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Jason and Mike face each other in the League of Record semifinal while Andy still hopes neither wins. Jeremy reminds Andy that Jeremy took the prior championship, says the trophy is beside him, and reports saving video of Jason hyperventilating over an Etienne touchdown. Direct published frames show only the host desk, so the trophy and reaction video are reported rather than displayed.
Mike keeps DK Metcalf in his playoff lineup despite the player's three-target disappointment. The hosts say DK is universally known as Mike's guy and rename the attachment D.K. Mikeath and D.K. Mike Cap.
The hosts compare Philip Rivers's return at 44 to giving a grandfather a dirt bike, filming the jump, and taking him to the hospital. The imagined title is 'I'm Philip Rivers. This is playing the NFL 44. Welcome to Jackass.'
After the hosts condemn the Cardinals, Jets, and Raiders, Kyle is credited with requesting one more entry: 'Falcons, you suck.'
The phrase 'all options are on the table' produces a hypothetical sequence of cutting off Rome Odunze's foot, popping off a toe, and possibly putting him down before the hosts remove those options. Published frames show ordinary desk conversation, not a visible or enacted punishment.
The desk complains that illegal hip-drop tackles go uncalled while formation alignment by two inches is aggressively enforced, then voices an officiating sheriff who says he is running the show and keeping everyone safe.
When playoff lineups are mostly set, the hosts advise taking the best player or defense an opponent needs and name the tactic 'block it like it's hot.'
Before naming Jalen Coker, the hosts twice insist that Jeremy is not allowed to say the player's name.
After Sean McVay's new baby is corrected from a family problem to a personal matter, Jason says he has three personal problems at home. The conversation then describes Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews as farting into a can, smelling it, and passing it around with a fake popcorn question.
A host hits the wrong button, tries the Full Stream Ahead cue over it, and cannot make the result stop. The desk calls it 'A-class production'; Mike eventually ends it and is called boring. Direct published-frame review confirms the segment's train graphic appears during the failure.
Audric Estime is labeled a big body back—'a Triple B'—before one host anticipates another's Estime pun and blocks it, which the desk calls getting Matumboed.
The hosts joke that Tyler Shough played college football for sixty years because injuries and COVID gave him redshirts, a blue shirt, and every shirt he could wear.
All three hosts are present while Jason and Mike approach a League of Record semifinal against each other. Producer Jeremy reminds Andy that Jeremy won the previous championship and says the trophy is beside him, then reports owning a video of Jason hyperventilating over an Etienne touchdown; a direct review of the published frames around the exchange shows only the three-host desk, so Jeremy, the trophy, and the saved reaction video are dialogue-reported rather than visually presented. Mike's DK Metcalf dependence becomes D.K. Mikeath and D.K. Mike Cap. The desk imagines 44-year-old Philip Rivers playing Monday Night Football as a grandpa on a dirt bike in Jackass, adds Kyle's Falcons to a roll call of teams that suck, and turns uncalled hip-drop tackles plus obsessively enforced formations into a field sheriff. Late-waiver defense becomes the new cue 'block it like it's hot.' Jeremy is prohibited from pronouncing Jalen Coker. Sean McVay's new baby becomes three 'personal problems' at Jason's home, then Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely are described as farting into a can and passing it around for everyone to smell. Full Stream Ahead closes with the wrong button, overlapping audio, an inability to stop it, a visible published train graphic, and praise for 'A-class production.'
to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Tuesday. Check Tuesday. December 16th. Week one of the playoffs in the books, officially. Or unless you check your sleeper. Oh, right, yeah. Then wait until Thursday? I don't know when they do it. They're like Santa. They check it twice. Okay. They want to make sure the scores are nice. Can we put a protocol in the program that says if someone has won by five or more points, we're good. Yeah. We're moving on. No. No, you know. I mean, I guess we're developers. You already know this. The five or more would also be in the range of.
