Players We're Afraid to Be Wrong About - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/2

It didn't seem like they ever schemed him to his strengths. They used him poorly last year. 30% of his routes were slants. I'm sorry, 21% of his routes. So few of his routes were slants, crosser screens like that's his, what he does well. They just didn't use him the way that he has always thrived. They wanted to move on. They wanted to have this new trifecta of Loveland, Odunzei, and Burden. But.

Gosh, it just, it didn't feel like Joe Brady is a big part of this, right? The new head coach, former OC for the Bills, who used to be the OC back in Carolina when DJ Moore was in his prime. He's like, he was talking about how in 2025 I saw the same player. I didn't see anything different. So he thinks he's getting 2021 DJ Moore. I just don't. Was he watching 2021 tape? He's like, he has, dude, he's looking great. Also, this scheme is awesome.

It's a good name to bring up. It is a good name because I think as a show, we're lower than consensus. The situation freaks me out. What I would to calm you, Jason, or just to be like, this is why I'm thinking what I'm thinking. Stefan Diggs, in terms of yardage, was coming off of the highest yardage of his career before he got traded to.

the Buffalo Bills. His receptions were way down, but he was up at 18 yards of reception. Like, it was a very solid year for Stefan Diggs. That last year for DJ Moore was literally his worst year ever. And I'm on team Ben Johnson. And it's like, if Ben Johnson isn't figuring out how to maximize you, that's really strange.

I can't imagine it's a Ben Johnson's like I just don't like you DJ Moore it's like no he a guy who they would didn't he sign an extension like before the season so yeah something something had just come up where he got more money I can't recall the timing of it but so that's are you guys in or out on DJ Moore like personally I'm in the same boat you are where I can see it going both ways I mean where is he his ADP

I'm looking. Wider's here, 22. I've got him at 25. He's Jason at 26. We're all below ADP. He's a fifth rounder on Sleeper and Yahoo at a sixth on ESPN. I'll tell you what, it's transitioned from being completely out on him to me actively trying to stack him with Josh Allen when I can. That is where I end up. If I ever am in a mock or in some kind of draft where I do end up with him, which is rare, it's always, I've never drafted him without having Josh Allen on the roster.

All right, the next player we are afraid to be wrong about Mike and I pick the same position. You guys picked pretty much the same type of, like the same archetype player. I have been the, I've been on the downside of the Jackson Dart argument all offseason. So that is the name. I'm most afraid to be wrong about a 23 year old running quarterback. And part of the argument against Jackson Dart is an inexact predictive.

situation where like you can't predict injury like that's a part of the factors of the jackson dart equation for me he's already been in you can predict that jackson dart will get hurt you can predict foolishness in the back and he's already been in the blue tint uh this preseason so you know you can blame everything else but it's him too like he he holds the ball a long time he likes to make plays happen

and he runs with some reckless abandon that caused him to be in the blue tent in half of his starts last year. I don't want to over or underthink the situation. I have been more nervous about it. Now the irony is I'm looking at ADP. I'm basically pretty much at ADP. I'm even a little, I'm a spot higher. Like, you know, you guys are much higher, or Jason is. But.

I just am very worried about anything on this offense working out to start the year. Neighbors, it seems more and more likely he won't start the season. Certainly not with a full snap cannon at 100%. And I am worried about starting the year well. You've got an interesting Dallas matchup in week one. That should be really fun. But then you go and play the Rams. Stay healthy against Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald in week two. Is Cam Scataboo going to be the main guy? Are they going to have to rotate this thing?

But I'm afraid to be wrong about them. I mean, there are certain players that it's like kind of... It's funny because a lot of these players, like Jackson Dart is another player. I'm afraid to be wrong on. We're on, you know what I mean? On the opposite side of it. Because I'm kind of bullish. I like the shot in the ninth round of a young mobile quarterback who was basically scoring 20 points a game without neighbors last year in a rookie season over and over and over. But like, I'm not...

Once upon a time he was on the list on the board for my guy. I went back and I watched all the tape and I looked at the schedule and I dug as deep as I could and I go, nah, nah, dude. I'm going to draft him. I'm going to. Well, he's getting cheaper and more affordable. In the last two weeks, he's dropped a lot in ADP for all these. I don't know why. Just, you know. People afraid. People are smart. People have been compelled by my arguments. They're so compelling.

Yeah, it's... I like to use the same word twice in arguments, which kind of reemphasizes it. Like Shakespeare over here. Yeah. Yeah, I think he could turn into a league-winning type, but my goodness, he's just not a good enough quarterback. It's kind of, he fits the category of could bust, could be fine, and could be great. Right, he does. Those guys are all players who are afraid to be. Kind of like adjusted fields, you know, it's like...

Man, he can score a lot in fantasy. He can run like crazy, but is he a good enough quarterback? I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know if. I know he's a better quarterback than Justin Fields already. The naggy Harbaugh, top division. Keeps nagging at you. It does. Thank you. Very compelling. All right. The player, I'm more concerned about just what has been coming out of Washington camp, Jaden Daniels.

quarterback of the Washington commanders, because the question is, what if the rookie year was just right place, right time, and it was pure magic, and that is the best that we are ever going to get from Jaden Daniels? You know, we've, in fantasy football, I guess he's going as the QB6, so it's not like we're just elevating him right back to being a top tier.

fantasy quarterback, because I think he was like QB2 or QB3 last year. But the vibes out of Washington have, they've been very bad. We brought up this report from Nikki Javola of that quote, this is the worst I've ever seen the commander's offense and years, inoperable offensive line. Okay? That's a gigantic red flag. I know he's mobile, but when your offensive line is trash,

It's just helpful. It's very, very difficult to come through for fantasy football. Last year, even win healthy. Yeah, Jane Daniels was running a tonne. Like the floor, you know, it was there. But the passing numbers, they were not spectacular. He was, you know, we had a couple 20-point outings. We love to see that. But in terms of him versus the field, he was a top 12 quarterback in one of his healthy games.

