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Good Vibes/Bad Vibes + Upside Names
Good Vibes/Bad Vibes + Upside Names
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I felt the power. I had some requests. I was due for a longer intro. I mean, people have expectations. Well, you've got extra oxygen today. I do? I'm just trying to figure out the mystery. You're speculating? Yes. Welcome into the fantasy footballers. Excited to be with you Tuesday, August 27th. Hope you enjoyed the live show, which was yesterday's podcast. We had a good time in Phoenix.
With the Andrew Luck News breaking moments before the live show, with the smattering of Colts fans wearing Colts jerseys, searching for the meaning of life. And we're excited to be with you today. We've got good vibes, bad vibes on the show today. Great quick question. So much going on. So excited to get into the season. We just had one of our big drafts, our League of Record draft here in the studio. That was Sunday evening. It was a great time. Mike was paying.
paying the iron price for his food, food decisions. Look, when you're on a pretty strict regiment and then draft Sunday shows up and oregano's deep dish pizzas there, all bets are off. Hashtag not a sponsor. Yes. But delicious. Mike, worth it? On Sunday it was. It's so strange when you do those things because while you're eating it totally worth it. The next day...
When you're frequenting other places of the home, not so much. Yeah, yeah. Welcome in. Follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers, the website's the fantasy footballers.com. You can head over to YouTube, subscribe, click the bell. We just built out a whole new wheel of water payout set, would you call it? So we make water bets on the show all the time.
We filmed the watering that happened at our live draft, which happened to Jason. It happened to Brooks. It happened to one other co-owner. It was spectacular because it didn't happen to me. Because it takes three people to... Takes a village. To finish that boring. To bomb a super team. When you have a true super team, watch out. We also passed an initiative at this draft.
So the tradition in our league of record, traditions are great, is that if you finish dead last, every single owner in the league spins the wheel of water, and they douse the owner that finished last, and they draft wet. The whole draft soaking wet. We pass the new initiative to upgrade that. The loser of each season will now have a custom-made turtleneck. Wool.
Wool turtle neck. Turtleneck sweater. With their losing roster printed on it, the watering will happen to them in the turtle neck. They will have to draft in the turtle neck. It will be a great deterrent to tanking. So I can only hope somehow some way all of your players get hurt, Jason. We have a bit of a tanking problem in our league where you have to, you know. Tank is a dirty word. It's people investing in the future. It's a keeper league, so people invest in their future.
You want to win, you got to go hard. Quick question of the day. Name a player that is currently being drafted at their ADP floor. So a player that you look at right now, where they're being drafted, that's the worst case scenario for them. So upside picks would be another way to say this. I had two names that came to mind when I look at the board.
one of which I thought took place during our League of Record draft. That was Adrian Peterson. I think Adrian Peterson being drafted in most leagues is the 10th round. We got late in our draft and I looked to my co-owner and I said, is Adrian Peterson still here? Because you were past even the Peyton Barber era of drafting running backs. So I think Adrian Peterson has some upside in the 10th round. If guys...
gets himself hurt, which is a possibility, doesn't have a lot of carries. The other player, I think, is Jared Cook. When I look at the tight-in landscape, and I see Jared Cook in the seventh round, I really don't think he could, I don't think his fantasy finish outcome can get much worse than drafting him in the seventh round. So he's kind of in the same range as Vance McDonald, who I think has a wider range of outcomes, because we haven't seen a season where he has finished in that upper echelon yet.
For me, those are the two picks that I have. Do you agree with them? Do you disagree? I'm with you on Adrian Peterson. I think that he's a great value pick. Jared Cook, it's a little bit tougher because, yeah, he's the seventh round, but he's also the seventh tight end off the board. And I see Jared Cook's range of outcomes is very high. I mean, he could slip in there. He could be somehow the fifth tight end at the end of the season, but I also think that he can slip.
outside of the top 12. I lean more than he will be a good fancy tight-in, a stabilizing force for you, but he's going to have plenty of games where you're mad at Jared Cook. Yeah, I have Jared Cook right now as my tight-in 10. So he's still a tight-in one, but that would be beyond that range of outcomes. I had two players that came to mind as well. One I've talked about recently, one of which was snaked from me.
