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The Frenzy Continues + Kenny G Breakdown, Spears & Boars - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/23

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And Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Andy Mike and Jason back with you. So much happening in the wide world of fantasy football. We welcome you in. The free agents have sure been taking their time this year. I think they took their time. But I feel like we're, now this show, we have so much to talk about. And, you know, this is our...

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third show on free agency, but who's left after this? There's still a few. T.Y. Hilton. Exactly. I think that counts. I mean, T.Y. Hilton, that's interesting. Wherever he lands. But the big ones have happened, right? James Connor's still out there, Mike, but come on. Leonard Four Nets out there. Come on, someone. My dynasty team needs you to sign. I think the kind of young, exciting potential landing spots have found

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You know, those players have found new homes. Yeah, I suppose after the Curtis Samuel one, it was kind of wrapped up. I think I'm a little overall, I hate to say this, but I think I'm a little let down by this free agency. So here, I echo you, I was just about to say that this free agent landing spot week.

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sucked. All right. Different, different adjectives? I think that for almost not everybody, there were a couple people that got a healthy upgrade. Their situation got better. But I would say most players out here, I think it was a negative move for 85% of all the free agents. That's how I view it this year. And it got started with, you know, you know, Jonu and Hunter Henry going to the same team that we were kind of like, meh.

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Yeah, they phased each other out. Yeah. How can we turn two into zero? And there were some other situations like that. Like some of the landing spots made, they were interesting at best for the player that signed. And then they also eliminated fantasy value from the other players there. Right. But we'll talk about that. And maybe we'll, maybe we'll disagree. A lot of players this offseason went back to their teams too. So lots to discuss. For those of you who want to get connected to the show,

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You can follow and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts. You can check out our community at jointhefoot.com, and you can pre-order the Ultimate Draft Kit at Ultimate DraftKit.com and check out the UDK Plus. Yes, the Dynasty Pass part of the Ultimate Draft Kit. It will be receiving its first update in about a week or so, unfortunately, because of the No Combine.

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You couldn't have the, we get everyone's athletic testing, you know, have real, have movers and shakers. That process is extended across March. We are recording this Monday afternoon, but I believe Alabama is tomorrow, so that's interesting. Then you have a couple days. Florida is in a few days with Kyle Pitts, which there's, the Twitter sphere is getting very hot and bothered by an alleged.

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Get some sweaty pits. An alleged was it 4-4-6? Yeah. I think that's what they're talking about for- Is it all alleged on pro days this year? Like when you're not at one single combine to compare against everybody else there, do you believe that these numbers, the 40 times, the bench press, the verticals, are they going to be devalued in the, at least the public's mind? The 40 time is the only one. Like the bench press is, how many times can you?

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push those weights. There's no way to like, there's no way to fabricate like, oh, he's got two more. You know, there's cameras on these. Maybe you don't drop all the way to the chest or you don't fully extend. But with the 40 time, and we've seen this before. Home bench press advantage. I've heard about that. Usually people have slower 40 times at the combine than they do at their pro day because the pro day stopwatches are a little bit friendlier. Yeah, but it's true.

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The NFL did say, though, things were supposed to be more stringent on pro days this year. Well, that's good. And we have had articles hit the website all the time and very quickly with fantasy reaction to all of these moves. So we're going to talk about them on the show today, but then if you want to dig deeper on some of the analysis behind any of these moves, there are a lot of fantasy reaction articles on the fantasy footballers.com. Here's a quick question for the day.

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rank the Steelers wide receivers. This is another thing that happened. Juju re-signed one-year deal back to Pittsburgh wasn't expected, but the one-year, the fact that so many wide receivers were looking at one-year deals opened that door and he took less money and I'll give him credit for that. A little bit. Could have been a lot. It could have been up to $4 million with that Baltimore deal. Oh, yeah. With the incentives and stuff. You're not hitting incentives with...

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With the Ravens? No, you're not. Teenie Pie. Yeah, that has to do with your actual production. But yeah, allegedly he- And the Chiefs came in hot at the end. He received an offer that was slightly higher from the Kansas City chiefs, which I don't know if you guys ever read them. What's going on with Kansas City? But this is, we've now seen multiple reports of these free agent-wide receivers and not like huge names. I guess Juju is a pretty big name, but people turning down the Kansas City Chief saying, I do not want to go play there.

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Why? Why are they, yeah, that's why are they turning it down? Is it because they've seen it where, yeah, it's incredible to play with Patrick Mahomes if your name is Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey, otherwise no one else really gets targets. Well, Sammy Watkins is still a free agent right now, right? Yeah. And it didn't work out for him to come in and play third fiddle or fourth fiddle, whatever the case may be.

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But let's rank the Steelers wide receivers for 2021. One year deal for Juju. He comes back. Deontay Johnson is there. Chase Claypool is there. James Washington is still there. I will go first. I will simply put Deontay at one. I will go Juju 2.

