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Early WR Rankings Part 2 + Deebo Drama, Party Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/21
Early WR Rankings Part 2 + Deebo Drama, Party Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/21
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This is Patrick Mahomes, quarterback to the Kansas City Chiefs, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers podcast Thursday, April 21st. Excited to be with you. Mike Wright is here. Hello. Oh, that was nice. That was very nice. Good evening.
It was a perfect volume. You are a late night news anchor with that voice. It is always funny how they have the news. Why did we decide that was the voice? I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, we established. Why do we wear ties, Mike? I mean, I've been asking that question for a long time. Those things are ridiculous. I do not understand. Hey, you know, it'll make you look real good. Tie this thing around your neck so you feel kind of like you're choking.
And that was the uniform so that you can be uniform. And have it pointing downwards. Look, there's a lot of questions that we don't have time to answer here today. But we will answer some. That's on my new podcast that's coming out. Life's big questions with Mike. Why tie? Why tie? Okay. Mike Wright is here. Jay Gris filling in for Jason. He is still recovering. And technological difficulties. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit of that.
You know, you're getting better from an illness, and you need a mute button. Yeah, you do. And then we do have Brooks back in the building. Hey-oh. And Al Borland is here. What's up? In the ball pit. How did it feel? It felt all right. All right. We've got a lot on today's show. Really excited to be with you, early wide receiver rankings part two. So we get into some very interesting names on our early consensus rankings.
episodes. And so I think there'll be some debates today. And maybe Mike, you can talk me into actually trusting some wide receiver twos on today's show. You got to do it eventually. Which is what I call all the starting wide receivers for like the Bears and stuff like that. That's actually nice of you to say that. Byron Pringle's like, oh, all right. But I'm a real boy.
We have a couple of big announcements. Are we getting into them? We're getting into them. Get the trumpet out. So the first big announcement is, and you might have seen it on our social media, we posted it yesterday, but we will be back with the party room. What am I talking about? Last year, we were on Spotify Green Room with live shows each and every week.
And we are back for three more years with Spotify Live. That is what it is now called. They've changed the name from Spotify Green Room to Spotify Live. We're going to kick it off going live on NFL Draft Day. And so you can join us at 7 p.m. Eastern on the 28th, one hour before the draft exclusively on Spotify Live for that live event.
And so you can follow us on Spotify if you want to listen in. That's the nice thing. Now you can just follow us in the Spotify app and you'll get noticed when the live event is there. Yeah, you can come listen to the pardon room. But if you want to party. Like participate. You want to participate in the party. Right. Then you have to grab the Spotify live app. That is correct. So we are also working with Spotify this year. And one of the questions that has come up,
and I understand why, is are you only going to be on Spotify now? Nope. And that's not the case. We're actually the first ad sales deal with Spotify that has ever been non-exclusive. So you appropriately have wondered that because a lot of the deals that they've done in the past, it has been pulling all of the resources just onto the Spotify app and that's exclusive to the platform.
Nothing is changing about this show. You can listen where you want to listen. You can watch it on YouTube. Nothing about the show format is changing. That was so important to us as we navigated where we were going to work and with what partners because this show is about the audience. I mean, this show is about you, the fantasy player. And we are very protective of it. And we want you to have that same great experience. So you're not going to notice anything. This will be the last time you hear anything about it.
And, but we're very excited, very excited to be working with them. And to be back on Spotify Live, those live rooms are just, it's so conducive for fantasy football to participate with the audience, to answer questions, to have all the kinds of fun that we have here with the three of us with you. And so please join us on that illustrious draft day. Oh, yes. And then. Oh.
I have one more announcement. Yes. I wasn't sure how you wanted to handle this. I don't even know how to handle it. Okay. Our fearless leader, Andrew Holloway, the first. Thank you. Thank you. That is my formal. That's the name I go by with a tie on. Our dude is about to become a published author. Andy is putting out a children's book. That's right.
It's called My Football Family. The entire footballer's family is extremely excited for him, been back in this whole way. And that bad dog, which is, we've all read it. The story is incredible. It's very touching. The arts is amazing. And it will be available for pre-order. This is where you take over because I don't know this stuff. It's right now.
