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2015, Richard Rogers only had 10 of those 10 zone targets I talked about. So Jimmy Graham, what he did last year, which was turned half of his targets into touchdowns, that's five touchdowns for Jimmy Graham. You're going to be happy with a tight end who gives you five touchdowns? No. In the fifth round? No, you're not. No, not in the fifth round. All right. For me, my ice... Oh, you're doing it again. It should come as... It should come as no surprise. He's got to protect himself.

Ladies and gentlemen, he's put on the hay balkers, the glasses. Ronald Jones is a bust. Ronald Jones is being drafted ahead of guys. Hold on. Do we have an updated ADP for Ronald Jones? Yes, we do. Ronald Jones.

He is the 55th player off the board, and we need to change that. Oh, my goodness. If he gets down around 70, 75, then we're talking about where he belongs. Here's my case. Can you see anything right now? I can see nothing. These are blackout glasses. I see absolutely nothing going on. That's what you watched his film with. Oh! I wish. You wish? All right.

Andy got a chant for that one. So here's my case against Ronald Jones. Look, before he was drafted, I did not like Ronald Jones. I didn't like the film because he was a smaller guy who ran up the middle, and that is not something that's going to work in the NFL. I love him when he gets an open space, but he doesn't catch the ball. At least he didn't in college. And the ball in the NFL?

That was the parents from the peanuts. Then he was drafted by Tampa Bay. That's how I'm taking in this argument. Then he was drafted by Tampa Bay, and I was like, oh, man, that's a really good spot. He moved up my rankings a little bit because the opportunity is there. Absolutely. Doug Martin is gone. But last night in Philadelphia, Andy, how did you describe the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Outlook. Their record's going to be bad.

Their record is going to be bad. And Andy, do you usually prefer drafting running backs on good teams or bad teams? On good teams. Great. How's the offensive line? I don't really like this line of questioning. Look, here's a guy that didn't catch the ball in college who is now... Why would they use a guy who doesn't have that skill set over Charles Sims who they have and is good when they're losing games? The regime, if they have a bad year, Dirk Cutter was barely...

back this year. If they get a new regime coming in midway through the year or after the season, it's not going to be good for the rookie that was drafted there. And if you look at his weight, he's 205. I talked to him at the NFFC, asked him, because he looked. I was like, man, he's bulking up. No, I brought up your concern to him. He's not concerned. Yeah, he's 208 pounds. He was totally fine with them all. You want to know what made him really great at college. I want him to be good so bad. He put up some great yards. But he had 9.

Teen rushing touchdowns. Yes, that is great. That's in his favor. Yes. But do you believe that a 208 pound running back can do that in the NFL? 19 touchdowns isn't going to happen, Jay. No. So my point is, bad team doesn't catch the ball.

Crowded backfield. It's not like Peyton Barber and Charles Sims don't exist. You brought up Chris Carson, so you can't be like rolling your eyes at Peyton Barber who had more good games last year. It's a crowded backfield for a bad team with a guy that doesn't catch the ball.

Those are my issues with Ronald Jones, and he's a little bit smaller than I would prefer for a guy that does. I mean, if you're 209 pounds, catch the ball like Derek McKinnon, catch the ball like Jamal Charles, catch the ball like Devont to Freeman, but he doesn't. Ronald Jones is going ahead of these players. Dionne Lewis or Ronald Jones? Dionne Lewis. Lewis. Lewis. I would take Lewis. Terrock. That is a big.

That's a great question. I mean, obviously, I'm taking Ronald Jones. And I tend to side with Jason that Ronald Jones, it's going to be tough. It's not in his favor the way that the NFL has played. But if I'm making a draft a decision of the auxiliary pass-catching running back for Chicago over a guy who could be the featured bag, and you have to go with Ronald Jones. You have to go Ronald Jones. But it's not everybody being drafted behind him isn't.

No, everybody drafted behind him is pretty much. But you're bringing up a guy in Tariq Cohen who is being way overvalued versus Kerryon Johnson's going around the later. He's not the starter either. Marlon Mack. Kevin Coleman. Not the starter. Carry on Johnson gets more touches this year than Ronald Jones. Put it on the board if you want it. Waterbed. In more ways than one, sir, you are blinded. Yeah, there you go. My goodness. Easy win.

Thank you. Mike or Royce Freeman or Ronald Jones. Oh, please. Rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub. I'm stealing it. Oh, is that? That's me revving up the Rolls Royce. That needs to be in the shop, yeah. That's trouble. All right, you guys ready to rotate over to fire? It was misfiring a little bit, I admit. That was a rough, rough Rolls Royce. I don't know what a Rolls-Royce sounds like. That's fair. That is fair. It's a fair point.

Let's move over to players that we think are going to light up the box score. Possible breakout candidates. You're picking one. Fire. Fire player. Who do you think? You want me to jump in here first? I think I'm going to let somebody else go first. That's fair. I just went, so you're up, Mike. I'm passing it to Andy. You jump in here first. Okay. Corey Davis. Yeah, baby. Corey Davis. Now.

I like the challenge of making the argument for Corey Davis. I really do because when you talk about him, you don't get the luxury of looking back at last season stats for your argument because not many of them exist. He didn't get to do very much. You have to step forward on him based on his skill, based on his size, based on his abilities, his body control, the expectations that you have for him. That's a projection for Corey Davis. He was also drafted inside the top 10 of the NFL draft.

