle while you're in the bathroom and have him read it to you. That's a great idea. Goodness gracious.

That's a great idea. Kyle, get ready. Kyle's FaceTime. All right. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Well, the Lions did place Isaiah Pacheco on injured reserve. So he's out at least the first four games of the season. Congratulations to Isaiah Pachev, or to, Jamir Gibbs. Kareem Hunt visited last week, didn't sign. I don't know how much Kareem Hunt has left. I don't know if he fits. I would have been.

shocked that they didn't sign him then, to be honest with you, because this isn't a surprise. Pacheco's, this news has been percolating through press conferences for weeks of like kind of inferring that he's not even a part of the equation. So the money probably doesn't add up. Yeah. And you had Dan Campbell after the visit talk about Jacob Sailors and saying like we're confident in him. He knows the system. It's great that we have a good backup. You think that's bringing the price down on Hunt? Is that what the goal? Maybe. It has to be because this dude is not.

I won't care. I just believe Dan Campbell. Right. Like, I don't know. He doesn't have the will to lie? I'm sure he does. And I was just saying, like, if he, if he, in fact, is a liar, liar pants, as a lot of these coaches are, I mean, he's very good at it. I think there's a correlation to how much you cry to how much you lie. And he cries a lot. So if you cry, you don't lie. Okay. You can always trust the tears, Mike. Not crocodile tears.

No Sean Moreno shout out. George Kittal traveling. Oh, baby. With the 49ers to Australia. Let's go, George. So it seems like George has had a couple of great practices and may literally start the season with a confusing level of production. That would be my guess. If he's starting the season, we're not expecting full snap counts, right? No, no, no, no. It's going to take some time. And Australia is super far from the substation.

Yeah, it's about as far as you can get. Yeah, that's like going as far away as you can. It's great to see him there. I can't fathom. I cannot fathom. I mean, this is the real push comes to shove right now for everybody listening. If you draft George Kittle and he is active week one, are you playing him? Oh, that's a whole different discussion. We're working on our week one rankings right now.

So those will be up early this next week, obviously, as next week is week one. But I think there are many other better options than Kittal week one. This was kind of why I thought the Tanges McBasketball could not work out for people. It was the idea that Kittle starts or starts soon and then both guys play. And like, you know, the problem is, is if you take Kittle, there's a draft price and you really can't spend.

another one in that range it's like an eighth rounder for kiddle yeah yeah oh not and i think in some leagues maybe yeah kiddell's usually an eighth rounder but it's going to be earlier that's still you're still giving up you're still i've just said where his adp has been and i've been jason your jason's out on kittle i am willing to accept the the cost and the risk and the slower start because of

what George Kittle can become. Like, if you want to, if you want to take George in the 8th and then stream the position for a few weeks, I'm okay with that because the players you're drafting later, like, while you can get, you can piece together your, your production and be okay with your floor. No one represents what George Kittle can do. Should he make a, like it's a miraculous comeback. Yeah. But I would, the fact that he's already traveling.