Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Starts of the Week, Week 4 Matchups, Debate

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Coming to you from the fantasy jocks.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Good morning, good afternoon. Whenever you're listening, however you're listening, wherever you're listening, whatever you're doing, welcome to the show. Happy 2 a.m. You covered it. I covered everybody. It's Thursday for us right now. Thursday, September 28th.

The Fantasy Footballers podcast, Andy, Mike and Jason, back again for what seems like the millionth time this week. This week? No, not really. But we are here every day. That's one of the things we love to do. Yesterday, I sent out a thank you to all the supporters that joined the foot. And I asked them, I said, hey, let us know anything we can do to make the community better, things that we can improve. And someone said, hey,

Why don't you do some sort of live stream or something on Sunday mornings? And I was able to write back and say, Mike, Mike does a live? I do that. Mike does a live stream on Sunday morning. It's a Sunday morning party. It's the, what, the last minute. Yeah, the last minute questions. Pretty close. And we also are now doing a Sunday morning update that we're posting over to join the foot. So like.

Man, it's crazy on Sunday morning. With the inactives, the players that might have limited snaps, right? You get those reports that are like, hey, you know, Jordan Nelson is going to be out there, but he's going to play four snaps. Or, you know, I don't think most of us all Delaney Walker. That was a surprise to me. I thought for sure he was going to end up playing. He didn't. You got to have that info. Get him out.

So very excited to get going today. We have a great show for you. My favorite episode of the week, you know this. Starts of the week. Starts of the week are on the show today. We've got the fantasy forecast breaking down the first six matchups for week number four in fantasy football. We have a great question in the Fandings debate of the week. I think Mike and I are debating today. I think we're going to go. We're going Royal Rumble today. Okay, okay. Just sharing our opinions. Every man for himself.

And obviously we have the news and notes. I have a funny story about one of the bits of news that broke yesterday. Funny, funny, ha ha for you. Funny, sad for me. Not the best thing. I didn't know what you were talking about. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, yes, I do. That was great. And this harkens back to an argument that we had a couple weeks ago. Sure. I bet you wish you were on our side now. Well.

I, maybe, maybe. So let's, uh, let's jump right in. It's time for the fandings.com debate of the week. All right. Last debate of the week for the month of September. It's the fandings.com debate of the week. If you want to go debate a variety of sports topics, including this one, we'll tweet this one out, show you where you can go and debate it with your friends on the fandings app. Is it wrong?

To make the league aware of things like injuries. And I'm going to throw in a caveat here. Also, players being named active. Yeah. So here's the scenario that you may face. And like all of our leagues, we have Facebook groups. We think it's a great way to communicate with your league mates on a regular basis. It's a great way to get notified when trades happen. Things are going on. So the question is, you know, sometimes some listeners are.

Foot clan members, and they're up to date with what's going on, and others are not so much. So is it wrong? And where is the line when it comes to letting other people in the league know what in the world is going on in fantasy football? Because, look, what happens is this. Maybe you've got an opponent, another great team, and they're playing a lowly team, and that lowly team has Rob Grankowski, for instance. And Rob Grankowski gets named active on a Thursday night.

Like, is it wrong to tell your league what's going on? Is it wrong to make a post that says, I don't know, Grankowski's active? Is it wrong to say, boy, this doesn't look good for you and talk about Julio Jones's knee injury when somebody's trying to get a trade done? Now, before you debate this, I'm going to assume that, Andy, your answer is it is not wrong. Am I correct in assuming that? No, you're not correct in assuming that. I believe that there is a line, and I believe it's a bit subjective. Okay.

Because the example you gave with the Gronk situation, right? I mean, is an example you did last week. Is that correct? Not exactly. Like he said, he's saying. He skirted the line. Like, and this is, I mean, I'm talking, you have the foot where you got the long toes. And these things are just tapping on the line because Andy did not say, hey, Gronkowski's active.

But instead, he put up a gigantic high-res image of Gronkowski and said, Gronk smash for no reason. Because Gronkowski is not on Andy's team. This was not a proclamation of joy saying, I'm playing Gronk tonight. This was... He's a very... This was the owner playing me, did not have him in his lineup. Yes. And I was just saying, man, Gronk's going to smash. He's really good. He's going to smash tonight.

