If he's a dumpster fire, they'll rush Cutler back. And if he plays well, they'll tell Cutler to take it easy. It's a shame because I like Matt Moore and I want to see what the offense can do. But then this is a really poor matchup for him to come in, you know, in a short week and play against Baltimore. So I'm a great challenge. Routing for you. Mr. Moore. If Matt Moore is bad, I'm expecting them to rush. You know, they're grabbing Jay Cutler. But it's like grabbing a bucket of fire to dump on your dumpster fire.
Fantasy Football 2017 - Starts of the Week, Week 8 Matchups, Andy’s Happy/Sad Game
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147 passagesYou mean to try to put it out? You're like, I'm a douse. Oh, no, this is terrible. Except for you paid $11 million for that bucket of fire. I've never seen a bucket of fire. Yeah, that was tough to visualize. It's hard to pour as well. Have you ever? You could have gone with like a lava, like maybe a bucket of lava? What kind of bucket do you have that's holding lava? Okay. You and I have both failed on the metaphors. It's called a floor of lava. It's just.
Brooks, can you, uh, can you save us? What, what's in the bucket that you're trying to? Kerosene is probably, no, I mean, if you're, gasoline. There you go. Yes. Or, you know, grease. I just was, yeah. It was much funnier to imagine just a bucket of fire. For you, maybe. All right, tomorrow on the show, in and out.
We'll talk through all the injuries. And a reminder on Sunday mornings, Mike is on Periscope. We've also got the game day alerts one hour before kickoff. And you can always, always get your questions answered over at join the foot.com, our fantasy football community. Let's start the forecast. Fantasy forecast. Just a reminder one more time, the Cardinals, Packers, Jaguars, Rams, Giants, and Titans are all on by this week. And if you're planning ahead, we've got another big one next week, the Bears, Browns, Chargers, Vikings, Patriots, and Steelers.
And updates for this week. Also plan ahead. Yeah. Updates for the game tonight. Devante Parker is a game time decision. How do you guys feel? If Parker plays. I'm not playing Parker in any situation. Are you worried about it? If he plays. Matchup, quarterback and injury. That's a trifect of disappointment. Exactly. Over the Ravens, Macklin, Wallace, Perryman, they're all questionable. Benjamin Watson can miss with a knee injury. Terrence West is out for the Baltimore Ravens. This is like.
Man, there's troubles over there. It's just going to be the replacements. Yeah. Someone called Keanu. Keanu Reeves going to play. Okay. Yeah, good reminder. And if you do have a player playing tonight, one, I'm sorry. And two, get them out of your flex. Make sure they're in your main. I hope it's Jay Ajai. This actually happened to me last week in one of my other leagues. I played, I can't remember who it was. There was somebody on the Thursday night game. I accidentally threw them in my. Oh, no. Flex. And.
Foolish. Rookie mistake. And I just, there was a moment on Sunday where I thought about playing a different position than the running back. And I was like, man, I can't do that because I didn't listen to my own advice. Foolish. All right, Vikings, Browns. Let's talk about this London matchup. Maybe that London air will treat the Browns to a victory. Do you guys see the thing about the Vikings are doing all these analytical things to best prepare them?
for the game for london yeah for trying to change time zones things like i'm remembering right things like wearing special glasses for when they're looking at their phones i assume for blue lights are you being serious i'm being dead serious that they're doing they're taking extra steps of of trying to acclimate they know they're playing the browns it's yeah still but you remember when there was the teams just don't show up
Remember when Baltimore was there? That's so incredible to me, though. It's just amazing that that happens. Even when you have the East Coast to West Coast and how poorly teams can play, I just don't. I mean, maybe these are these are just such finely tuned machines that, you know, you disrupt the process just a little bit and it doesn't turn out. It's not the process, man. I mean, you're talking about a completely opposite time. Well, London specifically. Yeah. I just, I'm amazed sometimes where teams struggle with time zones at all. Yeah.
I can't even drive north for an hour. I mean, that's still the same time zone. I get screwed up. These are super. Yeah, but it doesn't make you not be able to function, does it? Well, I'm much worse at football. All right. The Vikings, the Browns. The Vikings are nine and a half point favorites. Only a 38 point over under. It's been announced that Deshaun Kaiser will get the honor this week. Case Keenom. We're doing this again. Yeah, I mean, let's talk starts here.
