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The video backdrop is christened the Magic Wall, and Mike tries to buy naming rights as Magic Mike's Wall to attract a different search audience. An unsolicited Magic Mike visual arrives several minutes later; the hosts say Al returned from vacation thinking he could do anything, threaten to leave, and complain that the gag took too long.
A host praises Daniel Jeremiah before criticism and is challenged about the habit. The hypothetical phrase 'Papa Josh, great at his job, but...' is rejected because the desk claims it never says that; its replacement is simply 'Papa Josh is a guy.'
An unnamed host says he tried to buy Travis Hunter cheaply in dynasty because of trade rumors and uncertainty about Hunter's offensive role. He pulled the offer as soon as full-time-cornerback news broke and celebrates avoiding the resulting problem.
The hosts debate whether Travis Hunter won the wide-receiver award, thank Kyle for confirming that he did, and immediately challenge Jason to spell Biletnikoff while their own pronunciations and the transcript mutate repeatedly.
Travis Etienne's corrected pronunciation becomes Travis A. Chan Jr., immediately causes De'Von Achane and Etienne to swap names, and keeps derailing the rankings. Papa Josh is present as a Louisiana-raised pronunciation authority. The hosts declare second-contract name changes unacceptable unless adding Senior, demand that combine entrants formally state their names, and assign Jason mirror practice at the close.
Mike ranks Kenneth Walker higher than the other hosts, and the desk acknowledges Walker as the most-discussed name on the list. An adjacent unlabeled host says he is willing to get hurt, Walker is directly called Mike's My Guy, and the prospect of draft competition for Walker and Chase Brown is said to threaten Mike's mental health.
The hosts say MarShawn Lloyd merely looked at someone else pulling a hamstring and injured his own, compare the event to sympathetic vomiting, and formally diagnose him as an empath.
A rapid list of Derrick Henry fantasy finishes accidentally sounds like 2319, prompting the Monsters, Inc. human-sock code, a pop-culture victory, and a threat to leave the show. Moments later Henry's durable body is called a Wonderland, a temple, and spectacular.
The show names its video backdrop the Magic Wall, which prompts Mike to seek naming rights as Magic Mike's Wall and a joke about attracting a different search audience. Several minutes later an unsolicited Magic Mike graphic finally appears; one host threatens to leave, the desk blames Al for returning from vacation and thinking he can do anything, and then complains the gag took too long. Another crew roast begins when Daniel Jeremiah is praised as great at his job: a Papa Josh comparison is reduced to 'Papa Josh is a guy.' Kyle is used as the facts desk when the hosts confirm Travis Hunter's Biletnikoff Award and challenge Jason to spell it. A separate dynasty anecdote says an unnamed host pulled a cheap Travis Hunter offer moments before news that Hunter may play full-time cornerback. The episode's largest running bit concerns pronunciation. Travis Etienne's new pronunciation becomes Travis A. Chan Jr.; De'Von Achane is accidentally turned into Etienne; Papa Josh, identified as having grown up in Louisiana, confirms the regional pronunciation; the hosts declare that second-contract name changes are not cool and demand a combine name-registration process; and Jason is told to practice in a mirror. Kenneth Walker remains Mike's player crusade: Mike ranks him highest, the desk calls him Ken Bone Walker, identifies him as Mike's My Guy, says draft competition would damage Mike's mental health, and an adjacent unlabeled host declares willingness to get hurt. Smaller physical gags turn MarShawn Lloyd into a hamstring empath who pulls his own muscle by seeing another injury, and Derrick Henry's ranking sequence into the Monsters, Inc. 2319 human-sock emergency before Henry's body is called both a Wonderland and a temple.
to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Tuesday, April 14th. Welcome in to the fantasy footballers. Mike Wright is here. Jason Moore accounted for. I'm Andy Holloway. Welcome in one and all. Great show for you today. It's never too early for the early top 15 running backs. Not when you call them early. No, we have prefaced it. These are the early top 15 running back rankings episode or I guess we have running backs today. Wide receivers on Thursday. So getting into early rankings. These early rankings are really about the heart. You know what I mean? Because like when our fully established rankings come out when.