Right now. You can go to my football family.com. I'm so excited about this project. It's awesome. We, you know, we're all family guys here. You know, we all have kids and every football fan, every mom and dad wants to include their kids in their passions. And loving football is our passion. So that is the inspiration for this book, was our own family and the way that we...
try to bring the kids into the equation, whether as fans of a team or playing fantasy, all of that stuff. And so I'm so excited for you guys to see this project. It is a passion project. I've been working with some great people at Roaring Book Press. And so you can check all that out, learn more about the book, and you can pre-order it. And the special thing right now, since this is the first announcement,
is that you can go to My FootballFamily.com to figure out, you can buy it everywhere. You can buy it on Amazon and Barnes & Noble, pre-order it there. But Barnes & Noble is doing a very special pre-order discount right now. So I believe it's like 25% off the pre-order price if you get it there. Like I said, all the details on the website. And I think you're going to really enjoy it. It was a joy to write. You absolutely will enjoy it. And if you know anything about books, pre-orders do matter. We're trying to get our man as a New York Times bestseller over here, people.
Myfootball family.com. There you go. Thank you, Mike. That was very kind of you. Join the foot.com's the community. Ultimate draft kit.com if you want to get in on that. But we got some big, big news to talk about. News and notes from around the league. Oh, man. It's that Debo drama. Brooks, we got Debo drama. Yes, we do. What? What is happening in the NFL? I don't.
No. But I love it. I love it. It's very exciting. Jeff Darlington spoke to Debo Samuel, reporting from ESPN. He has told the 49ers he would like to be traded. The 49ers from what is being reported have made many efforts to extend Debo Samuel. He has been unwilling to engage in those offers.
So maybe money's not the root of the issue. Correct. There could be issues with how he's being used. And I started to think about this right before the show. Like why, Debo, why would you, you're utilized by an offensive genius, Kyle Shanahan. But how do contracts work in the NFL? And I started thinking, well, you know, tight ends that are used like wide receivers get paid tight in money. Correct.
And so I'm wondering if this whole, you got to be our running back because all of our running backs are hurt. You expose Debo to more long-term physical harm. Yes, you do. And you reduce the numbers that he would get paid as a wide receiver. So I wonder how much. And then you do have a transition to quarterback. Now, I'm not going to go as far as to say Debo is running away from Trey Lance. Right. But he totally might be.
But this is a humongous story because he was one of the best fantasy players, which you can join Tyreek Hill and Devante Adams, who have changed teams. And here's Debo. And it seems like he's not going to be back with the 49ers. Yeah, you have a clear shift last year when it happened. From Weeks 1 through 8, he saw 80 targets. And in that time, he saw six carries.
Then the San Francisco 49ers, like, well, we need you. We need a man back there. And then from week nine on, 80 carries and 53 targets. Now, I know that players want to play and they want, you know, they want the ball on their hands. But if you are a wide receiver and you had 80 targets over the first eight weeks and then that...
number has to drop down to 53 because you're getting 80 carries and you are destroying your body to do so. I, perhaps he doesn't really want to do that because as you said, Andy, money is not the problem. And imagine being that, imagine being Debo Samuel right now. And I'm sure San Francisco, I would think that their contracts are fair. Like they're trying to give him a lot of money. And he's saying, no.
Like, someone is walking up to you with a piece of paper and says, if you sign this, you will inherit generational wealth for, like, that will be passed down for ages. You'll, it'd be really difficult to spend this amount of money. And he's saying, nah, man, I'm good. I'd like to go somewhere else. And what he's really saying is your money is no good to me, but their money will be. Right, of course. Because Tyreek had the same story, right? He knew he was getting the bag. Devante, they offered him a contract.
Devante Adams ends up getting it from the Raiders. And this is so, like the implications of this potential move are vast. Like, and by the time you're listening to this, maybe something else has happened in this story, but, you know, the 49ers are not going to be better without Debo Samuel. Brandon Ayuk's going to be thrust into a role that, you know, one season he seemed okay to handle it and the other season he didn't. You're going to have a new quarterback. You're going to have George Kiddle hype start to grow if Debo's out of there.
running back room. There's going to be, you know, and what do they do in the draft? They don't have a draft pick for a long time, but they might have some draft picks if Debo gets moved. And are they another destination for a wide receiver in that situation? They would have to. They would absolutely have to do that. I'm trying to pull up. What picks do they actually? I feel like they're in the 50s. Their first pick is in the 50s. 60s. So round one, they have no pick because they trade it up for their backup quarterback.
And then they're in they have a seconds and two thirds. So at 61, there's potential that an interesting wide receiver is there if they somehow don't get a first. But whoever trades for Debo will have to pay up because he's still very young. Two more things, Mike. One, I want to make a prediction on where you think he might end up. Obviously money is going to play a big part of that.
