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The fantasy footballers live in New York. New York City. What's going on, everybody? We've got a great show for you today. We've got a dominant quick question. We've got ice and fire on this show today. We have a live mailbag right here, right now, the football fan. With a special guest. A very special guest. And you podcast listeners out there, you're going to have to wait a little while to find out who that is. But we got...

a great show for you. And we got one more stop on this tour. We're coming to Phoenix. Well, we're from Phoenix. We're going home. So we'll be in Phoenix for a live show on August 24th, BallersLive.com for tickets. Thank you to everybody who came out to this show. This is impressive. The foot clan right now. They are, they're emanating. It's insane what is happening. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. You can follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Look, we're jumping in.

You guys ready to go? Oh, I'm always ready. Now, you remember it's live, Jason. Oh, it's going to be a good time. They can't edit me out here. So let's go with this. Quick question of the day. I think that whistle was for you, Jason. Of course it was. You're wearing that blue. Thank you, sir. All right, here, quick question. What running back not currently being drafted in the top 10 at the position has the best chance?

of ending up the year number one overall at the running back position. It's a tough question. It's a tough question because this happens, right? It happens. Whoa, whoa, careful. Look, every time that thing gets saying, his ADP rises. Yeah, you sing that song and you're not drafting it. So you have a weapon at your disposal, and you need to be responsible. Then again, Jason wants him, so. Oh, no, come on. He's going to be in the fifth round if you keep playing that. We'll get there. We'll get there. All right, here's the current top 10.

by ADP. Gurley, Bell, Zeke, DJ, Camara. Barkley, Gord. Hey, it's me. Hey, it's Camara. Hey, hey. Thank you for Fonsie. Yeah, no, I appreciate it. Barkley, Gordon, Hunt, Fournette Cook. So those, you can't pick one of those, but you got to pick someone that can be number one. There's a lot of good answers coming from the crowd. I'll jump in. I did not hear Isaiah Croyle's name.

Oh, yeah, Jets fans, I'm so sorry. Oh, bringing the heat, Andy. I'm sorry, it was unnecessary. Get body, Jets. I didn't need to do that at all. I actually like him. But he's not going to be number one. All right, I'm jumping in here. He's being drafted outside the top 10, and I get it because he's a rookie. He's unproven, but I think that he is in a great situation. Andy just saw... I hadn't seen the answer yet. He just saw my pick, and the man is oh so nice.

Oh, I didn't realize that I'm picking a division rival here, so deal with it. But Darius Geist, I think, has a tremendous opportunity. Put on the hate blockers. You'll be all right. We're putting guys from the outside of the top ten. So we're talking longer shots, but here's the deal. He doesn't have the reception totals I want from college, but from what I have seen on film, he can catch the ball.

Yes, Chris Thompson is there. Chris Thompson is going to be a sponge when it comes to that passing down's work. But if we can get, if we can get Eddie Lacey type receptions for Darius Geis and.

I know we all, it's very in vogue to be a hater now on Eddie Lacey of just years ago. He was the hotness. Eddie Lacey was the great. He was a top five dynasty pick. Eddie Lacey was catching 35 to 40 receptions a year. If Darius guys can get in that range, and he's getting all the goal line work, look, two years ago, Washington had 17 rushing touchdowns. It plummeted this year because...

Unfortunately, Somaget P. Ryan could not get it done. Rob Kelly was not on the field, but they want to score on the ground. That's what I believe that Gruden wants to do. So if we can get into, we've got to squeeze them up, squeeze them up into the 35 range. But he's your long shot. He's your long shot, number one. He's a long shot, but he is the type of guy who, at the end of the year, if he has 10 plus touchdowns on the ground, I will have no shock in my face.

Or anywhere. I've been grounded. I'm wearing rubber. It's passing through. Yes, I'm fine. Okay. Look, for me, it stood out as Jared McKinnon. Sure. Which, look, Jerry McKinnon. Here's what the number one, the number one running back in fantasy the last three years. 2015, Devonta Freeman, 73 receptions. He only had 265 carries. 2016, DJ had 80 receptions. That would be David Johnson. No.