you know, at June 1st, the ultimate draft kit, we've statted everybody out. This is like, this is more vibes. You know what I mean? I'm like, I like this guy more. I don't have him statted out yet, and I'm not sure 100% that like that's how the chips are going to fall. But if you made me draft today, I'd probably draft this guy. Yeah, exactly. So we're going to go through our top 15 by consensus. So we have some differences of opinion and they get averaged out here. So that's the main. the main event today we got some news to talk about as well a reminder you can watch the show over on youtube youtube.com slash the fantasy footballer subscribe click the bell we do some live events over there that way you know what's going on magic wall and we have a magic wall that's what we should just call it we do we have a magic wall um if at any moment magic mike's wall if we want to just be in the middle of the caribbean hmm no
It's good for search engine stuff, Jay. Okay. He wants the naming rights on the wall. He wants it to be magic magic mics. I think you're going to get different results. You know what I mean? We're not going to crack that one. I'm just trying to get a new audience. All right. YouTube for the magic wall. Mike's magic wall. Mike's magic. No, no, no. Magic Mike's. That's what it is. The draft kit is ultimate draft kit.com. If you want to go pre-order it, it is the best possible price right now. You will get instant. access to the dynasty pass if you pick up the ultimate draft kit and you know we're almost to the draft we're 10 days away which is crazy and we're we're rapidly approaching crazy season and we're even still being surprised at times that's what i mean we're we're in it where you're
Like group think and just like in fantasy football when you get in the tops, like some group think does start to take over. And NFL mock drafts, it's hard to not have, you know, let me peek at my friend's paper and see how they're doing things over there. But we just had Daniel Jeremiah, who's great at his job. I love Daniel Jeremiah. Always had you like. to start a conversation about somebody? Because... Papa Josh, great at his job, but... No, we don't ever see that. Oh, okay. Good point. Like, Papa Josh is a guy. That's the... That's the... Then you go from there. Okay. But he had Jeremiah Love not only falling in the top 10, which... I did... I do believe that that could happen. That could happen. Sure. But the team... But going to the Kansas City Chiefs at 9 after making Ken Bone Walker the...
fourth highest paid running back. It just is like, yeah, teams, teams do wild stuff, but that would just be such a use of your assets to make your team better to just lock them all into the running back position. I mean, that really would be the closest thing to the running back version of Michael Pinnock's junior to the falcons where you spent the off season spending huge money on somebody. Now you don't normally do that at running back, especially when you look at that team and you're like, well, they could use McKay and limit. They could use Jordan Tyson. They could use Cornell Tate. One of those guys would be there at nine. Certainly at least one will be there. If not all three. Yeah, Kenyon and Sadiq. So don't, don't put Sadiq to the chiefs, Jay. Why? Because we can't survive it. I know. All of us who are holding the wall of like, Kenya and Sadiq has some red flags in his profile. He is as a prospect, you're like, golly, it's really hard not to push up the chips.
all the way into the middle of the table with what he can do, just who he is as an athlete. With Mahomes. But then you put him on the Chiefs and it's like, it'll be Clyde Edwards Alleyer all over again. You'll just, any red flag, you'll split him in half and you'll go right through him and say, what, what problems? He's on the Chiefs. That's everything that the draft represents, that level of conversation and insanity. And there will be, it might not be Jeremiah loved of the Chiefs, but there will be so k-dokey. Oh, we got a magic mic wall. See, we didn't. Oh, goodness gracious. We did not ask for that. This was not. I'm out of here. See? We got a new audience coming in. Al comes back from vacation and he's just thinks he could do anything. Am I wrong that I'm mad at how long it took if that was the gag? That was a while. It should be pretty quick. I would think he doesn't have all the protocols down for mics.
or Magic Mike's Wall yet. There's just no reason for any of this to have happened today. Okay. We got news to talk about. We'll do it right now. News and notes from Around the League. The Eagles have acquired Jehan Dodson. Oh, wait, no. No, no. Sorry, this year's Jehan Dodson. It's Donovan. It's Donovan Wicks from the Packers. They already acquired this year's Jehan Dodson when they picked up Hollywood Brown. Oh, so this could be different. And Elijah Moore. Oh, they just got up. Who's also on the team. Don't forget. Well, because I did. One Elijah Moore plus one Hollywood plus one Duntavian wicks equals one trade at AJ Brown. It feels that way. It definitely feels like this is all preparation for him saying Sayonara. I mean, it was two picks. It was a fifth, fifth round and a sixth round. For fifth round this year, six run next year. And they gave him a one year 12 and a half million dollar extension, which I don't remember.
