Fantasy Football 2017 - Title Talk, Studs & Duds, Week 17 Waivers

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It is December 26th. We hope you had a wonderful holiday with the family. I know I did. And I'm excited. This show is jam-packed today. We're going to probably bounce around a little bit and muse on all the things that have happened. We'll have studs and duds. We'll have rising stars. We'll have some Week 17 waiver talk and QB streamers. I'm going to start, though, with that hashtag Foot Clan title discussion. Tweet it out.

There are many of us that, you know, are many of you out there that, you know, you want to know a lay of the land. What happened in our various leagues? Mike, who? Mike and I took, took each other on in the Dynasty League championship match. Yes, we did. And my team did not show up between, let's see, I got to do a little, some quick math calculations here. Des Bryant.

Evan Engram and Michael Crabtree combined gave me 5.6 points. Which would be what, like 1, 8th of what Todd Gurley put up? Yeah, it was, I mean, I had some excellent performances. I went with the heart of stone. I played Mike Gillisley successfully. Over Carlos Hyde. Yeah, Carlos Hyde ended up being better because apparently. Unsuccessfully. Well, but, you know, double-digit points. Sure, sure. That's what you want from a flex. I play Gilly.

And but those three guys, they absolutely buried me. And I'm a loser. Todd Gurley. Todd, God Gurley and the Tennessee Titans, I don't know what the crap was going on with that defense, but they forgot that Todd Gurley can catch a football. Todd Gurley, I think you said it this morning, he put up, I think the all-time highest points in fantasy championship weeks, or playoff, fantasy playoff weeks.

It is a wonderful feeling. I've seen a lot of people on Twitter that won on the back of Gurley. Obviously, I feel great because I backed Gurley throughout the year, and I even put my money where my mouth was, traded everything to get him in the Dynasty League. And I have seen a lot of people reach out, you know, Mike, and give you a hard time a little bit. And there is something you forgot about from earlier in the year. What did I forget about? So I just want to remind you that you owe the people something. And I'm going to...

Take us back in time for just to make it. Oh. But my concern with Todd Gurley is, I mean, everyone is super pumped now. And next week, he gets Dallas. That's a good match. That's another good matchup. But after that. Seattle, Arizona. It goes Seahawks, Jaguars, Cardinals, Giants, Texans, Vikings. That is six of the top 10 defenses right in a row. So while I'm, I've been on board for Todd Gurley in these matchups.

But here, the, that's the big, uh, like stamp. The rub. Yeah, where the rubber meets the road. I was trying to avoid a cliche. But when he starts playing those defenses and everyone's like, yeah, you should have apologized for Gurley. If he crushes in those games, that's when I would issue the apology. Oh. Oh. Hit the, hit the music then. Let's get it over with. Todd Gurley. My friend.

My new friend. Yet my old friend. I loved you coming out of college. Very much. There was the big Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon debate, and I was ferociously on the side of Todd Gurley. Jeff Fisher ruined everything. Everything. He ruined my reputation. He ruined my sentiments of you, Todd Gurley, because last year it looked really bad.

And this year, I believe you should be the MVP of the NFL because you have carried the Los Angeles Rams into the playoffs. No one else has affected a team so much as Todd Gurley. And you are the fantasy MVP. I am truly sorry, Todd Gurley. I appreciate it. It feels like, you know, that puts a bow on this season. I give you credit this morning. I mean, you.

You heard it there in the clip. That was an early clip this year. And the beginning part of the clip that I didn't play was where you actually had Gurley that week ranked one spot higher than I did and than Jason did. So you were never stubborn about Todd Gurley's success. You just simply questioned the ability for that offense, the offensive line, the new head coach, to do what they've done this year? Where Gurley now has, what, 18 touchdowns on the year? I think he should be the MVP. I think Brady will probably win it.

I think it should be a travesty if Tom Brady won the MVP this year. But on top of that, another point when we talk about don't over-emphasize the fantasy playoffs. The schedule. I mean, I fell victim to it as well because Philly and Seattle looked like really, really bad matchups. And of course, Seattle suffered a multitude of injuries. Not that I think Todd Gurley, maybe he dominates them.

if they're healthy, but things change very, very quickly in the NFL. That's true. Todd Gurley is king this year. Now, I want to focus now on a different championship. And that would be Jason. Jason managed against all odds on this earth. I don't know how it happened. We joke about magic. Christmas magic. But everybody out there should be really, really thankful because Jason...

has managed to win the listener league two years in a row. And that means that 11 spots will be open for listeners next year. Normally if a listener wins that league, they are invited back the next year. But Jason has squashed that. That's right. And you actually called for the people. You actually called the loser. I called Brian on the phone. He has been asking, nay, begging for me to call him this season. I said no.