problems for the Woody Marks touchdown. They're either running the script or they're not, Mike. We know that. That's going to apply to everybody. I just want to see the matchup. Did they do anything? Anything happen to Woody Marks? I have not heard. Yeah, I doubt it. Yeah, I doubt it. League by league. Yeah, I'm excited. We'll talk waiver wire today. We'll talk some NFL news. Undoubtedly, we'll talk about Jason and Mike's head-to-head matchup in the semifinals of our League of Record. Last year, it was fun. This year not as fun. For you? Well, yeah, for me. I just meant like last year it was me and Al, and we were doing a lot of talking trash. That's very selfish. Oh, yeah. As I, when it was you two, and I was just, I mean, road, roadkill. My team was garbage. Yeah, you were. I enjoyed it very much. You know, it's a bit. Oh, okay. It's a bit. I'm glad you guys are facing off. It'll be fun to, uh,
I mean, it would be fun to see if we have three people to host a show on next week. I mean, at least for you. There's a decent chance that I can make. Like my equity share goes out. Yeah, 50% at least for you, Andy. We're not right now meeting in the championship. Like one of us is guaranteed to get to the championship. Right. But if we were meeting like you and out in the championship, then you would have no choice but to look at a champ across the table. There's still hope for you that one of us won't win. Yeah.
No, that'd be good. But the downside there is... Jeremy wants us to remind new listeners how it worked out last year, the championship. Jeremy, how did it work? I was going to let Andy take that one. No, no, I didn't know. I didn't defend my title. You're right. I didn't win back to back. That's the point. Somebody else won. I got this beautiful trophy sitting right here next to me. I don't remember who it was, but I didn't win. I remember. I also know that you and I will be... We got some great draft picks this year, buddy. And sitting in there on Sunday and watching Jason. Oh, hyperventilate. I think I have a video of one of the ETN touchdowns. I'll have to share that one. Yeah, social media team. Make sure you get with me on that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you have a hat. I think it was. I don't know if you have a hat on. So I don't know that that one is going to get authorized. The man one too where it was like how in the world that score on that. You gave a Philip Rivers.
fist pump nice and you were very excited but um but i was so relieved like philip rivers after the fist pump yeah i was still relieved on sunday i was just sitting back relaxing yeah not a cat in all cool but we got we got a lot to talk about we had the steelers dominate the dolphins um cold weather is undefeated against the dolphins Yeah, they, you know, Devon H. had a nice game despite not scoring. Darren Waller, two touchdown. Go, go, go, go, go. I mean, that's a big deal. Anybody know who he plays next week? Is it the Cincinnati Bengals? Hell that's the Baltimore Ravens, Jason. Hey. So you played, now you won, but you didn't play Waller. I did not play. So that would have been another, like if you had lost, that would have been another thing that would have felt real, real bad. Haunted you. Yeah.
But you didn't. You didn't lose. Aaron Rogers, two touchdowns played well, 23 for 27. Kenneth Gainwell, you know, you had Jalen Warren report that he was sick. Warren did just enough to beat Jason. But not enough to make any fantasy manager happy because Kenneth Gainwell, seven receptions for 46 yards. Kenny Gainwell. 13 for 80. He's been playing so well. Yeah, he really has the Steelers do often feel lately it's hot hand. And the hotter hand has been. Kenneth Gainwell. Now Warren can sneak in a touchdown every once in a while, but like Warren Warren's shaping up to be a scarier start to me in the next round of the playoffs. Oh, you had Waller and Pitts on your bench and Dynasty? Yeah, yeah. And how much you lose by? What? I lost by.
two, three, four points, something like that. I lost by less, yes. In the league I lost, I definitely. Look at Mike's face. Man, I didn't know you had Waller as well. And honestly, if you were just throwing a dart at the wall, you would have hit a tight end that won you the game. No, because I, Waller would have been my fourth pick this week because I was Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely. Oh, man. Oh, they played who? The Cincinnati Bengals. That's who Waller's going to dominate next week? I don't believe that Tua only completes eight passes next week. That's just my guess. Well, he completed 22 in this game. Yeah, I'm talking about Lamar Jackson who only completed eight passes. I got you. Yeah, I mean, I'll be watching. I mean, that'd be fun. That felt it's a weird game. I mean, what, we hit, what, 43 points and it felt like.