Kyle, do you remember what the Hollywood Brown contract was? Wix is the best player not named A.J. Brown and Devante Smith in the wide receiver room. But on a team that doesn't throw the ball with the volume that we're excited for in fantasy combined with, you know, do they take, I mean, they've been rumored to be a home for Tyson or one of these young wide receivers. They will draft one as well. That's what I'm saying. They're going to draft a wide receiver. A.J. Brown will be a patriot. That's what I believe. Okay. Um, Rossini told me. And, Hey, who. Hey. Hey. We don't have any answers, people. Uh, we got questions. Yeah, we got the same questions you do. Oh, I can tell you boots. Like danger field on that. I could tell you boots on the ground. I have been to that resort. Mike has been to that same. He has inside. I went with my wife.
to this resort. It is a romantic. It is a very romantic spot. It's just telling you I've been there. Not saying one way or the other, but I've been. I believe you said that that, that the spot of that photograph. Yes, was on top of a room. It is a private balcony that all the rooms have. Yeah. And Mike did the research. Ah, yeah. No answers. No answers. Just questions. Hollywood Brown was a one year five million. Hollywood doesn't matter. Or really doesn't matter. Wix could matter a little bit. Yeah. But you have to convince yourself that the number two or three guy on this receiving room, I mean, Dallas got it. Is he still a question mark? I mean, he's a question mark because he's never done anything until last year. I'm just saying from a past catching standpoint, it's just hard for me to believe Wix will be relevant regularly.
Of course, but it'll be the, what's his ADP? Like, Wix will probably be left into the double-digit rounds of someone who's interesting to take a shot on. Yeah, he's the last round pick guy. Also, the Green Bay Packers implication. That one is almost more interesting because when they, so Dobbs left and it was like, oh, well, Wix might hang on and actually be, you know, somewhat relevant on the Packers. So they trade him away. So you have. But you have Watson, Reed, and Matthew Golden are your primary wideouts, and as Tucker Kraft comes back from the ACL injury. But it's like, if you're team Golden, just hope they keep shipping these wide receivers out. Yeah, I know. I think Christian Watson, I mean, before this move, Watson was climbing up my boards as a true like early, my guy candidate that is happening, you know, Wicks leaving, it makes it even.
More of a just, is he going to be healthy? And if he's healthy, he's probably going to be good. Devon, A. Chan, not close to agreeing on a contract extension so far. That makes sense. It's April. And he just stopped showing up. So don't work on that. Travis Hunter expected to be a full-time cornerback this upcoming season. Oh, man. Now, let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time, moments before this, moments before this news formally broke. There have been, there's been speculation that this might be the case. Still, there was talk about Brian Thomas Jr. getting traded. Like, that's still a rumor. So I thought to myself, like maybe, maybe I could get Travis Hunter super cheap. Oh, interesting. In a dynasty league. Okay. Because of the rumors and maybe, I'm like, this guy's too good of a wide receiver to keep him off the field. Anyways, I pulled that trade back. Yeah. As soon as this news broke and I'm very, very happy.
that I did because it would have been it would have been a problem it is a very interesting question in dynasties what what do you do if you have Travis Hunter you you invested a early pick you know he was he was a like the one oh five yeah first round pick last year and now you're worried that presuming you're not in an IDP league where you can use him as a cornerback you're worried that he might literally have no value for the rest of his career for fantasy my whole thought on it was that One, where he was drafted, and two, he was the, wasn't he the, wasn't he the Bolitnikov winner at wide receiver? Is that the, maybe that's the Titans Award. Isn't Boletnikov wide receiver? Yeah, the, the Blitnikov is wide receiver. But I don't remember if Hunter won it. He won the Heisman. Yeah. Thank you, Kyle. Also, he also won the Balitnikov Award. Spell. Balletnikov, Jason. Yeah, please spell Bolitnikov. B. Okay.