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Claypool 3. I think it will be close between Deonti and Juju, but the big difference maker there is simply big playability. Last year, I believe the longest play from scrimmage for Juju was in the 30-yard range. And Deontay offers you more separation, better average rate of target and reception. And they're both, you know, Deonti missed, I think, two full games this year, one benching and one missed game.

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and was just behind juju and total reception. So I look at that as a neck and neck situation. So I have Deontay 1, more upside and then juju 2. Claypool, unfortunately, it may be another, you got to wait another year. Yeah, and, you know, Mike and I were talking about this in the studio off air. Claypool got off to such a hot start, but he was actually not that good as the season went along. And, you know, we're diving into some deeper metrics and developing.

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more accurate catch percentages for wide receivers and such. And I was really unhappy to see that Claypool was not that great. So I've got him in third place as well. And Andy, I know you wanted to go first since I had my answer in the dock first. But I agree with you. It's Deontay Johnson and then Juju. I don't see why it would change, right? Last year on a points per game basis, it was Deontay Johnson, then Juju, then Claypool. You could make an argument that Claypool takes a step forward.

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in year two. You're obviously hoping for that. But Big Ben, like throwing the ball really close. Probably not going to get better arm strength going into the next season at this age. He could. He could now that he's another year removed from the surgery. And the reason why you can believe that they will start going down the field a little bit more is the new offensive coordinator, Matt the American Canada. So they saw what the offense was last year.

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They let old Randy's contract just expire, and they said, yep, don't come back. We don't need you here. They pulled in somebody new because their offense was atrocious last year. Now, can their offensive line hold up and give Big Ben enough time to throw it down in the field of Chase Claypool? I'm not sure. But I would have, Deontay is the easy number one for me, but then I would go Claypool, second year in the NFL, new offensive system over the slot-wide receiver.

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Okay. Yeah, it was interesting seeing Juju come back. One more go-around with Big Ben. That was a man who did, I think we had a tail-tucked situation here. This is how I would, look, if I'm not saying Juju did this, but if I had to come back to the team and take the deal, I would sure spin it into the most loyalty-centered thing possible. Now, who reached out to, did he reach out to Kansas City?

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Is it because that, that'd be like, you know, hey, give me an offer so that I can just go back to this, go back to the Steelers, be like, dude, I could have played with Pat. I wanted to, I wanted to be here. His metrics year to year have just gone down and down in terms of the kinds of metrics that get you signed to long, Kenny Gallaudet type of deals. So that being said, was this his best chance at a long-term deal? Probably. We saw it in free agency this year. Wide receivers other than one, really?

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I'll include Nelson Aguilar in year. Wide receivers really did not get paid the way that they wanted to get paid this season because of the lowering cap situation. So all these wide receivers are betting on themselves, these one year deals. For agent winners and losers. Number one winner, Nelson Agalore's agent. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. What a great job he did. I think the Patriots came out and they were asked about their big spinning and they just said they're just not in the business of losing. But discretion.

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Use your money with some... Sometimes you try and be first to market and get out in front of everybody and set the bar. Yeah. And sometimes you're first. You set the bar higher than anybody else is willing to go. And we've got Al Borland, Judge Diomadi in the house. Judge, when is our winners and losers episode? Like the official will go through everybody and declare winners and losers. Like one week from today. Okay. All right. Well, let's get into the free agent news.

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Free Agent Frenzy. So I'm watching that graphic go across the screen for those of you watching on YouTube. There were three players on the Free Agent Frenzy graphic. It was Kenny Galladay. Ken YG. G. Keny and Drake and Juju and all three signed between the last show and today. I don't know. Just an observation. That's all it was. Did you want us to update it again?

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No, no, no. I just thought it was interesting that all three, like Jason said, most of the big moves happened. I thought you were hoping for like James Connor, Todd Gurley, and someone else. No, and here's the funny thing. Let's start with this news because on the last episode, I threw out there, I said, well, Alan Robinson's not going to sign his franchise Tinder anytime soon, right? We're like, yeah, no, he's not. Well, he signed it like that day. Yeah, you want to know why? Because he thought.

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prior to the free agency opening that he could get $20 million a year on the open market. And then he saw what wide receivers were getting and said, I do not want them to rescind this deal. He said, no takesie backsies. 18 million sounds good for a one-year deal. Then I'll go be a free agent when the cap goes up. Yeah. It's actually, he's in the best position of anybody. Get paid $18 million this year. Cap goes up, TV deal's done, and go make money next year. He's a great player.

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We talked about juju re-signing. Let's go to the biggest story of the free agent time period. So smooth. Yeah. The Giants have signed. Sorry. Kenny Gallaudet. There it is. Four years, $72 million, $40 million guaranteed. Taking his smooth routes to New York City. Oh, very nice. He led the NFL in 20-plus yard targets.

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