He was QB6 in that week against Chicago, a defense that people had some real fantasy success against, just a little bit concerned. It's a whole new offense, right? His first couple years, you had Cliff Kingsbury, and they're bringing a very college-friendly type of a system, and now the reports are, well, Dan Quinn wants more pro. We want to be under center more, which I understand. When you take your quarterback and you're just playing in shotgun,

It really nerfs a lot of what you're able to do with play action, with actually just running the ball. And then you have, and David Blow, it's his first time. David Blah Blah, Blah. It's just, what if he's just not a good play caller? Even if he's decent, even if he's decent, is he as good as Cliff Kingsbury for fantasy? It's like, check out Philadelphia. Philadelphia had marvelous fantasy football pieces for us to draft and enjoy. One of, Kellemore comes in. Everything is great.

Kellamore leaves, we get a new OC, it's bad. First time OCs can, it can turn upside down. And I'm just starting to get a little bit more concerned about maybe we need to hedge here. And then on top, his top two weapons are Terry McLaurin and Stefan Diggs. What's wrong with that, Mike? Years gone by. That, that's fine. We have not had two wide receivers who are both 30 or older. Finish one.

1 and 2 on a team in receptions since 2010 when Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson did it. But the run game will kind of open up things for him, you know, don't you think? What do you would talk about? Behind the offensive line with Bill and Richard White. So just I'm starting to get a little bit more concerned that we're like I'm still drafting Jane Daniels. Are you? As I have been. But.

Where are you at? Because I- A little scary. I find myself, we haven't really talked about him much. I'm glad you're bringing this name up. He's just been ranked really high. He's been ranked really high in my rankings. Like I, you know, you stab people out and you go, this is the type of ball he plays. This is what he's going to end up having to run for in this offense, which is helpful for fantasy. And the stats say what the stats say. And he's been decently high. But every time I'm on the clock, where you're drafting him, and it's been lower than, I mean,

There's been the argument of this year, these really elite type of quarterbacks, get them in the sixth round. So in one hand, that's like, that's really great. Jalen Hertz, Daniels in the sixth round, fantastic value. On the other hand, it's like I keep passing on them because there's players, you know, Jameson, and Jadarian Price and, you know, Roma Dunes. It's like, I like those guys and I'm not sure.

that the commander's offense is going to be. Like, I can see them collapsing. Right. These are not questions for quarterbacks that we have anointed great. All the problems and objections to Jaden are not things that you necessarily are bringing up about the great producers at the position. We just don't have a long enough track record with Jaden. And so some people are saying, yes, he is that, and he'll be fine. And adding Diggs is a huge improvement, as old as Diggs is.

On the other hand, some people are saying, well, maybe it's not proven. You had a great easy schedule, right? This is the Drake May thing where like Drake May has his breakout, but the schedule was juicy, and that's what it was for Washington two years ago. Last year, part of the problem is when he actually played, he wasn't that good. Yeah. And so it's like. But he didn't have weapons. He didn't have Terry McLaren for most of those games. He obviously didn't have digs. I will say this. But you had an old Debo and, you know. I can make the argument.

For Jane Daniels to be good. We're just, we're bringing up the, like, uh-oh. Is he an elite quarterback? If he is, he will be fine. I find myself not drafting him for a lot of the reasons you're outlaying and kind of just passing on him for other options. However, when you look at what wins a championship, it's those game-breaking guys with extreme upside. And there is an obvious path for Daniels. Like, if you told me,

At the end of the year, he's number one. He's like, of course. He could rush for, there's only three guys in the league this year that have a legitimate capability of rushing for 800 yards. And he's one of them. And if you end up rushing for 750 plus yards and then you're a good passer, if those two things come together, like what happened for Lamar Jackson twice in his career, you just win. And so.

his risk is going to be higher yeah because he is just like dart he could get hurt he got banged up multiple times last year and they were like if you if you run recklessly you're at risk at his size he's tinier than dart darts got at least some meat on the bone when we when you know me when he was when he was healthy is what we're saying if he was still running he was on a 17 game pace in his healthy games of 742 rushing yards that's that's still an absurd number um

But it was weeks three and four, he was out with a knee injury. Then week eight was a hamstring injury. And then the rest of the year it was an elbow injury. Oh, yeah, he came out and popped his elbow. Yeah. So running. It's, you know, of course, we're not trying to freak people out of like people have drafted. People got drafts coming up. We're just, I'm moving that risk rating up. No, it makes sense. The league winning upside is still there with Jane Daniels.

You know, I always say it's about how much risk are you willing to accept. Could he be a quarterback you draft and you have to find another quarterback? It certainly could happen. All right. We'll take a break and we got a couple other names, maybe get into the mailbag. What's up, Foot Clan? You are confident and disciplined and focused on details, just like everyone here at the fancy footballers, right? Those are words you used to describe us. In other words, you were made to drive the 2026 Sierra 1500 Denali.