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Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - The TRUTH About Fantasy WR's in 2016, Part 2

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And Mike Ride. Welcome to the show. Once again, we welcome you in. It is Thursday, January 12th. That was a good flow. 2017. Once again, we welcome you in. Yes, I like to keep it. I like to keep it tight. Got to keep it right. Got to keep it right. Andy, Mike, Jason, all back.

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We're all back. All wearing Fitbits. Hey, you're of health. Motivational competition between us now on a day-to-day step count trying to get in shape. Get it right. Get it tight. Just tighten. We have a, just tighten up. Yeah. I like that working out, Jason, for you meant that you couldn't work out later because you were hurting so bad. That is a weird, a strange.

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You have no idea how sore I am today. That is, I am surprised. Oh, my goodness. I was a little sore, but I went out and play basketball yesterday. Yeah, well, you know, some of us work out a little harder. Oh, okay. And I destroyed my body. Well, congratulations. Thank you. Welcome to the show. It's going to be a good one. We have the second half of the truth about fantasy football wide receivers in 2016. This is, you know, if you didn't hear the first episode, go back, listen to Tuesday's episode. We broke down the.

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wide receivers 1 through 10, how they finished, what their consistency looked like, how they performed against good and bad teams. We broke it all down, give you some perspective beyond the numbers, beyond the rankings. And that's what we're doing again today. We'll go through a number, probably about 10 more wide receivers. And then we'll also talk about some guys that really laid an egg and kind of what to expect from them next year. We'll have these for every position. We'll have a quarterback episode, a tight-in episode, as well, running backs.

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Stay tuned. It's going to be great. Also, I want to call your attention to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. There are a number of really high quality articles going up over the past couple of weeks reflecting on the season. One I want to mention, there's a 25 statistics article about quarterbacks. Oh, that was so good. They're just fun. These are fun articles because you get 25 kind of mind-blowing stats from last year. It's basically like reading an all-star list of tweets.

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You know, like that tweet that's just like, oh, man, what a good stat nugget. You get to do that 25 times in a row by our man, Kyle Ballone. I'll pull one out of my brain here from what I remember. Marcus Mariotta had an eight straight week run of QB1 performances in the middle of the season. The only other one to do, only other quarterback to do that was Aaron Rogers over the course of the year. So you might have, you might lose sighted stuff like that because Mario was hurt towards the end of the year.

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Didn't affect your playoffs. Yeah, a lot of good ones in there. Second half of the year, Cam Newton was quarterback 22. Yeah. I got a couple of quick questions today. We'll start with a real important one here. This one comes in from Daniel. Daniel, he says, I'm in a league where last year's champion broke the trophy six months ago. I won the title three weeks ago and still haven't received the trophy. What kind of punishment should the owner receive? Here, let me go ahead and tackle this one.

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You want to take this one, Jason? I'll go ahead and take this one. It's almost like you know exactly this situation. If I had to guess, right? If I had to guess at this situation, I would guess that last year's championship was the only real championship and that this year nonsense happened. And you, Daniel, do not deserve the trophy. Also, it is in the trophy shop. I cannot make them move any faster. That's the trophy shop. Yeah, it is.

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Is it really? It's just, it's been, in case you haven't picked up on it, Jason broke the trophy, and he hasn't given it to the league. Where'd you get one of our league winners? Those pants. The pants store? The pants shop. The pants shop. All right, here's the real one, guys. The trophy shop. At my F.F. At my F.F. Witt. So Michael Newsom says, based on inconsistency of tight ends this year, are you comfortable taking any of them in the first three rounds? Do you even want Grankowski early? I have my thoughts, but I want to hear what you guys have to say.

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If Gronk is healthy or not on Pup, I'll say that. If he is not on the Pup list starting next year, I would absolutely take him in the third round. I mean, to me, that would be stealing Gronkowski. If I'm at the back of the second, maybe I'll think about it. I still think Gronk is worth the risk.

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that he gives, or his risk reward is so great for your team. We've seen when he puts together a fully healthy season, you win. If you and your friends are in a little gun battle and there's a bazooka laying off to the side and you can pick it up and fire it might misfire. It might miss fire and it might blow up. But if it hits, you just want. And that's what Grankowski is to me. So I would, I'm going to tell you right now, I would think about him back half a second.

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First round, no, no, no, no. No, I will not take the first round gamble. I am not quite as hot as you two on, on Grong. I agree in the third round. Your, your risk isn't that high anyways, but it's been a long time. I'll aim the bazooka at you. That's fine. Look, I mean, you've got, you've got to misfiring. Do they even call them bazookas anymore? Oh, I sure hope so. Dude, they have to. They call them missile launchers, but we're calling them bazookas. Oh, no, we got to change that.