It was basically a 28-0 shut out. No one was great. Yeah. I mean, D.K. Metcalf started the week got in the end zone on a on a great touchdown. Amazing touchdown where he just threw them around like children. Yeah. That was a really cool play. And it makes you, when you see that play, you think to yourself like, why don't you just use him more? Like. Like that play was borderline his entire fantasy day. Help me out with this exercise. Three targets for D.K. Three targets? I was kind of doing this mental exercise yesterday, and I didn't go into all the numbers, so I don't know if it's true. But just tell me if you have the same perception. To me, all Steelers' quarterbacks since Big Ben are the same player. Okay. That's the thesis. Yeah. Okay. So whether it's Russell Wilson or Mason Rudolph, Aaron Rogers, Kenny Pickett, even Justin Fields, I think they're all the same player.
And I think that comes down to basically the Steelers' offense. Yeah. Because they don't, like, you don't really take advantage of anybody's special ability if you are trying so hard to work Johnny Smith into the offense. Yeah, I mean, and it's funny, too, because you can. Guys, I'm telling you, it's going to work. You can make the argument. He had a rushing touchdown. You can make the argument, which I think is fair that they don't and have not had a great core of wide receivers. But then you can also make the argument. You've got D.K. McK., and you just had George Pickens. Yeah, you had enough. You could do more with them. Yeah. Yeah. This is what, like I said, last week, they were playing a team. The Steelers were playing a team that you couldn't throw to the tight end, and all of a sudden they threw to D.K. This week, you can use tight ends, and all the tight ends were like, I'll get a touchdown. Well, also, Connor Hayward, hopefully you played him.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was a, it was a huge bummer. Honestly, the DK Metcalf, that was my biggest takeaway of the week prior. It looked like something was unlocked. Air yards galore, you know, just crushing in the passing game and they're using DK Metcalf. And to come back and have the three targets was a big. And they, and they won. Yeah. So it's like they're not going to change their ways. I'm not that discouraged by it because this game was just a whooping. I mean, this game was a defensive dominated game. You're 27 pass attempts. So if they need to throw, I think they're still. Detroit next week. I mean, Detroit's got everything on the line. Pittsburgh's got everything on the line. So that's more, I think that game, we got some more optimism, hope. I don't like that. Why don't you like that? Mike's got D.K. McCaff.
I think that's a very good matchup for him. Is he in your lineup? You should put him in. He is in my lineup. Fantastic. My final pick will be between Jalen Warren and D.K. Metcalfe. So as of right now, it's D.K. Metcalfe. But, come on. Hopefully the Foot Clan out there. When is D.K. Metcalf ever let me down this year. D.K. Mikeath. Yeah. D. D.K. Metcalf is your guy. I mean, everybody knows it. If I win a title, he is. Footlan, if you're listening for the first time, it's Mike's guy. D. D. D. D.K. Mike Cap. Let's talk some news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Patrick Mahomes will or already underwent surgery to repair. It got worse. His ACL and his LCL. I think the general opinion is that it complicates the recovery, but not the timeline is what I've been reading. Yeah, we, uh, Betts, Matthew Betts are injury guy.
Also on the Dynasty, DFS, Sharp Guy, certified PT. He talked about the recovery. Mahomes could still be ready by week one, but you should expect a brace on the leg and that juice we were getting from Patrick Mahomes running this year. He was on pace for 500. Whoa, you're right? 500 throat clears. I'm getting emotional thinking about our matchup. He was on pace for 532 rushing. Yeah, expect that to go away. Carson Wentz, if you recall back in week 14 of 2017, had a very similar injury. Now, Wentz, I believe, had a little meniscus damage. We haven't got a report on that on Mahomes yet. We don't know. But Carson Wentz missed two games to start the next year. Commanders officially shutting down Jaden Daniels for the rest of the season that left elbow. They wanted to recover. Yeah, it's the right move. The Bengals said, or head coach Zach Taylor said Joe Burrow will start for the rest of the year because, quote, they want to win? Did Joe Burrow?