But you figured you'd be calling to concede because your team was as awful as it can possibly be. Absolutely. It was a hot pile of steamy garbage. And I lost Alfred Morris and Hunter Henry and Antonio Brown. And I called my shot. I said I was going to play strong defense. Yeah. And a little bit of magic. And I was going to win with about 75 points. For the people. Unreal. Sorry, Brian. Unreal. So congrats to you, Jason. Your loser trophy is in the mail.

You definitely need to send him one. All right, you can follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers. The website is to Fantasy Footballers.com. And a reminder, this is a year-long show. So we will be here not just through Week 17, but on into the new year. We'll bring out the truth episodes where we will tell you the truth.

about the rankings and where people ended up in 2017, who you can trust going into 2018, who will be free agents, who will be interesting dynasty pickups. We'll even be mentioning a couple of those guys on the Rising Stars part of today's show, but a lot is coming in January and February. Honestly, it's just plain fun. And don't forget, the footies. Oh, my goodness. I mean, that's up next week. Yes.

Very, very. World renown. I have a feeling Todd Gurley's trophy mantle will be full of. A footies? Full of footies. Nothing he would be more proud of. Stockings on a. We need to have him back on the show. But with a, I was going to say with like a better cell phone than whatever he used last time. He was calling from a foot. He should be able to afford it. He was on Max's foot phone from Get Smart. We normally have a.

NFL players give us an intro when we have them on the show. They give us an intro for the beginning of the podcast. We got David Johnson, Alan Robinson, and those guys. And we tried to get Gurley to do that. And what did it sound like? Yeah, we haven't been able to use that one. All right. Don't forget Shotballers.com. You can get that Foot Clan title t-shirt. I want to talk news. News and notes from around the league. All right.

Anthony Lynn said that Melvin Gordon's left foot is in a walking boot after sustaining an ankle injury. Uh-oh. That's going to hurt the playoff hopes of the Los Angeles Chargers. Yes, certainly will. Joe Mixon left with an ankle injury and he left early once again. This is a second time in about four weeks that he really hurt fantasy owners. He was my start of the week.

Got in the game. What are you going to do, man? The guy gets hurt. And then he goes down. In fairness, you did say your start of the week was either him or Gio. The problem is that he was active. So he probably started mixing. Which, and Gio had a monster game. I say Gio's success. All the Joe Mixing owners are looking at what Bernard was able to do in that matchup going, oh, man. I know. What could have been for Joe? Samage P. Ryan exited within Achilles injury. Capri Bibbs will be on the week 17 waiver. He's coming in hot. Pickups.

So I think Shepard suffered a neck injury in Week 16 against Arizona. I had been off of him. That morning I answered a bunch of questions and most of the time didn't choose Shepard just because of Patrick Peterson, Cardinals' defense, how it's played. And this is unfortunately. He'd been dealing with some migraines. Now he's got a neck injury. We don't know much more. Evan Ingram, you're left with a rib injury. He let you down in the fancy playoffs. Nothing he could do about it. So just for some context here of

my matchups with Andy. We played twice, and I was defeated twice by Andy. But in those two matchups, top five fantasy tied on Evan Engram, those two matchups combined give me 1.7 points. I mean, Andy's defense on Evan Engram is unparalleled. I had a meeting with the guys, and I said, look, guard the middle of the field, put an extra man on him, and then hurt his ribs. Ridiculous. And they did. I think it was the ribs part that really worked out.

the best well it was like you know fantasy owners they go through so much but mike's only hopes were for ingram and des in those afternoon games to have big games and within about five minutes ingram is like wincing on every play and des is constantly going to the sideline and it's like that's not fair no no it's it's not uh demarko murray sprained as me another MRI coming today that you know henry

We did it, everybody. This is Derek Henry Week. Yeah, when you don't need it. Travarez Cadet out for the season, dislocated ankle. That's unfortunate. It was rough. He actually had looked pretty good behind Lishon McCoy. And then there was some news that broke this morning. This is not definitive. My confidence in this report is not 100%. But there was a report by Pro Football Weekly that Bruce Ariens and the Cardinals are agreeing to part ways after the year. Won't shock me at all. If...