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Listen, how are we going to change that? Because people listen to this show from everywhere, and I know that there's a general in the army listening right now in preparation for next season. All right, attention, Marines. We are changing some of our language around here. It is, we're going back to bazookas. Where's Patton at? Patton will take care of it. But I do think that that bazooka misfires quite often.

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You know, how many times have people drafted Gronk where they've won their league versus how many times where they've drafted Grunk where it's cost their team, you know, 50-50. Again, it comes down to draft value. Yeah, that's where for me and the third I am willing. I don't pick up the bazook in the first round anymore. Yeah. So, all right. There you go. There's no other tight ends you consider in those first three rounds, right? Not anymore. I mean, I'm still, I'm.

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I'm on it. I still like Jordan Reed. Yes. I love Jordan Reed. I think a third is probably too early. You didn't even need to spend a third this past year. Right. Jordan Reed. You're definitely not going to do it next year. Yeah, fair enough. News and notes from around the league. All right. Sad news here for San Diego residents. The Chargers will announce, according to Adam Schefter, by as early as Thursday that they are moving to Los Angeles, ending a 55-year stint with San Diego.

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returning to their birthplace. This is sad. It's weird that that's their birthplace. You forget that they were there for a year. Yeah, well, because it was 55 years ago. And I believe San Diego is pretty notorious for, like, with all the blackout rules, it was always, well, is San Diego going to get a blackout game? I remember, like, a string of game. Yeah, well, we experienced that in Arizona for a long time. You're not filling the seats. But did you see the stadiums?

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at the Rams games towards the end of the year. Yeah. There was nobody there. That was with one team. How are you going to support two teams? I don't. They're looking for a head coach, right? I, yeah. So do you want to who they should hire? Oh, Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher. Yeah. Bring him back to L.A. for another franchise. He doesn't get to play the Rams, but he gets to see them all the time. Yes. Yeah, I would, uh, I think L.A. can support two teams no problem. I think the reason people didn't show, look at the beginning of the year.

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That stadium was packed out. The reason they didn't come at the end of the year was because the product. Because the product was garbage. We could get into all the reasons why Californians don't show up in the back half of a year. But we won't. Head coaching changes. Lance Joseph signs a four-year deal with the Broncos. All right. This likely means just so we're aware, this likely means that you won't have, you know, Wade Phillips anymore because he's a D.C. Wade Phillips could land somewhere else.

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worth paying attention to for defenses. Mike McCoy is going to head back home to Denver, where he was the offensive coordinator. He'll take over again after leaving San Diego. And then Sean McDermott was hired as the Buffalo Bill's head coach. Everything I read about McDermott says he is the opposite and anti-Rex Ryan type of guy. He's not going to come in with the flash and bravado, but he has a heck of a pedigree. So pretty good head coach, higher, I think, for Buffalo. We'll see how it.

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It turns out. I like Mike McCoy going back to Denver. Yeah. You have Sanders and Thomas who can thrive. And we'll talk about both of them today because their consistency is terrible. But Mike McCoy gets, I mean.

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Maybe he's not head coach type of guy, but he gets production out of his quarterbacks. Yeah, later in the off season as well, we're going to go through once all the head coach and carousel is finished. We'll go in depth and tell you how Vance Joseph, how Sean McDermott, how these guys will affect the fantasy outlooks of their team. But we'll probably wait for that episode until most, if not all of the coaching. We need to see their whole entire coaching staff as well. A couple of notes for the playoffs. Ladarius Green still in the concussion protocol. Man.

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And then Geronimo Allison. Well, they were... Right. He certainly did. Still expected to play Sunday. Well done. Thank you. Oh. So he had some marijuana charges from an incident on September 4th. The traffic stop. Since they're pending, there won't be disciplined from the league yet. So I like Geronimo Allison more than I do. Janice or... Yes. It appears that the team likes Allison.

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Far more than Janus. And by the team, you mean Aaron Rogers. Right. Which is pretty much all that matters. Any other news you guys want to share? Shall we begin the truth? Let's get into it. I don't think I can hear. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. Can you handle it, Jay's? We're going to find out. Some of this truth gets a little uglier, the deeper we go.

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It always does. Yeah, we ended last episode with Brandon Cooks and Doug Baldwin, who both finished 9 and 10 in the half-point rankings. However, they were 23 and 33 on the consistency rankings. And just for a quick recap before we get back into the wide receivers, we're determining consistency based on how many top five performances did you have, how many top 25, and then how many kind of bust outside of the, you know, top 50 did you have?

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where you have a guy that you could have started a waiver wire scrub over them, and they might have cost you a week. So we're going to start now. Number 11 in half-point rankings, Michael Crabtree. He was great. Second consecutive year outperforming the flash of Amari Cooper. When push comes to shove, both in consistency and total points, Michael Crabtree was just playing better than Amari Cooper. 16 games.

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