Players We're Afraid to Be Wrong About - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/2

He is going to play with his best quarterback of his entire career on a, you know, we just drafted yesterday like the top offenses. Buffalo is, if they're not, one, they're no lower than five. They are absolutely one of the elite of the elites, the S-class tier. And so it's like, okay, now he's the wide receiver one. Camp highlights have been great.

all of the buzz after when he first arrived it was like oh he's having trouble getting on the same page with Josh Allen he's got to learn the playbook it seems like he did because practice after practice after practice he's leading the team in targets he's dominating the defenders he's looking great and part of me is still like

thinking Alan Robinson vibes. Later career goes to the Rams and in practice and in these camp highlights and the one hand, you know, in zone touchdown. It's like he looks good. He was paid money. DJ Moore was traded for with good capital. They paid a lot more than the going rate was assumed. Then they paid the man money. He is their one. It should work for fantasy. But what I saw last year from DJ Moore was like,

He didn't break tackles the way that was his trademark forever. He is older. You know, 29 years old is like, that's the time where you start to worry. So I have not been bullish on him. I haven't been in on him. I haven't drafted him. And I'm worried I'm going to be wrong. Because if it hits, if he's just, if he is a good wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills with no target competition, like at the end of this year, he could be like, how did we not all know that he was going to be a wide receiver won for fantasy? Because his upside is like top 10 wide receiver.

Yeah, we do have the back of our minds, the Amari Cooper trade that didn't do anything. We also would not have changed that opinion about the Bill's offense if he didn't exist there. Correct. You would have thought the same thing. So there's a lot of reasons to be like, we've watched him succeed, Josh Allen, with no wide receiver one, with just a bunch of options. You like Dalton Kincaid. Now, Shakir being out to start the year, potentially. Also interesting. Yeah. There's a lot kind of swirling around there, and it's really, like if you want to make the

Bull case for D.J. Moore being fine and being good for Buffalo. I think you also can look to Chicago didn't want him. Chicago inherited him, Luther Burden, Colston Loveland, Roma Dunzee. It didn't seem like they ever schemed him to his strengths. They used him poorly last year. 30% of his routes were slants. I'm sorry, 21% of his routes. So few of his routes were slants, crosser screens like that's his.

what he does well. They just didn't use him the way that he has always thrived. They wanted to move on. They wanted to have this new trifecta of Loveland, O'Donzei, and Burden. But gosh, it just didn't feel like Joe Brady is a big part of this, right? The new head coach, former OC for the Bills, who used to be the OC back in Carolina when DJ Moore was in his prime. He's like, he was talking about how.

In 2025, I saw the same player. I didn't see anything different. So he thinks he's getting 2021 DJ Moore. I just don't. Was he watching 2021 tape? He's like, he has, dude, he's looking great. Also, this scheme is awesome. It's a good name to bring up. It is a good name because I think as a show, we're lower than consensus. The situation freaks me out. What I would, to calm.

You, Jason, are just to be like, this is why I'm thinking what I'm thinking. Stefan Diggs, in terms of yardage, was coming off of the highest yardage of his career before he got traded to the Buffalo Bills. His receptions were way down, but he was up at 18 yards of reception. It was a very solid year for Stefan Diggs. That last year for DJ Moore was literally his worst year ever. And I'm on team Ben Johnson.

And it's like, if Ben Johnson isn't figuring out how to maximize you, that's really strange. I can't imagine it's a Ben Johnson's like, I just don't like you, I don't like you, DJ more. It's like, no, he. A guy who they, didn't he sign an extension like before the season? Yeah, something. Something had just come up where he got more money. I can't recall the timing of it. But so that's.

Are you guys in or out on DJ more? Like, personally. I'm in the same boat you are where I can see it going both ways. I mean, where is his ADP? I'm looking. Whyder's your 22? And I've got him at 25. He's Jason at 26. We're all below ADP. He's a fifth rounder on Sleeper and Yahoo at a sixth on ESPN. I'll tell you what. It's transitioned from being completely out on M2, me actively trying to stack.

him with Josh Allen when I can. That is where I end up. If I ever am in a mock or in some kind of draft where I do end up with him, which is rare, it's always, I've never drafted him without having Josh Allen on the roster. All right, the next player we are afraid to be wrong about, Mike and I pick the same position. You guys pick pretty much the same type of, like the same archetype player. I have been the, I've been on the downside of the Jackson Dart argument all offseason.

So that is the name. I'm most afraid to be wrong about a 23-year-old running quarterback. And part of the argument against Jackson Dart is an inexact predictive situation where, like, you can't predict injury. Like, that's a part of the factors of the Jackson Dart equation for me. He's already been in. You can predict.

That Jackson Dart will get hurt. You can predict foolishness in the back. And he's already been in the blue tent this preseason. So, you know, you can blame everything else, but it's him too. Like he holds the ball a long time. He likes to make plays happen. And he runs with some reckless abandon that caused him to be in the blue tent in half of his starts last year. I don't want to over or underthink the situation. I have been.

more nervous about it. Now the irony is, I'm looking at ADP. I'm basically pretty much at ADP. I'm a spot higher. Like, you know, you guys are much higher, or Jason is. But I just am very worried about anything on this offense working out to start the year. Neighbors, it seems more and more likely he won't start the season at certainly not with a full snap cannon at 100%. And, um,

I am worried about starting the year well. You've got an interesting Dallas matchup in week one. That should be really fun. But then you go and play the Rams. Stay healthy against Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald in week two. Is Cam Scataboo going to be the main guy? Are they going to have to rotate this thing? But I'm afraid to be wrong about them. I mean, there are certain players that it's like kind of... It's funny because a lot of these players, like Jackson Dart is another player. I'm afraid to be wrong on. You know what I mean? On the opposite side of it.