agree he's a sad boy i i think i think joe burrow is an interesting discussion at this point yes not not for not just for this week i mean obviously him starting the rest of the year not being shut down probably probably good um maybe maybe the joe flacco world is better but listen since he lost in the a fc title game or a fc playoffs to mahomes the year after he went to the super bowl he is something like 17 and 15 in his starts games that he started. To Otung of Iloa has a better record in games started for Miami since that time. That is gross. Yeah. And Joe Burrow... Get this man of defense. Well, see, there it is. There it is. Or always... Or just an offensive line defense. You did give him the best two wide receivers in the game of football. And he did throw for 5,000 yards and 43 touchdowns. So, I mean...
But the wins. The wins are what matter. And when, you know, if you look at what Josh Allen has figured out without some of those things at different times in his career, I think the winners win. So, I mean, at some point it falls, it falls on him. Did you see the video, like, Burrow talking about this particular loss? Yeah. So rewind, you know, you had the video that kind of took the internet by storm of a very melancholy Joe Burrow kind of talk. Just. The filter went off and it's like, man, Joe Burrow is, he's either having a really, really bad day or like this guy's having a really tough time right now just with everything the next goal going on with the season. He literally said that lost season. Why do this if it's not fun anymore? And, you know, people, the follow-up question. This was earlier, not post-game. This was before this bad game. That was his birthday, Matt? And then, oh, man. Happy birthday. Maybe he just felt like he was getting old. Yeah, I've been there.
Um, but, um, he was asked a follow-up question of, is this organizational? Is this personal? And he's like, all of the above. Yeah. So there's there. And then Jamar Chase about the $250 million. And then, Hey, money can't buy you happiness. No. Or love. But it should make you go to your job. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? You should probably go do your job. So that was then that goes to this week after the loss. It was everything. I mean, he was a more. angry Joe Burrow? It was there, he's like, he's like the quarterback has to play better. I played too. That might be my, he said zero teams would have won with him at quarterback. Yeah, he's like, I, that was one of my worst games ever. And he just, everything, no matter how the reporters tried to steer the conversation, Joe Burrow was like, no, no card. That was me. I sucked. So I was talking to Jason of, so what Joe Burrow do we get next week? Do we get, do we get the man who has a little bit snapped out of the funk? And now he's just,
fueled by the rage and he's going to go out there and he's going to just I don't think so drop 303 or do we get the or do we get depressed like it doesn't matter I still saw depressed Joe Burrow in this last press conference to me okay the oh that was less anger to me and more depression again not that it's everything but the over under is still we got a 50.5 for Cincinnati against Miami similar to the Ravens over under yeah it's what I said it's not everything I have no idea what we're going to get. It's in Miami, so it won't be cold. I have no idea what we're going to get from Joe Burrow. None. Zero idea. He is capable of 500 yards. We're going to go. I mean, he, that's... 275 and 3. I think that's the part. Like, he actually hasn't played that well at various times throughout their run. I mean, they... Right. This is three years of missing the playoffs. I know part of its availability by him. And that happens, right? You get hurt. That's part of his... A huge part of what he's dealing with is...
Well, I'm working hard to come back from injury constantly. And then when I come back, we lose. And then we come back and I don't always play the best. And it's all mixed together. And, you know, I... We believe in you, Joe. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. We all like Joe Burrow. I'd love to see him as success. I just... If we could have the Cardinals bring over Joe Burrow, I think we would all be very happy. I think almost every team would say... Almost every team would... If Joe Burrow... magically became available. Do you think if Mahomes or Alan Lamar missed the playoffs three straight years, we would not lay anything at their feet? Yeah, if they are putting up points on the offense, yeah, I think we would forgive him. I mean, Lamar is, like, at least Burroughs made the Super Bowl. Like, Lamar still has his questions of, are they ever going to win? Yeah, last week was a tough one.
for burrow philip rivers will start again this week on monday night football yes prime time baby the whole world's gonna watch you have to get up off the ground you see like see matt ryan talking about maybe no oh no he's he's not going to but there was a clip today philip rivers is like when my dad wanted to ride a dirt bike oh yes that is a good comp and he did this happened because riding a dirt bike is fun And I'd like to see my dad have fun. Yeah. However. How to go. Not great because you also know what can happen to your grandpa, right? To the grandpa. You know what can happen if you give him a dirt bike. And right now we're all giving Philip Rivers a dirt bike. Yeah, it's a dangerous game. Hey, bro, you see that jump? But the.
