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It was a couple years ago, but we just talked about how I'm removing a giant Jeremy Hill tattoo from my chest. So it works both ways when you love a player. If a player burns you and you say there'll never be on my team again, ah, nah. And then it just turns out that Todd Gurley had a down year, and he's actually a really good running back. Told you. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. When an offensive mind gets in there and.

and can actually scheme things for Todd Gurley. So it burns you both ways. It's, as fantasy players, we have to learn to move on from last year. And I speak of it, it's difficult for me to do it because I get emotionally attached. When I beat Andy in a fantasy championship, I don't recall, but go on. I went and I got a fathead. Oh, yeah, I do recall. Of Robert Griffin.

I mean, this thing was like 70 by 70 and took up the entire space of my office just so I control him because I now loved Robert Griffin more than any quarterback in the league. So far your love players are not turning out long term, Mike. But that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying is you can't have the rose-colored glasses on for this past season. You have to evaluate it new.

from this season. I'm going to bring up maybe a strange point to answer the question as well. Here comes a pink moose. Sometimes, though, and I think of a player like Derek McKinnon, right, who came into certain people's rosters last year and saved them in the middle of the season, right? Putting up big weeks. And then you look at projecting them this year. I think sometimes if a player did great things for you and you were glued into them and you watched them on the field every week, maybe it clues you end on to their potential.

Sure. Maybe. Look, I agree with you guys. Every situation is different. Every year is different. Every scheme is different. Just on an emotional level, like Cream Hunt, obviously, last year for me, for years I loved Brandon Marshall. That was just a guy that always came through for me. That was Andy. Aryan Foster was like a... That was Andy too. I really miss him. Blake Bortles.

Oh, oh, hey, hold on. Hold on. Not even Blake Bortles will draft himself. Who are you talking about? One second. I got a snake, man. So shout out to our man, Mike, who gave us our custom Blake the snake. High funkel figure. This thing is ridiculous. Pretty sweet. Thank you, sir. Pretty sweet. But the one thing I will say is, again, uh,

It's a game we play for fun. So, like, I'll get these questions, like, oh, you know, I really, Cam Newton's there. Like, I want to, you know, I live in Carolina, and I love the Panthers, and I want to draft Cam Newton. You know, it's my first quarterback. And I'm always, it's like, look, Cam Newton's not my number one quarterback, but it's a fun game. Like, if you want to root for Cam Newton on your fantasy team, like, I got no issue with it. Like, Cam Newton's a good quarterback.

Like, if you take them two rounds too early, because you have to be a fan, you have to be a fan, it is what it is. We play this game for fun, and if you're going to enjoy this game more by picking a player you're rooting for, even if it's not the best ADP or the best value or whatever, so what? Like, again, you're probably not losing your league because you drafted Cam Newton a round or two early or whatever. Thanks for the question. Thank you, sir. Next question. Guys, my name's Eric. Hey, Eric. Hey, Eric. It's so nice to meet you.

First year of Dynasty League. We want to know if we should do IDP, like two, three of them, or DST. Oh, an IDP or DST question for... Yeah, you know me. Or how about neither? Oh. Yeah. Yes. So... I don't mind that. I think you guys are... Did you guys do the Scott Fish Bowl this year? We did. Right. Yes. So I did my first one this year.

And I can't tell you how much fun it was to draft a team where I didn't have to worry about picker or defense. I have to tell you, like you're starting it up. Why not? No, our Dynasty League that we have, that is our main league of record for Dynasty, we have no kicker, no defense, and it's fantastic. I would personally all... Jason rising in the rankings. I like that. Yes.

Yeah, I like that. If you have to choose between those two, because obviously not every league is willing to cut things out, like I would get rid of kickers in general. Like on regular NFL teams? Sure. No, but I would go. I would go DST. I would go DST. You know, there is something, you know, Barry's talking about the fun. There's also something fun about playing in a league that is

what other, you know, if you're listening to podcasts, if you're getting advice and, you know, seeing people tweet out stuff, that it matches what you do. And there's just much less IDP. So if you want to dig deep and go there, that you can. But I prefer- Don't write us an email about it. Right. I mean, we're not IDP, guys. So I would recommend DST. Yeah, if anything. All right. Thanks for the question. Totally great. Thank you, sir.

Next question. Hi guys, Dylan here. How's it going? So nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. Guys, which running back do you guys think could separate themselves this year to be a top tier pick next year in next year's draft? Also somebody that tiers up, that levels up this season that we're talking about in the first 10 next year or something? Yeah, top three, top four. Top three, top four? Yeah. I got a drop you can play. Oh, don't even. Carry on my way.

What just happened? You don't believe that, though, right? That he can tear up? No, not tear up. He said top three, top four. I think you missed that part because you were prepping yourself for the song. Right. Are you asking basically the whole first section? Yeah, like just. So when the, you guys just did a whole section at the top of the show, like which? Well, I see what you're saying. So who's yours? Who's yours then, Barry?

I'll be honest, I liked all of your choices. I like McKinn and I like Mixin. I'm going to go with Darius Geis as well. I will say this, and I think this is one of the things you were sort of hinting at, but last year, just last year alone, if you took some Aj-P, and remember the Redskins who had an awful offensive line, like they were so brutally injured on all aspects. They were literally guys that were off the street were starting two weeks later or whatever. Their entire starting offensive line was hurt.