I'm kind of bullish. I like the shot in the ninth round of a young mobile quarterback who was basically scoring 20 points a game without neighbors last year in a rookie season over and over and over. But like I'm not, once upon a time he was on the list on the board for my guy. I went back and I watched all the tape and I looked at the schedule and I dug as deep as I could and I go, nah, no, dude. I'm going to draft him. I'm going to.

Well, he's getting cheaper and more affordable. In the last two weeks, he's dropped a lot in ADP for all these. I don't know why. Just, you know. People afraid. People afraid. People are smart. People have been compelled by my arguments. They're so compelling. Yeah, it's. I like to use the same word twice in arguments, which kind of reemphasizes it. Like Shakespeare over here. Yeah. Yeah. I think he could turn into a league winning type. But my goodness, he's just not a good enough.

quarterback. It's kind of, he fits the category of could bust, could be fine, and could be great. Right. He does. Those guys are all players who are afraid to be. Kind of like adjusted fields. You know, it's like, man, he can score a lot in fantasy. He can run like crazy, but is he a good enough quarterback? I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know if. I know he's a better quarterback than Justin Fields already. The naggy Harbaugh top division keeps nagging at you. It does. Thank you. Very compelling. All right. The, the player.

I'm more concerned about just what has been coming out of Washington camp, Jaden Daniels, quarterback of the Washington commanders, because the question is, what if the rookie year was just right place, right time, and it was pure magic, and that is the best that we are ever going to get from Jaden Daniels. You know, we've...

I was in fantasy football. I guess he's going as the QB6, so it's not like we're just elevating him right back to being a top tier fantasy quarterback. Because I think he was like QB2 or QB3 last year. But the vibes out of Washington have, they've been very bad. You know, we brought up this report from Nikki Javola of that quote. This is the worst I've ever seen the commander's offense and years.

inoperable offensive line. Okay? That's a gigantic red flag. I know he's mobile, but when your offensive line is trash, it's just helpful. It's very, very difficult to come through for fantasy football. Last year, even win healthy. Yeah, Jane Daniels was running a ton. Like the floor, you know, it was there, but the passing numbers, they were not spectacular. He was.

You know, we had a couple 20-point outings. We love to see that. But in terms of him versus the field, he was a top 12 quarterback in one of his healthy games. He was QB6 in that week against Chicago, a defense that people had some real fantasy success against, just a little bit concerned. It's a whole new offense, right? His first couple years, you had Cliff Kingsbury, and they're bringing a very college-friendly type of a system. And now the reports are, well, Dan Quinn,

wants more pro. We want to be under center more, which I understand. Like when you take your quarterback and you're just playing in shotgun, it really nerfs a lot of what you're able to do with play action, with actually just running the ball. And then you have, and David Blow, it's his first time. David Blah Blah Blah. It's just, what if he's just not a good play caller? Even if he's decent, even if he's decent, is he as good as.

Cliff Kingsbury for fantasy. It's like check out Philadelphia. Philadelphia had marvelous fantasy football pieces for us to draft and enjoy. Calamore comes in. Everything is great. Kellamore leaves. We get a new OC. It's bad. First time OCs can, it can turn upside down. And I'm just starting to get a little bit more concerned about maybe we need to hedge here. And then on top, his top two weapons?

Are Terry McLaurin and Stefan Diggs? What's wrong with that, Mike? Years gone by. That's fine. We have not had two wide receivers who are both 30 or older, finished one and two on a team in receptions since 2010 when Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson did it. But the run game will kind of open up things for him, you know, don't you think? What do you would talk about? Behind the offensive line with Bill and Richard White.

So just, I'm starting to get a little bit more concerned that we're, like, I'm still drafting Jane Daniels as I have been. But, uh, are, where are you at? Cause I, I, I find myself, we haven't really talked about him much. I'm glad you're bringing this name up. He's just been ranked really high. He's been ranked really high. He's been ranked really high in my rankings. Like I, you know, you stab people out and you go, this is the, the type of.

ball he plays. This is what he's going to end up having to run for in this offense, which is helpful for fantasy. And the stats say what the stats say. And he's been decently high. But every time I'm on the clock, where you're drafting him, and it's been lower than, I mean, there's been the argument of this year, these really elite type of quarterbacks, get him in the sixth round. So in one hand, that's like, that's really great. Jalen Hertz, Daniels in the sixth round.

fantastic value at on the other hand it's like i i keep passing on them because there's players you know jameson williams and jadarian price and um you know roma dunza it's like i i like those guys and i'm not sure that the commander's offense is going to be like i can see them collapsing right these are not questions for quarterbacks that we have anointed great all the problems and objections to to jaden

are not things that you necessarily are bringing up about the great producers at the position. We just don't have a long enough track record with Jaden. And so some people are saying, yes, he is that, and he'll be fine. And adding Diggs is a huge improvement, as old as Diggs is. On the other hand, some people are saying, well, maybe it's not proven. You had a great easy schedule, right? This is the Drake May thing. We're like, Drake May has his breakout, but the schedule was juicy, and that's what it was for Washington two years ago. Last year,