Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Starts of the Week, Week 4 Matchups, Debate

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They cannot run the ball. No. And I mean the team. I mean them individually. I don't know what the problem is, but it ain't good. It is not good. Much like the grammar of that sentence. Yeah. Frank Gore, though, has been very productive. He has. I don't feel very confident in Frank Gore this matchup. Yeah. I know that the Jags, their, their defense kind of ranks low at the moment. They're running defense, but I think it's, they're, they're.

decent. They're decent enough to slow down the old man. I really like Frank Gore this week, so we're going to disagree. For me, he's, I mean, when I say really like, he's my 12th ranked running back. You really like him.

Yeah, I think he's, you know, that high-end RB2, low-end RB1. I think he's going to get the work. I expect Indianapolis to be up in the game. Poor field conditions means that, you know, you might be able to run. We saw a couple years ago, ironically, Chris Ivory, who's in this game, went full ham up in London, and the running game was working when the passing wasn't. I think there was some weather problems. There's weather expectations of rain coming. So I think Frank Gore...

is a solid play. I mean, here's what we know about Frank Gore. By the end of the season, Frank Gore will be a very valuable fantasy running back because he always is, which means through the season, he has to have those games that put up points, just like he did last week, and I think he can be a viable starter this week. Let me tell you one thing I'm doing in my leagues. If you want to have an inside look into the way we approach players, I am approaching T.Y. Hilton as a top 10 wide receiver rest of season.

Rest of season. Okay. I went out and I was trying to make trades that involved Brandon Marshall and T.Y. Hilton because of, you know, it changes a little bit with Decker going out. But if I could have gotten Hilton and a pick swap in my favor to give up Marshall, I really believe in Hilton with Dante Moncrief gone in the volume, the passing volume from Andrew Luck, what we saw last week against Varet. It's just an absolute...

I think an underrated talent in T.Y. Hilton, I think we do it every year. He's not going to put up 15 touchdowns. And that's the argument I made to the owner of Hilton saying, hey, trade him to me. He's not going to put up 15 touchdowns. But I think Hilton's great. I would play Dorset. Obviously, Alan Robinson, I would roll him out there.

And then Alan Hearns has had a slow start to the season. Jason, you are on board the Hearns Express this week because you said it's Hearns versus Hearns. Yes, on last night's joined the foot live stream. I said this is the good herns you're going to get today. We have seen Alan Robinson has struggled against top cornerbacks and who's the Colts, Vante Davis, should be on.

Alan Robinson, Alan Robinson's history against him is terrible. There's going to be a lot of points put up. I think Alan Hearns is a fine play this week. He should be productive in that wide receiver two range. Yeah, and we disagreed pretty, you know, strong disagreement about the... About which side of it. About which side of it. I think Alan Robinson has a huge week this week. Oh, you do?

I do. I haven't ranked, I think, my third highest wide receiver this week. I don't buy into the, I don't just apply that narrative globally without looking at the details. And to me, I don't think Vante Davis is 100%. Sure. And I think players improve. I will say, last year, when Alan Robinson was matched up against Vante Davis, and Davis did shadow him for about three quarters of that game.

Alan Robinson was one for four. Now, that one was a touchdown, so he was okay. But that's a game. The Jags won 51 to 16. They put up 51 points, and Alan Robinson had one catch. I bet Alan Hurons had a real good game. Just saying, I'm playing Alan Robinson. He's still in my top 10, but we're just throwing out the expectations have to be a little bit lower this week. Says Mike and Jason. Yes. Alan or Doyle?

I'm going Doyle right now. Doyle rules. Oh, yes. Oh, that's great. Doyle rules. Doyle rules. Yeah, look, if Dwayne Allen doesn't get a touchdown, which he is a great.

a great tight in for probabilities of touchdowns. He always has been. But if he doesn't get it, he's going to really drastically hurt your team. You're talking about a guy that's probably going to end up with three catches for 24 yards, and that's going to do nothing for you. Doyle, we have seen also used in the red zone. He has touchdowns of his own. He's outscored Allen in every single game this year, and...

You know, he's getting 60 yards, you know, up near 70 yards in a game. So I would rather have Doyle at this point. All right. The Panthers and the Falcons game, one of the higher over-unders of the week, 50 and a half points is the expectations of the Falcons are three-point underdogs at home against the Panthers. I was slightly, slightly tempted to make this my almost upset of the week. And I was only tempted because it's not going to happen. The Panthers, I think, are going to destroy the Falcons. Yeah, I was surprised by the over-under.

Maybe the history says that they can score, that the Falcons can score on the Panthers. But I was surprised to see this as one of the highest expectations of scoring games this week. All right. Well, look, I think that you see the only piece of the puzzle that I'm curious to see how it impacts the offense again this week is the artist pain in place of Jonathan Stewart piece. Kelvin Benjamin last week was not involved in the game plan. Cam Newton was furious about it.