If you combine, and it was an offense that was not doing particularly well, and yet still, if you combined Somagai P. Ryan and Rob Kelly into one player, they would have tied for third last year in goal to go carries. Like when they get in close, they like to run.

Jay Gruden's offense, whatever you think of him as a head coach, and I actually think he's a good head coach. I actually, as a Redskin fan, I actually like Jay Gruden. Listen, they had 23 guys injured last year, and they won seven games. You're on the defense right now, Barry. I don't care. So, not my podcast. What do I care? So, look, I'll torpedo the same before I'm done. Look, so all I was going to say is, it's like, Jay Gruden's offense is put on points. They always do. They are...

They tend to be in terms of the top 10 in the NFL in terms of red zone rush percentage. I know a lot of the people around the team, on the team in terms of sources.

They love Darius Geis. And by the way, if you look at Jay Gruden's offenses over the years, they've never had a guy like him, a talent like him. A lot of people were talking about him going in the middle of the first round just based on pure talent. They just didn't, then character concerns came up. Yeah. Which seemed to be, have dispelled. Make no mistake. He's going to get the ball often. When we were all at the NFFC recently and I spoke to Chris Thompson and I just said, we were off to the side. I was like,

So Darius, man. He just got a big grin. He's just like, he's going to surprise a lot of people. Like he was just, Chris is just like, we've got some things planned. Like, so look, you think about the SEC and how amazing it is. Literally, Bo Jackson is the only player with a higher yards per carry average in the SEC than Darius Geis. I mean, in the history of the SEC. And they never had a quarterback. He was facing eight main fronts the whole time. Give me some Darius Geis. My fantasy ride or die this year.

I'll just jump in real quick because mine is between the two rookies of Rashad Penny and Darius guys for many of the reasons that Matthew has just said. Well, other later guys that could be candidates would be some of the rookies, right? Sonny Michelle could be somebody that you're talking about. Royce Freeman could easily jump into that for me. Just based on workload. If Deontza Foreman is healthy and gets back the second? No, if he's helped. I'm not saying for this year, the question was, the question was at the end of this year going into the following year,

If the Antiforman is healthy and Lamar Miller is done, he could end up being on a good offense where he's tiered jumped. I'm not saying for this season. I'll give you one more. I'll just give you one more. Just a name you haven't heard. Bonus. How about... Stop it. How about... No, but how about Jay Ajay? Look. It's a fair point. Hang on. Look. I get it. I... You know, I was going to bring his name up. Don't make me come out there. Look.

Please don't make him go out there. Don't make me push Jason into the crowd. I will, I have fallen into the crowd many times. All I'm saying, look, look, I like Cory Clement as well, and I think he's an interesting late-round sleeper. But I will tell you, I interviewed Peterson at the Combine and asked him his thoughts on Cory Clement, and the first thing out of his mouth was,

Listen, he's great on special teams. And I'm like, scored a touchdown. Oh, that's not good. Right. He just, he talked about how good he was in special teams. He was like, and we're going to be in the offense as well. Look, and I know you got Sproles here. But if J. Ajaya stays healthy behind that offensive line on one of the best offenses of football, look, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but you're asking me for a guy that's like. They have to, he has to do it, and then they have to pay him. Yeah, understood. But all I'm saying is that that is a guy in a situation that doesn't have a ton of competition.

Needs to stay healthy, but... Was that your guy, Andy? You were going to go with J.I. I was going to bring up JHA. And then I started to second-guess it a little bit with the contract situation. But I believe 100% that J-H-I in the fourth round is a steal right now. It's a good night. Even in New York City fantasy draft. Next question. Thanks, guys. Yeah, no problem. Thank you. What's up, man? How are you doing? What's your name? Ray. Make sure you use the microphone. We can't see you, so... Sorry.

All right. So you guys all have Gordon and Landry in the top 32 wide receivers, right? Why do you think the Browns? The Browns. Yeah. Can sustain two top 32 wide receivers when they didn't sustain a top 50 last year. This is a very fair question. Josh Gordon was, dare I say, heavily talked about on the podcast that's going to come out tomorrow. I highly suggest everyone jumps.

On to the YouTube. Yeah, you might want to see the case for Josh Gordon. And see the defense of Josh Gordon. And my defense of those rankings, like I talked about on the earlier show, is the upgrade at the quarterback position. If it ends up being Tyrod Taylor the entire season, which in my projections, it will be not. But that's a huge upgrade.

for Josh Gordon, who was manhandling, manhandling NFL defensive backs after coming off the street from three years. He was just ready to go. And then we have Baker Mayfield waiting in the wings, who was my number one quarterback coming into the draft. I was shocked that the Cleveland Browns did the right thing, and they took Baker. He's one of the most accurate quarterbacks in college history.

He is a fantastic player. And if you get accurate passes to two wide receivers who can make things happen, who can get separation, who can do things after the catch, that's why you have them both ranked the way that they are. Jason, how do you feel? Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, you listen to the Phillies show because I am very much not on the Josh Gordon train at his current price.

And I actually have neither of them in the top 32. Our consensus rankings have it. That's true. My defense of your accusation is, how dare you accuse me, sir? Right. Jason has Jarvis Landry currently at 38. I have him at 31. So I like that he went right to the edge, tipped his toes over, and took a peek. They're going to be better. They're going to be better on offense.