Stefan Diggs is traveling with the team. And they think he's going to play. So are you playing Stefan Diggs because the matchup is good on his first game back? Do you think they have basically eased him back? Yeah. You know, we've seen Stefan Diggs deal with injuries, not necessarily get back quick. But usually when he's back, he is good. So he was out a little longer than we hope. He's coming back to a good matchup. I think if he gets the start, I'm willing to plug him in my line. I am as well. If he plays a play. Vikings defense has allowed only 16 points a game.
Is this the one situation that we have had all year long, which I would play zero Browns? And I'm including Duke Johnson in that. I think I would play no Browns whatsoever. I completely agree with you. The Minnesota Vikings defense against the running back position, both on the ground and through the air, has been tremendous. So when you're already a bad team and you don't expect a lot of points to be scored.
And then you're going up against a defense that shuts down what you do. I would look elsewhere for sure. And no way am I playing Isaiah Corwell. Over under second quarter for Deshaun Kaiser getting benched. I'm going to take the over. I think it's in the third. It's probably going to happen. It will happen against the Vikings. Yeah. Because that's what you want to teach, how you teach confidence is a really short leash. Kaiser's career.
Which I have been looking forward to seeing him. Am I fantasy reaping coaches now? I was a fan of. You were just realizing this? Yeah. I mean, way to catch up. Gus Bus? Well, before that was Coughlin and he was out. Yeah. And then I liked Gus. And now I like Hugh Jackson, who people still talk about glowingly when you talk about Cincinnati. But as a head coach. Deshaun Kaiser, I thought coming into this year was the best.
quarterback prospect, raw, but could develop into a truly great NFL quarterback. And I think that if he gets the start and gets pulled again here, you're talking about like career ending garbage in his rookie year that's just going to destroy that young man's mental state to be able to play quarterback in the NFL. It's just not fair. I mostly agree with you, but I will say he's a pretty confident fella.
He's pretty bad quarterback. He's a little rough. Derek McKinnon, Latavius Murray, let's talk about the running backs for Minnesota because people see the Cleveland Browns. They hear us talk about them the way we just did. And it's a joke, but they've been pretty darn good against the running back. Yes. And you do not have a full workhorse scenario with Minnesota. You have a split job with Murray, who was great last week. McKinnon, great the two weeks before that. Are you starting them both?
in this game because you expect it to be, you know, look, the Vegas has it as nine point, nine and a half point favorites for the Vikings. So is there time for Murray to run the clock out or do you, are you with me on pumping the brakes on him? Jerich McKinnon is a must play because of his role in the offense. I do agree with you that if you're playing Latavius Murray, you're playing him, you're hoping for garbage time, or not garbage time, but run the clock out time. The Brown's defense, they have tackled opponents.
for a loss on over 20% of rushing attempts. So that's second best in the NFL. And Latavius Murray is a guy that he needs to build up ahead of steam and get going. So if the defense is able to penetrate and stop him before the run gets going, Murray's in for a really tough day.
Yeah, I agree. I would be comfortable pumping the brakes on him and saying he's a worse start than normal. He's still okay. I mean, people are starting guys like Alex Collins, and you've got Latavius Murray here three weeks in a row since that injury to Dalvin Cook where, you know, 12 carries, 15 carries, 18 carries. And he's getting touches. So it. I don't, for some playing. I don't love the matchup, but I do agree that when you're just looking at a volume play.
for an opportunity. He's going to have it there. Just don't still stay on the thought process that Latavius Murray or that Cleveland Browns are a bad rushing defense. They are a horrific passing defense and specifically against the tight end. I mean, we're talking. Yeah, Kyle Rudolph, start him up. Absolutely. I'd play Thielen as well. He's a start every week. Yeah, I completely agree. Case Keenum as well.
You're willing to stream him? I am totally willing to start Case Keenham. Diggs back? You get Diggs back. You got Thielen. And, you know, Kyle Rudolph has basically as good a matchup as you can have. We see teams that travel to London, completely not show up. And, you know, if the Browns don't show up, yeah, I'm fine starting case Keenum in this game as well. Real quick, but right before you get into that, Jay, real quick news update, I should have mentioned that Michael Thomas missed practice yesterday.
Peyton said that he doesn't believe it's a significant injury, but this is something to keep on your radar. He didn't really say anything else on the matter, and you need to pay attention to Michael Thomas' status for this week. And then Jay Gruden talked about playing the hot hand between docks and Pryor. Jay Gruden, man. That's a rough scenario. You don't know how do you get a hot hand at the receiver position? Right. It's not like, man, he's doing so good with his touches. Come on.
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