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Early Sleepers & Values - Fantasy Football Podcast

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This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Every football fan is different. Some won't wash their lucky mustard-stained jersey until the season's over. Some insist they can't sit down on third downs and some pick their favorite team because, I don't know, just like football fandom, nobody's life is exactly the same. And that's why State Farm gets to know you, not as a policy number, but as an actual person.

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so they can help personalize a coverage plan that's just for you. Whether it's game day or just another Tuesday, State Farm has you covered. This is the story of the one. As a shipping manager, he's running the dock, stocking supplies, and making sure every order goes out on time. And Granger helps him stay prepared. From shipping supplies to PPE to hand tools, he counts on Granger to keep products moving and trucks rolling. So his operation runs smoothly.

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No matter the shift. Call 1-800 Granger. Click Granger. Or just stop by, Granger, for the ones who get it done. As well, I was on the second, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers podcast. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, welcome in Tuesday.

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June 23rd, the fantasy footballers back with you. Mike Wright here in studio. Yes. With me, Andy Holloway. And then the best. remotely joining us this fine day. Jason Moore. Howdy. We, with the howdy. We, as you know, can only take so much of Jason on a regular.

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you know, week to week basis. So from time to time, we ask him to just record remotely for... Just go away. Well, we... You're only human. That's what we want, but we don't always say it like that. Yeah. You guys are really kind-hearted and just better people, so than me. And I'm happy to be where I am still allowed to participate from a distance.

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Yeah. From a distance is kind of our... Has the phrase from a distance ever been spoken without immediately thinking? Nope. It's impossible. Welcome into the show. Who sings that? I don't even know. Is it Bett Midler? I don't know. Is it Midler? I don't know. Is it Midler? I don't know. Is it Midler? It's Bet Midler. We have to get to the bottom of this. It is. It is. That's the official music video.

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From a distance, there is harmony. From a distance. And it echoes through the land, Mike. Yes, it does. We need that song right now. We need that anthem. The world. We need that anthem. It's the voice of hope. It's the voice of peace. It's the voice of every man. I was like that is from a distance, and we need to keep our distance right now. That song is perfect. Bet Midler, thank you for being timeless. Oof, a profit. Bet Midler. Can we go back to when Bet Midler was the jam?

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When she was a Sanderson sister? She was the air beneath my wings. I know that. She was the air beneath Jason's wings. Yeah. Okay. Not the start I expected. We have sleepers and values on this show today. We have some news we have to get into, some of which breaks my heart to have to talk about. We have the Ultimate Draft Kit now available at Ultimate DraftKit.com. Head over there. Check it out.

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Dollar from every UDK going to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital once again this year. We've had to make some adjustments. I say the UDK saw its first real, real-time update, which came because of an unfortunate circumstance. We've got an injury to talk about on the show. Yeah, we had to make some Delvin Cook tweaks, some risk tweaks last week as well.

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You can find the show on YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballer. Subscribe, click the bell. Appreciate everybody who supports the show by reviewing on Apple Podcast, listening on Spotify, ad free on Stitcher Premium. Wherever you're listening, we appreciate you. Quick question of the day. Comes in from Tom in Ohio. Jason, he wants to know, why is Aaron Jones ranked so high? With.

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The Packers drafting A.J. Dillon in the second round. He's our consensus running back six right now. I have him at nine, Jason at nine, Mike at six. Last year, over a thousand yards, I believe he had about 75 touchdowns, right? Yeah, give or take a few. So why is he ranked so high? What is your answer to this question from Tom? Well, I mean, look, we all, everyone here knows that Aaron Jones is going to have touchdown regression. And by everyone here, I mean, everyone here,

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on the planet. You had 16 rushing touchdowns. I thought you meant everyone at your house. Sorry. He had 16 rushing touchdowns, added another three through the air. That's not going to happen. He was the running back, depending on scoring for him, I think two or three last year. And so, you know, we know that's not going to happen. But sometimes those negative arguments make you feel like, well, he's.

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He's no good. He's great. He's actually a really, really good running back. You know, there's a reason he ran for 4.6 to carry and was highly effective in the red zone. And, you know, he's a very good running back. He's still the clear lead. And I view A.J. Dylan. Almost 500 receiving yards, too. Yeah. I view A.J. Dylan as more of a threat to Jamal Williams. Now, he will eat in a little bit to Aaron Jones. And I think all three will be more involved than fantasy football owners would.

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prefer, but at the same time, you know, I have Aaron Jones going from 236 carries last season down to 216. So I've got him losing 20 carries, half the touchdowns that he had from the year before. But that's still a really, really good number. I mean, that still puts him in my top 10.

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I do worry about consistency. He was very much not a consistent running back last year. There were certain games he would disappear from. But at the end of the season, I think he's going to be, you know, certainly a top 15 running back. And that's not outlandish considering he was, you know, top three running back last year. Yeah, two comments that I would add. One, Aaron Jones ranking is also based on our confidence in other running backs in the NFL. I mean, his ranking is...