I litnacoff. Yes, that is correct. He was the nation's most outstanding receiver. To me, you look at that situation and you're like, how do you keep that guy off of the offensive side? One injury, one situation. I think his days contributing on offense are not over. I will say that. But I'm not trading what I was offering. Okay. So what would you trade him away for if you had him? A future second? No, I'd still need a first. Oh, I don't think you're getting the first. But then I'm not trading. I'm saying like, Dad, you have to come, I have to recoup something. I was off for Travis Hunter for a couple future seconds. And I turned that down and countered with like a 2028 third and a 2027 second. And then I pulled that away when this news broke. But I think this news is a bit could be premature. I mean, Travis Hunter is disputing it, isn't he? Yeah. He'd said something on Twitter, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Um, Bayshald Tootin, rumors. Let's just stay with Jacksonville. Roll an opportunity going to see a major hike. Amazing. Amazing breaking news here. Travis A. Chan Jr. Yes. Was traded. That's, or was signed by the saints. By the way, this is our first attempt at properly pronouncing his name. I'm going to go ahead and put myself out there on a limb and say, I'm going to get it wrong. Yeah, that's all right. But we're going to try. Yeah, so we'll give it a go. Formerly, the artist formerly noticed Travis E. Chan Jr. in New Orleans. Yeah, the opportunity is of course going to go up for Bayshaw soon. Can I report stuff like this? John Shipley did. But it's also he believes.
We're not 100% sure. This is on us for mentioning it. Bejohn Robinson's fifth year option has been picked up. He's going to be expensive soon. We're going to go ahead and kick it off here. We're going to get right into the running backs. Running bags. I can't believe we're here, guys. Our top 15 running backs, early rankings, we get to discuss a number of these players. We should also layer in like, Could they get messed up in the draft? Yeah, if there's any other names in there. Kyle put together some stats for us. What makes the top 15 running back? The average for a top 15 running back, 312 opportunities, 250 rushing attempts, about 1100 yards on the ground, 10 rushing touchdowns. On average, 60 targets, 47 receptions, 365 and 3 in the receiving game.
So over the last five years, 77% of top 15 running backs averaged at least 18 opportunities a game. So you need workload. Yep. 77% had at least 10 total touchdowns. So between the rushing work and the receiving work, at least 10 touchdowns. And then, you know, they were also on winning teams. This one matters, though. Top 15 running backs were on NFL teams that average 8.9 wins. Like when you're going through the list, there are definitely guys who will break through. Because they, you know, like, like Devon A-chan. Or now I'm messing his name. It's not Devon A-chan. It's not Devon E-T-N, that's for sure. I did. I froze there. Devon A-chan. You're any A-chan in the conversation. Oh, my gosh. We'll get it. But it's like the dolphins, they don't project to be a great team. No. Let me ask you this. Some guys can break through. Is A-chan? Is it like a Louisiana way of saying E-T-N? Like,
Kind of. We have Papa Josh here who grew up in Louisiana. He did confirm this. The way they pronounce things is very different. Thank you. Thank you. So anyways, you're going to mess up. Poor Devon A-chan is going to get messed up. He already did? I was like, oh, crap. If you didn't see Kyle Brandt talking about the name swap, well, not swap, the correction of A-chan. him bringing up Brett Farf was like the funniest part because it's like, yeah, hold on now. Yeah, those are in the wrong order. The letters, they're backwards. The problem isn't the name at all. The problem is I wish we would have known sooner. Yeah, when you go to the NFL combine, or at least like the NFL draft, when you're drafted, that should be part of the processes. Okay, now tell us. Second contract name changes are not.
I'm not cool. The only time that it's acceptable is if you're basically adding a senior. You had a son. Now you can amend your name. I think it's, you know, there's, there should be rules in life. But you're bringing up a good point. Like, how is the NFL, do they not do this? They must not. Like when they seems pretty easy to solve. Like everyone who comes to the combine, give me your name. See, I do state your name. Maybe you change your mind. On how you say it. well they called him ETN for so long that maybe he was just like whatever he's i can't keep correcting people but now we got paid yeah and it's time to that's right straighten people out but this is your last one none of this chosen anderson stuff we're not doing this 10 times we're not doing this 20 times for you um all right you guys ready to get started yep
Well, we'll include number one and number two in the same discussion pretty much because the debate is going to be these two guys. But number one on our list, Bijan Robinson. Number two, Jemir Gibbs. We did not all agree with the order here. You guys both had Beijon at number one. I have Jemir Gibbs at number one. That is just a product of the Montgomery. How dare you? I know. It's unacceptable. But yeah, I just like Detroit's offense more. That's it. That makes sense. I mean, you just talked about these top running backs usually come from good teams. Right now it's a seven and a half win total for the Falcons. They haven't had a winning season in quite some time. Since 2017. Wow. Gross. Sorry, Kyle. Not sorry. I'm a Cardinals fan. Yeah. Cardinals are like one in 10 years or so. Yeah, it's not sorry. That's congrats. Yeah, your team is pretty good. But yeah, I mean, the question between.
