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Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - The TRUTH About Fantasy WR's in 2016, Part 2

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Future rankings? You have them top eight? I have him top ten. Okay. Maybe top eight. Look, what do I like? I like a lot of what Tennessee is doing because it reminds me of Oakland. You have young quarterback, some wide receivers that are there, an up-and-coming team, good offensive line. So I don't see a reason why there's a lot of consistency there. I don't see a reason why Richard Matthews can't come back next year in a very, I mean...

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What, does Indy's defense scare you? Does Jacksonville's defense scare you? Does, you know, I just think there's opportunities. Yeah, Houston does. But, well, no, what's nice is the Tennessee secondary doesn't scare me, which means more scoring. Yeah, I mean, for the Tennessee Titans. For the record, Matthews, 9 for 114 and a touchdown against Houston this year. So, um, let's move on to Golden Tate. Ha ha! I was right, everyone.

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It took a while for that to happen. Do you realize how close to an evil villain you are? When you win, you are like Captain Hook. And then when I lose, I smash your trophy. Right. That's actually true. In fairness, I broke the trophy early on into my reign. And I had a broken trophy. And you kept it a secret. You also need to get the new winners engraving on there. I am. Okay. Don't you worry about it?

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When will he have it? Golden Tate. A couple years. Golden Tate. I said early in the season or in the pre-season draft, I was wrong. I said he was a lock for 100 receptions. Give me his back half of the year too. I'm curious what he's right. He will look that up. He finished with 91, which is certainly something you're happy. 91. Yeah. In general, just the number.

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He finished with 91 receptions. I was saying he was a lock for 100 receptions. He changed his number to 91. And so you're happy with 91 receptions. The reason that you're not happy with Golden Tate, obviously, is the beginning month. That first month of the season, it was Marvin Jones. Seven, five, two, six. Yeah, Golden Tate did absolutely nothing. So from week six on, he was pretty on fire. Yeah, week six, I'll take a look at this. You had...

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Over six receptions for the last five weeks of the year. You had an 11 reception week. So from week five... All right. Give me your guesses. Week six on. Half point PPR. Week six on half point PPR. I'm going to put him at wide receiver 11. I'm going to go number eight. You nailed it. Yeah. He's wide receiver number eight. Consistency wise, though, because of that, he ended up as 24 in standard 34 in PPR. But...

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From week six on, he was on fire. He played better against top 16 defenses. He was involved in the offense in a different way once they lost Amir Abdullah and Theo Riddick. So I think we need to be very careful about Golden Tate because with Riddick, Abdullah, and Ebron back, I just don't know how they're going to use him. I can agree with that, but I still want Golden Tate on my team. Do you want more or less than Richard Matthews next year?

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That's a great question. Man, I would say more. I think I would as well. If I'm in any kind of PPR scoring format, I would take Golden Tate, just because I think that the first month was an outlier. I think there was something wrong that they didn't talk about. Exactly. We have a lot of history. You've got three years of high production, high volume receiving totals with him and Matthew Stafford. So that first month, clearly now in hindsight, was the outlier.

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the second half of the year isn't the outlier when he did it the year before and did it the year before. All right. So I want to get into some late, uh, some early ADP guys that finished outside the top 25. So I'm going to quickly go through 20 through 24 here and just give you their end of season ranking and then their consistency ranking. Oh man. There's a really, really good wide receiver here coming up. Terrell Pryor finished number 20, number 13 in consistency rankings. Emmanuel Sanders was the number 21 receiver.

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Really bad consistency. 45th in the league had six. He had explosive games. Yeah, and six non-top 40. He was the bazooka. That didn't used to be Sanders' MO. His MO was more consistency. So he was troubled. Tyreek Hill ended up the 22nd ranked wide out ended up even higher on consistency rankings. He just gets involved. Here he comes. Mike Wallace. Oh, look at that.

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Is that his real numbers? Yeah, 23rd. 72 for 1,000 years and 4. We just talked about this. I wasn't making up a number. They throw the ball more than anybody in the league. That's why. That's why. 34th ranked consistency, terrible. Just a terrible rider's true.

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Of course he fed on bottom 16 defenses, more yardage and more fantasy points. It doesn't show up for big games. Barely. Eight more yards. And yet all of those numbers. You're on my hit list, Mike. All of those numbers still better than the 24th ranked wide receiver. Kelvin Benjamin. Can't stand you. Can't stand you. Mike Wallace. Kelvin Benjamin, 24th ranked 37th ranked consistency. Goodness, I don't know what's going to happen to him next year. Calvin Benjamin's draft position.