Cam Newton said if it was up to him, that would never happen again. And the offensive coordinator came out and said that's ridiculous as well. It's a big piece of why they've struggled, why they struggled last week is not getting Kelvin Benjamin involved in the game plan. I expect a huge bounceback week. I would go buy him. I would go buy him with a comparable talent. I think Benjamin's still a top 10 guy the rest of the season. Now, Devin Funches, if you own him, cut him. Funches has done nothing. Keep trade cut.

I mean, keep a cut functions. He's a cut and a kick to the curb. I mean, one catch in the first game, two catches in the second game, nothing last week. No, not enough involvement in a game where Kelvin caught zero passes, funches cut zero passes. I mean, that's what you had. So on the other side of the ball, Sunu should play. Not expecting big things. Julio's the only start that I would have there from the wide receiver side. I have Olson as my second highest rated tight in this week.

What do you guys think of Jacob Tammy? Tammy's a, he's a fine play. He's involved right in the middle of the pack of the barfie tight ends where he'll give you, he could give you a strong game, but he can also give you three for 20. The thing that's very interesting for me in this game is Matt Ryan completing over 70% of his passes right now, second in the league. Matt Ryan has been on fire. Can that fire continue against a very stout?

Panthers defense. He gets the benefit of being at home that always helps out. But we've seen Matt, we've seen this Matt Ryan before where he opens the season, has some great games, but then it falls apart. Can I answer the question for you since the listeners want to know? Yes. There is no chance Matt Ryan does.

continues his hot streak against Carolina Panthers. His first three games were the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, one of the worst passing defenses in the league, followed by Oakland, one of the worst passing defenses in the league, and followed that up by New Orleans, one of the worst past defenses in the league. And in collegiate sports. Yeah. So, I mean, the point here is, yeah, he has been great, but his matchups have been great. I think he's going to get a rude awakening with Carolina. I do not.

personally have any confidence to start Matt Ryan. I would say I have slight confidence just in the fact that the Falcons look like a completely different team. Everyone, the Julio owners are not liking what's going on. You had Julio last year, the majority of games, the vast majority of games, he was getting double digit targets. This year, I believe he has none. Oh, yeah, you are correct. He has no games of double digit targets through three weeks.

So the offense has changed, which I think that helps Matt Ryan as a quarterback. So I'm not burying him, but my expectations are lowered. So Devanta Freeman and Tevin Coleman, last week, your starts of the week, Mike. What in the world do you do against the Carolina Panthers with two running backs splitting carries? I'll start Freeman. I've kind of buried Coleman in the rankings. Coleman can absolutely just end up with those.

touchdowns, as we saw he got three gimmies last week. But if I have to play one this week, I'd prefer to go with Freeman. I guess Coleman is an okay flex start if that's the way that you have to go. But I'm not looking at starting him with running back to confidence. All right, Raiders, Ravens this week. And this guys is my Andy's almost upset of the week. That's right, the Raiders, the Ravens.

Raiders are three and a half point underdogs, and I think they take this one. They are the favorites. Ravens are three and a half point favorites. Correct. What did I say? Underdogs. I meant the Raiders. I thought I said the Raiders are three and a half point underdogs. Oh, then Raiders and Ravens. I miss her, I apologize to me. The Raiders, I think they take this one. I think they can get it from the Ravens. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do they take it or do they almost take it? They get real close. I mean, they might take it by a point or two.

I think when it's a small line like this, you're almost upset is pretty much an upset. Yeah. Yeah. So you have, we've talked about Latavius Murray in the limited workload that he's seen. He's been very successful with the touchdown in every game. But, you know, you've seen 9, 11, 14 carries. For me, you can't start anybody on the running back side for the Ravens because Forsett and West have been putrid. Yes, I agree.

So do you start Murray as a two as a one? What do you think about Murray moving forward? Well, I would prefer to start him as a two, but I understand that people kind of, you may have drafted Latavius as you're one, but the snap percentages are just going down where Latavius isn't even playing over 50% of the snaps. He's in a full committee with two other running backs, where it's not just the one-to-one, so now he has to worry about two guys, going to sharing some time.

which stinks. But I mean, overall, the Raiders, all of them are getting it done. They're averaging, the Raiders running backs together, averaging 5.9 yards per carry, which is, uh, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Uh, I don't know if they can get it done so much against the Ravens. Excuse me. Doing all right. I got, I got the Jason throat going on. You know, it's, it's, uh, it's ironic because you guys say you can't start any of the.

Ravens running backs. In my rankings, I actually have Latavius Murray and Justin Forset back to back. And in one of my leagues, it's a deeper, a slightly deeper league, but I am playing Justin Forset this week. I think this is a winnable matchup. You've got Kenneth Dixon kind of breathing down your shoulder, but he's not going to be there yet in a pinch.

In a pinch, which I am in. I think that you could have enough value here. I don't think anybody's describing Latavius Murray as an in a pinch play, though, for them to be rated so close. No, I think I were set. No, I know, but he said they're back to back in his rankings. Yes. Well, I've got both of them right now 23 and 24 in my ranking. So a very low end running back two. What do you do with Cooper or Crabtree? Crabtree is an auto start for me. So so far this season.