Bijan and Jemir Gibbs is splitting hairs. I think the more explosive games will come from Jemir Gibbs. You don't see as many breakaway touchdown runs from Bijan usually, although he did last year. Oh, yeah, he did. Have a couple. Yes, he did. You know, he's been last year and now this offseason training with CMC. It seemed like you got a little bit more explosive last year. Maybe that'll be. I just think Bijon is the better running back. just overall, you know, if I was building a NFL team, I would draft him over Gibbs. Yeah, he is a video game character. Number one in forced miss tackles on rush attempts, number one in yards after contact, number one among all running backs and percentage of teams first read targets. You know, I don't know or like their quarterback situation. So we'll see how their offense is able to move. They agree. They agree.
Jamir Gibbs also is getting, I know we like to joke about the blobfish, but the running scheme, I trust it in Detroit. So it's splitting hairs. I lean the Gibbs way. It's hard to repeat at number one. You do see changes, and I like them winning more games. I just think that there's no one to compete with Gibbs at all. Bejohn's amazing. Flip a coin. The really ironic and insulting thing here is we're talking about. Who between these two guys should be the running back one? And it's those two, and we're not even considering the guy who was the running back one, Christian McCaffrey, who very well might just continue scoring more fantasy points than every other player out there as he has done multiple times in his career. Is this just age? Gibbs was tied with McCaffrey in the first read targets, you know, getting the receiving work. So we like that as a special recipe.
But, yeah, I think it's age, injury, risk. I mean, it's not a small difference. Number three is Christian McCaffrey. We'll take a quick break and come back and talk about last year's absolutely dominant victory lap for Mike. All right, Jason, you brought it up. Christian McCaffrey, right now we all have him at three. So that's including Mike. Mike is one of us. Yep. And he has him at three. It was an incredible year. He had 413 touches, which is the most since DeMarco Murray in 2014. I remember that DeMarco Murray season. Oh, yes. And I remember it wasn't that good forever. CMC has been good forever. It's wild. I mean, it was everything that Mike could have dreamed and more, 21.5 fancy points per game and all the touches he could handle. He. In 17 weeks. Yep. That's the thing is he stayed healthy.
You know, there's numbers of running backs who get this many opportunities, then they get hurt the next year. You know, like this was part of the conversation for Sequin Barclay going into last season. But it's like, I don't know for sure if this is truly a correlation or causation event of, well, I had all these opportunities. It sort of makes sense, but it's just every running back gets hurt. When you play all 17 games, As much faith as I had in McAfra, I didn't expect 17 games. That's preposterous to expect it from anyone at the running back position. When you draft him, you should think, I hope I'm getting 15 games from this player. And I hope they're not out in championship week. He only played, he's played 17 weeks twice. And both times it was after a seven game season and a four game season. Yeah. So he definitely didn't, you know, you talk about workload.
This will be the interesting one. He's not the same player. This is not McCaffrey of two years ago watching him. You know that where he always had kind of a sneakier burst. And like it was, you're like, oh yeah, Chris McCaffrey really is faster than I remember. That's going down. But he's going to catch the ball so much. You have the George Kittle torn Achilles is a situation because it's a weird of, well, if he's out. I would expect McCaffrey to catch the ball more. But if George Kittle is out, it's not as good for Christian McCaffrey and the San Francisco 49ers. Their offense, they really need guys there. Bringing in Mike Evans, I think helps their passing game a lot because the recessions. It's like you lost George Kittle and now you're bringing in Mike Evans. I mean, there's.