If you remember, if you can go back to week one last year when you were undefeated, all of you. I remember it fondly. Yeah. How many targets? Do you remember how many targets Corey Davis had in week one? Ten. He had ten targets in week one of his rookie season. Then he got hurt, okay? And sure, hold it against him if you want to, but he got hurt. He did not come back and do anything until late in the season when he had the game you hope.

he could have in the playoffs against Malcolm Butler when he put up 98 yards and two touchdowns. So if you want to make the argument for Cory Davis, it's pedigree, right? Jason, if I ever hear you tell me that Case Keenham has the most touchdowns and yards in college history again, it'll be too soon. He does, though. But yeah. But I'm going to just do that now because Cory Davis is the all-time receiving yards leader in college. That's pretty good. Really?

I did not know that. He's 6.3209. When he looks in the mirror, you know what he sees? He sees Brandon Marshall on the other side. That's who he is. If you look at the comps, he's what Brandon Marshall was. He should get a new mirror. It's weird. It's actually a window and Brandon Marshall's at his house, and it's awkward. But here's the thing about the Titans, and Jason's been quick all offseason to say how much he likes the Titans' offense to improve and get better. They're going to be good. They were ranked 28th.

in pass attempts over the last two years. There's a lot of room to move up in past attempts over the last two years. They have 898 unaccounted air yards. Okay? That's opportunity for Corey Davis. And if they throw more, what is that? A 1,200 unaccounted four yards in an offense that you think is going to improve. You look at the hype train. Yes, it's the hype train. But one of the stars of the early portion of work has been Corey Davis. And the thing is, Marcus Mariotta.

Corey Davis, they barely got to practice together last year. And to me, you're looking at him and you're saying, can I get Alshon Jeffrey plus out of Corey Davis? I don't think he's going to catch 100 passes. That's impossible for the amount of target share and what Mariotta does. 60 for 1,000 and 8, that's Cory Davis's fire year to me. And I think Cory Davis can do it. Sure. For me, Corey Davis, like I've said, it comes down to 20%.

two touchdowns. But the fact that you're bringing up air yards over there, Andy, it's getting me sweaty. I'm not going to lie to you. Welcome to the team, Mike. I've been sweating up here for hours. For hours. All right. I'll jump in here. This is a true story. I'm just going to share this story. I've got no shame. We went on NBC Sports Philadelphia. Was it yesterday two days ago? Who knows? I don't really remember.

We went on, and we talked fantasy for about 10 minutes. And whenever they paned to Jason, this man had the foggiest glasses. They fog up, man. That you have ever seen in under... I can't see you with them. I can't see without him. He's like a thousand incandescent bulbs at all... Yeah. I run a little warm. You're a hot man. I'm a hot man. Speaking of hot man... You like that transition? Pro move. Here's my fire player.

No, no, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who are they saying? They're shouting Jimmy G, the other Jimmy G. They're calling for Jimmy Hansom out there. But here's the deal. I'm talking about a guy who's actually going to break out. Sorry, Jimmy. That is sexy Rexey, Berkhead. Oh, that's a mixed bag out in this audience. You might need them blockers. Here's, here's the deal. Rex Burkhead's true run. His true run began his second game back from injury.

Right? This ran about games 8 to 13. He actually, I don't know if you all remember, week one when we were hoping for Gillisly to be the man, who was the first guy out on the field? Rex Burkhead. Rex Burkhead. For I believe one carry. Yeah. He may or may not have gotten hurt. But here's the deal. Dionne Lewis was the man, right? Dionne Lewis was incredible for fantasy. He was incredible.

for the Patriots, but when Burkhead was actually healthy, and Lewis had carved out his role of 12 attempts and two targets a game, Rex Burkhead was out-snapping him, and he was out-targeting him. He was getting eight attempts and four and a half targets a game. He received nine carries inside the 10 to Dion 6, and that turned into six goal-line attempts for Rex Burkhead compared to Dionne Lewis one.

Inside the 10, where things are very valuable, two targets went to Rex Burkhead in his time where he was shining. Zero for Dionne Lewis. Rex Burkhead was the running back 10 during his run, and how did they reward him? Did they say, well, we're done with you? No. They gave him a three-year deal with almost $10 million. A couple years ago, we saw the Pats, or last year, I should say, the Pats scored 16 rushing touchdowns between Gillisleet Lewis.

and Burkhead. A couple years ago, LaGarrett Blunt had 18 rushing touchdowns, and he did that, 18 rushing touchdowns as a sub-50% snap player. It doesn't matter that Rex Burkhead isn't on the field for every single snap for the Patriots. I feel like you just made the argument for picking Sonny Michelle over Rashad Penny. No, because my argument is for the Ligarid Blunt role, which is Rex Burkhead, who's being drafted at the back of the seventh round as the running back 34.

Sure. He is difficult for people to draft. And I totally get it because, like I said. Because heads up, you would take Sony, wouldn't you? Berkhead versus Sony, you would take it. You remember those running backs drafted in the first round stats you gave earlier? Yes. But I'm going to give Mike credit because he has the ability to do this. And this is a fantasy football players. It's very difficult for us to draft the RB2 of a system. Yes, it is. It's hard for us to draft the wide receiver too because we just want to see ceiling. We don't want to see.

47%. Like, that's not necessarily a point that you draft on is 47% of the snaps. 18, and that 47% though turned into 18 rushing touchdowns. It's interesting. By the end of the year, if Rex Burke had played 16 games and he ends the season with 12 plus rushing touchdowns, once again, I will not be shocked. I would be. How much of this, though, is that you want to say sexy, Rexy for the rest of the year? At least 20%. All right.

That makes sense. Sometimes players do things that really help this show. And if they can stay relevant, yeah. I like Rex Burkett. I think he's a great value. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 12 rushing touchdowns. Twelve overall touchdowns, great because he's a great pass catcher. But I do think he's a very valuable player for where he's been drafted right now. Yeah. Okay. Okay.