Get it. But the thing is, get it. The thing that we're also- Wear a helmet. The thing that we're also- No, no, no, no. Just jump it. That I, that I believe you did with your father as well. Is we're filming- Taking to the hospital? Oh, okay. And that's what matters. If you're gonna, if you're gonna give a dirt bike to- I'm Philip Rivers. This is playing the NFL 44. Welcome to Jackass. Yes. That is exactly what is happening. This is playing the NFL at 44. Oh, that is the best segment ever in real life. That's what it is. Yeah. So and now all the cameras like you said we're recording it. Boom, Monday night everybody. Yeah. Philip, I don't know how many pounds you can lose in a week, brother.
But I get on that diet. Oh, man. Sweat it out. You either need to lose pounds add some pads. Bay Shaw-Tooten will undergo surgery on his finger, miss a few weeks. Jason will have even more Travis E-TN zone. I don't love that. Bam Night, not expected to play. We'll talk waivers with Michael Carter, Amari Demarcato, and the Cardinals, who it's funny. The Cardinals are, and I said it yesterday, you suck, Cardinals. You suck Jets. You suck Raiders. Yeah. Kyle wanted me to add the Falcons. Falcons, you suck. Well, find out this week. But let me tell you this. The Cardinals are just full of fantasy football championship value. Oh, for sure. Just jam-packed of players that could win your title. One, they haven't been playing for anything forever. So we don't have to worry about their playoff scenario. Right. They're as motivated as they have been, which is, I don't know what they're doing. But Jacoby Brissette, Michael Wilson,
Trey McBride, maybe a running back, maybe Marvin Harrison at some point. All of them are going to be relevant for fantasy. It's great. No defense. Fantastic. Oh, 40 points. They're giving up 40 points like four out of five weeks or something silly. I mean, their head coach. They really need to get a defensive minded head coach in there. Right. Yeah. You see Jonathan Gannon? What's your pitch? What's your pitch for staying with the Cardinals? Did you see that? No. No pitch. I'm worried about Atlanta. Well, yeah. How could you, he doesn't have a pitch. You couldn't have a pitch. What's your pitch for staying with the Cardinals? I've got a contract. Number two. It's nice. Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson is playing for money. He's in year three. Like he'll be in year four able to get an extension or figure that out. Jacoby playing the tape on him. And McBride's just playing for records. McBride's going to break the record. Michael Wilson against Stingley. Did you see that? I mean, if you go watch all the reps.
His release looks identical on every single rep, and then he does so much with it. It was just like a masterclass in playing wide receiver. When did he get good when Marvin Harrison went out? No, he was definitely not always good. Yes, he was. He was always good, and we have incompetence at the offensive side of the football. Man. And yeah, Marv, take it. Well, yeah, it's funny because you say all this fantasy goodness, which is absolutely true right now. But if Marvin Harrison Jr. comes back, it kind of ruins it. So good to see you. We're glad you're back. Yeah, I mean, it literally is like it hurts McBride, it hurts Michael Wilson. I'm not even sure it doesn't hurt Jacoby Brissette. You want the hyper consolidation. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Marv did play well with Harrison before, or with Brissette right before he went out. Woody Marks day to day for the Texans, Drake London.
hopeful that he's going to play this week. Why? That was surprising. I really hope he does because I want the Cardinals to lose, and that would be a great thing. And the Bears, a reminder this week for fantasy playoffs, the Bears play on Saturday against Green Bay. There's two Saturday games this week, right? I believe you're right. Ben Johnson said all options are on the table with Roma Dunzee and that they need to protect him from himself. Like cut it off? No. I mean, he said all options to cut the foot off. Yeah. It's not the best option. I thought our, I thought our philosophy was you could pop a toe off. You can't. But the feet we normally keep. Usually. But when all options are on the table. I guess you've got to take that off the table. We might put him down. Well, okay, two options are off the table. Okay. Luther burden day to day with an ankle injury.