So you really have like one alpha player besides Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, it's funny. When they got in the red zone, they passed the ball to McCaffrey. McCaffrey led the league in red zone receptions, tied with Alman Raw, which that's the first running back to ever do that. And so I do think in the red zone, Mike Evans is going to be a pretty important piece. Right. of that offense. And Kittle coming back eventually, so they'll have both in the red zone. Yeah. So, I mean, that's, you can't really say much negative on Christian McCaffrey other than just with that much work. And at his age, he carries a lot of risk. And we've seen it before. But if he's on the field, he's going to score more fantasy points than everyone else. Yeah, to Mike's point about not being the same guy during his prime seasons, his average long run was like 26.5. 20.5. Last year, there were.
It was like 13. Like he didn't, and that's just looking at all the long, every game, what was his long run in every game, averaging it out. He didn't have as many explosive plays. I think the second to last game of the season, he had a 44-yard run. He had a 41-yard run, but before that, his long on the year was 24. So, yeah, he really, he wasn't ripping off the normal chunks. 3.9. Yeah, so this was a product of volume, and so if the volume comes down, Whenever the volume eventually comes down for McCaffrey, you're going to see those numbers come down. He's not going to do it forever, but he can probably do it again on a team projected to win 10 and a half games. We just talked about that recipe for success. They're not going to go away from him unless injury comes his way. So, you know, Mike, considering what he represented value-wise last year, compared to what he's going to cost this year, how are you looking at the McCaffrey proposition compared to the other names?
So right now on Underdog, so in basketball, he's going as the running back four. I think we have my three, three or four is fine. I just, I feel my confidence level on Bejohn and Jemir Gibbs is just much higher than it is in McCaffrey because those guys are still younger and they can still rip off the 50-yard touchdowns every once in a while. So I'm not abandoning McCaffrey, but I just prefer the other two guys if I'm picking 101. Last year, the number two running back was, believe it or not, Jonathan Taylor, who comes in at number four for us in our early running back rankings. I have him at six. Jason and Mike have him at four. It's been an interesting career for him. I mean, sophomore season, he's the number one overall fantasy running back. He goes through a couple years where he's missed time, banged up, offensive and quarterback problems, has kind of a more of a
a weird year in 2024 finishes his RB 9 Anthony Richardson and company figuring out was that a Carson Wins here I don't remember when the Carson Wins here was but probably the year before but we we just didn't get to see that like top tier Jonathan Taylor again until last year they got the offense figured out with Daniel Jones and all of a sudden he was a dominator again it's his best season since 2021 and he was a steal in drafts he was the RB 9 off the board so I think you As someone who in our league of record, I had Jonathan Taylor, and my goodness, I was ready to sell early in the year. Yeah, you were ready to bail, play for the future. And I'm like, I can't. I've got Jonathan Taylor. He is single-handedly going to win people championships. The first 10 weeks of the season, when their offense was good, he was.
lapping the field. Christian McCaffrey was the running back two at 21.4 points. Jonathan Taylor was averaging 25.9. It was so crazy the breakaway runs and you would be carried by him. He was unstoppable. And so I think the big question mark for Jonathan Taylor is the health of Daniel Jones. We'll know as we get closer to the season what this offense looks like, but it really is about. That is the question to me, because I think he could absolutely be the number one running back better than Bijon if their offense is good, if their team is good, which that was the surprise last year. The Colts were not supposed to be a good team, and then it turned out they were the number one seed late into the season. Well, that's two questions then. Question one is, will Daniel Jones be healthy? And question two is, if Daniel Jones is healthy, are they a good team? I think so. I think that they will be. He is competent enough.
to allow, like Daniel Jones is competent enough to allow Jonathan Taylor to not just see stacked boxes. And if you don't stack the box against big old Johnny Taylor, he's going right through you. Yeah, once Daniel Jones went down, they were, I think, leading the league in points per game at almost 30. They went down to 20 points per game with Rivers and Leonard, Riley Leonard. We don't know if Daniel Jones is going to be 100% when the season starts. So it does add some risk to Jonathan Taylor. So, but, you know, in terms of the top tier names, it's hard not to include him. Number five, James Cook. I have him at four. So I do have him ahead of Jonathan Taylor. Jason and Mike, you both got him at five. James Cook has basically forced himself into this conversation with the consistent play and the way the team is running the football and making that a priority. He is, he's strange because he feels like the anomaly to me of anomaly. Oh, okay.