By you, Mike. Or we could say lizarded from me. By you, Mike. Yes, Sammy Watkins. I just. The lizard king. I get it. And you could, you could say, well, that's not his floor. His floor is he's injured for, you know, 75% of the season. And his floor is he's wide receiver 100. But he's the wide receiver 42 right now. And when he's, when he's played with Pat Mahomes, he's always, you know, a.
playable, startable, fantasy option, the ceiling is higher. The other player is Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders right now is the running back 27. That's the rookie running back drafted very high draft capital for the Eagles. Historically, they do not spend high draft capital on running backs. They did this year on Miles Sanders after realizing that the Corey Clement and Josh Adams. They're like, okay.
Okay, I get it like we don't need to pay up for running backs, but we need to like, we need to not scrape the bottom of the barrel. We don't need to be playing undrafted free agents. Exactly. So they got Miles Sanders. Now, he's in a timeshare. So let's say he stays in a time share the whole year. Right now he's the running back 27. I looked back at last year, who were the running backs that finished right there around 27? Matt Berita, Mark Ingram, T.J. Yeldin. Those are guys in a timeshare.
They weren't the lead dog of their team. And that's where Miles Sanders is being drafted right now is at his worst case scenario where he's splitting the load. If he gets it to the moon. Can I give a Miles Sanders PSA? Because right now we're at the point we're on Twitter where you can follow Mike at FF Hitman. Jason, you can follow at Jason FFL. I'm at Andy Holloway. We have been sent a lot.
of screenshots of your teams. And you want us to evaluate them and say whether they look better. They're all looking great. That's not the PSA. The PSA is that Miles Sanders, I've seen Miles Sanders as the RB2 on a number of rosters. And I just want to say I love Miles Sanders, the talent. I love the opportunity. I love where I think he'll be three, four weeks into the season. I don't feel exceptional about Miles Sanders in week one or week two. I think it's going to take time to let the, you know,
Pour all the running backs into the filter, and then, you know, it's going to take a couple weeks for them to come out the bottom. And Miles Sanders will come out on top. But I don't feel amazing about Miles Sanders in the early, early part of the year. So when you're making flex decisions, keep that in mind. I love Miles Sanders, but it's a long season. And week one, I'm not positive that the workload is going to be there, Darren Sprouls and Jordan Howard, et cetera. Yeah, if you're one of those teams where Miles Sanders is.
Right now he's your starting running back too. Go check your waiver wire for the Tony Pollards and the Justin Jackson's of the world. Just in case. Just in case. That's a better week one start. If Zika's out to go start Tony Pollard, absolutely. And then you're loaded. And it's it, you know, I was with my trainer yesterday. And he had a buddy there that was talking about his draft. And he had just trash running backs. You know, and I was, he had G.O. Bernard. And I was like.
Dude, go see if Tony Pollard or, you know, Justice Jackson are there. They were both there. Go scoop them up. And I would say for Miles Sanders, I get the concern for week one and week two. He is my running back too in the league of record. I don't feel comfortable with it. The nice thing in his favor, though, is Jordan Howard, who is kind of presumed that he would be fighting for time against. Jordan Howard is also new to that team. So this is not...
the rookie running back, even though he's a second rounder, he has to come in and beat out an established veteran in that team. So I would also expect to see some of the other running backs cut this week. Josh Adams, Corey Clement, Darren Sproles, Bill Smallwood. Some of those players, I believe, will be, what, you got Dinell Pumphrey, still there. Wow, he's still there? I think so. Yeah. Well, I think so. As of yesterday, he was. A couple more days. I think you're going to see it, you know.
The blurry vision will become clear. So I did see he was your running back too, Mike, but you're in the Melvin Gordon boat. Yeah. So you have. He's not supposed to be. No, he's not supposed to be. Mike, who do you have as your player being drafted at their floor? I apologize for the Eagles love fest, but I think Alshan Jeffrey is being drafted at his floor looking at a guy who's going right around the wide receiver 29 spot. And Alshon Jeffrey, two years ago was an absolute touchdown machine. He hit nine.
And what people don't remember at this point is his shoulder was wrecked that entire season. He played through it. He had to get surgery at the end of the season. And that was his lowest yards per game since his rookie season. His catch percentage was a putrid, 47.5%. Meanwhile, his last year in Chicago, he was averaging 68 yards a game. Last year for Philadelphia, 64 yards a game.
People are forgetting Alshan Jeffrey because there's so many magical toys for Philadelphia with Zach Erds, possibly the emergence of Dallas Goddard, D-Jax, and D-Jac. Aguilar. Alshund Jeffrey is still the wide receiver one on this team. And like until further notice, it's just shocking to me that someone with his upside and floor isn't even being drafted as a wide receiver too. Well, to your.