Johnson. You're not giving it back to him until he's back? Here's the deal. After the first David Johnson touchdown, I will be tearing the shirt off of my body, and I will reenact the entire music video. But until that happens, I'm trying to be reserved. Todd Garley's 64 receptions last year, Derek McKinnon has this clear path to reception totals. And so...

I give him that shot, right? Only so many players are going to have the opportunity to catch that many passes. I think Jared could be that surprised guy, especially when a guy like Devante Freeman, who, I believe, you said, stinks!

Before the 2015 season. I can't recall this happening, Andy. I don't know what you're talking about. Became the number one out of nowhere, and, you know, Shanahan has the ability to do that. So that's my pick. Jerich McKinnon. Hey, your boy's strong. All right. Yes, he is. Look, I love McKinnon. I don't know about guys. But here's, there are two guys that when I look at the players that are a little bit further outside of the top 10 that I think, hey,

They have the talent, well, carry on. Don't get me started. Hold on. We'll raise his ADP later. The glasses fog up when you talk about carry on, so I'm going to need you to be quiet. No, there's two players that I think have a legitimate chance to take over this year in a major way. Now, one is going to be my fire player. I'm talking about him later, so I'm going to hold off on that. The other is not Derek Henry, sir. It is Jordan Howard.

Wow. Oh, Jay Gris loves it. Now, Jordan Howard gets mixed reviews, of course, because look, the first two years in the league, no one can argue that he has not been a great running back. Over two seasons, he has averaged 4.6 yards of carry. You know, he's averaged over 1,250 yards, and that's been on the hapless bears with bad offenses and bad offensive coaching.

Now you get a change in coach. Now you get Matt Nagy. Matt Nagy is coming over and saying, hey, let's open this offense up. Let's use the weapons we have, but let's succeed in today's NFL. So he has an opportunity to get better. Now, where's he been the last two years? He's been a top 12 running back both seasons. 12 and 10. So the gap to get to number one is not that big.

But here's the problem. What's the problem? Where's he being drafted right now, by the way? He doesn't catch the ball, Jason. He doesn't catch the ball. That's the problem. Now, he tries so hard. Now, here's the thing. Here's the thing about that. So you can argue what you want about his past catching ability. A lot of people believe that there is, look, I love Turok, but he's a gadget player. Turok Cohen.

is a great dinosaur hunter, not a great between-the-tackles runner. That's my problem with them. How can you hunt dinosaurs? But not get between the tackle. Sniper rifles, okay? You have to have distance against dinosaurs. Don't be idiots. You have experience. All right, but here's a thing. What if, let's say he doesn't add pass-catching to his game. He doesn't add it. Let's say that, yeah. Let's say it. Let's say it. Because the people believe he can't. The facade is that he cannot.

The facade, façade, façade, they sound similar. They sound, I just want you to remember that word. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If he doesn't, and he's still on a better offense, maybe he's the number eight running back. He was 12, 10, he didn't catch passes. Now, there's only one person here that really matters what they believe in Jordan Howard. That's the guy calling the plays, Matt Nagy. Would we agree with that? It doesn't matter what I think. It matters what he thinks. Sure. Let me Rotsky.

He says, not me, not me, he says, obviously there's... Oh, watch it! Okay, Matt Nagy. Big time. Says, obviously, there's this facade out there. There's this notion that Howard is just a first and second down back, and I don't believe that head coach and offensive mastermind Matt Nagy said. Jordan can play all three downs. We're going to do that. We're going to use him. Now, they're going to use all the running backs. They're going to get them all involved.

But I want a good... Todd Gurley was the 17th running back two years ago, and then all of a sudden they used him in the passing game, which they hadn't done, and he was the number one. So I say Jordan Howard has a legitimate chance. He's a guy, third round and later, that I say, I want to take the shot. Who's with me? And all his dynasty owners clap together. Hey, we're going to press the pause button real quick and thank today's sponsor, Harry's. Look, I love...

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