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You're going to draft him and you're going to wince while you do it because you just so many question marks. His consistency stunk. Does Cam Newton bounce back? What does that offense look like? Blah, blah, blah. That's the story. All right. I want to get into a few. Wow. Okay. Jameson Crowder ended up 30th. 30th? And yet he was the 15th most consistent. Jameson Crowder, I'm glad you brought him up. I was hoping we talked about him. He is.

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the type of guy we talk about those wide receiver twos. And you could have gotten James and Crowder. Even next year, you'll be able to get James Crowder late. And as a wide receiver two, or even depending on how late you get him, is your wide receiver three, I think he's going to be great next year. He just bombed. I don't know. I don't know. He bombed the end of the year to hurt his ranking. He was very consistent. But Josh Doxon comes back.

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The entire Washington offense is going to look different. You don't know what's going to happen with Deshaun Jackson. He's a free agent. Pierre Garson, I believe, is also a free agent. And so if they move on to the next generation, I like Crowder quite a bit. When I watch film, forget the numbers. He's like Landry. He looks like a go-to guy, strong hands, can make a move after the catch, has a nose for the end zone. You get him down near there. It's one of those guys where it's like if he catches the ball.

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Around the five-yard line, it's hard to get him out of the end zone. Here's a story for you. Number 29 on the rankings this year is DeAndre Hopkins. Obviously, he was drafted. Look, his ADP in PPR Leagues was five. Oh. Get this. How many top five performances this year? I highlighted in blue on your document. I see it. It should be highlighted in Puk Green because it's zero. Zero top five performances. Five top 25 performances.

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Wait, what are you sent in me? Hold on. According to Ian Rappaport, the new logo for the LA Chargers. Oh, my goodness. Strikingly like Los Angeles Dodgers. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Everybody, everybody listening on the podcast, can you see that logo? This is a good, good radio. Have you ever seen the letter L? A and they're like a lightning bolt. Just the Harry Pottered the L and the A. That is very Harry Potter. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Very much. All right.

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DeAndre Hopkins. Cool story, bro. I think the story will be an expectation for a bounce back next year. I think people are going to overdraft DeAndre Hopkins next year. Where do you think he goes then? He's an elite town. He finished 29th. Where does he go in terms of wide receivers? I think he is going to be drafted around wide receiver 15. Yeah, there's no doubt. There's no way he's going to be on that. And I can't see him being a wide receiver one with the quarterback situation there.

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As we finish out this episode, Hopkins or Alan Robinson? Because Alan Robinson finished 25th. Oof. Next year, I'm definitely drafting Alan Robinson over DeAndre Hopkins. Why? Why definitely? For a multitude of reasons. One, we have seen him. Teenage Mutant Ninja Bortles over there. We have seen Alan Robinson have a great elite.

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wide receiver year with the quarterback that he still has. Okay. So we know Blake Bortles and Alan Robinson can get it done. We also saw. They have the same amount of targets, by the way, 151 each. Disappointing with 151 target. Yeah, we also saw.

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You know, after the coaching change, after Gus Bradley left and they started moving Alan Robinson around the formation, he had some good games. And there was no, there's no lack of talent for either of those guys. I agree with you. I agree. I agree. I just ask him. Are both great wide receivers. The question is, which team can get them the ball? Bortles allegedly had the separated shoulder. You saw his mechanics completely fall apart. So it would.

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that at least matches. The stories match. Maybe he can clean things up. You have the general Tom Coughlin coming into town. Not as the coach. I know, but he's still going to be there with his frostbitten face. The grandpappy. Yeah. Look, he is, you want to talk about a general, a war general who comes in. You're like, oh, better took him a shirt. He knows. He was in the day that they had bazookas.

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Breaking news. It's not breaking to me, but it's got to be breaking to you guys. Did you hear the very exciting news? Do you tell? Hold on. Hold on. The Gus bus. It's going to land. Buffalo? Possibly in Washington. Oh, Washington. As a new defensive coordinator of Washington. Love it. I'm holding out hope, guys. Oh, I love it. He's just not a head coach. I agree with you. Just like I don't think Mike McCoy is either.

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I think Mike McCoy is sliding right back into where he belongs. He's like Ken Wisenhunt. He's a fine offensive coordinator and a horrendous, horrific debacle of a head coach. Not bitter at all from our cardinal years, are we? He took us to a Super Bowl. It's not just the Cardinal. No, I was talking about Kerr Warner. Kurt Warner brought us to the Super Bowl. All right. That's it for today's show. Good luck this weekend. We have four awesome games. This is my favorite weekend of the...

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The divisional round? Yeah, divisional round. You still have four games. It's going to be beautiful. Have some fun. Hopefully you're enjoying the show. Leave us a review on iTunes if you want to. What is it? Please, if you think so. Also, go to fantasy jocks.com if you want a championship. Thanks for noticing me. You get that trophy fixed. Goodbye, everybody.

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