Ricky Pearsall aggravated his PCL injury. Dude, that one. Yeah, you saw it on the field. The pierceau was such a bummer. And also sprained his ankle. He was finally, he's like, oh, hey look, Ricky Pearsall, you're back. You're in the offense. Hip drop. Rehurt. I don't like this one. Did they, uh, did they call that one? No, they don't call that. They don't call any hip. It's hyper illegal. They do not call them. Yeah, but those, those illegal formations. No. Not on my watch. I got my eyes on you. Are you two inches off the line of scrimmage? Whoa. It didn't affect the play. Oh, that was a touchdown? Check this out. Can't get away with that bull crap. I'm running the show. There's a sheriff on this field. Everyone's safe. Not on my field. Hip drops, no big deal. Devante Adams, week to week, not going to play on Thursday. I bet my life on that. He's not going to play until the playoffs.
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defenses and keeping them off of their roster. So it's going to be a mix and match of that. If you hear us talk about a name and you don't need that name, but your opponent might need that name, block it like it's hot. Yep. At running back, the highest opportunity situations, to me, it drills down into two spots. Agreed. Washington and Arizona. Mm-hmm. Chikori Kraski-Marit showed what a little consolidation could do. He's fast. Well, he was 18 for 96 and 1, but they play Philly. So that part sucks. But then Dallas in Championship Week, and you don't know if Chris Rodriguez will be back out there, if they'll give him more time. And in Arizona, we have kind of differing opinions there on who we think will be the most productive back. I believe it'll be a Marty Demarcato in the absence of Bam Knight. Mike believes it'll be Michael Carter in the absence of Bam Night. We have different reasoning for that. I don't disagree with your...
You're like, I think you believe DiMarcato is the more explosive athlete, maybe better running back. I don't know that I argue at all with that. I'm on the side of Michael Carter. I think he will be the one who gets the most opportunities. So, I mean, highest chance of scoring. The game with Atlanta, it might be fun. And Carter was, Carter was okay. You know, he had what? almost 100 yards from scrimmage that included four receptions, 14 carries. It's difficult to be the detective and figure out based off of what has happened, what will happen for the Arizona Cardinals because it was all over the place of after the, the Trey Benson injury, Michael Carter ends up being the guy. And then. Well, DeVar Cato had the big touchdown.
Yes. That he fumbled and then basically got benched. And then it was like, so the, but then, so Michael Carter's the guy. No, then Bam Knight's the guy. And then Carter gets hurt. DeMarcardo is the guy. Demarcato does his nonsense. And then he also gets hurt. And then this past week is Michael Carter. So it's, it's, I don't think it's, it's not like a crystal clear next man up situation. You're just, you're kind of making your best. probability. I think they'll see similar snaps. Genuinely, I do. And I think that DeMarcato will be the more productive player. He had a running back 25 and 19 finish before he got hurt. Those were very relevant. That's who I was playing in those weeks. But I don't disagree that Carter might see the field a little bit more snap count, but opportunity-wise, I think it'll be similar. Yeah. And Carter will be probably more involved in the receiving game. Like when we have seen them together, it's usually...
It's a tough decision to me as to which one to play. Like I was before we started this show, before we started recording, we were in a 10 minute. You two are looking up every stat on these two guys debating because you're both like very significantly. You're very significantly on opposite. Like you think Carter's a great pickup. You think DiMarcato is a great pickup. And I'm like, I don't know, man. Are either of these truly great pickups if they're splitting? Yeah, that's, what does the split come down to? I don't know. But Michael Carter, seven targets, three, six, four, and four. Now, Demarcato missed time in there. That's what I'm saying of the... It's not, there's not enough sample with them together. Exactly. One game, Carter's coming back from injury, so do you value that? One game, Demarcato's coming back from injury. Both of them are potential spot starts. That's the truth against Atlanta. Blake Corum, Blake Corum has been very good. He had a career high-in snaps.