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kind of corollary to whether other running backs can step up and be more valuable for your fantasy team. My second comment is that what a sad place to be in where last year it's like, oh man, if Aaron Jones ever got enough work, he would dominate. Oh man, Aaron Jones dominated. Let's lower him because he dominated too much. Right. He's a great running back and he also, he caught 49 passes. He's still going to be involved in the receiving game as well.

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Even with A.J. Dillon coming in, Aaron Jones is still the leader of the running back room. A.J. Dillon doesn't come in and take that away from him. So he's still a top option to me. We're giving away a jersey of his teammate, Devante Adams, at footclang giveaway.com. If you want to check that out, let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Dibo. Samuel suffered a broken left foot during a workout with teammates on Tuesday.

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of last week he'll be sidelined three to four months. Debo suffered a Jones fracture. That's an 8 to 12 week recovery timeline. I've seen 12 to 16 out there as well. I've seen both timelines given for this injury. It seems that the 8 to 12 is a little bit more common for wide receivers, which is good. But that puts it, like if it's 12 weeks,

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From the day he had surgery, 12 weeks is the exact day of the kickoff of the NFL season. So that's the idea of the timeline is, is, you know, he could be ready for week one if he misses everything leading up to week one. Yeah, I mean, you have to make adjustments to your view of Depot. I mean, he's a...

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He was a breakout candidate for us statistically. Emmanuel Sanders left, Debo coming into year two. The way they use him, you know, he is a running back as well. He is a screen game player. And here he is with an injury that affects your explosiveness. It takes a long time to recover from. And that has a 15 to 20 percent risk of a second injury, you know, a second surgery that could cause.

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problems to his dynasty value that could cause problems to his explosiveness coming back. This is just altogether unfortunate news. Yep. And so now what do we do moving forward? He was projected to be the number one wide receiver for the 49ers. In my projections, I went in. I think I took away one to two games, which isn't a lot. So it's not like he's completely off your draft board now. There's going to be a spot where he,

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becomes a value, even though he has a much higher risk rating. What did you guys do in terms of filling in those gaps? Who got a bump for San Francisco? Yeah. I mean, I think we'll talk about Brandon Ayuk. Ayukin. But I don't think that when you have a rookie coming in and the window of opportunity is these first few weeks of the season, I believe the team is just going to distribute the ball.

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across a number of options, including the return of Jalen Heard this year, including Trent Taylor's return, who they talk up every offseason who always is hurt, but he's currently healthy, and including the guys like Kendrick Bourne and ultimately the number one true wide receiver on the team is George Kittle. Oh, right, oh, come on. I was trying to get you to say his name. I will never speak that name. If you think I'm speaking, he who shall not be named. Come on. Petit.

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Dante Pettus, baby, let's go. Petty season? Hey, he's there. He's ready. So put me in, coach. No, I agree. I'm with Andy when I redistributed. I took two games away from Debo because I think that that's accurate in the sense that even if he comes back week one, this injury in the first year and specifically immediately following the return, you have a long history of a lack of production up to 50%.

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So if he's out there week one, he's not going to be in my lineup week one coming off of this injury. So I took two games away, but it got redistributed to where nobody really is the clear beneficiary. It's everyone gets a few more targets over the course of the season. Didn't change my rankings all that much. Jimmy Gropolo lost a little bit here. But it's sad. It's sad for a guy who Andy was.

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you know, probably going to have as my guy, but it is worth noting and realizing with this injury that, you know, sometimes it takes these moments to make us look backwards and see. I was going to give a shout out to Jared Smola's tweet here. Is that what you were going for? Absolutely. You do it. Well, you know, just a few days before this injury, Jared Smola on Twitter at Smola DS.

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Debo Samuel's injury history remains concerning. 2015, missed seven games with a hamstring. 2016, three games with a hamstring. 2017, 10 games of the broken leg. 2018, he was healthy. Last year, the numbers he put up. That was in 15 games. He missed mini camp with a hip injury. He missed week seven with a groin injury. Had a shoulder injury in November. And now he has a Jones fracture. So, you know.

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this is something to concern you in the dynasty projections for Debo Samuel to have year after year of injury. Well, and let's say, I mean, because of this injury history and the specific injury, look at a dynasty outlook that starts like this. He comes back, plays for, you know, a good portion of the season, but he's not that valuable this year. His production is down. And then he is then the 20% re-injures it, has to get surgery again. You know, you could be talking about, you know,

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a two-year window before you really get the guy that broke out as a man. Do I get a hit at one more? Can I hit it one more time? Yeah. In homage? Sure. I feel like it needs to. Now you're a man. He's like a sad distortion to it. That's the last time we'll get a play for a while. But just for the ranking's sake, I think I had him at 17 or 18 before the injury. He's sitting around 2930 right now. There is additional risk to him.

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And he was a player that was going to need to put up numbers not just in the passing game. This was not a high passing volume type of team. So it's just unfortunate. It's part of every offseason. We never know who it's going to be. But now it's a man. I have Debo at 33 now. There you go.

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