Well, no, you didn't say tonight. You just said Grong Smash. Sure. I was even less directed. So you understand what's going on here. I mean, and make no mistake. This is the first time I've endeavored into that territory. I feel like Jason has been far more many times, far more many. Far more many. As Jason would. Been across that line where he wants to go on there and, you know, if I say something about my player.

I'll get like a news story about how his ankle's hurting or I'll say, hey, I want to trade Des Bryant and then someone will say, you mean this Des Bryant? And then they'll share a news story about his knee being broken or something like that. So is that just trolling? Is that friendly trolling? I feel like it is. I feel like I'm going to take the position that some generalized trolling is okay. But if you direct message another league mate and say,

this is what's going on. You need to play this guy. I feel like that is the collusion line that I would not ever cross nor want to cross. Not to mention. Imagine crossing that line. Let's say I emailed that other owner, a message him and said, you need to play Grancowski tonight. He's in. You've got to beat Jason. Grancowski scored zero points. So you would have been very wrong. I would have been very wrong. And that owner then, you know, oh, I put him in, but, you know. So what do you think? I've been talking this entire time.

I'm with you that the line is very wide and very, very blurry. Because, I mean, I don't know. I don't think it matters if it's a DM to directly to an owner. When you're broadcasting it to the entire league, everyone knows what you're doing. They're making an owner aware. Oh, man, it's so tough because we all want to win, right? We all want to win and we think that sometimes people miss information.

And if this person only had that information, maybe they're too busy with their life and they haven't gotten this. If only they had this information, clearly they would make the right decision. They're not going to play an injured Antonio Gates if they knew that he was out. Right. I think the difference there is. I think that there is a difference when it comes to being private to being public. When it's public, you are sharing public information.

Or you are sharing your opinion. It's for anyone and everyone, and it's fine. If you're sharing that Des Bryant was just injured, what's wrong with that? He's injured. You know what I mean? What would be wrong is if you're sharing that he's injured when he's not or just lying. But as soon as you make it private, as soon as you go and tell someone, hey, you need to start this guy, you are trying to run someone else's team or you are trying to give a, you know, even if you want somebody to do that, I feel like you make it public.

So awareness versus advice? Yeah, but I mean, is there a line, is that the line you're saying? But you're also crossing this line of competitive advantage where if people are plugged in. Sure. Let's say. One owner knows more because they do more research. They deserve the advantage. And on top of that, maybe they're plugged into the news. Like you have those things. The instance I'm thinking of was many years ago, the starter for Indianapolis went down. And all of a sudden, this was in the middle of the week.

and Vic Ballard is hanging on on waiver wires and is now the starting running back, where if you post, hey, everyone should probably try and get Vic Ballard, or you posted about the injury to the running back, then everyone's going to go put the pieces together that I need to go grab Vic Ballard as opposed to holding that information and, I mean, you keep it for yourself, obviously, for the advantage, but it's so, that's so tough.

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If we're, you know, if there is a there, we're there. If there's a destination, we're there. So let's jump into the news. News and notes from around the league. Well, it's time to tell my tale. In a league? With you two. In a league of record. I was on the fence about this trade yesterday and I was.

I was the owner of Carlos Hyde and it was a big trade and the pieces there were Des Bryant. And obviously I knew the risks of trading for Des Bryant after an injury and the fact that this MRI was supposed to happen. But it just happened to time up yesterday where the, I'm talking moments, moments after the trade was accepted by. Could not have been five minutes. It wasn't even. And then I got a message from Bleacher report saying confirming that he is a fracture.

A hairline fracture in his knee. That could potentially cost him multiple weeks. I have heard everything from he will play this week to he will be out longer than Romo will be out to somewhere in the middle. And then it was reported last night that he ditched the MRI. Yeah, that was weird. And was fined for it, which means that's why we didn't have the news early enough. So basically, I can blame Des Bryant directly for my lack of information. I traded for Des.